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GFCI No Equipment Ground not testing


Will a GFCI device work on circuit where the neutral is switched?What problems could occur if I plugged a 3-prong plug into a receptacle labeled “No Equipment Ground”?Ungrounded outlet indicates grounded when an UPS is plugged inAFCI breaker trips when GFCI receptable's test button is pressedGFCI tester doesn't trip GFCI. Bootleg ground?Testing my 2-wire home receptacles with a Southwire model 50020S-AGFCI seemed to fizzle and pop, and now works as a non-GFCI outlet - what happened?Installing GFCI outlets in multiwire branch circuitGfci not workingGCFI “test” button will not cause a trip






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A GFCI installed near a sink has this sticker on it. From what I gather online, this means the outlet was installed on place of an old 2 wire outlet, and it's safe anyway, and up to code. But it's not shutting off when I press the test button. Is that normal for an ungrounded GFCI? Is it supposed to test with the button even when no equipment is grounded?










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      A GFCI installed near a sink has this sticker on it. From what I gather online, this means the outlet was installed on place of an old 2 wire outlet, and it's safe anyway, and up to code. But it's not shutting off when I press the test button. Is that normal for an ungrounded GFCI? Is it supposed to test with the button even when no equipment is grounded?










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          When equipment ground is not present, GFCI devices should test properly.



          However, if equipment ground is not present, external GFCI testers there or at downline outlets should not test successfully. Their built-in 3-lamp tester should only display one yellow light. If it displays two but doesn't trip the GFCI, that means a bootleg ground, which makes the GFCI's protection worthless.






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            I replaced the GFCI while I was waiting for an answer. The new one tests, so I guess it WAS a bad outlet... Also it had a ground wire? So maybe the old maintenance guy was even more clueless than me?






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              GFCI without ground is safe but won't trip with the usual tester. But having ground is better and it sounds like the previous guy just didn't know how to do that.

              – manassehkatz
              8 hours ago











            • Did you connect the GFCI ground wire to an actual ground??

              – JACK
              8 hours ago











            • Jack I don't know how to identify an "actual" ground... But I attached the green screw (of the new GFCI) to the copper wire (which was already in there).

              – user105754
              8 hours ago











            • You did it right. If you have an outlet tester it will confirm a good ground. Also, a volt meter going from hot to ground showing 120 V +- .

              – JACK
              7 hours ago











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            When equipment ground is not present, GFCI devices should test properly.



            However, if equipment ground is not present, external GFCI testers there or at downline outlets should not test successfully. Their built-in 3-lamp tester should only display one yellow light. If it displays two but doesn't trip the GFCI, that means a bootleg ground, which makes the GFCI's protection worthless.






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              When equipment ground is not present, GFCI devices should test properly.



              However, if equipment ground is not present, external GFCI testers there or at downline outlets should not test successfully. Their built-in 3-lamp tester should only display one yellow light. If it displays two but doesn't trip the GFCI, that means a bootleg ground, which makes the GFCI's protection worthless.






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                When equipment ground is not present, GFCI devices should test properly.



                However, if equipment ground is not present, external GFCI testers there or at downline outlets should not test successfully. Their built-in 3-lamp tester should only display one yellow light. If it displays two but doesn't trip the GFCI, that means a bootleg ground, which makes the GFCI's protection worthless.






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                When equipment ground is not present, GFCI devices should test properly.



                However, if equipment ground is not present, external GFCI testers there or at downline outlets should not test successfully. Their built-in 3-lamp tester should only display one yellow light. If it displays two but doesn't trip the GFCI, that means a bootleg ground, which makes the GFCI's protection worthless.







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                    I replaced the GFCI while I was waiting for an answer. The new one tests, so I guess it WAS a bad outlet... Also it had a ground wire? So maybe the old maintenance guy was even more clueless than me?






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                      GFCI without ground is safe but won't trip with the usual tester. But having ground is better and it sounds like the previous guy just didn't know how to do that.

                      – manassehkatz
                      8 hours ago











                    • Did you connect the GFCI ground wire to an actual ground??

                      – JACK
                      8 hours ago











                    • Jack I don't know how to identify an "actual" ground... But I attached the green screw (of the new GFCI) to the copper wire (which was already in there).

                      – user105754
                      8 hours ago











                    • You did it right. If you have an outlet tester it will confirm a good ground. Also, a volt meter going from hot to ground showing 120 V +- .

                      – JACK
                      7 hours ago











                    • Is this intended to be an answer to your original question?

                      – brhans
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                      GFCI without ground is safe but won't trip with the usual tester. But having ground is better and it sounds like the previous guy just didn't know how to do that.

                      – manassehkatz
                      8 hours ago











                    • Did you connect the GFCI ground wire to an actual ground??

                      – JACK
                      8 hours ago











                    • Jack I don't know how to identify an "actual" ground... But I attached the green screw (of the new GFCI) to the copper wire (which was already in there).

                      – user105754
                      8 hours ago











                    • You did it right. If you have an outlet tester it will confirm a good ground. Also, a volt meter going from hot to ground showing 120 V +- .

                      – JACK
                      7 hours ago











                    • Is this intended to be an answer to your original question?

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                    • 1





                      GFCI without ground is safe but won't trip with the usual tester. But having ground is better and it sounds like the previous guy just didn't know how to do that.

                      – manassehkatz
                      8 hours ago











                    • Did you connect the GFCI ground wire to an actual ground??

                      – JACK
                      8 hours ago











                    • Jack I don't know how to identify an "actual" ground... But I attached the green screw (of the new GFCI) to the copper wire (which was already in there).

                      – user105754
                      8 hours ago











                    • You did it right. If you have an outlet tester it will confirm a good ground. Also, a volt meter going from hot to ground showing 120 V +- .

                      – JACK
                      7 hours ago











                    • Is this intended to be an answer to your original question?

                      – brhans
                      4 mins ago












                    • 1





                      GFCI without ground is safe but won't trip with the usual tester. But having ground is better and it sounds like the previous guy just didn't know how to do that.

                      – manassehkatz
                      8 hours ago











                    • Did you connect the GFCI ground wire to an actual ground??

                      – JACK
                      8 hours ago











                    • Jack I don't know how to identify an "actual" ground... But I attached the green screw (of the new GFCI) to the copper wire (which was already in there).

                      – user105754
                      8 hours ago











                    • You did it right. If you have an outlet tester it will confirm a good ground. Also, a volt meter going from hot to ground showing 120 V +- .

                      – JACK
                      7 hours ago











                    • Is this intended to be an answer to your original question?

                      – brhans
                      4 mins ago







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                    GFCI without ground is safe but won't trip with the usual tester. But having ground is better and it sounds like the previous guy just didn't know how to do that.

                    – manassehkatz
                    8 hours ago





                    GFCI without ground is safe but won't trip with the usual tester. But having ground is better and it sounds like the previous guy just didn't know how to do that.

                    – manassehkatz
                    8 hours ago













                    Did you connect the GFCI ground wire to an actual ground??

                    – JACK
                    8 hours ago





                    Did you connect the GFCI ground wire to an actual ground??

                    – JACK
                    8 hours ago













                    Jack I don't know how to identify an "actual" ground... But I attached the green screw (of the new GFCI) to the copper wire (which was already in there).

                    – user105754
                    8 hours ago





                    Jack I don't know how to identify an "actual" ground... But I attached the green screw (of the new GFCI) to the copper wire (which was already in there).

                    – user105754
                    8 hours ago













                    You did it right. If you have an outlet tester it will confirm a good ground. Also, a volt meter going from hot to ground showing 120 V +- .

                    – JACK
                    7 hours ago





                    You did it right. If you have an outlet tester it will confirm a good ground. Also, a volt meter going from hot to ground showing 120 V +- .

                    – JACK
                    7 hours ago













                    Is this intended to be an answer to your original question?

                    – brhans
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