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Jump-Start is a keyword ability that allows a card to be cast from the graveyard, and then exiled afterwards. (For example, Maximize Velocity.) According to the Comprehensive Rules, the exact wording of the cast-then-exile effect is "[i]f this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack."
If I cast a spell using Jump-Start while Feather, the Redeemed is in play, can I use Feather's ability to bring the card back into my hand (at the next end step) after casting it?
On the one hand, both Feather's effect and Jump-Start's effect are replacements that apply when the spell leaves the stack, which makes me think I can choose which applies.
On the other hand, Jump-Start's replacement exiles it instead of putting it anywhere else, not just the graveyard—so could it then replace Feather's replacement, exiling it anyway?
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Jump-Start is a keyword ability that allows a card to be cast from the graveyard, and then exiled afterwards. (For example, Maximize Velocity.) According to the Comprehensive Rules, the exact wording of the cast-then-exile effect is "[i]f this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack."
If I cast a spell using Jump-Start while Feather, the Redeemed is in play, can I use Feather's ability to bring the card back into my hand (at the next end step) after casting it?
On the one hand, both Feather's effect and Jump-Start's effect are replacements that apply when the spell leaves the stack, which makes me think I can choose which applies.
On the other hand, Jump-Start's replacement exiles it instead of putting it anywhere else, not just the graveyard—so could it then replace Feather's replacement, exiling it anyway?
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Jump-Start is a keyword ability that allows a card to be cast from the graveyard, and then exiled afterwards. (For example, Maximize Velocity.) According to the Comprehensive Rules, the exact wording of the cast-then-exile effect is "[i]f this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack."
If I cast a spell using Jump-Start while Feather, the Redeemed is in play, can I use Feather's ability to bring the card back into my hand (at the next end step) after casting it?
On the one hand, both Feather's effect and Jump-Start's effect are replacements that apply when the spell leaves the stack, which makes me think I can choose which applies.
On the other hand, Jump-Start's replacement exiles it instead of putting it anywhere else, not just the graveyard—so could it then replace Feather's replacement, exiling it anyway?
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Jump-Start is a keyword ability that allows a card to be cast from the graveyard, and then exiled afterwards. (For example, Maximize Velocity.) According to the Comprehensive Rules, the exact wording of the cast-then-exile effect is "[i]f this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack."
If I cast a spell using Jump-Start while Feather, the Redeemed is in play, can I use Feather's ability to bring the card back into my hand (at the next end step) after casting it?
On the one hand, both Feather's effect and Jump-Start's effect are replacements that apply when the spell leaves the stack, which makes me think I can choose which applies.
On the other hand, Jump-Start's replacement exiles it instead of putting it anywhere else, not just the graveyard—so could it then replace Feather's replacement, exiling it anyway?
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Yes, Feather's ability can return jump-started spells to your hand.
Feather's effect is a replacement effect. When an eligible spell would be put into your graveyard as part of its resolution, you may exile it instead and return it to your hand at the end of turn.
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
The exile part of jump-start spells is also a replacement effect that affects where the card goes after resolving:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
Your example of Chemister's Insight is a bad one, because it wouldn't be eligible for Feather anyway, since it doesn't target a creature. Maximize Velocity would be an appropriate example.
As you can see from cards with Jump-Start, they fit the definition of replacement effects, and the following rule applies:
616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected object’s controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below. If two or more players have to make these choices at the same time, choices are made in APNAP order (see rule 101.4).
Therefore, you can choose to exile a jump-started with Feather so it returns, or exile it through Jump-Start so it won't return.
Good point on Chemister's Insight; replaced that in the question.
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You can choose whether Feather, the Redeemed affects the spell or not.
From Gatherer rulings of Feather, the Redeemed:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
Note that the Flashback keyword has almost exactly the same wording as the Jump-start keyword:
If [the relevant ability was used], exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.
Hence, the ruling above applies to Jump-start in the same way as it applies to Flashback.
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Yes you can use Feather's ability on Jump-Start casted cards.
From Feather, the Redeemed's gather page:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
So now we need to determine if Jump-Start is a replacement effect. From the comp rules for Jump-Start:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
And from the comp rules of Replacement effects:
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
So I would say that Jump-Start is a replacement effect since Jump-Start places the card in exile instead of the graveyard. Since Jump-Start is a replacement effect and Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects, you can use Feather's ability on the card.
Also, Flashback has near identical wording to Jump-Start and Feather's ruling specifically mentions that it can be used on Flashbacked cards.
702.33a Flashback appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Flashback [cost]” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost” and “If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its flashback ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
Jump-start is a self replacement effect. According to 616.1a, if there are multiple replacement effects, as is the case here, the self replacement effect must be chosen.
– Aetherfox
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@Aetherfox How does Jump-Start differ from Flashback in that regard? Feather's Gather page specifically mentions it can grab Flashback cards.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
Huh, yeah, I must be wrong then. Clearly I don't understand SRE's as well as I thought. What is a good example of an SRE then?
– Aetherfox
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@Aetherfox SRE replace the base effect of a card with something else. Things like Metalcraft. Look at Galvanic blast. Its effect of deal 2 damage is self replaced with deal 4 damage if you have metalcraft.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
"Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects" More precisely, on cards that would have been exiled.
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Yes, Feather's ability can return jump-started spells to your hand.
Feather's effect is a replacement effect. When an eligible spell would be put into your graveyard as part of its resolution, you may exile it instead and return it to your hand at the end of turn.
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
The exile part of jump-start spells is also a replacement effect that affects where the card goes after resolving:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
Your example of Chemister's Insight is a bad one, because it wouldn't be eligible for Feather anyway, since it doesn't target a creature. Maximize Velocity would be an appropriate example.
As you can see from cards with Jump-Start, they fit the definition of replacement effects, and the following rule applies:
616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected object’s controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below. If two or more players have to make these choices at the same time, choices are made in APNAP order (see rule 101.4).
Therefore, you can choose to exile a jump-started with Feather so it returns, or exile it through Jump-Start so it won't return.
Good point on Chemister's Insight; replaced that in the question.
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Yes, Feather's ability can return jump-started spells to your hand.
Feather's effect is a replacement effect. When an eligible spell would be put into your graveyard as part of its resolution, you may exile it instead and return it to your hand at the end of turn.
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
The exile part of jump-start spells is also a replacement effect that affects where the card goes after resolving:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
Your example of Chemister's Insight is a bad one, because it wouldn't be eligible for Feather anyway, since it doesn't target a creature. Maximize Velocity would be an appropriate example.
As you can see from cards with Jump-Start, they fit the definition of replacement effects, and the following rule applies:
616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected object’s controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below. If two or more players have to make these choices at the same time, choices are made in APNAP order (see rule 101.4).
Therefore, you can choose to exile a jump-started with Feather so it returns, or exile it through Jump-Start so it won't return.
Good point on Chemister's Insight; replaced that in the question.
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Yes, Feather's ability can return jump-started spells to your hand.
Feather's effect is a replacement effect. When an eligible spell would be put into your graveyard as part of its resolution, you may exile it instead and return it to your hand at the end of turn.
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
The exile part of jump-start spells is also a replacement effect that affects where the card goes after resolving:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
Your example of Chemister's Insight is a bad one, because it wouldn't be eligible for Feather anyway, since it doesn't target a creature. Maximize Velocity would be an appropriate example.
As you can see from cards with Jump-Start, they fit the definition of replacement effects, and the following rule applies:
616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected object’s controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below. If two or more players have to make these choices at the same time, choices are made in APNAP order (see rule 101.4).
Therefore, you can choose to exile a jump-started with Feather so it returns, or exile it through Jump-Start so it won't return.
Yes, Feather's ability can return jump-started spells to your hand.
Feather's effect is a replacement effect. When an eligible spell would be put into your graveyard as part of its resolution, you may exile it instead and return it to your hand at the end of turn.
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
The exile part of jump-start spells is also a replacement effect that affects where the card goes after resolving:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
Your example of Chemister's Insight is a bad one, because it wouldn't be eligible for Feather anyway, since it doesn't target a creature. Maximize Velocity would be an appropriate example.
As you can see from cards with Jump-Start, they fit the definition of replacement effects, and the following rule applies:
616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected object’s controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below. If two or more players have to make these choices at the same time, choices are made in APNAP order (see rule 101.4).
Therefore, you can choose to exile a jump-started with Feather so it returns, or exile it through Jump-Start so it won't return.
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Good point on Chemister's Insight; replaced that in the question.
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Good point on Chemister's Insight; replaced that in the question.
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Good point on Chemister's Insight; replaced that in the question.
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Good point on Chemister's Insight; replaced that in the question.
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You can choose whether Feather, the Redeemed affects the spell or not.
From Gatherer rulings of Feather, the Redeemed:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
Note that the Flashback keyword has almost exactly the same wording as the Jump-start keyword:
If [the relevant ability was used], exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.
Hence, the ruling above applies to Jump-start in the same way as it applies to Flashback.
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You can choose whether Feather, the Redeemed affects the spell or not.
From Gatherer rulings of Feather, the Redeemed:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
Note that the Flashback keyword has almost exactly the same wording as the Jump-start keyword:
If [the relevant ability was used], exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.
Hence, the ruling above applies to Jump-start in the same way as it applies to Flashback.
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You can choose whether Feather, the Redeemed affects the spell or not.
From Gatherer rulings of Feather, the Redeemed:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
Note that the Flashback keyword has almost exactly the same wording as the Jump-start keyword:
If [the relevant ability was used], exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.
Hence, the ruling above applies to Jump-start in the same way as it applies to Flashback.
You can choose whether Feather, the Redeemed affects the spell or not.
From Gatherer rulings of Feather, the Redeemed:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
Note that the Flashback keyword has almost exactly the same wording as the Jump-start keyword:
If [the relevant ability was used], exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.
Hence, the ruling above applies to Jump-start in the same way as it applies to Flashback.
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Yes you can use Feather's ability on Jump-Start casted cards.
From Feather, the Redeemed's gather page:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
So now we need to determine if Jump-Start is a replacement effect. From the comp rules for Jump-Start:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
And from the comp rules of Replacement effects:
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
So I would say that Jump-Start is a replacement effect since Jump-Start places the card in exile instead of the graveyard. Since Jump-Start is a replacement effect and Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects, you can use Feather's ability on the card.
Also, Flashback has near identical wording to Jump-Start and Feather's ruling specifically mentions that it can be used on Flashbacked cards.
702.33a Flashback appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Flashback [cost]” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost” and “If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its flashback ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
Jump-start is a self replacement effect. According to 616.1a, if there are multiple replacement effects, as is the case here, the self replacement effect must be chosen.
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox How does Jump-Start differ from Flashback in that regard? Feather's Gather page specifically mentions it can grab Flashback cards.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
Huh, yeah, I must be wrong then. Clearly I don't understand SRE's as well as I thought. What is a good example of an SRE then?
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox SRE replace the base effect of a card with something else. Things like Metalcraft. Look at Galvanic blast. Its effect of deal 2 damage is self replaced with deal 4 damage if you have metalcraft.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
"Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects" More precisely, on cards that would have been exiled.
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Yes you can use Feather's ability on Jump-Start casted cards.
From Feather, the Redeemed's gather page:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
So now we need to determine if Jump-Start is a replacement effect. From the comp rules for Jump-Start:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
And from the comp rules of Replacement effects:
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
So I would say that Jump-Start is a replacement effect since Jump-Start places the card in exile instead of the graveyard. Since Jump-Start is a replacement effect and Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects, you can use Feather's ability on the card.
Also, Flashback has near identical wording to Jump-Start and Feather's ruling specifically mentions that it can be used on Flashbacked cards.
702.33a Flashback appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Flashback [cost]” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost” and “If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its flashback ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
Jump-start is a self replacement effect. According to 616.1a, if there are multiple replacement effects, as is the case here, the self replacement effect must be chosen.
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox How does Jump-Start differ from Flashback in that regard? Feather's Gather page specifically mentions it can grab Flashback cards.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
Huh, yeah, I must be wrong then. Clearly I don't understand SRE's as well as I thought. What is a good example of an SRE then?
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox SRE replace the base effect of a card with something else. Things like Metalcraft. Look at Galvanic blast. Its effect of deal 2 damage is self replaced with deal 4 damage if you have metalcraft.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
"Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects" More precisely, on cards that would have been exiled.
– Acccumulation
8 hours ago
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Yes you can use Feather's ability on Jump-Start casted cards.
From Feather, the Redeemed's gather page:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
So now we need to determine if Jump-Start is a replacement effect. From the comp rules for Jump-Start:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
And from the comp rules of Replacement effects:
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
So I would say that Jump-Start is a replacement effect since Jump-Start places the card in exile instead of the graveyard. Since Jump-Start is a replacement effect and Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects, you can use Feather's ability on the card.
Also, Flashback has near identical wording to Jump-Start and Feather's ruling specifically mentions that it can be used on Flashbacked cards.
702.33a Flashback appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Flashback [cost]” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost” and “If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its flashback ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
Yes you can use Feather's ability on Jump-Start casted cards.
From Feather, the Redeemed's gather page:
If another replacement effect instructs you to exile an instant or sorcery spell, such as that of Dreadhorde Arcanist or the flashback keyword, you may choose to apply Feather’s replacement effect first. If you do, Feather’s delayed triggered ability will return that card to your hand.
So now we need to determine if Jump-Start is a replacement effect. From the comp rules for Jump-Start:
702.132a Jump-start appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Jump-start” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a card as an additional cost to cast it” and “If this spell was cast using its jump-start ability, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its jump-start ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
And from the comp rules of Replacement effects:
614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.
So I would say that Jump-Start is a replacement effect since Jump-Start places the card in exile instead of the graveyard. Since Jump-Start is a replacement effect and Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects, you can use Feather's ability on the card.
Also, Flashback has near identical wording to Jump-Start and Feather's ruling specifically mentions that it can be used on Flashbacked cards.
702.33a Flashback appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities: one that functions while the card is in a player’s graveyard and another that functions while the card is on the stack. “Flashback [cost]” means “You may cast this card from your graveyard by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost” and “If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack.” Casting a spell using its flashback ability follows the rules for paying alternative costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.
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Jump-start is a self replacement effect. According to 616.1a, if there are multiple replacement effects, as is the case here, the self replacement effect must be chosen.
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox How does Jump-Start differ from Flashback in that regard? Feather's Gather page specifically mentions it can grab Flashback cards.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
Huh, yeah, I must be wrong then. Clearly I don't understand SRE's as well as I thought. What is a good example of an SRE then?
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox SRE replace the base effect of a card with something else. Things like Metalcraft. Look at Galvanic blast. Its effect of deal 2 damage is self replaced with deal 4 damage if you have metalcraft.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
"Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects" More precisely, on cards that would have been exiled.
– Acccumulation
8 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
Jump-start is a self replacement effect. According to 616.1a, if there are multiple replacement effects, as is the case here, the self replacement effect must be chosen.
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox How does Jump-Start differ from Flashback in that regard? Feather's Gather page specifically mentions it can grab Flashback cards.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
Huh, yeah, I must be wrong then. Clearly I don't understand SRE's as well as I thought. What is a good example of an SRE then?
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox SRE replace the base effect of a card with something else. Things like Metalcraft. Look at Galvanic blast. Its effect of deal 2 damage is self replaced with deal 4 damage if you have metalcraft.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
"Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects" More precisely, on cards that would have been exiled.
– Acccumulation
8 hours ago
Jump-start is a self replacement effect. According to 616.1a, if there are multiple replacement effects, as is the case here, the self replacement effect must be chosen.
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
Jump-start is a self replacement effect. According to 616.1a, if there are multiple replacement effects, as is the case here, the self replacement effect must be chosen.
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox How does Jump-Start differ from Flashback in that regard? Feather's Gather page specifically mentions it can grab Flashback cards.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox How does Jump-Start differ from Flashback in that regard? Feather's Gather page specifically mentions it can grab Flashback cards.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
Huh, yeah, I must be wrong then. Clearly I don't understand SRE's as well as I thought. What is a good example of an SRE then?
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
Huh, yeah, I must be wrong then. Clearly I don't understand SRE's as well as I thought. What is a good example of an SRE then?
– Aetherfox
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox SRE replace the base effect of a card with something else. Things like Metalcraft. Look at Galvanic blast. Its effect of deal 2 damage is self replaced with deal 4 damage if you have metalcraft.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
@Aetherfox SRE replace the base effect of a card with something else. Things like Metalcraft. Look at Galvanic blast. Its effect of deal 2 damage is self replaced with deal 4 damage if you have metalcraft.
– Ghostship
8 hours ago
"Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects" More precisely, on cards that would have been exiled.
– Acccumulation
8 hours ago
"Feather's ruling states you can use it on cards that are being exiled due to replacement effects" More precisely, on cards that would have been exiled.
– Acccumulation
8 hours ago
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