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The man page for grep
reads
-i, --ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions in both the PATTERN and the input
files. (-i is specified by POSIX.)
However, if I change case on a filename, it won't work.
$ touch WHATEVER
$ grep -i pattern whatever
grep: whatever: No such file or directory
Am I missing something?
grep documentation
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The man page for grep
reads
-i, --ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions in both the PATTERN and the input
files. (-i is specified by POSIX.)
However, if I change case on a filename, it won't work.
$ touch WHATEVER
$ grep -i pattern whatever
grep: whatever: No such file or directory
Am I missing something?
grep documentation
New contributor
@steeldriver I actually tried in several systems (all Linux). I'm using grep (GNU grep) 2.16. How can I get the information about the man page?
– grep
2 hours ago
No, you're not missing anything. It's not supposed to work --grep
cannot ignore case differences in the filenames passed as arguments (what should it do? try all possible filenames combination when open(2)ing a file?Whatever
,wHaTevER
, etc? ;-)). I let the other find a rationalization for that confusing doc snippet.
– mosvy
2 hours ago
@drewbenn Did you really? Or are you trying to find arguments to support that it is correct? This is a genuine question, I'm not trying to start a fight. And I have an additional question. If it is as you say, what would it mean to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents of the file? What functionality would this be and how would it differ from how it works?
– grep
2 hours ago
FWIW, the standard says only this about-i
: "Perform pattern matching in searches without regard to case"
– mosvy
2 hours ago
2
@grep It DOES ignore case in the contents of the file as well as the pattern. It doesn't ignore case in the name of the file.
– Nasir Riley
2 hours ago
|
show 8 more comments
The man page for grep
reads
-i, --ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions in both the PATTERN and the input
files. (-i is specified by POSIX.)
However, if I change case on a filename, it won't work.
$ touch WHATEVER
$ grep -i pattern whatever
grep: whatever: No such file or directory
Am I missing something?
grep documentation
New contributor
The man page for grep
reads
-i, --ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions in both the PATTERN and the input
files. (-i is specified by POSIX.)
However, if I change case on a filename, it won't work.
$ touch WHATEVER
$ grep -i pattern whatever
grep: whatever: No such file or directory
Am I missing something?
grep documentation
grep documentation
New contributor
New contributor
New contributor
asked 2 hours ago
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162
162
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New contributor
@steeldriver I actually tried in several systems (all Linux). I'm using grep (GNU grep) 2.16. How can I get the information about the man page?
– grep
2 hours ago
No, you're not missing anything. It's not supposed to work --grep
cannot ignore case differences in the filenames passed as arguments (what should it do? try all possible filenames combination when open(2)ing a file?Whatever
,wHaTevER
, etc? ;-)). I let the other find a rationalization for that confusing doc snippet.
– mosvy
2 hours ago
@drewbenn Did you really? Or are you trying to find arguments to support that it is correct? This is a genuine question, I'm not trying to start a fight. And I have an additional question. If it is as you say, what would it mean to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents of the file? What functionality would this be and how would it differ from how it works?
– grep
2 hours ago
FWIW, the standard says only this about-i
: "Perform pattern matching in searches without regard to case"
– mosvy
2 hours ago
2
@grep It DOES ignore case in the contents of the file as well as the pattern. It doesn't ignore case in the name of the file.
– Nasir Riley
2 hours ago
|
show 8 more comments
@steeldriver I actually tried in several systems (all Linux). I'm using grep (GNU grep) 2.16. How can I get the information about the man page?
– grep
2 hours ago
No, you're not missing anything. It's not supposed to work --grep
cannot ignore case differences in the filenames passed as arguments (what should it do? try all possible filenames combination when open(2)ing a file?Whatever
,wHaTevER
, etc? ;-)). I let the other find a rationalization for that confusing doc snippet.
– mosvy
2 hours ago
@drewbenn Did you really? Or are you trying to find arguments to support that it is correct? This is a genuine question, I'm not trying to start a fight. And I have an additional question. If it is as you say, what would it mean to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents of the file? What functionality would this be and how would it differ from how it works?
– grep
2 hours ago
FWIW, the standard says only this about-i
: "Perform pattern matching in searches without regard to case"
– mosvy
2 hours ago
2
@grep It DOES ignore case in the contents of the file as well as the pattern. It doesn't ignore case in the name of the file.
– Nasir Riley
2 hours ago
@steeldriver I actually tried in several systems (all Linux). I'm using grep (GNU grep) 2.16. How can I get the information about the man page?
– grep
2 hours ago
@steeldriver I actually tried in several systems (all Linux). I'm using grep (GNU grep) 2.16. How can I get the information about the man page?
– grep
2 hours ago
No, you're not missing anything. It's not supposed to work --
grep
cannot ignore case differences in the filenames passed as arguments (what should it do? try all possible filenames combination when open(2)ing a file? Whatever
, wHaTevER
, etc? ;-)). I let the other find a rationalization for that confusing doc snippet.– mosvy
2 hours ago
No, you're not missing anything. It's not supposed to work --
grep
cannot ignore case differences in the filenames passed as arguments (what should it do? try all possible filenames combination when open(2)ing a file? Whatever
, wHaTevER
, etc? ;-)). I let the other find a rationalization for that confusing doc snippet.– mosvy
2 hours ago
@drewbenn Did you really? Or are you trying to find arguments to support that it is correct? This is a genuine question, I'm not trying to start a fight. And I have an additional question. If it is as you say, what would it mean to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents of the file? What functionality would this be and how would it differ from how it works?
– grep
2 hours ago
@drewbenn Did you really? Or are you trying to find arguments to support that it is correct? This is a genuine question, I'm not trying to start a fight. And I have an additional question. If it is as you say, what would it mean to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents of the file? What functionality would this be and how would it differ from how it works?
– grep
2 hours ago
FWIW, the standard says only this about
-i
: "Perform pattern matching in searches without regard to case"– mosvy
2 hours ago
FWIW, the standard says only this about
-i
: "Perform pattern matching in searches without regard to case"– mosvy
2 hours ago
2
2
@grep It DOES ignore case in the contents of the file as well as the pattern. It doesn't ignore case in the name of the file.
– Nasir Riley
2 hours ago
@grep It DOES ignore case in the contents of the file as well as the pattern. It doesn't ignore case in the name of the file.
– Nasir Riley
2 hours ago
|
show 8 more comments
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That confusing snippet was changed in newer versions of GNU grep to:
-i
,-ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case match each other.
See this commit: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grep.git/commit/?id=e1ca01be48cb64e5eaa6b5b29910e7eea1719f91
.BR -i ", " -^-ignore-case
-Ignore case distinctions in both the
-.I PATTERN
-and the input files.
+Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case
+match each other.
Do you mind opening that link in private mode finding that part of the doc? I just went through all ten occurrences of "ignore" and couldn't find that bit.
– grep
1 hour ago
sorry for the mixup
– mosvy
1 hour ago
add a comment |
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern",
this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it),
that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents.
I'd like to understand how this would work
(ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
Well, for example, it could be written
so that a pattern of “hello” would match “Hello” in the file,
but not vice versa.
While this sounds hypothetical, it is the way spell-check works.
If your dictionary contains “stack” and “exchange”,
and your document contains “Stack Exchange”,
spell-check will succeed without error.
But if your dictionary contains “Unix” and your document contains “unix”,
that will be flagged as an error.
add a comment |
Apparently I have a different manpage.
-i, --ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in
case match each other.
In any case, it's not about the filenames.
It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern.
Test file:
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
Grep results (ignore case of file contents):
$ grep hello test.txt
$ grep Hello test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i HELLO test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i hello test.txt
Hello World
Grep results (ignore case of pattern):
$ grep [a-Z] test.txt
grep: Invalid range end
$ grep -i [a-Z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i [A-z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep [A-z] test.txt
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
As you can see the results can sometimes be a little unexpected.
Not sure if there is an example where this actually matters more.
1
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern", this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it), that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents. I'd like to understand how this would work (ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
– grep
2 hours ago
1
Inless
, for example, there's a-i
mode in which matching is case-insensitive if you only use lowercase letters in the pattern, but if there are any uppercase letters in the pattern, the whole thing is case-sensitive. That's like (sometimes) ignoring case in the contents but not the pattern.
– Wumpus Q. Wumbley
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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That confusing snippet was changed in newer versions of GNU grep to:
-i
,-ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case match each other.
See this commit: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grep.git/commit/?id=e1ca01be48cb64e5eaa6b5b29910e7eea1719f91
.BR -i ", " -^-ignore-case
-Ignore case distinctions in both the
-.I PATTERN
-and the input files.
+Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case
+match each other.
Do you mind opening that link in private mode finding that part of the doc? I just went through all ten occurrences of "ignore" and couldn't find that bit.
– grep
1 hour ago
sorry for the mixup
– mosvy
1 hour ago
add a comment |
That confusing snippet was changed in newer versions of GNU grep to:
-i
,-ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case match each other.
See this commit: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grep.git/commit/?id=e1ca01be48cb64e5eaa6b5b29910e7eea1719f91
.BR -i ", " -^-ignore-case
-Ignore case distinctions in both the
-.I PATTERN
-and the input files.
+Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case
+match each other.
Do you mind opening that link in private mode finding that part of the doc? I just went through all ten occurrences of "ignore" and couldn't find that bit.
– grep
1 hour ago
sorry for the mixup
– mosvy
1 hour ago
add a comment |
That confusing snippet was changed in newer versions of GNU grep to:
-i
,-ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case match each other.
See this commit: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grep.git/commit/?id=e1ca01be48cb64e5eaa6b5b29910e7eea1719f91
.BR -i ", " -^-ignore-case
-Ignore case distinctions in both the
-.I PATTERN
-and the input files.
+Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case
+match each other.
That confusing snippet was changed in newer versions of GNU grep to:
-i
,-ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case match each other.
See this commit: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grep.git/commit/?id=e1ca01be48cb64e5eaa6b5b29910e7eea1719f91
.BR -i ", " -^-ignore-case
-Ignore case distinctions in both the
-.I PATTERN
-and the input files.
+Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in case
+match each other.
edited 1 hour ago
answered 1 hour ago
mosvymosvy
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Do you mind opening that link in private mode finding that part of the doc? I just went through all ten occurrences of "ignore" and couldn't find that bit.
– grep
1 hour ago
sorry for the mixup
– mosvy
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Do you mind opening that link in private mode finding that part of the doc? I just went through all ten occurrences of "ignore" and couldn't find that bit.
– grep
1 hour ago
sorry for the mixup
– mosvy
1 hour ago
Do you mind opening that link in private mode finding that part of the doc? I just went through all ten occurrences of "ignore" and couldn't find that bit.
– grep
1 hour ago
Do you mind opening that link in private mode finding that part of the doc? I just went through all ten occurrences of "ignore" and couldn't find that bit.
– grep
1 hour ago
sorry for the mixup
– mosvy
1 hour ago
sorry for the mixup
– mosvy
1 hour ago
add a comment |
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern",
this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it),
that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents.
I'd like to understand how this would work
(ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
Well, for example, it could be written
so that a pattern of “hello” would match “Hello” in the file,
but not vice versa.
While this sounds hypothetical, it is the way spell-check works.
If your dictionary contains “stack” and “exchange”,
and your document contains “Stack Exchange”,
spell-check will succeed without error.
But if your dictionary contains “Unix” and your document contains “unix”,
that will be flagged as an error.
add a comment |
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern",
this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it),
that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents.
I'd like to understand how this would work
(ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
Well, for example, it could be written
so that a pattern of “hello” would match “Hello” in the file,
but not vice versa.
While this sounds hypothetical, it is the way spell-check works.
If your dictionary contains “stack” and “exchange”,
and your document contains “Stack Exchange”,
spell-check will succeed without error.
But if your dictionary contains “Unix” and your document contains “unix”,
that will be flagged as an error.
add a comment |
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern",
this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it),
that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents.
I'd like to understand how this would work
(ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
Well, for example, it could be written
so that a pattern of “hello” would match “Hello” in the file,
but not vice versa.
While this sounds hypothetical, it is the way spell-check works.
If your dictionary contains “stack” and “exchange”,
and your document contains “Stack Exchange”,
spell-check will succeed without error.
But if your dictionary contains “Unix” and your document contains “unix”,
that will be flagged as an error.
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern",
this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it),
that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents.
I'd like to understand how this would work
(ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
Well, for example, it could be written
so that a pattern of “hello” would match “Hello” in the file,
but not vice versa.
While this sounds hypothetical, it is the way spell-check works.
If your dictionary contains “stack” and “exchange”,
and your document contains “Stack Exchange”,
spell-check will succeed without error.
But if your dictionary contains “Unix” and your document contains “unix”,
that will be flagged as an error.
answered 1 hour ago
G-ManG-Man
13.7k93870
13.7k93870
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add a comment |
Apparently I have a different manpage.
-i, --ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in
case match each other.
In any case, it's not about the filenames.
It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern.
Test file:
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
Grep results (ignore case of file contents):
$ grep hello test.txt
$ grep Hello test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i HELLO test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i hello test.txt
Hello World
Grep results (ignore case of pattern):
$ grep [a-Z] test.txt
grep: Invalid range end
$ grep -i [a-Z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i [A-z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep [A-z] test.txt
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
As you can see the results can sometimes be a little unexpected.
Not sure if there is an example where this actually matters more.
1
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern", this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it), that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents. I'd like to understand how this would work (ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
– grep
2 hours ago
1
Inless
, for example, there's a-i
mode in which matching is case-insensitive if you only use lowercase letters in the pattern, but if there are any uppercase letters in the pattern, the whole thing is case-sensitive. That's like (sometimes) ignoring case in the contents but not the pattern.
– Wumpus Q. Wumbley
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Apparently I have a different manpage.
-i, --ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in
case match each other.
In any case, it's not about the filenames.
It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern.
Test file:
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
Grep results (ignore case of file contents):
$ grep hello test.txt
$ grep Hello test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i HELLO test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i hello test.txt
Hello World
Grep results (ignore case of pattern):
$ grep [a-Z] test.txt
grep: Invalid range end
$ grep -i [a-Z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i [A-z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep [A-z] test.txt
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
As you can see the results can sometimes be a little unexpected.
Not sure if there is an example where this actually matters more.
1
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern", this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it), that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents. I'd like to understand how this would work (ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
– grep
2 hours ago
1
Inless
, for example, there's a-i
mode in which matching is case-insensitive if you only use lowercase letters in the pattern, but if there are any uppercase letters in the pattern, the whole thing is case-sensitive. That's like (sometimes) ignoring case in the contents but not the pattern.
– Wumpus Q. Wumbley
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Apparently I have a different manpage.
-i, --ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in
case match each other.
In any case, it's not about the filenames.
It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern.
Test file:
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
Grep results (ignore case of file contents):
$ grep hello test.txt
$ grep Hello test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i HELLO test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i hello test.txt
Hello World
Grep results (ignore case of pattern):
$ grep [a-Z] test.txt
grep: Invalid range end
$ grep -i [a-Z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i [A-z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep [A-z] test.txt
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
As you can see the results can sometimes be a little unexpected.
Not sure if there is an example where this actually matters more.
Apparently I have a different manpage.
-i, --ignore-case
Ignore case distinctions, so that characters that differ only in
case match each other.
In any case, it's not about the filenames.
It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern.
Test file:
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
Grep results (ignore case of file contents):
$ grep hello test.txt
$ grep Hello test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i HELLO test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i hello test.txt
Hello World
Grep results (ignore case of pattern):
$ grep [a-Z] test.txt
grep: Invalid range end
$ grep -i [a-Z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep -i [A-z] test.txt
Hello World
$ grep [A-z] test.txt
___________
Hello World
^^^^^^^^^^^
As you can see the results can sometimes be a little unexpected.
Not sure if there is an example where this actually matters more.
answered 2 hours ago
frostschutzfrostschutz
27.7k15790
27.7k15790
1
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern", this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it), that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents. I'd like to understand how this would work (ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
– grep
2 hours ago
1
Inless
, for example, there's a-i
mode in which matching is case-insensitive if you only use lowercase letters in the pattern, but if there are any uppercase letters in the pattern, the whole thing is case-sensitive. That's like (sometimes) ignoring case in the contents but not the pattern.
– Wumpus Q. Wumbley
1 hour ago
add a comment |
1
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern", this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it), that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents. I'd like to understand how this would work (ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
– grep
2 hours ago
1
Inless
, for example, there's a-i
mode in which matching is case-insensitive if you only use lowercase letters in the pattern, but if there are any uppercase letters in the pattern, the whole thing is case-sensitive. That's like (sometimes) ignoring case in the contents but not the pattern.
– Wumpus Q. Wumbley
1 hour ago
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"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern", this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it), that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents. I'd like to understand how this would work (ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
– grep
2 hours ago
"It ignores case in the file (contents) but also in the pattern", this suggests (although it doesn't necessarily say it), that it is possible to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents. I'd like to understand how this would work (ignoring pattern, but not contents -- or the other way around).
– grep
2 hours ago
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In
less
, for example, there's a -i
mode in which matching is case-insensitive if you only use lowercase letters in the pattern, but if there are any uppercase letters in the pattern, the whole thing is case-sensitive. That's like (sometimes) ignoring case in the contents but not the pattern.– Wumpus Q. Wumbley
1 hour ago
In
less
, for example, there's a -i
mode in which matching is case-insensitive if you only use lowercase letters in the pattern, but if there are any uppercase letters in the pattern, the whole thing is case-sensitive. That's like (sometimes) ignoring case in the contents but not the pattern.– Wumpus Q. Wumbley
1 hour ago
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@steeldriver I actually tried in several systems (all Linux). I'm using grep (GNU grep) 2.16. How can I get the information about the man page?
– grep
2 hours ago
No, you're not missing anything. It's not supposed to work --
grep
cannot ignore case differences in the filenames passed as arguments (what should it do? try all possible filenames combination when open(2)ing a file?Whatever
,wHaTevER
, etc? ;-)). I let the other find a rationalization for that confusing doc snippet.– mosvy
2 hours ago
@drewbenn Did you really? Or are you trying to find arguments to support that it is correct? This is a genuine question, I'm not trying to start a fight. And I have an additional question. If it is as you say, what would it mean to ignore case in the pattern, but not in the contents of the file? What functionality would this be and how would it differ from how it works?
– grep
2 hours ago
FWIW, the standard says only this about
-i
: "Perform pattern matching in searches without regard to case"– mosvy
2 hours ago
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@grep It DOES ignore case in the contents of the file as well as the pattern. It doesn't ignore case in the name of the file.
– Nasir Riley
2 hours ago