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Solve limit without using L'Hopital (first year problem for first year solution, not graduate level)
Zero to the zero power – is $0^0=1$?Solve the limit $limlimits_xto 0left(frac e^xx-frac 1arctanxright)$ without using L'Hopital (with my attempts)Trigonometric limit: $(1-sqrtcos x)/x^2$ as $xto 0$, without using L'HopitalSolving a limit without l'HopitalDetermine the limit without using l'hopital.Euler Limit of $fracx^x-x1-x+ln(x)$ Without L'HopitalLimit of integral without analytical solutionI need help solving a limit, without using l'hôpital's rule.Explain how to solve this trigonometric limit without L'Hôpital's rule?Elementary way to evaluate $lim_xto0fracsqrt[n]a+x - sqrt[n]a-xx$Limit without L'Hopital $lim_xto0fracpi - 4arctan1over 1+xx$Evaluate the Limit Without L'Hopital Rule
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I need to solve $$ lim_xto 0 (sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$$ Please note that I'm first year student and that this can be solved much simpler than in the answers. I tried doing $$lim_xto 0 e^x cdot lnBigl(sqrt2x+1-1-left(sqrt[3]1-3x-1right)Bigr)$$ then going with the limit inside the function like this
$$expleftlim_xto0x cdot
lnleft[lim_x to 0Bigl(sqrt2x+1-1Bigr) cdot
lim_x to 0 left(1-
frac sqrt[3]1-3x-1over x sqrt2x+1-1 over x right)right] right$$
But problem is that although I can solve third limit this way, I get that second limit is 0, which makes that 0 is inside of $ln$ and thus is incorrect attempt. Please help, I'm new here, I wan't to contribute back and this is from my university math exam.
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I need to solve $$ lim_xto 0 (sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$$ Please note that I'm first year student and that this can be solved much simpler than in the answers. I tried doing $$lim_xto 0 e^x cdot lnBigl(sqrt2x+1-1-left(sqrt[3]1-3x-1right)Bigr)$$ then going with the limit inside the function like this
$$expleftlim_xto0x cdot
lnleft[lim_x to 0Bigl(sqrt2x+1-1Bigr) cdot
lim_x to 0 left(1-
frac sqrt[3]1-3x-1over x sqrt2x+1-1 over x right)right] right$$
But problem is that although I can solve third limit this way, I get that second limit is 0, which makes that 0 is inside of $ln$ and thus is incorrect attempt. Please help, I'm new here, I wan't to contribute back and this is from my university math exam.
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By the way, the reason your attempt does not work is that you are allowed to push the operator $lim_x to x_0$ inside the argument of a function $f$ only when $f$ is continuous $x_0$. In this case, the function $ln$ is not continuous at $x_0 = 0$ because it is not even defined there.
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Thanks, I appreciate it.
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I need to solve $$ lim_xto 0 (sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$$ Please note that I'm first year student and that this can be solved much simpler than in the answers. I tried doing $$lim_xto 0 e^x cdot lnBigl(sqrt2x+1-1-left(sqrt[3]1-3x-1right)Bigr)$$ then going with the limit inside the function like this
$$expleftlim_xto0x cdot
lnleft[lim_x to 0Bigl(sqrt2x+1-1Bigr) cdot
lim_x to 0 left(1-
frac sqrt[3]1-3x-1over x sqrt2x+1-1 over x right)right] right$$
But problem is that although I can solve third limit this way, I get that second limit is 0, which makes that 0 is inside of $ln$ and thus is incorrect attempt. Please help, I'm new here, I wan't to contribute back and this is from my university math exam.
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I need to solve $$ lim_xto 0 (sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$$ Please note that I'm first year student and that this can be solved much simpler than in the answers. I tried doing $$lim_xto 0 e^x cdot lnBigl(sqrt2x+1-1-left(sqrt[3]1-3x-1right)Bigr)$$ then going with the limit inside the function like this
$$expleftlim_xto0x cdot
lnleft[lim_x to 0Bigl(sqrt2x+1-1Bigr) cdot
lim_x to 0 left(1-
frac sqrt[3]1-3x-1over x sqrt2x+1-1 over x right)right] right$$
But problem is that although I can solve third limit this way, I get that second limit is 0, which makes that 0 is inside of $ln$ and thus is incorrect attempt. Please help, I'm new here, I wan't to contribute back and this is from my university math exam.
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By the way, the reason your attempt does not work is that you are allowed to push the operator $lim_x to x_0$ inside the argument of a function $f$ only when $f$ is continuous $x_0$. In this case, the function $ln$ is not continuous at $x_0 = 0$ because it is not even defined there.
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Thanks, I appreciate it.
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By the way, the reason your attempt does not work is that you are allowed to push the operator $lim_x to x_0$ inside the argument of a function $f$ only when $f$ is continuous $x_0$. In this case, the function $ln$ is not continuous at $x_0 = 0$ because it is not even defined there.
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Thanks, I appreciate it.
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– dzaralica69
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By the way, the reason your attempt does not work is that you are allowed to push the operator $lim_x to x_0$ inside the argument of a function $f$ only when $f$ is continuous $x_0$. In this case, the function $ln$ is not continuous at $x_0 = 0$ because it is not even defined there.
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By the way, the reason your attempt does not work is that you are allowed to push the operator $lim_x to x_0$ inside the argument of a function $f$ only when $f$ is continuous $x_0$. In this case, the function $ln$ is not continuous at $x_0 = 0$ because it is not even defined there.
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Thanks, I appreciate it.
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We shall only try to find $lim_xto 0^+$ because for negative $x$ near $0$, the power is not defined (for reasons given below).
Working without little-o stuff:
Note that $$(1+x)^2=1+2x+x^2ge 1+2x$$ for all $x$
and of course $1<1+2x$ for all $x>0$.
We conclude that
$$1 <sqrt1+2xle 1+xqquadtextfor x>0.$$
Similarly,
$$ (1-x)^3=1-3x+3x^2-x^3>1-3xqquad textfor x<3$$
and
$$(1-2x)^3=1-6x+12x^2-8x^3<1-3x-3x(1-4x)<1-3x qquad textfor 0<x<frac14,$$
hence
$$1-2x<sqrt[3]1-3x<1-xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14 $$
and so
$$ x<sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x<4xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14.$$
(One can find similar bounds for negative $x$, showing that $sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xsim x<0$, and therefore $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is undefined for negative $x$ near $0$)
If we already know that $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$, it follows that $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is squeezed between $x^x$ and $4^xcdot x^x$ and, as $lim_xto 0^+4^x=1$, therefore also
$$ lim_xto0^+(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x=lim_xto0^+x^x=1.$$
Why is $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$?
Perhaps the most important inequality about the exponential is
$$ e^tge 1+tqquad textfor all tinBbb R.$$
Therefore, for $t>0$,
$$ e^t=(e^t/2)^2ge(1+tfrac t2)^2=1+t+frac14t^2>frac14t^2.$$
It follows that
$$0le lim_tto +inftyfracte^tle lim_tto +inftyfractfrac14t^2=0.$$
With $x=e^-t$ (i.e., $t=-ln x$), this becomes
$$lim_xto 0^+ xln x=0$$
and therefore
$$lim_xto0^+ x^x=lim_xto 0^+ e^xln x=e^lim_xto 0^+ xln x =e^0=1.$$
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Applause, thank you for simple solution
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Use equivalence:
$$bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x). $$
Now by the binomial expansion at order $1$:
$$(1+x)^alpha=1+alpha x+o(x),$$
one obtains, with $alpha=frac12$ and $alpha=frac13$,
$$sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3x=(1+x+o(x))-(1-x+o(x))=2x+o(x),$$
so that $ ;sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3xsim_0 2x$, and ultimately
$$xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x)sim_0 xln (2x)=xln 2+xln x,$$
which tends to $0$ when $x$ tends to $0$, so that
$$lim_xto 0bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^0=1.$$
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Can this be solved with just witty thinking, and not some big o notation and graduate level solutions?
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I used little o, and, for me this is only a first year college solution.
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$$left(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xright)^x=(1+x+o(x)-1+x+o(x))^x=2^xx^x(1+o(1))^x.$$
$2^xx^x rightarrow 1$, $(1+o(1))^x=e^xo(1)=e^o(1)=1+o(1)$, thus the limit is $1$.
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I have no idea what you just wrote, please elaborate, what is $o(x)$ ?
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
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I don't want to bother you again, since you helped me, and answer is answer, but can you solve it without using big o notation function, I'm first year electrical engineering student. Pretty please?
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Hint:
As lcm$(2,3)=6$
We have $$dfraclim_xto0((1+2x)^3-(1-3x)^2)^xlim_...(sum_r=0^5((1-2x)^r/2(1-3x)^(6-r)/3)^x$$
The denominator tends to $1$
The numerator $$=lim_...(12x+3x^2+8x^3)^x=lim_..(12x)^x(1+x/4+2x^2/3)^x=1$$
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I't square root and cube root, not power of two and three respectively.
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@dzaralica69, I have used $$a^6-b^6=(a-b)(?)$$
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But $(12x)^x$ is $0^0$ ?
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– dzaralica69
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@dzaralica69, math.stackexchange.com/questions/11150/…
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We shall only try to find $lim_xto 0^+$ because for negative $x$ near $0$, the power is not defined (for reasons given below).
Working without little-o stuff:
Note that $$(1+x)^2=1+2x+x^2ge 1+2x$$ for all $x$
and of course $1<1+2x$ for all $x>0$.
We conclude that
$$1 <sqrt1+2xle 1+xqquadtextfor x>0.$$
Similarly,
$$ (1-x)^3=1-3x+3x^2-x^3>1-3xqquad textfor x<3$$
and
$$(1-2x)^3=1-6x+12x^2-8x^3<1-3x-3x(1-4x)<1-3x qquad textfor 0<x<frac14,$$
hence
$$1-2x<sqrt[3]1-3x<1-xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14 $$
and so
$$ x<sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x<4xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14.$$
(One can find similar bounds for negative $x$, showing that $sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xsim x<0$, and therefore $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is undefined for negative $x$ near $0$)
If we already know that $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$, it follows that $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is squeezed between $x^x$ and $4^xcdot x^x$ and, as $lim_xto 0^+4^x=1$, therefore also
$$ lim_xto0^+(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x=lim_xto0^+x^x=1.$$
Why is $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$?
Perhaps the most important inequality about the exponential is
$$ e^tge 1+tqquad textfor all tinBbb R.$$
Therefore, for $t>0$,
$$ e^t=(e^t/2)^2ge(1+tfrac t2)^2=1+t+frac14t^2>frac14t^2.$$
It follows that
$$0le lim_tto +inftyfracte^tle lim_tto +inftyfractfrac14t^2=0.$$
With $x=e^-t$ (i.e., $t=-ln x$), this becomes
$$lim_xto 0^+ xln x=0$$
and therefore
$$lim_xto0^+ x^x=lim_xto 0^+ e^xln x=e^lim_xto 0^+ xln x =e^0=1.$$
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Applause, thank you for simple solution
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We shall only try to find $lim_xto 0^+$ because for negative $x$ near $0$, the power is not defined (for reasons given below).
Working without little-o stuff:
Note that $$(1+x)^2=1+2x+x^2ge 1+2x$$ for all $x$
and of course $1<1+2x$ for all $x>0$.
We conclude that
$$1 <sqrt1+2xle 1+xqquadtextfor x>0.$$
Similarly,
$$ (1-x)^3=1-3x+3x^2-x^3>1-3xqquad textfor x<3$$
and
$$(1-2x)^3=1-6x+12x^2-8x^3<1-3x-3x(1-4x)<1-3x qquad textfor 0<x<frac14,$$
hence
$$1-2x<sqrt[3]1-3x<1-xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14 $$
and so
$$ x<sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x<4xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14.$$
(One can find similar bounds for negative $x$, showing that $sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xsim x<0$, and therefore $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is undefined for negative $x$ near $0$)
If we already know that $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$, it follows that $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is squeezed between $x^x$ and $4^xcdot x^x$ and, as $lim_xto 0^+4^x=1$, therefore also
$$ lim_xto0^+(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x=lim_xto0^+x^x=1.$$
Why is $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$?
Perhaps the most important inequality about the exponential is
$$ e^tge 1+tqquad textfor all tinBbb R.$$
Therefore, for $t>0$,
$$ e^t=(e^t/2)^2ge(1+tfrac t2)^2=1+t+frac14t^2>frac14t^2.$$
It follows that
$$0le lim_tto +inftyfracte^tle lim_tto +inftyfractfrac14t^2=0.$$
With $x=e^-t$ (i.e., $t=-ln x$), this becomes
$$lim_xto 0^+ xln x=0$$
and therefore
$$lim_xto0^+ x^x=lim_xto 0^+ e^xln x=e^lim_xto 0^+ xln x =e^0=1.$$
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Applause, thank you for simple solution
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We shall only try to find $lim_xto 0^+$ because for negative $x$ near $0$, the power is not defined (for reasons given below).
Working without little-o stuff:
Note that $$(1+x)^2=1+2x+x^2ge 1+2x$$ for all $x$
and of course $1<1+2x$ for all $x>0$.
We conclude that
$$1 <sqrt1+2xle 1+xqquadtextfor x>0.$$
Similarly,
$$ (1-x)^3=1-3x+3x^2-x^3>1-3xqquad textfor x<3$$
and
$$(1-2x)^3=1-6x+12x^2-8x^3<1-3x-3x(1-4x)<1-3x qquad textfor 0<x<frac14,$$
hence
$$1-2x<sqrt[3]1-3x<1-xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14 $$
and so
$$ x<sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x<4xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14.$$
(One can find similar bounds for negative $x$, showing that $sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xsim x<0$, and therefore $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is undefined for negative $x$ near $0$)
If we already know that $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$, it follows that $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is squeezed between $x^x$ and $4^xcdot x^x$ and, as $lim_xto 0^+4^x=1$, therefore also
$$ lim_xto0^+(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x=lim_xto0^+x^x=1.$$
Why is $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$?
Perhaps the most important inequality about the exponential is
$$ e^tge 1+tqquad textfor all tinBbb R.$$
Therefore, for $t>0$,
$$ e^t=(e^t/2)^2ge(1+tfrac t2)^2=1+t+frac14t^2>frac14t^2.$$
It follows that
$$0le lim_tto +inftyfracte^tle lim_tto +inftyfractfrac14t^2=0.$$
With $x=e^-t$ (i.e., $t=-ln x$), this becomes
$$lim_xto 0^+ xln x=0$$
and therefore
$$lim_xto0^+ x^x=lim_xto 0^+ e^xln x=e^lim_xto 0^+ xln x =e^0=1.$$
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We shall only try to find $lim_xto 0^+$ because for negative $x$ near $0$, the power is not defined (for reasons given below).
Working without little-o stuff:
Note that $$(1+x)^2=1+2x+x^2ge 1+2x$$ for all $x$
and of course $1<1+2x$ for all $x>0$.
We conclude that
$$1 <sqrt1+2xle 1+xqquadtextfor x>0.$$
Similarly,
$$ (1-x)^3=1-3x+3x^2-x^3>1-3xqquad textfor x<3$$
and
$$(1-2x)^3=1-6x+12x^2-8x^3<1-3x-3x(1-4x)<1-3x qquad textfor 0<x<frac14,$$
hence
$$1-2x<sqrt[3]1-3x<1-xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14 $$
and so
$$ x<sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x<4xqquadtextfor 0<x<frac14.$$
(One can find similar bounds for negative $x$, showing that $sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xsim x<0$, and therefore $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is undefined for negative $x$ near $0$)
If we already know that $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$, it follows that $(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x$ is squeezed between $x^x$ and $4^xcdot x^x$ and, as $lim_xto 0^+4^x=1$, therefore also
$$ lim_xto0^+(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3x)^x=lim_xto0^+x^x=1.$$
Why is $lim_xto 0^+x^x=1$?
Perhaps the most important inequality about the exponential is
$$ e^tge 1+tqquad textfor all tinBbb R.$$
Therefore, for $t>0$,
$$ e^t=(e^t/2)^2ge(1+tfrac t2)^2=1+t+frac14t^2>frac14t^2.$$
It follows that
$$0le lim_tto +inftyfracte^tle lim_tto +inftyfractfrac14t^2=0.$$
With $x=e^-t$ (i.e., $t=-ln x$), this becomes
$$lim_xto 0^+ xln x=0$$
and therefore
$$lim_xto0^+ x^x=lim_xto 0^+ e^xln x=e^lim_xto 0^+ xln x =e^0=1.$$
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Applause, thank you for simple solution
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Applause, thank you for simple solution
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Applause, thank you for simple solution
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Use equivalence:
$$bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x). $$
Now by the binomial expansion at order $1$:
$$(1+x)^alpha=1+alpha x+o(x),$$
one obtains, with $alpha=frac12$ and $alpha=frac13$,
$$sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3x=(1+x+o(x))-(1-x+o(x))=2x+o(x),$$
so that $ ;sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3xsim_0 2x$, and ultimately
$$xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x)sim_0 xln (2x)=xln 2+xln x,$$
which tends to $0$ when $x$ tends to $0$, so that
$$lim_xto 0bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^0=1.$$
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Can this be solved with just witty thinking, and not some big o notation and graduate level solutions?
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– dzaralica69
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I used little o, and, for me this is only a first year college solution.
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Use equivalence:
$$bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x). $$
Now by the binomial expansion at order $1$:
$$(1+x)^alpha=1+alpha x+o(x),$$
one obtains, with $alpha=frac12$ and $alpha=frac13$,
$$sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3x=(1+x+o(x))-(1-x+o(x))=2x+o(x),$$
so that $ ;sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3xsim_0 2x$, and ultimately
$$xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x)sim_0 xln (2x)=xln 2+xln x,$$
which tends to $0$ when $x$ tends to $0$, so that
$$lim_xto 0bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^0=1.$$
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Can this be solved with just witty thinking, and not some big o notation and graduate level solutions?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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I used little o, and, for me this is only a first year college solution.
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– Bernard
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Use equivalence:
$$bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x). $$
Now by the binomial expansion at order $1$:
$$(1+x)^alpha=1+alpha x+o(x),$$
one obtains, with $alpha=frac12$ and $alpha=frac13$,
$$sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3x=(1+x+o(x))-(1-x+o(x))=2x+o(x),$$
so that $ ;sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3xsim_0 2x$, and ultimately
$$xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x)sim_0 xln (2x)=xln 2+xln x,$$
which tends to $0$ when $x$ tends to $0$, so that
$$lim_xto 0bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^0=1.$$
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Use equivalence:
$$bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x). $$
Now by the binomial expansion at order $1$:
$$(1+x)^alpha=1+alpha x+o(x),$$
one obtains, with $alpha=frac12$ and $alpha=frac13$,
$$sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3x=(1+x+o(x))-(1-x+o(x))=2x+o(x),$$
so that $ ;sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3xsim_0 2x$, and ultimately
$$xln(sqrt 2x+1 - sqrt[3]1-3x)sim_0 xln (2x)=xln 2+xln x,$$
which tends to $0$ when $x$ tends to $0$, so that
$$lim_xto 0bigl(sqrt 2x+1 -sqrt[3]1-3xbigr)^x=mathrm e^0=1.$$
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answered 9 hours ago
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Can this be solved with just witty thinking, and not some big o notation and graduate level solutions?
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– dzaralica69
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I used little o, and, for me this is only a first year college solution.
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– Bernard
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Can this be solved with just witty thinking, and not some big o notation and graduate level solutions?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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I used little o, and, for me this is only a first year college solution.
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– Bernard
9 hours ago
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Can this be solved with just witty thinking, and not some big o notation and graduate level solutions?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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Can this be solved with just witty thinking, and not some big o notation and graduate level solutions?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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I used little o, and, for me this is only a first year college solution.
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– Bernard
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I used little o, and, for me this is only a first year college solution.
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$$left(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xright)^x=(1+x+o(x)-1+x+o(x))^x=2^xx^x(1+o(1))^x.$$
$2^xx^x rightarrow 1$, $(1+o(1))^x=e^xo(1)=e^o(1)=1+o(1)$, thus the limit is $1$.
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I have no idea what you just wrote, please elaborate, what is $o(x)$ ?
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
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– Mindlack
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I don't want to bother you again, since you helped me, and answer is answer, but can you solve it without using big o notation function, I'm first year electrical engineering student. Pretty please?
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$$left(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xright)^x=(1+x+o(x)-1+x+o(x))^x=2^xx^x(1+o(1))^x.$$
$2^xx^x rightarrow 1$, $(1+o(1))^x=e^xo(1)=e^o(1)=1+o(1)$, thus the limit is $1$.
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I have no idea what you just wrote, please elaborate, what is $o(x)$ ?
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
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– Mindlack
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I don't want to bother you again, since you helped me, and answer is answer, but can you solve it without using big o notation function, I'm first year electrical engineering student. Pretty please?
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$$left(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xright)^x=(1+x+o(x)-1+x+o(x))^x=2^xx^x(1+o(1))^x.$$
$2^xx^x rightarrow 1$, $(1+o(1))^x=e^xo(1)=e^o(1)=1+o(1)$, thus the limit is $1$.
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$$left(sqrt1+2x-sqrt[3]1-3xright)^x=(1+x+o(x)-1+x+o(x))^x=2^xx^x(1+o(1))^x.$$
$2^xx^x rightarrow 1$, $(1+o(1))^x=e^xo(1)=e^o(1)=1+o(1)$, thus the limit is $1$.
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I have no idea what you just wrote, please elaborate, what is $o(x)$ ?
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
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– Mindlack
10 hours ago
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I don't want to bother you again, since you helped me, and answer is answer, but can you solve it without using big o notation function, I'm first year electrical engineering student. Pretty please?
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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I have no idea what you just wrote, please elaborate, what is $o(x)$ ?
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
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– Mindlack
10 hours ago
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I don't want to bother you again, since you helped me, and answer is answer, but can you solve it without using big o notation function, I'm first year electrical engineering student. Pretty please?
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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I have no idea what you just wrote, please elaborate, what is $o(x)$ ?
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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I have no idea what you just wrote, please elaborate, what is $o(x)$ ?
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
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– Mindlack
10 hours ago
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
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– Mindlack
10 hours ago
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I don't want to bother you again, since you helped me, and answer is answer, but can you solve it without using big o notation function, I'm first year electrical engineering student. Pretty please?
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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I don't want to bother you again, since you helped me, and answer is answer, but can you solve it without using big o notation function, I'm first year electrical engineering student. Pretty please?
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Hint:
As lcm$(2,3)=6$
We have $$dfraclim_xto0((1+2x)^3-(1-3x)^2)^xlim_...(sum_r=0^5((1-2x)^r/2(1-3x)^(6-r)/3)^x$$
The denominator tends to $1$
The numerator $$=lim_...(12x+3x^2+8x^3)^x=lim_..(12x)^x(1+x/4+2x^2/3)^x=1$$
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I't square root and cube root, not power of two and three respectively.
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, I have used $$a^6-b^6=(a-b)(?)$$
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9 hours ago
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But $(12x)^x$ is $0^0$ ?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, math.stackexchange.com/questions/11150/…
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Hint:
As lcm$(2,3)=6$
We have $$dfraclim_xto0((1+2x)^3-(1-3x)^2)^xlim_...(sum_r=0^5((1-2x)^r/2(1-3x)^(6-r)/3)^x$$
The denominator tends to $1$
The numerator $$=lim_...(12x+3x^2+8x^3)^x=lim_..(12x)^x(1+x/4+2x^2/3)^x=1$$
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I't square root and cube root, not power of two and three respectively.
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, I have used $$a^6-b^6=(a-b)(?)$$
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– lab bhattacharjee
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But $(12x)^x$ is $0^0$ ?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, math.stackexchange.com/questions/11150/…
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Hint:
As lcm$(2,3)=6$
We have $$dfraclim_xto0((1+2x)^3-(1-3x)^2)^xlim_...(sum_r=0^5((1-2x)^r/2(1-3x)^(6-r)/3)^x$$
The denominator tends to $1$
The numerator $$=lim_...(12x+3x^2+8x^3)^x=lim_..(12x)^x(1+x/4+2x^2/3)^x=1$$
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Hint:
As lcm$(2,3)=6$
We have $$dfraclim_xto0((1+2x)^3-(1-3x)^2)^xlim_...(sum_r=0^5((1-2x)^r/2(1-3x)^(6-r)/3)^x$$
The denominator tends to $1$
The numerator $$=lim_...(12x+3x^2+8x^3)^x=lim_..(12x)^x(1+x/4+2x^2/3)^x=1$$
answered 10 hours ago
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I't square root and cube root, not power of two and three respectively.
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, I have used $$a^6-b^6=(a-b)(?)$$
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– lab bhattacharjee
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But $(12x)^x$ is $0^0$ ?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, math.stackexchange.com/questions/11150/…
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I't square root and cube root, not power of two and three respectively.
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, I have used $$a^6-b^6=(a-b)(?)$$
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– lab bhattacharjee
9 hours ago
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But $(12x)^x$ is $0^0$ ?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, math.stackexchange.com/questions/11150/…
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– lab bhattacharjee
9 hours ago
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I't square root and cube root, not power of two and three respectively.
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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I't square root and cube root, not power of two and three respectively.
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– dzaralica69
10 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, I have used $$a^6-b^6=(a-b)(?)$$
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– lab bhattacharjee
9 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, I have used $$a^6-b^6=(a-b)(?)$$
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– lab bhattacharjee
9 hours ago
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But $(12x)^x$ is $0^0$ ?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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But $(12x)^x$ is $0^0$ ?
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– dzaralica69
9 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, math.stackexchange.com/questions/11150/…
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– lab bhattacharjee
9 hours ago
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@dzaralica69, math.stackexchange.com/questions/11150/…
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By the way, the reason your attempt does not work is that you are allowed to push the operator $lim_x to x_0$ inside the argument of a function $f$ only when $f$ is continuous $x_0$. In this case, the function $ln$ is not continuous at $x_0 = 0$ because it is not even defined there.
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Thanks, I appreciate it.
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