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Ruining the family name
“Teaching fish to swim”Usage of “keenly aware of”Similar to “burning a hole in my pocket” but for www shopping cart?What is the English idiom for eventually getting it right after many mindless attemptsexpression of the form “I wouldn't trust them with X”Does English have an equivalent to the Arabic “Far away from you”?What idiom was used before “to be on the same wavelength”?The meaning of the idiom “pin one's hat on something”In the US, is it a common thing to called a baby whose gender is not known “Baby [last name]”?What is an idiom for saying that someone/something is as bad as someone/something else?
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- Is the following correct usage?
"They didn't want me to ruin the family name. " - What are some other idiomatic expressions or phrases to say something similar?
I am aware of "give a bad name" and "one's name is mud". - What would be the correct usage of idiom " one's name is mud" in this context?
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- Is the following correct usage?
"They didn't want me to ruin the family name. " - What are some other idiomatic expressions or phrases to say something similar?
I am aware of "give a bad name" and "one's name is mud". - What would be the correct usage of idiom " one's name is mud" in this context?
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"Disgrace the family name seems to have more usage.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
@Cascabel that's an important and useful statistic! Thanks...! How can I get such statistics?
– user352038
6 hours ago
Just click on the link...it takes you to Ngrams by google. Paste in any phrase or word. This is used quite often on this site along with Google.books search.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
@Cascabel thanks!
– user352038
6 hours ago
Also: They didn't want me to be the bad apple.
– aparente001
5 hours ago
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- Is the following correct usage?
"They didn't want me to ruin the family name. " - What are some other idiomatic expressions or phrases to say something similar?
I am aware of "give a bad name" and "one's name is mud". - What would be the correct usage of idiom " one's name is mud" in this context?
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- Is the following correct usage?
"They didn't want me to ruin the family name. " - What are some other idiomatic expressions or phrases to say something similar?
I am aware of "give a bad name" and "one's name is mud". - What would be the correct usage of idiom " one's name is mud" in this context?
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"Disgrace the family name seems to have more usage.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
@Cascabel that's an important and useful statistic! Thanks...! How can I get such statistics?
– user352038
6 hours ago
Just click on the link...it takes you to Ngrams by google. Paste in any phrase or word. This is used quite often on this site along with Google.books search.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
@Cascabel thanks!
– user352038
6 hours ago
Also: They didn't want me to be the bad apple.
– aparente001
5 hours ago
add a comment |
1
"Disgrace the family name seems to have more usage.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
@Cascabel that's an important and useful statistic! Thanks...! How can I get such statistics?
– user352038
6 hours ago
Just click on the link...it takes you to Ngrams by google. Paste in any phrase or word. This is used quite often on this site along with Google.books search.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
@Cascabel thanks!
– user352038
6 hours ago
Also: They didn't want me to be the bad apple.
– aparente001
5 hours ago
1
1
"Disgrace the family name seems to have more usage.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
"Disgrace the family name seems to have more usage.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
@Cascabel that's an important and useful statistic! Thanks...! How can I get such statistics?
– user352038
6 hours ago
@Cascabel that's an important and useful statistic! Thanks...! How can I get such statistics?
– user352038
6 hours ago
Just click on the link...it takes you to Ngrams by google. Paste in any phrase or word. This is used quite often on this site along with Google.books search.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
Just click on the link...it takes you to Ngrams by google. Paste in any phrase or word. This is used quite often on this site along with Google.books search.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
1
@Cascabel thanks!
– user352038
6 hours ago
@Cascabel thanks!
– user352038
6 hours ago
Also: They didn't want me to be the bad apple.
– aparente001
5 hours ago
Also: They didn't want me to be the bad apple.
– aparente001
5 hours ago
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Your usage in line 1
They didn't want me to ruin the family name
is perfect. And as you say,
to give the family a bad name
would be fine too.
It's funny to see One's name is mud: a wonderfully concise example of bathos! An idiomatic use of the expression would be,
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family name would be mud.
Other expressions:
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family's reputation/standing would/might (thereby!) be ruined.
Or
They didn't want me dragging the family name through the dirt
Or
...miring the family name / besmirching it / bringing/heaping dishonour upon/on it.
Or, more plainly,
They didn't want me to give the family a bad name.
Is it correct to say "They were worried that I would ruin the family name"? Also, could you elaborate on how you think "one's name is mud" is an example of Bathos. Needless to say, I hadn't heard of the term "Bathos" until a few seconds ago..
– user352038
7 hours ago
"One's name" is rather grand: "mud" is very down-to-earth. The rapid 'fall' from posh English to very mundane English makes it bathetic. And quite funny. "One's name is mud" sounds like the Queen being amusing.
– Old Brixtonian
7 hours ago
Ah nice, very subtle. I'm afraid I don't pick up on these itsy bitsies. I'm new to these things. Thanks!
– user352038
7 hours ago
Your English seems excellent. By the way, I forgot to answer your other point. Yes, "They were worried that I would ruin the family name" is fine. "They feared I would ruin the family name" is also good.
– Old Brixtonian
6 hours ago
Oh i like the " feared" bit a bit better! P. S. I know English, I understand it well, but it doesn't flow through me like I want it to. Perhaps writing everyday will help unclog the synapses.
– user352038
6 hours ago
|
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As in:
"They didn't want me to besmirch the family name."
besmirch TFD
- To stain; sully:
add a comment |
I learned at some point in my wanderings in the world that the reference to somebody's name being 'mud' is a misspelling and actually came about in reference to Dr. Samuel A. Mudd, who attended John Wilkes Booth's broken leg after he shot and killed President Abraham Lincoln. Dr. Mudd became very unpopular at that point to those who were anti-slavery, Abraham Lincoln being intrinsic in the ending of it. For a short while I lived outside of Washington, DC, in southern Maryland, the historical area where many of the events took place. I suppose in retrospect, the doctor had an unfortunate name to have it passed on in posterity in such a way as has happened. I found it interesting when I learned about it.
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Your usage in line 1
They didn't want me to ruin the family name
is perfect. And as you say,
to give the family a bad name
would be fine too.
It's funny to see One's name is mud: a wonderfully concise example of bathos! An idiomatic use of the expression would be,
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family name would be mud.
Other expressions:
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family's reputation/standing would/might (thereby!) be ruined.
Or
They didn't want me dragging the family name through the dirt
Or
...miring the family name / besmirching it / bringing/heaping dishonour upon/on it.
Or, more plainly,
They didn't want me to give the family a bad name.
Is it correct to say "They were worried that I would ruin the family name"? Also, could you elaborate on how you think "one's name is mud" is an example of Bathos. Needless to say, I hadn't heard of the term "Bathos" until a few seconds ago..
– user352038
7 hours ago
"One's name" is rather grand: "mud" is very down-to-earth. The rapid 'fall' from posh English to very mundane English makes it bathetic. And quite funny. "One's name is mud" sounds like the Queen being amusing.
– Old Brixtonian
7 hours ago
Ah nice, very subtle. I'm afraid I don't pick up on these itsy bitsies. I'm new to these things. Thanks!
– user352038
7 hours ago
Your English seems excellent. By the way, I forgot to answer your other point. Yes, "They were worried that I would ruin the family name" is fine. "They feared I would ruin the family name" is also good.
– Old Brixtonian
6 hours ago
Oh i like the " feared" bit a bit better! P. S. I know English, I understand it well, but it doesn't flow through me like I want it to. Perhaps writing everyday will help unclog the synapses.
– user352038
6 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Your usage in line 1
They didn't want me to ruin the family name
is perfect. And as you say,
to give the family a bad name
would be fine too.
It's funny to see One's name is mud: a wonderfully concise example of bathos! An idiomatic use of the expression would be,
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family name would be mud.
Other expressions:
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family's reputation/standing would/might (thereby!) be ruined.
Or
They didn't want me dragging the family name through the dirt
Or
...miring the family name / besmirching it / bringing/heaping dishonour upon/on it.
Or, more plainly,
They didn't want me to give the family a bad name.
Is it correct to say "They were worried that I would ruin the family name"? Also, could you elaborate on how you think "one's name is mud" is an example of Bathos. Needless to say, I hadn't heard of the term "Bathos" until a few seconds ago..
– user352038
7 hours ago
"One's name" is rather grand: "mud" is very down-to-earth. The rapid 'fall' from posh English to very mundane English makes it bathetic. And quite funny. "One's name is mud" sounds like the Queen being amusing.
– Old Brixtonian
7 hours ago
Ah nice, very subtle. I'm afraid I don't pick up on these itsy bitsies. I'm new to these things. Thanks!
– user352038
7 hours ago
Your English seems excellent. By the way, I forgot to answer your other point. Yes, "They were worried that I would ruin the family name" is fine. "They feared I would ruin the family name" is also good.
– Old Brixtonian
6 hours ago
Oh i like the " feared" bit a bit better! P. S. I know English, I understand it well, but it doesn't flow through me like I want it to. Perhaps writing everyday will help unclog the synapses.
– user352038
6 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Your usage in line 1
They didn't want me to ruin the family name
is perfect. And as you say,
to give the family a bad name
would be fine too.
It's funny to see One's name is mud: a wonderfully concise example of bathos! An idiomatic use of the expression would be,
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family name would be mud.
Other expressions:
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family's reputation/standing would/might (thereby!) be ruined.
Or
They didn't want me dragging the family name through the dirt
Or
...miring the family name / besmirching it / bringing/heaping dishonour upon/on it.
Or, more plainly,
They didn't want me to give the family a bad name.
Your usage in line 1
They didn't want me to ruin the family name
is perfect. And as you say,
to give the family a bad name
would be fine too.
It's funny to see One's name is mud: a wonderfully concise example of bathos! An idiomatic use of the expression would be,
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family name would be mud.
Other expressions:
They were worried that (if I did such and such) the family's reputation/standing would/might (thereby!) be ruined.
Or
They didn't want me dragging the family name through the dirt
Or
...miring the family name / besmirching it / bringing/heaping dishonour upon/on it.
Or, more plainly,
They didn't want me to give the family a bad name.
edited 7 hours ago
answered 7 hours ago
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Is it correct to say "They were worried that I would ruin the family name"? Also, could you elaborate on how you think "one's name is mud" is an example of Bathos. Needless to say, I hadn't heard of the term "Bathos" until a few seconds ago..
– user352038
7 hours ago
"One's name" is rather grand: "mud" is very down-to-earth. The rapid 'fall' from posh English to very mundane English makes it bathetic. And quite funny. "One's name is mud" sounds like the Queen being amusing.
– Old Brixtonian
7 hours ago
Ah nice, very subtle. I'm afraid I don't pick up on these itsy bitsies. I'm new to these things. Thanks!
– user352038
7 hours ago
Your English seems excellent. By the way, I forgot to answer your other point. Yes, "They were worried that I would ruin the family name" is fine. "They feared I would ruin the family name" is also good.
– Old Brixtonian
6 hours ago
Oh i like the " feared" bit a bit better! P. S. I know English, I understand it well, but it doesn't flow through me like I want it to. Perhaps writing everyday will help unclog the synapses.
– user352038
6 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Is it correct to say "They were worried that I would ruin the family name"? Also, could you elaborate on how you think "one's name is mud" is an example of Bathos. Needless to say, I hadn't heard of the term "Bathos" until a few seconds ago..
– user352038
7 hours ago
"One's name" is rather grand: "mud" is very down-to-earth. The rapid 'fall' from posh English to very mundane English makes it bathetic. And quite funny. "One's name is mud" sounds like the Queen being amusing.
– Old Brixtonian
7 hours ago
Ah nice, very subtle. I'm afraid I don't pick up on these itsy bitsies. I'm new to these things. Thanks!
– user352038
7 hours ago
Your English seems excellent. By the way, I forgot to answer your other point. Yes, "They were worried that I would ruin the family name" is fine. "They feared I would ruin the family name" is also good.
– Old Brixtonian
6 hours ago
Oh i like the " feared" bit a bit better! P. S. I know English, I understand it well, but it doesn't flow through me like I want it to. Perhaps writing everyday will help unclog the synapses.
– user352038
6 hours ago
Is it correct to say "They were worried that I would ruin the family name"? Also, could you elaborate on how you think "one's name is mud" is an example of Bathos. Needless to say, I hadn't heard of the term "Bathos" until a few seconds ago..
– user352038
7 hours ago
Is it correct to say "They were worried that I would ruin the family name"? Also, could you elaborate on how you think "one's name is mud" is an example of Bathos. Needless to say, I hadn't heard of the term "Bathos" until a few seconds ago..
– user352038
7 hours ago
"One's name" is rather grand: "mud" is very down-to-earth. The rapid 'fall' from posh English to very mundane English makes it bathetic. And quite funny. "One's name is mud" sounds like the Queen being amusing.
– Old Brixtonian
7 hours ago
"One's name" is rather grand: "mud" is very down-to-earth. The rapid 'fall' from posh English to very mundane English makes it bathetic. And quite funny. "One's name is mud" sounds like the Queen being amusing.
– Old Brixtonian
7 hours ago
Ah nice, very subtle. I'm afraid I don't pick up on these itsy bitsies. I'm new to these things. Thanks!
– user352038
7 hours ago
Ah nice, very subtle. I'm afraid I don't pick up on these itsy bitsies. I'm new to these things. Thanks!
– user352038
7 hours ago
Your English seems excellent. By the way, I forgot to answer your other point. Yes, "They were worried that I would ruin the family name" is fine. "They feared I would ruin the family name" is also good.
– Old Brixtonian
6 hours ago
Your English seems excellent. By the way, I forgot to answer your other point. Yes, "They were worried that I would ruin the family name" is fine. "They feared I would ruin the family name" is also good.
– Old Brixtonian
6 hours ago
Oh i like the " feared" bit a bit better! P. S. I know English, I understand it well, but it doesn't flow through me like I want it to. Perhaps writing everyday will help unclog the synapses.
– user352038
6 hours ago
Oh i like the " feared" bit a bit better! P. S. I know English, I understand it well, but it doesn't flow through me like I want it to. Perhaps writing everyday will help unclog the synapses.
– user352038
6 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
As in:
"They didn't want me to besmirch the family name."
besmirch TFD
- To stain; sully:
add a comment |
As in:
"They didn't want me to besmirch the family name."
besmirch TFD
- To stain; sully:
add a comment |
As in:
"They didn't want me to besmirch the family name."
besmirch TFD
- To stain; sully:
As in:
"They didn't want me to besmirch the family name."
besmirch TFD
- To stain; sully:
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I learned at some point in my wanderings in the world that the reference to somebody's name being 'mud' is a misspelling and actually came about in reference to Dr. Samuel A. Mudd, who attended John Wilkes Booth's broken leg after he shot and killed President Abraham Lincoln. Dr. Mudd became very unpopular at that point to those who were anti-slavery, Abraham Lincoln being intrinsic in the ending of it. For a short while I lived outside of Washington, DC, in southern Maryland, the historical area where many of the events took place. I suppose in retrospect, the doctor had an unfortunate name to have it passed on in posterity in such a way as has happened. I found it interesting when I learned about it.
New contributor
Such "I learned somewhere" answers need references. Otherwise we will end up with a bunch of phony rumors posted here.
– GEdgar
1 hour ago
add a comment |
I learned at some point in my wanderings in the world that the reference to somebody's name being 'mud' is a misspelling and actually came about in reference to Dr. Samuel A. Mudd, who attended John Wilkes Booth's broken leg after he shot and killed President Abraham Lincoln. Dr. Mudd became very unpopular at that point to those who were anti-slavery, Abraham Lincoln being intrinsic in the ending of it. For a short while I lived outside of Washington, DC, in southern Maryland, the historical area where many of the events took place. I suppose in retrospect, the doctor had an unfortunate name to have it passed on in posterity in such a way as has happened. I found it interesting when I learned about it.
New contributor
Such "I learned somewhere" answers need references. Otherwise we will end up with a bunch of phony rumors posted here.
– GEdgar
1 hour ago
add a comment |
I learned at some point in my wanderings in the world that the reference to somebody's name being 'mud' is a misspelling and actually came about in reference to Dr. Samuel A. Mudd, who attended John Wilkes Booth's broken leg after he shot and killed President Abraham Lincoln. Dr. Mudd became very unpopular at that point to those who were anti-slavery, Abraham Lincoln being intrinsic in the ending of it. For a short while I lived outside of Washington, DC, in southern Maryland, the historical area where many of the events took place. I suppose in retrospect, the doctor had an unfortunate name to have it passed on in posterity in such a way as has happened. I found it interesting when I learned about it.
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I learned at some point in my wanderings in the world that the reference to somebody's name being 'mud' is a misspelling and actually came about in reference to Dr. Samuel A. Mudd, who attended John Wilkes Booth's broken leg after he shot and killed President Abraham Lincoln. Dr. Mudd became very unpopular at that point to those who were anti-slavery, Abraham Lincoln being intrinsic in the ending of it. For a short while I lived outside of Washington, DC, in southern Maryland, the historical area where many of the events took place. I suppose in retrospect, the doctor had an unfortunate name to have it passed on in posterity in such a way as has happened. I found it interesting when I learned about it.
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Such "I learned somewhere" answers need references. Otherwise we will end up with a bunch of phony rumors posted here.
– GEdgar
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Such "I learned somewhere" answers need references. Otherwise we will end up with a bunch of phony rumors posted here.
– GEdgar
1 hour ago
Such "I learned somewhere" answers need references. Otherwise we will end up with a bunch of phony rumors posted here.
– GEdgar
1 hour ago
Such "I learned somewhere" answers need references. Otherwise we will end up with a bunch of phony rumors posted here.
– GEdgar
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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"Disgrace the family name seems to have more usage.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
@Cascabel that's an important and useful statistic! Thanks...! How can I get such statistics?
– user352038
6 hours ago
Just click on the link...it takes you to Ngrams by google. Paste in any phrase or word. This is used quite often on this site along with Google.books search.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
@Cascabel thanks!
– user352038
6 hours ago
Also: They didn't want me to be the bad apple.
– aparente001
5 hours ago