Pocket Clarketech
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Background:
In the year 2204, humans have colonized most of the inner solar system. During the first explorations of the vast outer system, a team of researchers uncovers a series of alien artifacts. These devices are capable of global atmospheric and solar manipulation. However, their size is the most shocking factor.
They are small enough to fit in one's pocket.
How is it scientifically possible to produce this much capability in a single object of this size? Keep in mind that the aliens are at approximately Kardashev 1 level; they are not yet at Dyson swarm-nanotech level.
science-fiction space hard-science
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Background:
In the year 2204, humans have colonized most of the inner solar system. During the first explorations of the vast outer system, a team of researchers uncovers a series of alien artifacts. These devices are capable of global atmospheric and solar manipulation. However, their size is the most shocking factor.
They are small enough to fit in one's pocket.
How is it scientifically possible to produce this much capability in a single object of this size? Keep in mind that the aliens are at approximately Kardashev 1 level; they are not yet at Dyson swarm-nanotech level.
science-fiction space hard-science
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I have pocket size device called a pair of sunglasses which is capable of solar manipulation; when I put them on the sun's luminous intensity drops a lot. I also have another pocket size device called a collapsible umbrella which is capable of atmospheric manipulation: namely, it stops rain. I didn't know that sunglasses and umbrellas were clarketech.
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Edited to improve clarity; the devices are capable of globally manipulating conditions. In response I say; :)
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hard-science and science-fiction in the same question seems like a bad match...
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Hard science at all seems quite inappropriate here.
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Background:
In the year 2204, humans have colonized most of the inner solar system. During the first explorations of the vast outer system, a team of researchers uncovers a series of alien artifacts. These devices are capable of global atmospheric and solar manipulation. However, their size is the most shocking factor.
They are small enough to fit in one's pocket.
How is it scientifically possible to produce this much capability in a single object of this size? Keep in mind that the aliens are at approximately Kardashev 1 level; they are not yet at Dyson swarm-nanotech level.
science-fiction space hard-science
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Background:
In the year 2204, humans have colonized most of the inner solar system. During the first explorations of the vast outer system, a team of researchers uncovers a series of alien artifacts. These devices are capable of global atmospheric and solar manipulation. However, their size is the most shocking factor.
They are small enough to fit in one's pocket.
How is it scientifically possible to produce this much capability in a single object of this size? Keep in mind that the aliens are at approximately Kardashev 1 level; they are not yet at Dyson swarm-nanotech level.
science-fiction space hard-science
science-fiction space hard-science
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I have pocket size device called a pair of sunglasses which is capable of solar manipulation; when I put them on the sun's luminous intensity drops a lot. I also have another pocket size device called a collapsible umbrella which is capable of atmospheric manipulation: namely, it stops rain. I didn't know that sunglasses and umbrellas were clarketech.
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– AlexP
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Edited to improve clarity; the devices are capable of globally manipulating conditions. In response I say; :)
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– Lelu
7 hours ago
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hard-science and science-fiction in the same question seems like a bad match...
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– Renan
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Hard science at all seems quite inappropriate here.
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I have pocket size device called a pair of sunglasses which is capable of solar manipulation; when I put them on the sun's luminous intensity drops a lot. I also have another pocket size device called a collapsible umbrella which is capable of atmospheric manipulation: namely, it stops rain. I didn't know that sunglasses and umbrellas were clarketech.
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– AlexP
8 hours ago
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Edited to improve clarity; the devices are capable of globally manipulating conditions. In response I say; :)
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– Lelu
7 hours ago
1
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hard-science and science-fiction in the same question seems like a bad match...
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– Renan
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Hard science at all seems quite inappropriate here.
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– Starfish Prime
5 hours ago
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I have pocket size device called a pair of sunglasses which is capable of solar manipulation; when I put them on the sun's luminous intensity drops a lot. I also have another pocket size device called a collapsible umbrella which is capable of atmospheric manipulation: namely, it stops rain. I didn't know that sunglasses and umbrellas were clarketech.
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– AlexP
8 hours ago
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I have pocket size device called a pair of sunglasses which is capable of solar manipulation; when I put them on the sun's luminous intensity drops a lot. I also have another pocket size device called a collapsible umbrella which is capable of atmospheric manipulation: namely, it stops rain. I didn't know that sunglasses and umbrellas were clarketech.
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– AlexP
8 hours ago
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Edited to improve clarity; the devices are capable of globally manipulating conditions. In response I say; :)
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– Lelu
7 hours ago
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Edited to improve clarity; the devices are capable of globally manipulating conditions. In response I say; :)
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– Lelu
7 hours ago
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hard-science and science-fiction in the same question seems like a bad match...
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– Renan
5 hours ago
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hard-science and science-fiction in the same question seems like a bad match...
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– Renan
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Hard science at all seems quite inappropriate here.
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Hard science at all seems quite inappropriate here.
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The devices are the controllers not the engines
Through relatively low energy communication they control a vast array of machinery scattered throughout the solar system, cold and thus yet to be detected.
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You beat me to this answer by one second :P
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– Gilad M
7 hours ago
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Unfortunately this is a hard-science question, therefore answers need to include equations or references to papers.
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– Renan
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@Renan you want a reference to prove that remote controls are plausible things? I can suggest US Patent 613809. The question didn't ask for details or plausibility of the atmospheric or solar control systems, after all.
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– Starfish Prime
4 hours ago
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This is in fact the only answer that’s even remotely possible under the hard science tag, unless I miss my guess.
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– Joe Bloggs
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@JoeBloggs That's why I dismissed my speculative "Dimension-compactification" tech as a potential answer.
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3 hours ago
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The aspect of these items which projects into our 3d space is small. The items are not.
Multidimensional space is a favorite of mine. Additional spatial dimensions beyond our familiar 3 spatial and 1 temporal is not wacky magic; mathematics easily describes additional spatial dimensions although physics struggles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension#Spatial_dimensions
In addition to small and curled up extra dimensions, there may be
extra dimensions that instead aren't apparent because the matter
associated with our visible universe is localized on a (3 +
1)-dimensional subspace. Thus the extra dimensions need not be small
and compact but may be large extra dimensions. D-branes are dynamical
extended objects of various dimensionalities predicted by string
theory that could play this role. They have the property that open
string excitations, which are associated with gauge interactions, are
confined to the brane by their endpoints, whereas the closed strings
that mediate the gravitational interaction are free to propagate into
the whole spacetime, or "the bulk". This could be related to why
gravity is exponentially weaker than the other forces, as it
effectively dilutes itself as it propagates into a higher-dimensional
volume.
Your items have only a pocket sized component projecting into our dimension. They have much more to them. Perhaps they are hexeracts, a cool word I learned just now.
Moving such an object depends on how the physics works and how the 3d component we perceive is connected to the greater whole. I would argue that it is impossible, from our planes, to impart a vector which rotates such an object along one of its higher dimensions. That does not mean that such a force might not be imparted to the object from a higher dimension, in which case the pocket sized object might disappear, or suddenly and drastically change shape and size. Maybe don't actually carry these in your pocket.
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The devices are the controllers not the engines
Through relatively low energy communication they control a vast array of machinery scattered throughout the solar system, cold and thus yet to be detected.
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You beat me to this answer by one second :P
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– Gilad M
7 hours ago
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Unfortunately this is a hard-science question, therefore answers need to include equations or references to papers.
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– Renan
5 hours ago
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@Renan you want a reference to prove that remote controls are plausible things? I can suggest US Patent 613809. The question didn't ask for details or plausibility of the atmospheric or solar control systems, after all.
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– Starfish Prime
4 hours ago
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This is in fact the only answer that’s even remotely possible under the hard science tag, unless I miss my guess.
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– Joe Bloggs
4 hours ago
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@JoeBloggs That's why I dismissed my speculative "Dimension-compactification" tech as a potential answer.
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– Chickens are not cows
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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The devices are the controllers not the engines
Through relatively low energy communication they control a vast array of machinery scattered throughout the solar system, cold and thus yet to be detected.
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You beat me to this answer by one second :P
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– Gilad M
7 hours ago
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Unfortunately this is a hard-science question, therefore answers need to include equations or references to papers.
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– Renan
5 hours ago
2
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@Renan you want a reference to prove that remote controls are plausible things? I can suggest US Patent 613809. The question didn't ask for details or plausibility of the atmospheric or solar control systems, after all.
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– Starfish Prime
4 hours ago
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This is in fact the only answer that’s even remotely possible under the hard science tag, unless I miss my guess.
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– Joe Bloggs
4 hours ago
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@JoeBloggs That's why I dismissed my speculative "Dimension-compactification" tech as a potential answer.
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– Chickens are not cows
3 hours ago
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The devices are the controllers not the engines
Through relatively low energy communication they control a vast array of machinery scattered throughout the solar system, cold and thus yet to be detected.
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The devices are the controllers not the engines
Through relatively low energy communication they control a vast array of machinery scattered throughout the solar system, cold and thus yet to be detected.
answered 7 hours ago
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You beat me to this answer by one second :P
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– Gilad M
7 hours ago
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Unfortunately this is a hard-science question, therefore answers need to include equations or references to papers.
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– Renan
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@Renan you want a reference to prove that remote controls are plausible things? I can suggest US Patent 613809. The question didn't ask for details or plausibility of the atmospheric or solar control systems, after all.
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– Starfish Prime
4 hours ago
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This is in fact the only answer that’s even remotely possible under the hard science tag, unless I miss my guess.
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– Joe Bloggs
4 hours ago
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@JoeBloggs That's why I dismissed my speculative "Dimension-compactification" tech as a potential answer.
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– Chickens are not cows
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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You beat me to this answer by one second :P
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– Gilad M
7 hours ago
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Unfortunately this is a hard-science question, therefore answers need to include equations or references to papers.
$endgroup$
– Renan
5 hours ago
2
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@Renan you want a reference to prove that remote controls are plausible things? I can suggest US Patent 613809. The question didn't ask for details or plausibility of the atmospheric or solar control systems, after all.
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– Starfish Prime
4 hours ago
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This is in fact the only answer that’s even remotely possible under the hard science tag, unless I miss my guess.
$endgroup$
– Joe Bloggs
4 hours ago
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@JoeBloggs That's why I dismissed my speculative "Dimension-compactification" tech as a potential answer.
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– Chickens are not cows
3 hours ago
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You beat me to this answer by one second :P
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– Gilad M
7 hours ago
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You beat me to this answer by one second :P
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– Gilad M
7 hours ago
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Unfortunately this is a hard-science question, therefore answers need to include equations or references to papers.
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– Renan
5 hours ago
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Unfortunately this is a hard-science question, therefore answers need to include equations or references to papers.
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– Renan
5 hours ago
2
2
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@Renan you want a reference to prove that remote controls are plausible things? I can suggest US Patent 613809. The question didn't ask for details or plausibility of the atmospheric or solar control systems, after all.
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– Starfish Prime
4 hours ago
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@Renan you want a reference to prove that remote controls are plausible things? I can suggest US Patent 613809. The question didn't ask for details or plausibility of the atmospheric or solar control systems, after all.
$endgroup$
– Starfish Prime
4 hours ago
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This is in fact the only answer that’s even remotely possible under the hard science tag, unless I miss my guess.
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– Joe Bloggs
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
This is in fact the only answer that’s even remotely possible under the hard science tag, unless I miss my guess.
$endgroup$
– Joe Bloggs
4 hours ago
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@JoeBloggs That's why I dismissed my speculative "Dimension-compactification" tech as a potential answer.
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– Chickens are not cows
3 hours ago
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@JoeBloggs That's why I dismissed my speculative "Dimension-compactification" tech as a potential answer.
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– Chickens are not cows
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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The aspect of these items which projects into our 3d space is small. The items are not.
Multidimensional space is a favorite of mine. Additional spatial dimensions beyond our familiar 3 spatial and 1 temporal is not wacky magic; mathematics easily describes additional spatial dimensions although physics struggles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension#Spatial_dimensions
In addition to small and curled up extra dimensions, there may be
extra dimensions that instead aren't apparent because the matter
associated with our visible universe is localized on a (3 +
1)-dimensional subspace. Thus the extra dimensions need not be small
and compact but may be large extra dimensions. D-branes are dynamical
extended objects of various dimensionalities predicted by string
theory that could play this role. They have the property that open
string excitations, which are associated with gauge interactions, are
confined to the brane by their endpoints, whereas the closed strings
that mediate the gravitational interaction are free to propagate into
the whole spacetime, or "the bulk". This could be related to why
gravity is exponentially weaker than the other forces, as it
effectively dilutes itself as it propagates into a higher-dimensional
volume.
Your items have only a pocket sized component projecting into our dimension. They have much more to them. Perhaps they are hexeracts, a cool word I learned just now.
Moving such an object depends on how the physics works and how the 3d component we perceive is connected to the greater whole. I would argue that it is impossible, from our planes, to impart a vector which rotates such an object along one of its higher dimensions. That does not mean that such a force might not be imparted to the object from a higher dimension, in which case the pocket sized object might disappear, or suddenly and drastically change shape and size. Maybe don't actually carry these in your pocket.
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Well, I guess someone had to, and your version is better than mine would have been.
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– Chickens are not cows
2 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The aspect of these items which projects into our 3d space is small. The items are not.
Multidimensional space is a favorite of mine. Additional spatial dimensions beyond our familiar 3 spatial and 1 temporal is not wacky magic; mathematics easily describes additional spatial dimensions although physics struggles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension#Spatial_dimensions
In addition to small and curled up extra dimensions, there may be
extra dimensions that instead aren't apparent because the matter
associated with our visible universe is localized on a (3 +
1)-dimensional subspace. Thus the extra dimensions need not be small
and compact but may be large extra dimensions. D-branes are dynamical
extended objects of various dimensionalities predicted by string
theory that could play this role. They have the property that open
string excitations, which are associated with gauge interactions, are
confined to the brane by their endpoints, whereas the closed strings
that mediate the gravitational interaction are free to propagate into
the whole spacetime, or "the bulk". This could be related to why
gravity is exponentially weaker than the other forces, as it
effectively dilutes itself as it propagates into a higher-dimensional
volume.
Your items have only a pocket sized component projecting into our dimension. They have much more to them. Perhaps they are hexeracts, a cool word I learned just now.
Moving such an object depends on how the physics works and how the 3d component we perceive is connected to the greater whole. I would argue that it is impossible, from our planes, to impart a vector which rotates such an object along one of its higher dimensions. That does not mean that such a force might not be imparted to the object from a higher dimension, in which case the pocket sized object might disappear, or suddenly and drastically change shape and size. Maybe don't actually carry these in your pocket.
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Well, I guess someone had to, and your version is better than mine would have been.
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– Chickens are not cows
2 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The aspect of these items which projects into our 3d space is small. The items are not.
Multidimensional space is a favorite of mine. Additional spatial dimensions beyond our familiar 3 spatial and 1 temporal is not wacky magic; mathematics easily describes additional spatial dimensions although physics struggles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension#Spatial_dimensions
In addition to small and curled up extra dimensions, there may be
extra dimensions that instead aren't apparent because the matter
associated with our visible universe is localized on a (3 +
1)-dimensional subspace. Thus the extra dimensions need not be small
and compact but may be large extra dimensions. D-branes are dynamical
extended objects of various dimensionalities predicted by string
theory that could play this role. They have the property that open
string excitations, which are associated with gauge interactions, are
confined to the brane by their endpoints, whereas the closed strings
that mediate the gravitational interaction are free to propagate into
the whole spacetime, or "the bulk". This could be related to why
gravity is exponentially weaker than the other forces, as it
effectively dilutes itself as it propagates into a higher-dimensional
volume.
Your items have only a pocket sized component projecting into our dimension. They have much more to them. Perhaps they are hexeracts, a cool word I learned just now.
Moving such an object depends on how the physics works and how the 3d component we perceive is connected to the greater whole. I would argue that it is impossible, from our planes, to impart a vector which rotates such an object along one of its higher dimensions. That does not mean that such a force might not be imparted to the object from a higher dimension, in which case the pocket sized object might disappear, or suddenly and drastically change shape and size. Maybe don't actually carry these in your pocket.
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The aspect of these items which projects into our 3d space is small. The items are not.
Multidimensional space is a favorite of mine. Additional spatial dimensions beyond our familiar 3 spatial and 1 temporal is not wacky magic; mathematics easily describes additional spatial dimensions although physics struggles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension#Spatial_dimensions
In addition to small and curled up extra dimensions, there may be
extra dimensions that instead aren't apparent because the matter
associated with our visible universe is localized on a (3 +
1)-dimensional subspace. Thus the extra dimensions need not be small
and compact but may be large extra dimensions. D-branes are dynamical
extended objects of various dimensionalities predicted by string
theory that could play this role. They have the property that open
string excitations, which are associated with gauge interactions, are
confined to the brane by their endpoints, whereas the closed strings
that mediate the gravitational interaction are free to propagate into
the whole spacetime, or "the bulk". This could be related to why
gravity is exponentially weaker than the other forces, as it
effectively dilutes itself as it propagates into a higher-dimensional
volume.
Your items have only a pocket sized component projecting into our dimension. They have much more to them. Perhaps they are hexeracts, a cool word I learned just now.
Moving such an object depends on how the physics works and how the 3d component we perceive is connected to the greater whole. I would argue that it is impossible, from our planes, to impart a vector which rotates such an object along one of its higher dimensions. That does not mean that such a force might not be imparted to the object from a higher dimension, in which case the pocket sized object might disappear, or suddenly and drastically change shape and size. Maybe don't actually carry these in your pocket.
answered 2 hours ago
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Well, I guess someone had to, and your version is better than mine would have been.
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I have pocket size device called a pair of sunglasses which is capable of solar manipulation; when I put them on the sun's luminous intensity drops a lot. I also have another pocket size device called a collapsible umbrella which is capable of atmospheric manipulation: namely, it stops rain. I didn't know that sunglasses and umbrellas were clarketech.
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– AlexP
8 hours ago
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Edited to improve clarity; the devices are capable of globally manipulating conditions. In response I say; :)
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– Lelu
7 hours ago
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hard-science and science-fiction in the same question seems like a bad match...
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– Renan
5 hours ago
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Hard science at all seems quite inappropriate here.
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– Starfish Prime
5 hours ago