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Russian word for a male zebra
Words in “common gender”Усатый нянь or what to call a male nanny (babysitter)?Is there a rule for figuring out the gender of a word?Rules for attaching gender to foreign company namesWhat word was used in Russian for line before the borrowing of “линия”?How to conflate feminine and masculine last names for a couple?Differentiate Russian words for “nowadays”A Russian verb for finding support for one's idea or theory from a hardly-relevant sourceSuccinct and gender-neutral Russian word for “writer”The original word for a wild boar
Let's suppose I am writing a fictional but realistic story about a male zebra.
Here is the problem. On the one hand, the grammatical gender of the Russian word "зебра" is feminine, so it is ungrammatical to write "зебра поскакал" and "полосатый зебра," as the grammatical genders must agree. On the other hand, it is extremely awkward to use feminine grammatical forms like "поскакалa," "попилa," "полосатая," "быстрая," to write about a male zebra when its physiological sex forms an important part of the context. Look how awkward it is: "Зебра стала лидершей табуна и могла выбирать себе партнерш для спаривания." A noun of masculine grammatical gender is needed.
I am aware that there is possibly no obvious or widely accepted Russian word for a male zebra and that whilst it is common to make feminine nouns from masculine ones (лось → лосиха, кабан → кабаниха, крокодил → крокодилица, медведь → медведица, etc.), it apparently does not work in the opposite direction, for apparently there are no suffixes that convert a female animal to a male one.
A variant is "самец зебры," but it would be awkward to use that expression repetitively throughout the story.
Another idea is "зебрик," but this word has a diminutive connotation, which I want to avoid. I want to write about a big and powerful male zebra.
How would the native speakers resolve this issue?
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Let's suppose I am writing a fictional but realistic story about a male zebra.
Here is the problem. On the one hand, the grammatical gender of the Russian word "зебра" is feminine, so it is ungrammatical to write "зебра поскакал" and "полосатый зебра," as the grammatical genders must agree. On the other hand, it is extremely awkward to use feminine grammatical forms like "поскакалa," "попилa," "полосатая," "быстрая," to write about a male zebra when its physiological sex forms an important part of the context. Look how awkward it is: "Зебра стала лидершей табуна и могла выбирать себе партнерш для спаривания." A noun of masculine grammatical gender is needed.
I am aware that there is possibly no obvious or widely accepted Russian word for a male zebra and that whilst it is common to make feminine nouns from masculine ones (лось → лосиха, кабан → кабаниха, крокодил → крокодилица, медведь → медведица, etc.), it apparently does not work in the opposite direction, for apparently there are no suffixes that convert a female animal to a male one.
A variant is "самец зебры," but it would be awkward to use that expression repetitively throughout the story.
Another idea is "зебрик," but this word has a diminutive connotation, which I want to avoid. I want to write about a big and powerful male zebra.
How would the native speakers resolve this issue?
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I don't see why you can't use полосатый зебра in a pinch. Foreign loan word tend to keep their endings irrespective of gender. Горячий кофе. Кэтрин пошла в город. Зебра is also a loan word, we're just not used to using it in masculine form.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : And what if I am writing a story about a male seagull? :)
– Mitsuko
6 hours ago
No choice then, need to use самец. Same with crow, squirrel, frog, etc.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : What about зеброконь? :)
– Mitsuko
5 hours ago
a male seagull must be чаёк, if you don't want using самец what you need to do is find another masculine noun to accompany зебра, e.g. зебра-отец, зебра-вожак and the like
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
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Let's suppose I am writing a fictional but realistic story about a male zebra.
Here is the problem. On the one hand, the grammatical gender of the Russian word "зебра" is feminine, so it is ungrammatical to write "зебра поскакал" and "полосатый зебра," as the grammatical genders must agree. On the other hand, it is extremely awkward to use feminine grammatical forms like "поскакалa," "попилa," "полосатая," "быстрая," to write about a male zebra when its physiological sex forms an important part of the context. Look how awkward it is: "Зебра стала лидершей табуна и могла выбирать себе партнерш для спаривания." A noun of masculine grammatical gender is needed.
I am aware that there is possibly no obvious or widely accepted Russian word for a male zebra and that whilst it is common to make feminine nouns from masculine ones (лось → лосиха, кабан → кабаниха, крокодил → крокодилица, медведь → медведица, etc.), it apparently does not work in the opposite direction, for apparently there are no suffixes that convert a female animal to a male one.
A variant is "самец зебры," but it would be awkward to use that expression repetitively throughout the story.
Another idea is "зебрик," but this word has a diminutive connotation, which I want to avoid. I want to write about a big and powerful male zebra.
How would the native speakers resolve this issue?
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Let's suppose I am writing a fictional but realistic story about a male zebra.
Here is the problem. On the one hand, the grammatical gender of the Russian word "зебра" is feminine, so it is ungrammatical to write "зебра поскакал" and "полосатый зебра," as the grammatical genders must agree. On the other hand, it is extremely awkward to use feminine grammatical forms like "поскакалa," "попилa," "полосатая," "быстрая," to write about a male zebra when its physiological sex forms an important part of the context. Look how awkward it is: "Зебра стала лидершей табуна и могла выбирать себе партнерш для спаривания." A noun of masculine grammatical gender is needed.
I am aware that there is possibly no obvious or widely accepted Russian word for a male zebra and that whilst it is common to make feminine nouns from masculine ones (лось → лосиха, кабан → кабаниха, крокодил → крокодилица, медведь → медведица, etc.), it apparently does not work in the opposite direction, for apparently there are no suffixes that convert a female animal to a male one.
A variant is "самец зебры," but it would be awkward to use that expression repetitively throughout the story.
Another idea is "зебрик," but this word has a diminutive connotation, which I want to avoid. I want to write about a big and powerful male zebra.
How would the native speakers resolve this issue?
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I don't see why you can't use полосатый зебра in a pinch. Foreign loan word tend to keep their endings irrespective of gender. Горячий кофе. Кэтрин пошла в город. Зебра is also a loan word, we're just not used to using it in masculine form.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : And what if I am writing a story about a male seagull? :)
– Mitsuko
6 hours ago
No choice then, need to use самец. Same with crow, squirrel, frog, etc.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : What about зеброконь? :)
– Mitsuko
5 hours ago
a male seagull must be чаёк, if you don't want using самец what you need to do is find another masculine noun to accompany зебра, e.g. зебра-отец, зебра-вожак and the like
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
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I don't see why you can't use полосатый зебра in a pinch. Foreign loan word tend to keep their endings irrespective of gender. Горячий кофе. Кэтрин пошла в город. Зебра is also a loan word, we're just not used to using it in masculine form.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : And what if I am writing a story about a male seagull? :)
– Mitsuko
6 hours ago
No choice then, need to use самец. Same with crow, squirrel, frog, etc.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : What about зеброконь? :)
– Mitsuko
5 hours ago
a male seagull must be чаёк, if you don't want using самец what you need to do is find another masculine noun to accompany зебра, e.g. зебра-отец, зебра-вожак and the like
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
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1
I don't see why you can't use полосатый зебра in a pinch. Foreign loan word tend to keep their endings irrespective of gender. Горячий кофе. Кэтрин пошла в город. Зебра is also a loan word, we're just not used to using it in masculine form.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
I don't see why you can't use полосатый зебра in a pinch. Foreign loan word tend to keep their endings irrespective of gender. Горячий кофе. Кэтрин пошла в город. Зебра is also a loan word, we're just not used to using it in masculine form.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : And what if I am writing a story about a male seagull? :)
– Mitsuko
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : And what if I am writing a story about a male seagull? :)
– Mitsuko
6 hours ago
No choice then, need to use самец. Same with crow, squirrel, frog, etc.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
No choice then, need to use самец. Same with crow, squirrel, frog, etc.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : What about зеброконь? :)
– Mitsuko
5 hours ago
@Curiosity : What about зеброконь? :)
– Mitsuko
5 hours ago
a male seagull must be чаёк, if you don't want using самец what you need to do is find another masculine noun to accompany зебра, e.g. зебра-отец, зебра-вожак and the like
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
a male seagull must be чаёк, if you don't want using самец what you need to do is find another masculine noun to accompany зебра, e.g. зебра-отец, зебра-вожак and the like
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
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In practical terms you once use the locution самец зебры and then drop зебры continuing with самец only, because from that point on it's already clear a male of what animal is being discussed.
In Google the expression самец зебры is common.
But it would be interesting to see how zoologists deal with this deficiency in their literature.
Do you really suggest using самец repetitively throughout the story? :)
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
Самец побежал. Самец напился. Самец повел табун. Полосатый самец догнал зебру. Самец ускакал ото льва. Isn't such repetitive use awkward?
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko "от льва"... yes sorry, i overlooked the part that it was about a story, for a semi-scientific text my suggestion would do i guess, but in a story a character would probably need to have some kind of a name just like Matt has suggested, this will be a workaround... at any rate it's useful to first see the text so the advice is specific
– Баян Купи-ка
8 hours ago
I mean a fictional but realistic story describing life of a male zebra. I doubt a nickname would be suitable.
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
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Usually developed lexicon for some species comes to an existence due to importance of such species in an everyday life of some specific region. That's why we have "кобель", "сука", "щенок"; "котёнок", "кот" and "кошка", "бык", "корова" and "телёнок".
And that's why we don't have a separate word for, say, newly born llamas. The same about zebras - the only real answer is that both in masculine and in feminine in Russian the only word once can use is "зебра". If for some reason this distinction should be done, the answers already provided covered it - "самец" and "самка" are the words to go for.
The other option would be to become a billionaire - or just a very influential person, to coin new term and invest heavily into it's adoption - than it can be "зебрик". Now it's only "зебра" :)
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Зебра is a horse-like animal, so the term is жеребец, I believe. But this does not make life much easier in regards to repetitive use. @Mitsuko, multiple repetitions is a stylistic evil no matter if it's zebra or бык. The solution is to alternate.
– tum_
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko Жеребец. See above.
– tum_
4 hours ago
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That's the matter of personal choice. But as we speaking of animals, I'd like to mention that in the classical Russian translation of "The Jungle Book" Bagheera simply becomes "she" to match his name and species (пантера) better.
But normally, you don't say just "зебра" when speaking of some particular animal anyway. You could say "самец", or, in a fiction story, an animal character could (should) have a personal name, etc.
"Зебрик" is only good for a child zebra.
>>an animal character could (should) have a personal name<< I mean rather a realistic story, not a fairy tale. A fictional but realistic story about life of a male zebra.
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko Names or nicknames are not for fairy tales only. But if you don't feel like it, then самец is usually preferred. Also use он with different cases. This usually feels less repititive.
– Matt
8 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko i often watch Zoo Park channel, and even field researchers give animals personal names
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko That violates a literate norm, but, of course, people say it from time to time. Mostly like a joke.
– Matt
7 hours ago
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In practical terms you once use the locution самец зебры and then drop зебры continuing with самец only, because from that point on it's already clear a male of what animal is being discussed.
In Google the expression самец зебры is common.
But it would be interesting to see how zoologists deal with this deficiency in their literature.
Do you really suggest using самец repetitively throughout the story? :)
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
Самец побежал. Самец напился. Самец повел табун. Полосатый самец догнал зебру. Самец ускакал ото льва. Isn't such repetitive use awkward?
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko "от льва"... yes sorry, i overlooked the part that it was about a story, for a semi-scientific text my suggestion would do i guess, but in a story a character would probably need to have some kind of a name just like Matt has suggested, this will be a workaround... at any rate it's useful to first see the text so the advice is specific
– Баян Купи-ка
8 hours ago
I mean a fictional but realistic story describing life of a male zebra. I doubt a nickname would be suitable.
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
In practical terms you once use the locution самец зебры and then drop зебры continuing with самец only, because from that point on it's already clear a male of what animal is being discussed.
In Google the expression самец зебры is common.
But it would be interesting to see how zoologists deal with this deficiency in their literature.
Do you really suggest using самец repetitively throughout the story? :)
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
Самец побежал. Самец напился. Самец повел табун. Полосатый самец догнал зебру. Самец ускакал ото льва. Isn't such repetitive use awkward?
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko "от льва"... yes sorry, i overlooked the part that it was about a story, for a semi-scientific text my suggestion would do i guess, but in a story a character would probably need to have some kind of a name just like Matt has suggested, this will be a workaround... at any rate it's useful to first see the text so the advice is specific
– Баян Купи-ка
8 hours ago
I mean a fictional but realistic story describing life of a male zebra. I doubt a nickname would be suitable.
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
In practical terms you once use the locution самец зебры and then drop зебры continuing with самец only, because from that point on it's already clear a male of what animal is being discussed.
In Google the expression самец зебры is common.
But it would be interesting to see how zoologists deal with this deficiency in their literature.
In practical terms you once use the locution самец зебры and then drop зебры continuing with самец only, because from that point on it's already clear a male of what animal is being discussed.
In Google the expression самец зебры is common.
But it would be interesting to see how zoologists deal with this deficiency in their literature.
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Do you really suggest using самец repetitively throughout the story? :)
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
Самец побежал. Самец напился. Самец повел табун. Полосатый самец догнал зебру. Самец ускакал ото льва. Isn't such repetitive use awkward?
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko "от льва"... yes sorry, i overlooked the part that it was about a story, for a semi-scientific text my suggestion would do i guess, but in a story a character would probably need to have some kind of a name just like Matt has suggested, this will be a workaround... at any rate it's useful to first see the text so the advice is specific
– Баян Купи-ка
8 hours ago
I mean a fictional but realistic story describing life of a male zebra. I doubt a nickname would be suitable.
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
Do you really suggest using самец repetitively throughout the story? :)
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
Самец побежал. Самец напился. Самец повел табун. Полосатый самец догнал зебру. Самец ускакал ото льва. Isn't such repetitive use awkward?
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko "от льва"... yes sorry, i overlooked the part that it was about a story, for a semi-scientific text my suggestion would do i guess, but in a story a character would probably need to have some kind of a name just like Matt has suggested, this will be a workaround... at any rate it's useful to first see the text so the advice is specific
– Баян Купи-ка
8 hours ago
I mean a fictional but realistic story describing life of a male zebra. I doubt a nickname would be suitable.
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
Do you really suggest using самец repetitively throughout the story? :)
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
Do you really suggest using самец repetitively throughout the story? :)
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
Самец побежал. Самец напился. Самец повел табун. Полосатый самец догнал зебру. Самец ускакал ото льва. Isn't such repetitive use awkward?
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
Самец побежал. Самец напился. Самец повел табун. Полосатый самец догнал зебру. Самец ускакал ото льва. Isn't such repetitive use awkward?
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko "от льва"... yes sorry, i overlooked the part that it was about a story, for a semi-scientific text my suggestion would do i guess, but in a story a character would probably need to have some kind of a name just like Matt has suggested, this will be a workaround... at any rate it's useful to first see the text so the advice is specific
– Баян Купи-ка
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko "от льва"... yes sorry, i overlooked the part that it was about a story, for a semi-scientific text my suggestion would do i guess, but in a story a character would probably need to have some kind of a name just like Matt has suggested, this will be a workaround... at any rate it's useful to first see the text so the advice is specific
– Баян Купи-ка
8 hours ago
I mean a fictional but realistic story describing life of a male zebra. I doubt a nickname would be suitable.
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
I mean a fictional but realistic story describing life of a male zebra. I doubt a nickname would be suitable.
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
Usually developed lexicon for some species comes to an existence due to importance of such species in an everyday life of some specific region. That's why we have "кобель", "сука", "щенок"; "котёнок", "кот" and "кошка", "бык", "корова" and "телёнок".
And that's why we don't have a separate word for, say, newly born llamas. The same about zebras - the only real answer is that both in masculine and in feminine in Russian the only word once can use is "зебра". If for some reason this distinction should be done, the answers already provided covered it - "самец" and "самка" are the words to go for.
The other option would be to become a billionaire - or just a very influential person, to coin new term and invest heavily into it's adoption - than it can be "зебрик". Now it's only "зебра" :)
2
Зебра is a horse-like animal, so the term is жеребец, I believe. But this does not make life much easier in regards to repetitive use. @Mitsuko, multiple repetitions is a stylistic evil no matter if it's zebra or бык. The solution is to alternate.
– tum_
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko Жеребец. See above.
– tum_
4 hours ago
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Usually developed lexicon for some species comes to an existence due to importance of such species in an everyday life of some specific region. That's why we have "кобель", "сука", "щенок"; "котёнок", "кот" and "кошка", "бык", "корова" and "телёнок".
And that's why we don't have a separate word for, say, newly born llamas. The same about zebras - the only real answer is that both in masculine and in feminine in Russian the only word once can use is "зебра". If for some reason this distinction should be done, the answers already provided covered it - "самец" and "самка" are the words to go for.
The other option would be to become a billionaire - or just a very influential person, to coin new term and invest heavily into it's adoption - than it can be "зебрик". Now it's only "зебра" :)
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Зебра is a horse-like animal, so the term is жеребец, I believe. But this does not make life much easier in regards to repetitive use. @Mitsuko, multiple repetitions is a stylistic evil no matter if it's zebra or бык. The solution is to alternate.
– tum_
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko Жеребец. See above.
– tum_
4 hours ago
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Usually developed lexicon for some species comes to an existence due to importance of such species in an everyday life of some specific region. That's why we have "кобель", "сука", "щенок"; "котёнок", "кот" and "кошка", "бык", "корова" and "телёнок".
And that's why we don't have a separate word for, say, newly born llamas. The same about zebras - the only real answer is that both in masculine and in feminine in Russian the only word once can use is "зебра". If for some reason this distinction should be done, the answers already provided covered it - "самец" and "самка" are the words to go for.
The other option would be to become a billionaire - or just a very influential person, to coin new term and invest heavily into it's adoption - than it can be "зебрик". Now it's only "зебра" :)
Usually developed lexicon for some species comes to an existence due to importance of such species in an everyday life of some specific region. That's why we have "кобель", "сука", "щенок"; "котёнок", "кот" and "кошка", "бык", "корова" and "телёнок".
And that's why we don't have a separate word for, say, newly born llamas. The same about zebras - the only real answer is that both in masculine and in feminine in Russian the only word once can use is "зебра". If for some reason this distinction should be done, the answers already provided covered it - "самец" and "самка" are the words to go for.
The other option would be to become a billionaire - or just a very influential person, to coin new term and invest heavily into it's adoption - than it can be "зебрик". Now it's only "зебра" :)
answered 7 hours ago
shabunc♦shabunc
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Зебра is a horse-like animal, so the term is жеребец, I believe. But this does not make life much easier in regards to repetitive use. @Mitsuko, multiple repetitions is a stylistic evil no matter if it's zebra or бык. The solution is to alternate.
– tum_
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko Жеребец. See above.
– tum_
4 hours ago
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Зебра is a horse-like animal, so the term is жеребец, I believe. But this does not make life much easier in regards to repetitive use. @Mitsuko, multiple repetitions is a stylistic evil no matter if it's zebra or бык. The solution is to alternate.
– tum_
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko Жеребец. See above.
– tum_
4 hours ago
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Зебра is a horse-like animal, so the term is жеребец, I believe. But this does not make life much easier in regards to repetitive use. @Mitsuko, multiple repetitions is a stylistic evil no matter if it's zebra or бык. The solution is to alternate.
– tum_
7 hours ago
Зебра is a horse-like animal, so the term is жеребец, I believe. But this does not make life much easier in regards to repetitive use. @Mitsuko, multiple repetitions is a stylistic evil no matter if it's zebra or бык. The solution is to alternate.
– tum_
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko Жеребец. See above.
– tum_
4 hours ago
@Mitsuko Жеребец. See above.
– tum_
4 hours ago
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That's the matter of personal choice. But as we speaking of animals, I'd like to mention that in the classical Russian translation of "The Jungle Book" Bagheera simply becomes "she" to match his name and species (пантера) better.
But normally, you don't say just "зебра" when speaking of some particular animal anyway. You could say "самец", or, in a fiction story, an animal character could (should) have a personal name, etc.
"Зебрик" is only good for a child zebra.
>>an animal character could (should) have a personal name<< I mean rather a realistic story, not a fairy tale. A fictional but realistic story about life of a male zebra.
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko Names or nicknames are not for fairy tales only. But if you don't feel like it, then самец is usually preferred. Also use он with different cases. This usually feels less repititive.
– Matt
8 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko i often watch Zoo Park channel, and even field researchers give animals personal names
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko That violates a literate norm, but, of course, people say it from time to time. Mostly like a joke.
– Matt
7 hours ago
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That's the matter of personal choice. But as we speaking of animals, I'd like to mention that in the classical Russian translation of "The Jungle Book" Bagheera simply becomes "she" to match his name and species (пантера) better.
But normally, you don't say just "зебра" when speaking of some particular animal anyway. You could say "самец", or, in a fiction story, an animal character could (should) have a personal name, etc.
"Зебрик" is only good for a child zebra.
>>an animal character could (should) have a personal name<< I mean rather a realistic story, not a fairy tale. A fictional but realistic story about life of a male zebra.
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko Names or nicknames are not for fairy tales only. But if you don't feel like it, then самец is usually preferred. Also use он with different cases. This usually feels less repititive.
– Matt
8 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko i often watch Zoo Park channel, and even field researchers give animals personal names
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko That violates a literate norm, but, of course, people say it from time to time. Mostly like a joke.
– Matt
7 hours ago
add a comment |
That's the matter of personal choice. But as we speaking of animals, I'd like to mention that in the classical Russian translation of "The Jungle Book" Bagheera simply becomes "she" to match his name and species (пантера) better.
But normally, you don't say just "зебра" when speaking of some particular animal anyway. You could say "самец", or, in a fiction story, an animal character could (should) have a personal name, etc.
"Зебрик" is only good for a child zebra.
That's the matter of personal choice. But as we speaking of animals, I'd like to mention that in the classical Russian translation of "The Jungle Book" Bagheera simply becomes "she" to match his name and species (пантера) better.
But normally, you don't say just "зебра" when speaking of some particular animal anyway. You could say "самец", or, in a fiction story, an animal character could (should) have a personal name, etc.
"Зебрик" is only good for a child zebra.
answered 8 hours ago
MattMatt
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>>an animal character could (should) have a personal name<< I mean rather a realistic story, not a fairy tale. A fictional but realistic story about life of a male zebra.
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko Names or nicknames are not for fairy tales only. But if you don't feel like it, then самец is usually preferred. Also use он with different cases. This usually feels less repititive.
– Matt
8 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko i often watch Zoo Park channel, and even field researchers give animals personal names
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko That violates a literate norm, but, of course, people say it from time to time. Mostly like a joke.
– Matt
7 hours ago
add a comment |
>>an animal character could (should) have a personal name<< I mean rather a realistic story, not a fairy tale. A fictional but realistic story about life of a male zebra.
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko Names or nicknames are not for fairy tales only. But if you don't feel like it, then самец is usually preferred. Also use он with different cases. This usually feels less repititive.
– Matt
8 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko i often watch Zoo Park channel, and even field researchers give animals personal names
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko That violates a literate norm, but, of course, people say it from time to time. Mostly like a joke.
– Matt
7 hours ago
>>an animal character could (should) have a personal name<< I mean rather a realistic story, not a fairy tale. A fictional but realistic story about life of a male zebra.
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
>>an animal character could (should) have a personal name<< I mean rather a realistic story, not a fairy tale. A fictional but realistic story about life of a male zebra.
– Mitsuko
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko Names or nicknames are not for fairy tales only. But if you don't feel like it, then самец is usually preferred. Also use он with different cases. This usually feels less repititive.
– Matt
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko Names or nicknames are not for fairy tales only. But if you don't feel like it, then самец is usually preferred. Also use он with different cases. This usually feels less repititive.
– Matt
8 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
What if I formally violate the grammar rules and simply write "полосатый зебр"? Or would "полосатый зёбр" be better, with ё? Is the Russian culture really strict against inventing words like this?
– Mitsuko
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko i often watch Zoo Park channel, and even field researchers give animals personal names
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko i often watch Zoo Park channel, and even field researchers give animals personal names
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko That violates a literate norm, but, of course, people say it from time to time. Mostly like a joke.
– Matt
7 hours ago
@Mitsuko That violates a literate norm, but, of course, people say it from time to time. Mostly like a joke.
– Matt
7 hours ago
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I don't see why you can't use полосатый зебра in a pinch. Foreign loan word tend to keep their endings irrespective of gender. Горячий кофе. Кэтрин пошла в город. Зебра is also a loan word, we're just not used to using it in masculine form.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : And what if I am writing a story about a male seagull? :)
– Mitsuko
6 hours ago
No choice then, need to use самец. Same with crow, squirrel, frog, etc.
– Curiosity
6 hours ago
@Curiosity : What about зеброконь? :)
– Mitsuko
5 hours ago
a male seagull must be чаёк, if you don't want using самец what you need to do is find another masculine noun to accompany зебра, e.g. зебра-отец, зебра-вожак and the like
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago