Do I add modifiers to the Charisma check roll of 15 granted by the Glibness spell?How Does Rogue's Reliable Talent Work?What are the limits of Glibness concerning Deception?How do I add the Guidance spell to Fantasy Grounds?Do reroll and dice-adding abilities work on critical hits and critical failures?How much does a bard know when they decide to use Cutting Words?How many saves do you roll vs. Zone of Truth?Can a character use a luck point to affect a roll that was replaced by Portent?Is this homebrew Bardic College balanced?Can you use Lucky (feat) followed by Portent to replace a roll that's already been made?Is my adaptation of the Battle Master as a Wizard subclass balanced relative to other Wizard subclasses and to the original Battle Master?Which “anti-lie-detection” features actually affect Zone of Truth?

Appropriate certificate to ask for a fibre installation (ANSI/TIA-568.3-D?)

How to safely wipe a USB flash drive

Should I decline this job offer that requires relocating to an area with high cost of living?

I need a disease

How can I get a job without pushing my family's income into a higher tax bracket?

Causes of bimodal distributions when bootstrapping a meta-analysis model

Will 700 more planes a day fly because of the Heathrow expansion?

Understanding trademark infringements in a world where many dictionary words are trademarks?

Should I dumb down my writing in a foreign country?

My advisor talks about me to his colleague

Word for Food that's Gone 'Bad', but is Still Edible?

Out of scope work duties and resignation

Are pressure-treated posts that have been submerged for a few days ruined?

Floor of Riemann zeta function

A factorization game

Decoupling cap routing on a 4 layer PCB

Can my 2 children 10 and 12 Travel to the USA on expired American Passports? They are US citizens

60s/70s science fiction novel where a man (after years of trying) finally succeeds to make a coin levitate by sheer concentration

What to use instead of cling film to wrap pastry

Where in Bitcoin Core does it do X?

Would glacier 'trees' be plausible?

Can my company stop me from working overtime?

Can a Valor bard Ready a bard spell, then use the Battle Magic feature to make a weapon attack before releasing the spell?

Can there be a single technologically advanced nation, in a continent full of non-technologically advanced nations?



Do I add modifiers to the Charisma check roll of 15 granted by the Glibness spell?


How Does Rogue's Reliable Talent Work?What are the limits of Glibness concerning Deception?How do I add the Guidance spell to Fantasy Grounds?Do reroll and dice-adding abilities work on critical hits and critical failures?How much does a bard know when they decide to use Cutting Words?How many saves do you roll vs. Zone of Truth?Can a character use a luck point to affect a roll that was replaced by Portent?Is this homebrew Bardic College balanced?Can you use Lucky (feat) followed by Portent to replace a roll that's already been made?Is my adaptation of the Battle Master as a Wizard subclass balanced relative to other Wizard subclasses and to the original Battle Master?Which “anti-lie-detection” features actually affect Zone of Truth?






.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;








11












$begingroup$


While affected by the Glibness spell, a creature can replace any Charisma check roll with a 15:




Until the spell ends, when you make a Charisma check, you can replace the number you roll with a 15.




It's not clear to me from this wording whether the 15 replaces the roll before or after adding any modifiers. For example, if my modifier for a Charisma check is +5 and I choose to take the 15 from Glibness, is the resulting Charisma roll a 15 or a 20?










share|improve this question











$endgroup$


















    11












    $begingroup$


    While affected by the Glibness spell, a creature can replace any Charisma check roll with a 15:




    Until the spell ends, when you make a Charisma check, you can replace the number you roll with a 15.




    It's not clear to me from this wording whether the 15 replaces the roll before or after adding any modifiers. For example, if my modifier for a Charisma check is +5 and I choose to take the 15 from Glibness, is the resulting Charisma roll a 15 or a 20?










    share|improve this question











    $endgroup$














      11












      11








      11


      1



      $begingroup$


      While affected by the Glibness spell, a creature can replace any Charisma check roll with a 15:




      Until the spell ends, when you make a Charisma check, you can replace the number you roll with a 15.




      It's not clear to me from this wording whether the 15 replaces the roll before or after adding any modifiers. For example, if my modifier for a Charisma check is +5 and I choose to take the 15 from Glibness, is the resulting Charisma roll a 15 or a 20?










      share|improve this question











      $endgroup$




      While affected by the Glibness spell, a creature can replace any Charisma check roll with a 15:




      Until the spell ends, when you make a Charisma check, you can replace the number you roll with a 15.




      It's not clear to me from this wording whether the 15 replaces the roll before or after adding any modifiers. For example, if my modifier for a Charisma check is +5 and I choose to take the 15 from Glibness, is the resulting Charisma roll a 15 or a 20?







      dnd-5e spells






      share|improve this question















      share|improve this question













      share|improve this question




      share|improve this question








      edited 26 mins ago









      V2Blast

      28.7k5103174




      28.7k5103174










      asked 6 hours ago









      Ryan ThompsonRyan Thompson

      13.4k24599




      13.4k24599




















          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          22












          $begingroup$

          According to the SRD (p.77):




          To make an ability check, roll a d20 and add the relevant ability modifier




          Glibness can replace the Roll with a 15.



          So, with a +5 CHA Bonus, instead of your Ability Check being 1d20 + 5, it can become 15 + 5, the d20 roll having been replaced by "15", if you so choose.



          If you have Proficiency in the Skill you are using (e.g. you are making a CHA (Deception) check, and you have Prof. in Deception), you may also add your Proficiency Bonus.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$








          • 2




            $begingroup$
            Jeremy Crawford also agrees (unofficially).
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            5 hours ago


















          9












          $begingroup$

          "Roll" is not the same as "result"



          The word "roll" literally refers to the roll of a die. Take, for example, the Great Weapon Fighting fighting style:




          Great Weapon Fighting



          When you roll a 1 or 2 on a damage die for an attack you make with a melee weapon that you are wielding with two hands, you can reroll the die and must use the new roll, even if the new roll is a 1 or a 2. The weapon must have the two-handed or versatile property for you to gain this benefit.




          The "roll" refers to the actual number shown on the die.



          The "result" is a different matter. It is the total value after applying all modifiers. Take, for example, the indomitable might class feature of the barbarian:




          Indomitable Might



          Beginning at 18th level, if your total for a Strength check is less
          than your Strength score, you can use that score in place of the
          total.




          For glibness, you can adjust the d20 roll you make to be 15 regardless of what you actually rolled.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













            Your Answer








            StackExchange.ready(function()
            var channelOptions =
            tags: "".split(" "),
            id: "122"
            ;
            initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

            StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
            // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
            if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
            StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
            createEditor();
            );

            else
            createEditor();

            );

            function createEditor()
            StackExchange.prepareEditor(
            heartbeatType: 'answer',
            autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
            convertImagesToLinks: false,
            noModals: true,
            showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
            reputationToPostImages: null,
            bindNavPrevention: true,
            postfix: "",
            imageUploader:
            brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
            contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
            allowUrls: true
            ,
            noCode: true, onDemand: true,
            discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
            ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
            );



            );













            draft saved

            draft discarded


















            StackExchange.ready(
            function ()
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f147339%2fdo-i-add-modifiers-to-the-charisma-check-roll-of-15-granted-by-the-glibness-spel%23new-answer', 'question_page');

            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown

























            2 Answers
            2






            active

            oldest

            votes








            2 Answers
            2






            active

            oldest

            votes









            active

            oldest

            votes






            active

            oldest

            votes









            22












            $begingroup$

            According to the SRD (p.77):




            To make an ability check, roll a d20 and add the relevant ability modifier




            Glibness can replace the Roll with a 15.



            So, with a +5 CHA Bonus, instead of your Ability Check being 1d20 + 5, it can become 15 + 5, the d20 roll having been replaced by "15", if you so choose.



            If you have Proficiency in the Skill you are using (e.g. you are making a CHA (Deception) check, and you have Prof. in Deception), you may also add your Proficiency Bonus.






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$








            • 2




              $begingroup$
              Jeremy Crawford also agrees (unofficially).
              $endgroup$
              – Rubiksmoose
              5 hours ago















            22












            $begingroup$

            According to the SRD (p.77):




            To make an ability check, roll a d20 and add the relevant ability modifier




            Glibness can replace the Roll with a 15.



            So, with a +5 CHA Bonus, instead of your Ability Check being 1d20 + 5, it can become 15 + 5, the d20 roll having been replaced by "15", if you so choose.



            If you have Proficiency in the Skill you are using (e.g. you are making a CHA (Deception) check, and you have Prof. in Deception), you may also add your Proficiency Bonus.






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$








            • 2




              $begingroup$
              Jeremy Crawford also agrees (unofficially).
              $endgroup$
              – Rubiksmoose
              5 hours ago













            22












            22








            22





            $begingroup$

            According to the SRD (p.77):




            To make an ability check, roll a d20 and add the relevant ability modifier




            Glibness can replace the Roll with a 15.



            So, with a +5 CHA Bonus, instead of your Ability Check being 1d20 + 5, it can become 15 + 5, the d20 roll having been replaced by "15", if you so choose.



            If you have Proficiency in the Skill you are using (e.g. you are making a CHA (Deception) check, and you have Prof. in Deception), you may also add your Proficiency Bonus.






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$



            According to the SRD (p.77):




            To make an ability check, roll a d20 and add the relevant ability modifier




            Glibness can replace the Roll with a 15.



            So, with a +5 CHA Bonus, instead of your Ability Check being 1d20 + 5, it can become 15 + 5, the d20 roll having been replaced by "15", if you so choose.



            If you have Proficiency in the Skill you are using (e.g. you are making a CHA (Deception) check, and you have Prof. in Deception), you may also add your Proficiency Bonus.







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited 5 hours ago

























            answered 6 hours ago









            Black SpikeBlack Spike

            37116




            37116







            • 2




              $begingroup$
              Jeremy Crawford also agrees (unofficially).
              $endgroup$
              – Rubiksmoose
              5 hours ago












            • 2




              $begingroup$
              Jeremy Crawford also agrees (unofficially).
              $endgroup$
              – Rubiksmoose
              5 hours ago







            2




            2




            $begingroup$
            Jeremy Crawford also agrees (unofficially).
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            5 hours ago




            $begingroup$
            Jeremy Crawford also agrees (unofficially).
            $endgroup$
            – Rubiksmoose
            5 hours ago













            9












            $begingroup$

            "Roll" is not the same as "result"



            The word "roll" literally refers to the roll of a die. Take, for example, the Great Weapon Fighting fighting style:




            Great Weapon Fighting



            When you roll a 1 or 2 on a damage die for an attack you make with a melee weapon that you are wielding with two hands, you can reroll the die and must use the new roll, even if the new roll is a 1 or a 2. The weapon must have the two-handed or versatile property for you to gain this benefit.




            The "roll" refers to the actual number shown on the die.



            The "result" is a different matter. It is the total value after applying all modifiers. Take, for example, the indomitable might class feature of the barbarian:




            Indomitable Might



            Beginning at 18th level, if your total for a Strength check is less
            than your Strength score, you can use that score in place of the
            total.




            For glibness, you can adjust the d20 roll you make to be 15 regardless of what you actually rolled.






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$

















              9












              $begingroup$

              "Roll" is not the same as "result"



              The word "roll" literally refers to the roll of a die. Take, for example, the Great Weapon Fighting fighting style:




              Great Weapon Fighting



              When you roll a 1 or 2 on a damage die for an attack you make with a melee weapon that you are wielding with two hands, you can reroll the die and must use the new roll, even if the new roll is a 1 or a 2. The weapon must have the two-handed or versatile property for you to gain this benefit.




              The "roll" refers to the actual number shown on the die.



              The "result" is a different matter. It is the total value after applying all modifiers. Take, for example, the indomitable might class feature of the barbarian:




              Indomitable Might



              Beginning at 18th level, if your total for a Strength check is less
              than your Strength score, you can use that score in place of the
              total.




              For glibness, you can adjust the d20 roll you make to be 15 regardless of what you actually rolled.






              share|improve this answer











              $endgroup$















                9












                9








                9





                $begingroup$

                "Roll" is not the same as "result"



                The word "roll" literally refers to the roll of a die. Take, for example, the Great Weapon Fighting fighting style:




                Great Weapon Fighting



                When you roll a 1 or 2 on a damage die for an attack you make with a melee weapon that you are wielding with two hands, you can reroll the die and must use the new roll, even if the new roll is a 1 or a 2. The weapon must have the two-handed or versatile property for you to gain this benefit.




                The "roll" refers to the actual number shown on the die.



                The "result" is a different matter. It is the total value after applying all modifiers. Take, for example, the indomitable might class feature of the barbarian:




                Indomitable Might



                Beginning at 18th level, if your total for a Strength check is less
                than your Strength score, you can use that score in place of the
                total.




                For glibness, you can adjust the d20 roll you make to be 15 regardless of what you actually rolled.






                share|improve this answer











                $endgroup$



                "Roll" is not the same as "result"



                The word "roll" literally refers to the roll of a die. Take, for example, the Great Weapon Fighting fighting style:




                Great Weapon Fighting



                When you roll a 1 or 2 on a damage die for an attack you make with a melee weapon that you are wielding with two hands, you can reroll the die and must use the new roll, even if the new roll is a 1 or a 2. The weapon must have the two-handed or versatile property for you to gain this benefit.




                The "roll" refers to the actual number shown on the die.



                The "result" is a different matter. It is the total value after applying all modifiers. Take, for example, the indomitable might class feature of the barbarian:




                Indomitable Might



                Beginning at 18th level, if your total for a Strength check is less
                than your Strength score, you can use that score in place of the
                total.




                For glibness, you can adjust the d20 roll you make to be 15 regardless of what you actually rolled.







                share|improve this answer














                share|improve this answer



                share|improve this answer








                edited 27 mins ago









                V2Blast

                28.7k5103174




                28.7k5103174










                answered 5 hours ago









                Allan MillsAllan Mills

                1,60517




                1,60517



























                    draft saved

                    draft discarded
















































                    Thanks for contributing an answer to Role-playing Games Stack Exchange!


                    • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                    But avoid


                    • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                    • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.

                    Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                    To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                    draft saved


                    draft discarded














                    StackExchange.ready(
                    function ()
                    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f147339%2fdo-i-add-modifiers-to-the-charisma-check-roll-of-15-granted-by-the-glibness-spel%23new-answer', 'question_page');

                    );

                    Post as a guest















                    Required, but never shown





















































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown

































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown







                    Popular posts from this blog

                    19. јануар Садржај Догађаји Рођења Смрти Празници и дани сећања Види још Референце Мени за навигацијуу

                    Israel Cuprins Etimologie | Istorie | Geografie | Politică | Demografie | Educație | Economie | Cultură | Note explicative | Note bibliografice | Bibliografie | Legături externe | Meniu de navigaresite web oficialfacebooktweeterGoogle+Instagramcanal YouTubeInstagramtextmodificaremodificarewww.technion.ac.ilnew.huji.ac.ilwww.weizmann.ac.ilwww1.biu.ac.ilenglish.tau.ac.ilwww.haifa.ac.ilin.bgu.ac.ilwww.openu.ac.ilwww.ariel.ac.ilCIA FactbookHarta Israelului"Negotiating Jerusalem," Palestine–Israel JournalThe Schizoid Nature of Modern Hebrew: A Slavic Language in Search of a Semitic Past„Arabic in Israel: an official language and a cultural bridge”„Latest Population Statistics for Israel”„Israel Population”„Tables”„Report for Selected Countries and Subjects”Human Development Report 2016: Human Development for Everyone„Distribution of family income - Gini index”The World FactbookJerusalem Law„Israel”„Israel”„Zionist Leaders: David Ben-Gurion 1886–1973”„The status of Jerusalem”„Analysis: Kadima's big plans”„Israel's Hard-Learned Lessons”„The Legacy of Undefined Borders, Tel Aviv Notes No. 40, 5 iunie 2002”„Israel Journal: A Land Without Borders”„Population”„Israel closes decade with population of 7.5 million”Time Series-DataBank„Selected Statistics on Jerusalem Day 2007 (Hebrew)”Golan belongs to Syria, Druze protestGlobal Survey 2006: Middle East Progress Amid Global Gains in FreedomWHO: Life expectancy in Israel among highest in the worldInternational Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook Database, April 2011: Nominal GDP list of countries. Data for the year 2010.„Israel's accession to the OECD”Popular Opinion„On the Move”Hosea 12:5„Walking the Bible Timeline”„Palestine: History”„Return to Zion”An invention called 'the Jewish people' – Haaretz – Israel NewsoriginalJewish and Non-Jewish Population of Palestine-Israel (1517–2004)ImmigrationJewishvirtuallibrary.orgChapter One: The Heralders of Zionism„The birth of modern Israel: A scrap of paper that changed history”„League of Nations: The Mandate for Palestine, 24 iulie 1922”The Population of Palestine Prior to 1948originalBackground Paper No. 47 (ST/DPI/SER.A/47)History: Foreign DominationTwo Hundred and Seventh Plenary Meeting„Israel (Labor Zionism)”Population, by Religion and Population GroupThe Suez CrisisAdolf EichmannJustice Ministry Reply to Amnesty International Report„The Interregnum”Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs – The Palestinian National Covenant- July 1968Research on terrorism: trends, achievements & failuresThe Routledge Atlas of the Arab–Israeli conflict: The Complete History of the Struggle and the Efforts to Resolve It"George Habash, Palestinian Terrorism Tactician, Dies at 82."„1973: Arab states attack Israeli forces”Agranat Commission„Has Israel Annexed East Jerusalem?”original„After 4 Years, Intifada Still Smolders”From the End of the Cold War to 2001originalThe Oslo Accords, 1993Israel-PLO Recognition – Exchange of Letters between PM Rabin and Chairman Arafat – Sept 9- 1993Foundation for Middle East PeaceSources of Population Growth: Total Israeli Population and Settler Population, 1991–2003original„Israel marks Rabin assassination”The Wye River Memorandumoriginal„West Bank barrier route disputed, Israeli missile kills 2”"Permanent Ceasefire to Be Based on Creation Of Buffer Zone Free of Armed Personnel Other than UN, Lebanese Forces"„Hezbollah kills 8 soldiers, kidnaps two in offensive on northern border”„Olmert confirms peace talks with Syria”„Battleground Gaza: Israeli ground forces invade the strip”„IDF begins Gaza troop withdrawal, hours after ending 3-week offensive”„THE LAND: Geography and Climate”„Area of districts, sub-districts, natural regions and lakes”„Israel - Geography”„Makhteshim Country”Israel and the Palestinian Territories„Makhtesh Ramon”„The Living Dead Sea”„Temperatures reach record high in Pakistan”„Climate Extremes In Israel”Israel in figures„Deuteronom”„JNF: 240 million trees planted since 1901”„Vegetation of Israel and Neighboring Countries”Environmental Law in Israel„Executive branch”„Israel's election process explained”„The Electoral System in Israel”„Constitution for Israel”„All 120 incoming Knesset members”„Statul ISRAEL”„The Judiciary: The Court System”„Israel's high court unique in region”„Israel and the International Criminal Court: A Legal Battlefield”„Localities and population, by population group, district, sub-district and natural region”„Israel: Districts, Major Cities, Urban Localities & Metropolitan Areas”„Israel-Egypt Relations: Background & Overview of Peace Treaty”„Solana to Haaretz: New Rules of War Needed for Age of Terror”„Israel's Announcement Regarding Settlements”„United Nations Security Council Resolution 497”„Security Council resolution 478 (1980) on the status of Jerusalem”„Arabs will ask U.N. to seek razing of Israeli wall”„Olmert: Willing to trade land for peace”„Mapping Peace between Syria and Israel”„Egypt: Israel must accept the land-for-peace formula”„Israel: Age structure from 2005 to 2015”„Global, regional, and national disability-adjusted life years (DALYs) for 306 diseases and injuries and healthy life expectancy (HALE) for 188 countries, 1990–2013: quantifying the epidemiological transition”10.1016/S0140-6736(15)61340-X„World Health Statistics 2014”„Life expectancy for Israeli men world's 4th highest”„Family Structure and Well-Being Across Israel's Diverse Population”„Fertility among Jewish and Muslim Women in Israel, by Level of Religiosity, 1979-2009”„Israel leaders in birth rate, but poverty major challenge”„Ethnic Groups”„Israel's population: Over 8.5 million”„Israel - Ethnic groups”„Jews, by country of origin and age”„Minority Communities in Israel: Background & Overview”„Israel”„Language in Israel”„Selected Data from the 2011 Social Survey on Mastery of the Hebrew Language and Usage of Languages”„Religions”„5 facts about Israeli Druze, a unique religious and ethnic group”„Israël”Israel Country Study Guide„Haredi city in Negev – blessing or curse?”„New town Harish harbors hopes of being more than another Pleasantville”„List of localities, in alphabetical order”„Muncitorii români, doriți în Israel”„Prietenia româno-israeliană la nevoie se cunoaște”„The Higher Education System in Israel”„Middle East”„Academic Ranking of World Universities 2016”„Israel”„Israel”„Jewish Nobel Prize Winners”„All Nobel Prizes in Literature”„All Nobel Peace Prizes”„All Prizes in Economic Sciences”„All Nobel Prizes in Chemistry”„List of Fields Medallists”„Sakharov Prize”„Țara care și-a sfidat "destinul" și se bate umăr la umăr cu Silicon Valley”„Apple's R&D center in Israel grew to about 800 employees”„Tim Cook: Apple's Herzliya R&D center second-largest in world”„Lecții de economie de la Israel”„Land use”Israel Investment and Business GuideA Country Study: IsraelCentral Bureau of StatisticsFlorin Diaconu, „Kadima: Flexibilitate și pragmatism, dar nici un compromis în chestiuni vitale", în Revista Institutului Diplomatic Român, anul I, numărul I, semestrul I, 2006, pp. 71-72Florin Diaconu, „Likud: Dreapta israeliană constant opusă retrocedării teritoriilor cureite prin luptă în 1967", în Revista Institutului Diplomatic Român, anul I, numărul I, semestrul I, 2006, pp. 73-74MassadaIsraelul a crescut in 50 de ani cât alte state intr-un mileniuIsrael Government PortalIsraelIsraelIsraelmmmmmXX451232cb118646298(data)4027808-634110000 0004 0372 0767n7900328503691455-bb46-37e3-91d2-cb064a35ffcc1003570400564274ge1294033523775214929302638955X146498911146498911

                    Кастелфранко ди Сопра Становништво Референце Спољашње везе Мени за навигацију43°37′18″ СГШ; 11°33′32″ ИГД / 43.62156° СГШ; 11.55885° ИГД / 43.62156; 11.5588543°37′18″ СГШ; 11°33′32″ ИГД / 43.62156° СГШ; 11.55885° ИГД / 43.62156; 11.558853179688„The GeoNames geographical database”„Istituto Nazionale di Statistica”проширитиууWorldCat156923403n850174324558639-1cb14643287r(подаци)