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10















Take the following code



#include <iostream>

void func()
int i = 2147483640;
while (i < i + 1)

std::cerr << i << 'n';
++i;


return;


int main()
func();



This code is clearly wrong, as the while loop can only terminate if the signed int i overflowed, which is UB, and hence the compiler may for instance optimize this into an infinite loop (which Clang does on -O3), or do other sorts of funky things. My question now is: from my reading of the C++ standard, types that are equivalent up to signedness may alias (i.e. pointers int* and unsigned* may alias). In order to do some funky signed "wrapping", does the following have undefined behavior or not?



#include <iostream>

static int safe_inc(int a)

++reinterpret_cast<unsigned&>(a);
return a;


void func()
int i = 2147483640;
while (i < safe_inc(i))

std::cerr << i << 'n';
++i;


return;


int main()
func();



I have tried the above code with both Clang 8 and GCC 9 on -O3 with -Wall -Wextra -Wpedantic -O3 -fsanitize=address,undefined arguments and get no errors or warnings and the loop terminates after wrapping to INT_MIN.



cppreference.com tells me that




Type aliasing



Whenever an attempt is made to read or modify the stored value of an object of type DynamicType through a glvalue of type AliasedType, the behavior is undefined unless one of the following is true:



  • AliasedType is the (possibly cv-qualified) signed or unsigned variant of DynamicType.



which from my reading means that for purposes of type aliasing, signedness is not considered, and the code using reinterpret_cast has well-defined semantics (albeit being somewhat cheesy anyhow).










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  • Since you reinterpret the signed int as an unsigned value, the code is as correct as if you used unsigned value from the beginning (and casting the cerr output to signed).

    – xryl669
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    @LightnessRacesinOrbit: [basic.lval]/11 lays down the validity of this access. What is missing is what the behavior is of modifying an unsigned/signed object through a reference to its signed/unsigned version of it. But I don't see a statement forbidding it.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @SergeyA: Then point to the line in the specification that says what actually happens when you write to a signed object via a reference to an unsigned one. Because I can point to lines in the specification that says what happens when you, for example, call a member function of a derived class through a base class pointer/reference. But no such similar statements exist for signed/unsigned. The conversion is legit; the access is legit, but what happens is simply not stated by the spec.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    Indeed. This kind of thing has always been underspecified for my liking. It's one of the few areas of the standard that seems to assume close-to-the-metal bit logic in places

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @SergeyA: "Could it be underspecified?" Yes, this is a defect in the spec. And with the two's complement change in C++20, it can be resolved in a completely well-defined way. There just has to be wording somewhere to do it.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago

















10















Take the following code



#include <iostream>

void func()
int i = 2147483640;
while (i < i + 1)

std::cerr << i << 'n';
++i;


return;


int main()
func();



This code is clearly wrong, as the while loop can only terminate if the signed int i overflowed, which is UB, and hence the compiler may for instance optimize this into an infinite loop (which Clang does on -O3), or do other sorts of funky things. My question now is: from my reading of the C++ standard, types that are equivalent up to signedness may alias (i.e. pointers int* and unsigned* may alias). In order to do some funky signed "wrapping", does the following have undefined behavior or not?



#include <iostream>

static int safe_inc(int a)

++reinterpret_cast<unsigned&>(a);
return a;


void func()
int i = 2147483640;
while (i < safe_inc(i))

std::cerr << i << 'n';
++i;


return;


int main()
func();



I have tried the above code with both Clang 8 and GCC 9 on -O3 with -Wall -Wextra -Wpedantic -O3 -fsanitize=address,undefined arguments and get no errors or warnings and the loop terminates after wrapping to INT_MIN.



cppreference.com tells me that




Type aliasing



Whenever an attempt is made to read or modify the stored value of an object of type DynamicType through a glvalue of type AliasedType, the behavior is undefined unless one of the following is true:



  • AliasedType is the (possibly cv-qualified) signed or unsigned variant of DynamicType.



which from my reading means that for purposes of type aliasing, signedness is not considered, and the code using reinterpret_cast has well-defined semantics (albeit being somewhat cheesy anyhow).










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  • Since you reinterpret the signed int as an unsigned value, the code is as correct as if you used unsigned value from the beginning (and casting the cerr output to signed).

    – xryl669
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    @LightnessRacesinOrbit: [basic.lval]/11 lays down the validity of this access. What is missing is what the behavior is of modifying an unsigned/signed object through a reference to its signed/unsigned version of it. But I don't see a statement forbidding it.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @SergeyA: Then point to the line in the specification that says what actually happens when you write to a signed object via a reference to an unsigned one. Because I can point to lines in the specification that says what happens when you, for example, call a member function of a derived class through a base class pointer/reference. But no such similar statements exist for signed/unsigned. The conversion is legit; the access is legit, but what happens is simply not stated by the spec.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    Indeed. This kind of thing has always been underspecified for my liking. It's one of the few areas of the standard that seems to assume close-to-the-metal bit logic in places

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @SergeyA: "Could it be underspecified?" Yes, this is a defect in the spec. And with the two's complement change in C++20, it can be resolved in a completely well-defined way. There just has to be wording somewhere to do it.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago













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1






Take the following code



#include <iostream>

void func()
int i = 2147483640;
while (i < i + 1)

std::cerr << i << 'n';
++i;


return;


int main()
func();



This code is clearly wrong, as the while loop can only terminate if the signed int i overflowed, which is UB, and hence the compiler may for instance optimize this into an infinite loop (which Clang does on -O3), or do other sorts of funky things. My question now is: from my reading of the C++ standard, types that are equivalent up to signedness may alias (i.e. pointers int* and unsigned* may alias). In order to do some funky signed "wrapping", does the following have undefined behavior or not?



#include <iostream>

static int safe_inc(int a)

++reinterpret_cast<unsigned&>(a);
return a;


void func()
int i = 2147483640;
while (i < safe_inc(i))

std::cerr << i << 'n';
++i;


return;


int main()
func();



I have tried the above code with both Clang 8 and GCC 9 on -O3 with -Wall -Wextra -Wpedantic -O3 -fsanitize=address,undefined arguments and get no errors or warnings and the loop terminates after wrapping to INT_MIN.



cppreference.com tells me that




Type aliasing



Whenever an attempt is made to read or modify the stored value of an object of type DynamicType through a glvalue of type AliasedType, the behavior is undefined unless one of the following is true:



  • AliasedType is the (possibly cv-qualified) signed or unsigned variant of DynamicType.



which from my reading means that for purposes of type aliasing, signedness is not considered, and the code using reinterpret_cast has well-defined semantics (albeit being somewhat cheesy anyhow).










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Take the following code



#include <iostream>

void func()
int i = 2147483640;
while (i < i + 1)

std::cerr << i << 'n';
++i;


return;


int main()
func();



This code is clearly wrong, as the while loop can only terminate if the signed int i overflowed, which is UB, and hence the compiler may for instance optimize this into an infinite loop (which Clang does on -O3), or do other sorts of funky things. My question now is: from my reading of the C++ standard, types that are equivalent up to signedness may alias (i.e. pointers int* and unsigned* may alias). In order to do some funky signed "wrapping", does the following have undefined behavior or not?



#include <iostream>

static int safe_inc(int a)

++reinterpret_cast<unsigned&>(a);
return a;


void func()
int i = 2147483640;
while (i < safe_inc(i))

std::cerr << i << 'n';
++i;


return;


int main()
func();



I have tried the above code with both Clang 8 and GCC 9 on -O3 with -Wall -Wextra -Wpedantic -O3 -fsanitize=address,undefined arguments and get no errors or warnings and the loop terminates after wrapping to INT_MIN.



cppreference.com tells me that




Type aliasing



Whenever an attempt is made to read or modify the stored value of an object of type DynamicType through a glvalue of type AliasedType, the behavior is undefined unless one of the following is true:



  • AliasedType is the (possibly cv-qualified) signed or unsigned variant of DynamicType.



which from my reading means that for purposes of type aliasing, signedness is not considered, and the code using reinterpret_cast has well-defined semantics (albeit being somewhat cheesy anyhow).







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  • Since you reinterpret the signed int as an unsigned value, the code is as correct as if you used unsigned value from the beginning (and casting the cerr output to signed).

    – xryl669
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    @LightnessRacesinOrbit: [basic.lval]/11 lays down the validity of this access. What is missing is what the behavior is of modifying an unsigned/signed object through a reference to its signed/unsigned version of it. But I don't see a statement forbidding it.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @SergeyA: Then point to the line in the specification that says what actually happens when you write to a signed object via a reference to an unsigned one. Because I can point to lines in the specification that says what happens when you, for example, call a member function of a derived class through a base class pointer/reference. But no such similar statements exist for signed/unsigned. The conversion is legit; the access is legit, but what happens is simply not stated by the spec.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    Indeed. This kind of thing has always been underspecified for my liking. It's one of the few areas of the standard that seems to assume close-to-the-metal bit logic in places

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @SergeyA: "Could it be underspecified?" Yes, this is a defect in the spec. And with the two's complement change in C++20, it can be resolved in a completely well-defined way. There just has to be wording somewhere to do it.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago

















  • Since you reinterpret the signed int as an unsigned value, the code is as correct as if you used unsigned value from the beginning (and casting the cerr output to signed).

    – xryl669
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    @LightnessRacesinOrbit: [basic.lval]/11 lays down the validity of this access. What is missing is what the behavior is of modifying an unsigned/signed object through a reference to its signed/unsigned version of it. But I don't see a statement forbidding it.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @SergeyA: Then point to the line in the specification that says what actually happens when you write to a signed object via a reference to an unsigned one. Because I can point to lines in the specification that says what happens when you, for example, call a member function of a derived class through a base class pointer/reference. But no such similar statements exist for signed/unsigned. The conversion is legit; the access is legit, but what happens is simply not stated by the spec.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    Indeed. This kind of thing has always been underspecified for my liking. It's one of the few areas of the standard that seems to assume close-to-the-metal bit logic in places

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @SergeyA: "Could it be underspecified?" Yes, this is a defect in the spec. And with the two's complement change in C++20, it can be resolved in a completely well-defined way. There just has to be wording somewhere to do it.

    – Nicol Bolas
    8 hours ago
















Since you reinterpret the signed int as an unsigned value, the code is as correct as if you used unsigned value from the beginning (and casting the cerr output to signed).

– xryl669
8 hours ago





Since you reinterpret the signed int as an unsigned value, the code is as correct as if you used unsigned value from the beginning (and casting the cerr output to signed).

– xryl669
8 hours ago




3




3





@LightnessRacesinOrbit: [basic.lval]/11 lays down the validity of this access. What is missing is what the behavior is of modifying an unsigned/signed object through a reference to its signed/unsigned version of it. But I don't see a statement forbidding it.

– Nicol Bolas
8 hours ago






@LightnessRacesinOrbit: [basic.lval]/11 lays down the validity of this access. What is missing is what the behavior is of modifying an unsigned/signed object through a reference to its signed/unsigned version of it. But I don't see a statement forbidding it.

– Nicol Bolas
8 hours ago





2




2





@SergeyA: Then point to the line in the specification that says what actually happens when you write to a signed object via a reference to an unsigned one. Because I can point to lines in the specification that says what happens when you, for example, call a member function of a derived class through a base class pointer/reference. But no such similar statements exist for signed/unsigned. The conversion is legit; the access is legit, but what happens is simply not stated by the spec.

– Nicol Bolas
8 hours ago






@SergeyA: Then point to the line in the specification that says what actually happens when you write to a signed object via a reference to an unsigned one. Because I can point to lines in the specification that says what happens when you, for example, call a member function of a derived class through a base class pointer/reference. But no such similar statements exist for signed/unsigned. The conversion is legit; the access is legit, but what happens is simply not stated by the spec.

– Nicol Bolas
8 hours ago





2




2





Indeed. This kind of thing has always been underspecified for my liking. It's one of the few areas of the standard that seems to assume close-to-the-metal bit logic in places

– Lightness Races in Orbit
8 hours ago





Indeed. This kind of thing has always been underspecified for my liking. It's one of the few areas of the standard that seems to assume close-to-the-metal bit logic in places

– Lightness Races in Orbit
8 hours ago




2




2





@SergeyA: "Could it be underspecified?" Yes, this is a defect in the spec. And with the two's complement change in C++20, it can be resolved in a completely well-defined way. There just has to be wording somewhere to do it.

– Nicol Bolas
8 hours ago





@SergeyA: "Could it be underspecified?" Yes, this is a defect in the spec. And with the two's complement change in C++20, it can be resolved in a completely well-defined way. There just has to be wording somewhere to do it.

– Nicol Bolas
8 hours ago












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Aliasing here is perfectly legal. See http://eel.is/c++draft/expr.prop#basic.lval-11.2:




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through
a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the
following types the behavior is undefined:53



(11.1) the dynamic type of the object,



(11.2) a type that is the signed or unsigned type
corresponding to the dynamic type of the object




I think, it is also worth talking about the actual overflow question, which does not necessarily require reinterpret_cast. The very same effect could be achieved with implicit integral conversions



 unsigned x = i;
++x;
i = x; // this would serve you just fine.


This code would be implementation defined pre-C++20, since you would be converting from the value which can't be represented by destination type.



Since C++20 this code will be well-formed.



See https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/implicit_conversion



On a side note, you might as well start with unsigned type if you want integer overflow semantic.






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  • i wonder if one cannot do the same without the reinterpret_cast via unsigned x = a; ++x; return x;. Would that not have the same effect, but valid already pre c++20?

    – formerlyknownas_463035818
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    This doesn't answer the question about aliasing though does it

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @JonasMüller is your question about incrementing or aliasing?

    – SergeyA
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @formerlyknownas_463035818 if a is INT_MAX then x would not fit back into a making it implementation defined behavior.

    – NathanOliver
    8 hours ago







  • 1





    I agree, there's a second implicit question in here (which concerns the overflow part), but the primary question is whether the use of reinterpret_cast is valid here.

    – Jonas Müller
    8 hours ago


















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Your code is perfectly legal, cpp reference is a very good source. You can find the same information in the standard [basic.lval]/11




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the following types the behavior is undefined:



  • the dynamic type of the object,


  • a type that is the signed or unsigned type corresponding to the dynamic type of the object,[...]







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  • Hmm what does "corresponding to" mean here? Certainly this is not the same wording Cubbi chose on cppreference ("variant of")

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago







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    @LightnessRacesinOrbit eel.is/c++draft/basic.fundamental#2. Cpp reference prefers plain English, the aim is certainly to be easier to read than the standard.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago












  • Okay, thanks, that's concrete. :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago











  • For completeness, your code behavior is more specified according to the c++20 standard: eel.is/c++draft/basic.types#basic.fundamental-3. Nevertheless this added paragraph is just a recognition of a fact and you can safely assume your code is portable.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago











  • Well it's not my code :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    7 hours ago











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Aliasing here is perfectly legal. See http://eel.is/c++draft/expr.prop#basic.lval-11.2:




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through
a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the
following types the behavior is undefined:53



(11.1) the dynamic type of the object,



(11.2) a type that is the signed or unsigned type
corresponding to the dynamic type of the object




I think, it is also worth talking about the actual overflow question, which does not necessarily require reinterpret_cast. The very same effect could be achieved with implicit integral conversions



 unsigned x = i;
++x;
i = x; // this would serve you just fine.


This code would be implementation defined pre-C++20, since you would be converting from the value which can't be represented by destination type.



Since C++20 this code will be well-formed.



See https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/implicit_conversion



On a side note, you might as well start with unsigned type if you want integer overflow semantic.






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  • i wonder if one cannot do the same without the reinterpret_cast via unsigned x = a; ++x; return x;. Would that not have the same effect, but valid already pre c++20?

    – formerlyknownas_463035818
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    This doesn't answer the question about aliasing though does it

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @JonasMüller is your question about incrementing or aliasing?

    – SergeyA
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @formerlyknownas_463035818 if a is INT_MAX then x would not fit back into a making it implementation defined behavior.

    – NathanOliver
    8 hours ago







  • 1





    I agree, there's a second implicit question in here (which concerns the overflow part), but the primary question is whether the use of reinterpret_cast is valid here.

    – Jonas Müller
    8 hours ago















6














Aliasing here is perfectly legal. See http://eel.is/c++draft/expr.prop#basic.lval-11.2:




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through
a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the
following types the behavior is undefined:53



(11.1) the dynamic type of the object,



(11.2) a type that is the signed or unsigned type
corresponding to the dynamic type of the object




I think, it is also worth talking about the actual overflow question, which does not necessarily require reinterpret_cast. The very same effect could be achieved with implicit integral conversions



 unsigned x = i;
++x;
i = x; // this would serve you just fine.


This code would be implementation defined pre-C++20, since you would be converting from the value which can't be represented by destination type.



Since C++20 this code will be well-formed.



See https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/implicit_conversion



On a side note, you might as well start with unsigned type if you want integer overflow semantic.






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  • i wonder if one cannot do the same without the reinterpret_cast via unsigned x = a; ++x; return x;. Would that not have the same effect, but valid already pre c++20?

    – formerlyknownas_463035818
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    This doesn't answer the question about aliasing though does it

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @JonasMüller is your question about incrementing or aliasing?

    – SergeyA
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @formerlyknownas_463035818 if a is INT_MAX then x would not fit back into a making it implementation defined behavior.

    – NathanOliver
    8 hours ago







  • 1





    I agree, there's a second implicit question in here (which concerns the overflow part), but the primary question is whether the use of reinterpret_cast is valid here.

    – Jonas Müller
    8 hours ago













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Aliasing here is perfectly legal. See http://eel.is/c++draft/expr.prop#basic.lval-11.2:




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through
a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the
following types the behavior is undefined:53



(11.1) the dynamic type of the object,



(11.2) a type that is the signed or unsigned type
corresponding to the dynamic type of the object




I think, it is also worth talking about the actual overflow question, which does not necessarily require reinterpret_cast. The very same effect could be achieved with implicit integral conversions



 unsigned x = i;
++x;
i = x; // this would serve you just fine.


This code would be implementation defined pre-C++20, since you would be converting from the value which can't be represented by destination type.



Since C++20 this code will be well-formed.



See https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/implicit_conversion



On a side note, you might as well start with unsigned type if you want integer overflow semantic.






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Aliasing here is perfectly legal. See http://eel.is/c++draft/expr.prop#basic.lval-11.2:




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through
a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the
following types the behavior is undefined:53



(11.1) the dynamic type of the object,



(11.2) a type that is the signed or unsigned type
corresponding to the dynamic type of the object




I think, it is also worth talking about the actual overflow question, which does not necessarily require reinterpret_cast. The very same effect could be achieved with implicit integral conversions



 unsigned x = i;
++x;
i = x; // this would serve you just fine.


This code would be implementation defined pre-C++20, since you would be converting from the value which can't be represented by destination type.



Since C++20 this code will be well-formed.



See https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/implicit_conversion



On a side note, you might as well start with unsigned type if you want integer overflow semantic.







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  • i wonder if one cannot do the same without the reinterpret_cast via unsigned x = a; ++x; return x;. Would that not have the same effect, but valid already pre c++20?

    – formerlyknownas_463035818
    8 hours ago






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    This doesn't answer the question about aliasing though does it

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @JonasMüller is your question about incrementing or aliasing?

    – SergeyA
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @formerlyknownas_463035818 if a is INT_MAX then x would not fit back into a making it implementation defined behavior.

    – NathanOliver
    8 hours ago







  • 1





    I agree, there's a second implicit question in here (which concerns the overflow part), but the primary question is whether the use of reinterpret_cast is valid here.

    – Jonas Müller
    8 hours ago

















  • i wonder if one cannot do the same without the reinterpret_cast via unsigned x = a; ++x; return x;. Would that not have the same effect, but valid already pre c++20?

    – formerlyknownas_463035818
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    This doesn't answer the question about aliasing though does it

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @JonasMüller is your question about incrementing or aliasing?

    – SergeyA
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @formerlyknownas_463035818 if a is INT_MAX then x would not fit back into a making it implementation defined behavior.

    – NathanOliver
    8 hours ago







  • 1





    I agree, there's a second implicit question in here (which concerns the overflow part), but the primary question is whether the use of reinterpret_cast is valid here.

    – Jonas Müller
    8 hours ago
















i wonder if one cannot do the same without the reinterpret_cast via unsigned x = a; ++x; return x;. Would that not have the same effect, but valid already pre c++20?

– formerlyknownas_463035818
8 hours ago





i wonder if one cannot do the same without the reinterpret_cast via unsigned x = a; ++x; return x;. Would that not have the same effect, but valid already pre c++20?

– formerlyknownas_463035818
8 hours ago




3




3





This doesn't answer the question about aliasing though does it

– Lightness Races in Orbit
8 hours ago





This doesn't answer the question about aliasing though does it

– Lightness Races in Orbit
8 hours ago




1




1





@JonasMüller is your question about incrementing or aliasing?

– SergeyA
8 hours ago





@JonasMüller is your question about incrementing or aliasing?

– SergeyA
8 hours ago




1




1





@formerlyknownas_463035818 if a is INT_MAX then x would not fit back into a making it implementation defined behavior.

– NathanOliver
8 hours ago






@formerlyknownas_463035818 if a is INT_MAX then x would not fit back into a making it implementation defined behavior.

– NathanOliver
8 hours ago





1




1





I agree, there's a second implicit question in here (which concerns the overflow part), but the primary question is whether the use of reinterpret_cast is valid here.

– Jonas Müller
8 hours ago





I agree, there's a second implicit question in here (which concerns the overflow part), but the primary question is whether the use of reinterpret_cast is valid here.

– Jonas Müller
8 hours ago













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Your code is perfectly legal, cpp reference is a very good source. You can find the same information in the standard [basic.lval]/11




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the following types the behavior is undefined:



  • the dynamic type of the object,


  • a type that is the signed or unsigned type corresponding to the dynamic type of the object,[...]







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  • Hmm what does "corresponding to" mean here? Certainly this is not the same wording Cubbi chose on cppreference ("variant of")

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @LightnessRacesinOrbit eel.is/c++draft/basic.fundamental#2. Cpp reference prefers plain English, the aim is certainly to be easier to read than the standard.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago












  • Okay, thanks, that's concrete. :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago











  • For completeness, your code behavior is more specified according to the c++20 standard: eel.is/c++draft/basic.types#basic.fundamental-3. Nevertheless this added paragraph is just a recognition of a fact and you can safely assume your code is portable.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago











  • Well it's not my code :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    7 hours ago















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Your code is perfectly legal, cpp reference is a very good source. You can find the same information in the standard [basic.lval]/11




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the following types the behavior is undefined:



  • the dynamic type of the object,


  • a type that is the signed or unsigned type corresponding to the dynamic type of the object,[...]







share|improve this answer

























  • Hmm what does "corresponding to" mean here? Certainly this is not the same wording Cubbi chose on cppreference ("variant of")

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @LightnessRacesinOrbit eel.is/c++draft/basic.fundamental#2. Cpp reference prefers plain English, the aim is certainly to be easier to read than the standard.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago












  • Okay, thanks, that's concrete. :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago











  • For completeness, your code behavior is more specified according to the c++20 standard: eel.is/c++draft/basic.types#basic.fundamental-3. Nevertheless this added paragraph is just a recognition of a fact and you can safely assume your code is portable.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago











  • Well it's not my code :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    7 hours ago













5












5








5







Your code is perfectly legal, cpp reference is a very good source. You can find the same information in the standard [basic.lval]/11




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the following types the behavior is undefined:



  • the dynamic type of the object,


  • a type that is the signed or unsigned type corresponding to the dynamic type of the object,[...]







share|improve this answer















Your code is perfectly legal, cpp reference is a very good source. You can find the same information in the standard [basic.lval]/11




If a program attempts to access the stored value of an object through a glvalue whose type is not similar ([conv.qual]) to one of the following types the behavior is undefined:



  • the dynamic type of the object,


  • a type that is the signed or unsigned type corresponding to the dynamic type of the object,[...]








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Lightness Races in Orbit

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answered 8 hours ago









OlivOliv

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  • Hmm what does "corresponding to" mean here? Certainly this is not the same wording Cubbi chose on cppreference ("variant of")

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @LightnessRacesinOrbit eel.is/c++draft/basic.fundamental#2. Cpp reference prefers plain English, the aim is certainly to be easier to read than the standard.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago












  • Okay, thanks, that's concrete. :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago











  • For completeness, your code behavior is more specified according to the c++20 standard: eel.is/c++draft/basic.types#basic.fundamental-3. Nevertheless this added paragraph is just a recognition of a fact and you can safely assume your code is portable.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago











  • Well it's not my code :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    7 hours ago

















  • Hmm what does "corresponding to" mean here? Certainly this is not the same wording Cubbi chose on cppreference ("variant of")

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @LightnessRacesinOrbit eel.is/c++draft/basic.fundamental#2. Cpp reference prefers plain English, the aim is certainly to be easier to read than the standard.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago












  • Okay, thanks, that's concrete. :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    8 hours ago











  • For completeness, your code behavior is more specified according to the c++20 standard: eel.is/c++draft/basic.types#basic.fundamental-3. Nevertheless this added paragraph is just a recognition of a fact and you can safely assume your code is portable.

    – Oliv
    8 hours ago











  • Well it's not my code :)

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    7 hours ago
















Hmm what does "corresponding to" mean here? Certainly this is not the same wording Cubbi chose on cppreference ("variant of")

– Lightness Races in Orbit
8 hours ago






Hmm what does "corresponding to" mean here? Certainly this is not the same wording Cubbi chose on cppreference ("variant of")

– Lightness Races in Orbit
8 hours ago





2




2





@LightnessRacesinOrbit eel.is/c++draft/basic.fundamental#2. Cpp reference prefers plain English, the aim is certainly to be easier to read than the standard.

– Oliv
8 hours ago






@LightnessRacesinOrbit eel.is/c++draft/basic.fundamental#2. Cpp reference prefers plain English, the aim is certainly to be easier to read than the standard.

– Oliv
8 hours ago














Okay, thanks, that's concrete. :)

– Lightness Races in Orbit
8 hours ago





Okay, thanks, that's concrete. :)

– Lightness Races in Orbit
8 hours ago













For completeness, your code behavior is more specified according to the c++20 standard: eel.is/c++draft/basic.types#basic.fundamental-3. Nevertheless this added paragraph is just a recognition of a fact and you can safely assume your code is portable.

– Oliv
8 hours ago





For completeness, your code behavior is more specified according to the c++20 standard: eel.is/c++draft/basic.types#basic.fundamental-3. Nevertheless this added paragraph is just a recognition of a fact and you can safely assume your code is portable.

– Oliv
8 hours ago













Well it's not my code :)

– Lightness Races in Orbit
7 hours ago





Well it's not my code :)

– Lightness Races in Orbit
7 hours ago










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