What is the olden name for sideburns?What is the name for the wall around the landWhat is the name for a simplified street map?What is the most common colloquial name for the lifebuoy?“Up with the… ” (complete the saying for waking up early)What is the name for the thing we search for?Is there a resource for viewing all the languages?What does “ioyning” mean?A word/phrase for an action, which creates an equal and opposite reaction in another personWhat is the meaning of “Apcie”?What's the meaning of 'mean for sport' in a line from the movie, “The Help”?
What's the point of DHS warning passengers about Manila airport?
How fast can a ship with rotating habitats be accelerated?
Confusion about multiple information Sets
How to determine what is the correct level of detail when modelling?
Should I report a leak of confidential HR information?
Why is Bézout's identity considered an identity?
Dold-Kan correspondence in the category of symmetric spectra
One folder two different locations on ubuntu 18.04
Do we or do we not observe (measure) superpositions all the time?
Golf the smallest circle!
How can I convince my reader that I will not use a certain trope?
MH370 blackbox - is it still possible to retrieve data from it?
How to modify the uneven space between separate loop cuts, while they are already cut?
Wilcoxon signed rank test – critical value for n>50
Should I include salary information on my CV?
What does 2>&1 | tee mean?
How exactly is a normal force exerted, at the molecular level?
“Faire” being used to mean “avoir l’air”?
I played my first (rapid) tournament recently and I wanted to calculate my ELO
Generate and graph the Recamán Sequence
Reverse of diffraction
does a number that contains all primes less than it exist?
The difference between Rad1 and Rfd1
How was film developed in the late 1920s?
What is the olden name for sideburns?
What is the name for the wall around the landWhat is the name for a simplified street map?What is the most common colloquial name for the lifebuoy?“Up with the… ” (complete the saying for waking up early)What is the name for the thing we search for?Is there a resource for viewing all the languages?What does “ioyning” mean?A word/phrase for an action, which creates an equal and opposite reaction in another personWhat is the meaning of “Apcie”?What's the meaning of 'mean for sport' in a line from the movie, “The Help”?
.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;
Upon search, I found out that sideburns has evolved from burnsides, named after the Civil War veteran and Rhode Island senator Ambrose Burnside. See here
But surely sideburns existed before him, so what where they called then? Simply beard on cheeks/sides of face?
single-word-requests early-modern-english
asked 9 hours ago
A. KvåleA. Kvåle
1,0421 gold badge5 silver badges21 bronze badges
add a comment |
Upon search, I found out that sideburns has evolved from burnsides, named after the Civil War veteran and Rhode Island senator Ambrose Burnside. See here
But surely sideburns existed before him, so what where they called then? Simply beard on cheeks/sides of face?
single-word-requests early-modern-english
asked 9 hours ago
A. KvåleA. Kvåle
1,0421 gold badge5 silver badges21 bronze badges
The OED's first reference is 1876 - but Burnside is mentioned in the etymology. Previous appellations listed are "side whiskers" and "side hair".
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 As you have access to better sources than I do, could you post an answer; I will certainly up-vote it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Upon search, I found out that sideburns has evolved from burnsides, named after the Civil War veteran and Rhode Island senator Ambrose Burnside. See here
But surely sideburns existed before him, so what where they called then? Simply beard on cheeks/sides of face?
single-word-requests early-modern-english
asked 9 hours ago
A. KvåleA. Kvåle
1,0421 gold badge5 silver badges21 bronze badges
Upon search, I found out that sideburns has evolved from burnsides, named after the Civil War veteran and Rhode Island senator Ambrose Burnside. See here
But surely sideburns existed before him, so what where they called then? Simply beard on cheeks/sides of face?
single-word-requests early-modern-english
single-word-requests early-modern-english
asked 9 hours ago
A. KvåleA. Kvåle
1,0421 gold badge5 silver badges21 bronze badges
asked 9 hours ago
A. KvåleA. Kvåle
1,0421 gold badge5 silver badges21 bronze badges
asked 9 hours ago
A. KvåleA. Kvåle
1,0421 gold badge5 silver badges21 bronze badges
asked 9 hours ago
A. KvåleA. Kvåle
1,0421 gold badge5 silver badges21 bronze badges
asked 9 hours ago
A. KvåleA. Kvåle
1,0421 gold badge5 silver badges21 bronze badges
1,0421 gold badge5 silver badges21 bronze badges
The OED's first reference is 1876 - but Burnside is mentioned in the etymology. Previous appellations listed are "side whiskers" and "side hair".
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 As you have access to better sources than I do, could you post an answer; I will certainly up-vote it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
add a comment |
The OED's first reference is 1876 - but Burnside is mentioned in the etymology. Previous appellations listed are "side whiskers" and "side hair".
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 As you have access to better sources than I do, could you post an answer; I will certainly up-vote it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
The OED's first reference is 1876 - but Burnside is mentioned in the etymology. Previous appellations listed are "side whiskers" and "side hair".
– WS2
7 hours ago
The OED's first reference is 1876 - but Burnside is mentioned in the etymology. Previous appellations listed are "side whiskers" and "side hair".
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 As you have access to better sources than I do, could you post an answer; I will certainly up-vote it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
@WS2 As you have access to better sources than I do, could you post an answer; I will certainly up-vote it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
The style shown in your link was called...
mutton-chop beard
also
mutton-chop whiskers
Mutton chop beards are so named because they resemble a piece of chopped mutton, particular when shaped correctly. They’re characterized by sideburns that are chopped, or cut, along with the lower jawline and extend to the chin.
This only refers to the luxuriant type of facial hair style as pictured in your link. It is still in use today.
The phrase seems to go back to approxiamtely 1845, according to N grams.
However, some probably just referred to them as
whiskers
Notice that in the descriptions in Prints of English Heads, they are listed separately from styles of beards.
…Black Cap, Hair, Whiskers, peaked Beard, Band…
Beards have come and gone in a variety of styles for men, but the "sideburn" was probably only seen after 1800, and then only as part of a beard.
answered 9 hours ago
CascabelCascabel
9,3126 gold badges32 silver badges60 bronze badges
I am still trying to verify this as "whiskers" also appears to refer to mustache.
– Cascabel
8 hours ago
Walker's pronouncing dictionary (1828) says "hair growing on the cheek unshaven; the mustachio." So whiskers seems to have meant non-chin facial hair. (Unless mustachio meant sideburns, which I doubt.)
– Peter Shor
7 hours ago
@PeterShor gotta look it up, but just before we lost service here I was looking at a portrait of King Charles, in which he was described as "having two pencil-line whiskers"...an obvious reference to his mustache. I'm on the point of trashing this post, or radically revamping it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
1
Don't trash it; revise it. Two names for them were side whiskers and mutton-chop whiskers. See Google Ngrams.
– Peter Shor
6 hours ago
@PeterShor I find myself at a loss here; WS2 has obviously said this in comments, but for some reason is not directly including it in his answer...? I do not want to tread on anybody's toes here. I gotta think about this a while
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The OED confirms BURNSIDE as a precursor to sideburns.
‘A style of beard such as that affected by General Burnside (1824–81),
consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ( Cent.
Dict. Suppl. 1909). Frequently plural. Also attributive. Cf. sideburn
n. 1875 Cincinnati Enquirer 6 July 2/1 His whisker was of the
Burnside type, consisting of mustache and ‘muttonchop’, the chin being
perfectly clean.
1881 I. M. Rittenhouse Jrnl. in Maud (1939) i. 36
The older one has lovely burn-sides.
1907 Outing 50 279 Such
various patterns of ornamental whiskers as the ‘Piccadilly Weeper’
(No. 2), the ‘Burnside’, etc.
1930 Publishers' Weekly 8 Feb. 679
In the days of copper-toed boots and burnsides..our grandfathers were
buying this book.
Sideburns
Etymology:
Apparently an alteration of Burnside n., after side-whisker n. at
side n.1 Compounds 3, side hair n. at side n.1 Compounds 1c(b), etc.
orig. U.S.
Thesaurus »
Categories »
A strip of facial hair grown by a man down each side of his face in
front of the ears. Usually in plural. 1876 People (Indianapolis) 8
Apr. 2/4 Norris and Warner want to be fashionable. They are
cultivating side-burns.
1887 Chicago Jrnl. 1 Aug. McGarigle has
his mustache and small sideburns still on.
1936 G. Greene Journey
without Maps ii. iv. 197 He was..handsome in his native robe and his
sideburns.
1985 Times 31 Jan. 13/5 The world will not be won or
lost on the fall of a fringe or the length of a sideburn. 2004 T. C.
Boyle Inner Circle ii. iv. 298 The manager was a very proper-looking
character with swept-back hair, silvered sideburns and the trace of an
Italian accent.
The text in bold above - re "side-whiskers" and "side-hair" answer the question.
answered 6 hours ago
WS2WS2
52.7k29 gold badges118 silver badges254 bronze badges
+1 I keep my commitments...bu t I am still looking for the references to pre-Burnside.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
As quoted in your citation has it as ..." consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin", so it seems like "whiskers" refers to the "sideburns".
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
@Cascabel The answer is "side-whiskers" and/or "side hair". "Whiskers" can refer to any facial hair. My own grandfather's moustache, when I knew him in the 1940s/50s, was referred to, by an older generation as his "whiskers".
– WS2
6 hours ago
Do you mind if I edit this to emphasize "...consisting of a mustache ,whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ?
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "97"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);
else
createEditor();
);
function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader:
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
,
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);
);
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fenglish.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f502698%2fwhat-is-the-olden-name-for-sideburns%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
The style shown in your link was called...
mutton-chop beard
also
mutton-chop whiskers
Mutton chop beards are so named because they resemble a piece of chopped mutton, particular when shaped correctly. They’re characterized by sideburns that are chopped, or cut, along with the lower jawline and extend to the chin.
This only refers to the luxuriant type of facial hair style as pictured in your link. It is still in use today.
The phrase seems to go back to approxiamtely 1845, according to N grams.
However, some probably just referred to them as
whiskers
Notice that in the descriptions in Prints of English Heads, they are listed separately from styles of beards.
…Black Cap, Hair, Whiskers, peaked Beard, Band…
Beards have come and gone in a variety of styles for men, but the "sideburn" was probably only seen after 1800, and then only as part of a beard.
answered 9 hours ago
CascabelCascabel
9,3126 gold badges32 silver badges60 bronze badges
I am still trying to verify this as "whiskers" also appears to refer to mustache.
– Cascabel
8 hours ago
Walker's pronouncing dictionary (1828) says "hair growing on the cheek unshaven; the mustachio." So whiskers seems to have meant non-chin facial hair. (Unless mustachio meant sideburns, which I doubt.)
– Peter Shor
7 hours ago
@PeterShor gotta look it up, but just before we lost service here I was looking at a portrait of King Charles, in which he was described as "having two pencil-line whiskers"...an obvious reference to his mustache. I'm on the point of trashing this post, or radically revamping it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
1
Don't trash it; revise it. Two names for them were side whiskers and mutton-chop whiskers. See Google Ngrams.
– Peter Shor
6 hours ago
@PeterShor I find myself at a loss here; WS2 has obviously said this in comments, but for some reason is not directly including it in his answer...? I do not want to tread on anybody's toes here. I gotta think about this a while
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The style shown in your link was called...
mutton-chop beard
also
mutton-chop whiskers
Mutton chop beards are so named because they resemble a piece of chopped mutton, particular when shaped correctly. They’re characterized by sideburns that are chopped, or cut, along with the lower jawline and extend to the chin.
This only refers to the luxuriant type of facial hair style as pictured in your link. It is still in use today.
The phrase seems to go back to approxiamtely 1845, according to N grams.
However, some probably just referred to them as
whiskers
Notice that in the descriptions in Prints of English Heads, they are listed separately from styles of beards.
…Black Cap, Hair, Whiskers, peaked Beard, Band…
Beards have come and gone in a variety of styles for men, but the "sideburn" was probably only seen after 1800, and then only as part of a beard.
answered 9 hours ago
CascabelCascabel
9,3126 gold badges32 silver badges60 bronze badges
I am still trying to verify this as "whiskers" also appears to refer to mustache.
– Cascabel
8 hours ago
Walker's pronouncing dictionary (1828) says "hair growing on the cheek unshaven; the mustachio." So whiskers seems to have meant non-chin facial hair. (Unless mustachio meant sideburns, which I doubt.)
– Peter Shor
7 hours ago
@PeterShor gotta look it up, but just before we lost service here I was looking at a portrait of King Charles, in which he was described as "having two pencil-line whiskers"...an obvious reference to his mustache. I'm on the point of trashing this post, or radically revamping it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
1
Don't trash it; revise it. Two names for them were side whiskers and mutton-chop whiskers. See Google Ngrams.
– Peter Shor
6 hours ago
@PeterShor I find myself at a loss here; WS2 has obviously said this in comments, but for some reason is not directly including it in his answer...? I do not want to tread on anybody's toes here. I gotta think about this a while
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The style shown in your link was called...
mutton-chop beard
also
mutton-chop whiskers
Mutton chop beards are so named because they resemble a piece of chopped mutton, particular when shaped correctly. They’re characterized by sideburns that are chopped, or cut, along with the lower jawline and extend to the chin.
This only refers to the luxuriant type of facial hair style as pictured in your link. It is still in use today.
The phrase seems to go back to approxiamtely 1845, according to N grams.
However, some probably just referred to them as
whiskers
Notice that in the descriptions in Prints of English Heads, they are listed separately from styles of beards.
…Black Cap, Hair, Whiskers, peaked Beard, Band…
Beards have come and gone in a variety of styles for men, but the "sideburn" was probably only seen after 1800, and then only as part of a beard.
answered 9 hours ago
CascabelCascabel
9,3126 gold badges32 silver badges60 bronze badges
The style shown in your link was called...
mutton-chop beard
also
mutton-chop whiskers
Mutton chop beards are so named because they resemble a piece of chopped mutton, particular when shaped correctly. They’re characterized by sideburns that are chopped, or cut, along with the lower jawline and extend to the chin.
This only refers to the luxuriant type of facial hair style as pictured in your link. It is still in use today.
The phrase seems to go back to approxiamtely 1845, according to N grams.
However, some probably just referred to them as
whiskers
Notice that in the descriptions in Prints of English Heads, they are listed separately from styles of beards.
…Black Cap, Hair, Whiskers, peaked Beard, Band…
Beards have come and gone in a variety of styles for men, but the "sideburn" was probably only seen after 1800, and then only as part of a beard.
answered 9 hours ago
CascabelCascabel
9,3126 gold badges32 silver badges60 bronze badges
edited 5 hours ago
answered 9 hours ago
CascabelCascabel
9,3126 gold badges32 silver badges60 bronze badges
answered 9 hours ago
CascabelCascabel
9,3126 gold badges32 silver badges60 bronze badges
answered 9 hours ago
CascabelCascabel
9,3126 gold badges32 silver badges60 bronze badges
9,3126 gold badges32 silver badges60 bronze badges
I am still trying to verify this as "whiskers" also appears to refer to mustache.
– Cascabel
8 hours ago
Walker's pronouncing dictionary (1828) says "hair growing on the cheek unshaven; the mustachio." So whiskers seems to have meant non-chin facial hair. (Unless mustachio meant sideburns, which I doubt.)
– Peter Shor
7 hours ago
@PeterShor gotta look it up, but just before we lost service here I was looking at a portrait of King Charles, in which he was described as "having two pencil-line whiskers"...an obvious reference to his mustache. I'm on the point of trashing this post, or radically revamping it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
1
Don't trash it; revise it. Two names for them were side whiskers and mutton-chop whiskers. See Google Ngrams.
– Peter Shor
6 hours ago
@PeterShor I find myself at a loss here; WS2 has obviously said this in comments, but for some reason is not directly including it in his answer...? I do not want to tread on anybody's toes here. I gotta think about this a while
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
I am still trying to verify this as "whiskers" also appears to refer to mustache.
– Cascabel
8 hours ago
Walker's pronouncing dictionary (1828) says "hair growing on the cheek unshaven; the mustachio." So whiskers seems to have meant non-chin facial hair. (Unless mustachio meant sideburns, which I doubt.)
– Peter Shor
7 hours ago
@PeterShor gotta look it up, but just before we lost service here I was looking at a portrait of King Charles, in which he was described as "having two pencil-line whiskers"...an obvious reference to his mustache. I'm on the point of trashing this post, or radically revamping it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
1
Don't trash it; revise it. Two names for them were side whiskers and mutton-chop whiskers. See Google Ngrams.
– Peter Shor
6 hours ago
@PeterShor I find myself at a loss here; WS2 has obviously said this in comments, but for some reason is not directly including it in his answer...? I do not want to tread on anybody's toes here. I gotta think about this a while
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
I am still trying to verify this as "whiskers" also appears to refer to mustache.
– Cascabel
8 hours ago
I am still trying to verify this as "whiskers" also appears to refer to mustache.
– Cascabel
8 hours ago
Walker's pronouncing dictionary (1828) says "hair growing on the cheek unshaven; the mustachio." So whiskers seems to have meant non-chin facial hair. (Unless mustachio meant sideburns, which I doubt.)
– Peter Shor
7 hours ago
Walker's pronouncing dictionary (1828) says "hair growing on the cheek unshaven; the mustachio." So whiskers seems to have meant non-chin facial hair. (Unless mustachio meant sideburns, which I doubt.)
– Peter Shor
7 hours ago
@PeterShor gotta look it up, but just before we lost service here I was looking at a portrait of King Charles, in which he was described as "having two pencil-line whiskers"...an obvious reference to his mustache. I'm on the point of trashing this post, or radically revamping it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
@PeterShor gotta look it up, but just before we lost service here I was looking at a portrait of King Charles, in which he was described as "having two pencil-line whiskers"...an obvious reference to his mustache. I'm on the point of trashing this post, or radically revamping it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago
1
1
Don't trash it; revise it. Two names for them were side whiskers and mutton-chop whiskers. See Google Ngrams.
– Peter Shor
6 hours ago
Don't trash it; revise it. Two names for them were side whiskers and mutton-chop whiskers. See Google Ngrams.
– Peter Shor
6 hours ago
@PeterShor I find myself at a loss here; WS2 has obviously said this in comments, but for some reason is not directly including it in his answer...? I do not want to tread on anybody's toes here. I gotta think about this a while
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
@PeterShor I find myself at a loss here; WS2 has obviously said this in comments, but for some reason is not directly including it in his answer...? I do not want to tread on anybody's toes here. I gotta think about this a while
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The OED confirms BURNSIDE as a precursor to sideburns.
‘A style of beard such as that affected by General Burnside (1824–81),
consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ( Cent.
Dict. Suppl. 1909). Frequently plural. Also attributive. Cf. sideburn
n. 1875 Cincinnati Enquirer 6 July 2/1 His whisker was of the
Burnside type, consisting of mustache and ‘muttonchop’, the chin being
perfectly clean.
1881 I. M. Rittenhouse Jrnl. in Maud (1939) i. 36
The older one has lovely burn-sides.
1907 Outing 50 279 Such
various patterns of ornamental whiskers as the ‘Piccadilly Weeper’
(No. 2), the ‘Burnside’, etc.
1930 Publishers' Weekly 8 Feb. 679
In the days of copper-toed boots and burnsides..our grandfathers were
buying this book.
Sideburns
Etymology:
Apparently an alteration of Burnside n., after side-whisker n. at
side n.1 Compounds 3, side hair n. at side n.1 Compounds 1c(b), etc.
orig. U.S.
Thesaurus »
Categories »
A strip of facial hair grown by a man down each side of his face in
front of the ears. Usually in plural. 1876 People (Indianapolis) 8
Apr. 2/4 Norris and Warner want to be fashionable. They are
cultivating side-burns.
1887 Chicago Jrnl. 1 Aug. McGarigle has
his mustache and small sideburns still on.
1936 G. Greene Journey
without Maps ii. iv. 197 He was..handsome in his native robe and his
sideburns.
1985 Times 31 Jan. 13/5 The world will not be won or
lost on the fall of a fringe or the length of a sideburn. 2004 T. C.
Boyle Inner Circle ii. iv. 298 The manager was a very proper-looking
character with swept-back hair, silvered sideburns and the trace of an
Italian accent.
The text in bold above - re "side-whiskers" and "side-hair" answer the question.
answered 6 hours ago
WS2WS2
52.7k29 gold badges118 silver badges254 bronze badges
+1 I keep my commitments...bu t I am still looking for the references to pre-Burnside.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
As quoted in your citation has it as ..." consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin", so it seems like "whiskers" refers to the "sideburns".
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
@Cascabel The answer is "side-whiskers" and/or "side hair". "Whiskers" can refer to any facial hair. My own grandfather's moustache, when I knew him in the 1940s/50s, was referred to, by an older generation as his "whiskers".
– WS2
6 hours ago
Do you mind if I edit this to emphasize "...consisting of a mustache ,whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ?
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The OED confirms BURNSIDE as a precursor to sideburns.
‘A style of beard such as that affected by General Burnside (1824–81),
consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ( Cent.
Dict. Suppl. 1909). Frequently plural. Also attributive. Cf. sideburn
n. 1875 Cincinnati Enquirer 6 July 2/1 His whisker was of the
Burnside type, consisting of mustache and ‘muttonchop’, the chin being
perfectly clean.
1881 I. M. Rittenhouse Jrnl. in Maud (1939) i. 36
The older one has lovely burn-sides.
1907 Outing 50 279 Such
various patterns of ornamental whiskers as the ‘Piccadilly Weeper’
(No. 2), the ‘Burnside’, etc.
1930 Publishers' Weekly 8 Feb. 679
In the days of copper-toed boots and burnsides..our grandfathers were
buying this book.
Sideburns
Etymology:
Apparently an alteration of Burnside n., after side-whisker n. at
side n.1 Compounds 3, side hair n. at side n.1 Compounds 1c(b), etc.
orig. U.S.
Thesaurus »
Categories »
A strip of facial hair grown by a man down each side of his face in
front of the ears. Usually in plural. 1876 People (Indianapolis) 8
Apr. 2/4 Norris and Warner want to be fashionable. They are
cultivating side-burns.
1887 Chicago Jrnl. 1 Aug. McGarigle has
his mustache and small sideburns still on.
1936 G. Greene Journey
without Maps ii. iv. 197 He was..handsome in his native robe and his
sideburns.
1985 Times 31 Jan. 13/5 The world will not be won or
lost on the fall of a fringe or the length of a sideburn. 2004 T. C.
Boyle Inner Circle ii. iv. 298 The manager was a very proper-looking
character with swept-back hair, silvered sideburns and the trace of an
Italian accent.
The text in bold above - re "side-whiskers" and "side-hair" answer the question.
answered 6 hours ago
WS2WS2
52.7k29 gold badges118 silver badges254 bronze badges
+1 I keep my commitments...bu t I am still looking for the references to pre-Burnside.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
As quoted in your citation has it as ..." consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin", so it seems like "whiskers" refers to the "sideburns".
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
@Cascabel The answer is "side-whiskers" and/or "side hair". "Whiskers" can refer to any facial hair. My own grandfather's moustache, when I knew him in the 1940s/50s, was referred to, by an older generation as his "whiskers".
– WS2
6 hours ago
Do you mind if I edit this to emphasize "...consisting of a mustache ,whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ?
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The OED confirms BURNSIDE as a precursor to sideburns.
‘A style of beard such as that affected by General Burnside (1824–81),
consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ( Cent.
Dict. Suppl. 1909). Frequently plural. Also attributive. Cf. sideburn
n. 1875 Cincinnati Enquirer 6 July 2/1 His whisker was of the
Burnside type, consisting of mustache and ‘muttonchop’, the chin being
perfectly clean.
1881 I. M. Rittenhouse Jrnl. in Maud (1939) i. 36
The older one has lovely burn-sides.
1907 Outing 50 279 Such
various patterns of ornamental whiskers as the ‘Piccadilly Weeper’
(No. 2), the ‘Burnside’, etc.
1930 Publishers' Weekly 8 Feb. 679
In the days of copper-toed boots and burnsides..our grandfathers were
buying this book.
Sideburns
Etymology:
Apparently an alteration of Burnside n., after side-whisker n. at
side n.1 Compounds 3, side hair n. at side n.1 Compounds 1c(b), etc.
orig. U.S.
Thesaurus »
Categories »
A strip of facial hair grown by a man down each side of his face in
front of the ears. Usually in plural. 1876 People (Indianapolis) 8
Apr. 2/4 Norris and Warner want to be fashionable. They are
cultivating side-burns.
1887 Chicago Jrnl. 1 Aug. McGarigle has
his mustache and small sideburns still on.
1936 G. Greene Journey
without Maps ii. iv. 197 He was..handsome in his native robe and his
sideburns.
1985 Times 31 Jan. 13/5 The world will not be won or
lost on the fall of a fringe or the length of a sideburn. 2004 T. C.
Boyle Inner Circle ii. iv. 298 The manager was a very proper-looking
character with swept-back hair, silvered sideburns and the trace of an
Italian accent.
The text in bold above - re "side-whiskers" and "side-hair" answer the question.
answered 6 hours ago
WS2WS2
52.7k29 gold badges118 silver badges254 bronze badges
The OED confirms BURNSIDE as a precursor to sideburns.
‘A style of beard such as that affected by General Burnside (1824–81),
consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ( Cent.
Dict. Suppl. 1909). Frequently plural. Also attributive. Cf. sideburn
n. 1875 Cincinnati Enquirer 6 July 2/1 His whisker was of the
Burnside type, consisting of mustache and ‘muttonchop’, the chin being
perfectly clean.
1881 I. M. Rittenhouse Jrnl. in Maud (1939) i. 36
The older one has lovely burn-sides.
1907 Outing 50 279 Such
various patterns of ornamental whiskers as the ‘Piccadilly Weeper’
(No. 2), the ‘Burnside’, etc.
1930 Publishers' Weekly 8 Feb. 679
In the days of copper-toed boots and burnsides..our grandfathers were
buying this book.
Sideburns
Etymology:
Apparently an alteration of Burnside n., after side-whisker n. at
side n.1 Compounds 3, side hair n. at side n.1 Compounds 1c(b), etc.
orig. U.S.
Thesaurus »
Categories »
A strip of facial hair grown by a man down each side of his face in
front of the ears. Usually in plural. 1876 People (Indianapolis) 8
Apr. 2/4 Norris and Warner want to be fashionable. They are
cultivating side-burns.
1887 Chicago Jrnl. 1 Aug. McGarigle has
his mustache and small sideburns still on.
1936 G. Greene Journey
without Maps ii. iv. 197 He was..handsome in his native robe and his
sideburns.
1985 Times 31 Jan. 13/5 The world will not be won or
lost on the fall of a fringe or the length of a sideburn. 2004 T. C.
Boyle Inner Circle ii. iv. 298 The manager was a very proper-looking
character with swept-back hair, silvered sideburns and the trace of an
Italian accent.
The text in bold above - re "side-whiskers" and "side-hair" answer the question.
answered 6 hours ago
WS2WS2
52.7k29 gold badges118 silver badges254 bronze badges
answered 6 hours ago
WS2WS2
52.7k29 gold badges118 silver badges254 bronze badges
answered 6 hours ago
WS2WS2
52.7k29 gold badges118 silver badges254 bronze badges
answered 6 hours ago
WS2WS2
52.7k29 gold badges118 silver badges254 bronze badges
52.7k29 gold badges118 silver badges254 bronze badges
+1 I keep my commitments...bu t I am still looking for the references to pre-Burnside.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
As quoted in your citation has it as ..." consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin", so it seems like "whiskers" refers to the "sideburns".
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
@Cascabel The answer is "side-whiskers" and/or "side hair". "Whiskers" can refer to any facial hair. My own grandfather's moustache, when I knew him in the 1940s/50s, was referred to, by an older generation as his "whiskers".
– WS2
6 hours ago
Do you mind if I edit this to emphasize "...consisting of a mustache ,whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ?
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
+1 I keep my commitments...bu t I am still looking for the references to pre-Burnside.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
As quoted in your citation has it as ..." consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin", so it seems like "whiskers" refers to the "sideburns".
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
@Cascabel The answer is "side-whiskers" and/or "side hair". "Whiskers" can refer to any facial hair. My own grandfather's moustache, when I knew him in the 1940s/50s, was referred to, by an older generation as his "whiskers".
– WS2
6 hours ago
Do you mind if I edit this to emphasize "...consisting of a mustache ,whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ?
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
+1 I keep my commitments...bu t I am still looking for the references to pre-Burnside.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
+1 I keep my commitments...bu t I am still looking for the references to pre-Burnside.
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
As quoted in your citation has it as ..." consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin", so it seems like "whiskers" refers to the "sideburns".
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
As quoted in your citation has it as ..." consisting of a mustache, whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin", so it seems like "whiskers" refers to the "sideburns".
– Cascabel
6 hours ago
1
1
@Cascabel The answer is "side-whiskers" and/or "side hair". "Whiskers" can refer to any facial hair. My own grandfather's moustache, when I knew him in the 1940s/50s, was referred to, by an older generation as his "whiskers".
– WS2
6 hours ago
@Cascabel The answer is "side-whiskers" and/or "side hair". "Whiskers" can refer to any facial hair. My own grandfather's moustache, when I knew him in the 1940s/50s, was referred to, by an older generation as his "whiskers".
– WS2
6 hours ago
Do you mind if I edit this to emphasize "...consisting of a mustache ,whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ?
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
Do you mind if I edit this to emphasize "...consisting of a mustache ,whiskers, and a clean-shaven chin’ ?
– Cascabel
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to English Language & Usage Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fenglish.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f502698%2fwhat-is-the-olden-name-for-sideburns%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
The OED's first reference is 1876 - but Burnside is mentioned in the etymology. Previous appellations listed are "side whiskers" and "side hair".
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 As you have access to better sources than I do, could you post an answer; I will certainly up-vote it.
– Cascabel
7 hours ago