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Putting a comma to convert a simple sentence to a complex one
Second comma in “Он явил, т.е. доказал, тот факт”Comma in «самый что ни на есть»Comma in “нe то чтобы”Placing more than one sentence inside parenthesesComma in “Не знаю, что вам сказать”Comma in such phrases like “большáя, если не бóльшая часть”Do I need a comma after an opposite alternative presented by “а не …” phrase in a complex sentence?Do I need comma here?Clauses after non-accusative verbs or то“Он сражался как самурай” - should I put a comma?
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Он отправился в море, и наловил там много рыбы.
The above sentence is from my essay, and my teacher marked the comma as a punctuation mistake of mine. I strongly disagree with him. Being unable to persuade him that I am right, I decided to humbly ask native speakers on this SE. Please kindly resolve our argument.
I put this comma in order to convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence with two independent clauses, the second one having zero subject. I knew that the sentence would be perfectly okay without the comma, but I wanted to make a pause in this sentence. I wanted the reader to first imagine the setting off for fishing, then make a pause, and then imagine the fishing itself. Without the comma the sentence would read very quickly and be a single idea. I even considered putting a full stop instead of the comma.
At any rate, I believe that putting this comma is not against the Russian grammar rules. I believe I have the right to convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence by putting a comma. I believe that an independent clause with zero subject is still a valid independent clause. I believe that the phrase "и наловил там много рыбы" would even make a valid isolated sentence.
However, my teacher insists that putting this comma is a mistake. He says that a sentence with one subject and two verbs separated by the conjunction и must always be written without a comma.
I explained him why I had put this comma, and he laughed and said that only great Russian writers have the privilege of putting commas for reasons like this. He says that if I were Pushkin, he would consider my comma as a punctuation sign with its own deep meaning. He went as far as saying that my comma is a mistake because I am just a student. But I strongly believe that whether a comma is a mistake cannot depend on the author.
My question is this: Who is wrong - I or the teacher? In other words, is it a mistake to put this comma?
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Он отправился в море, и наловил там много рыбы.
The above sentence is from my essay, and my teacher marked the comma as a punctuation mistake of mine. I strongly disagree with him. Being unable to persuade him that I am right, I decided to humbly ask native speakers on this SE. Please kindly resolve our argument.
I put this comma in order to convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence with two independent clauses, the second one having zero subject. I knew that the sentence would be perfectly okay without the comma, but I wanted to make a pause in this sentence. I wanted the reader to first imagine the setting off for fishing, then make a pause, and then imagine the fishing itself. Without the comma the sentence would read very quickly and be a single idea. I even considered putting a full stop instead of the comma.
At any rate, I believe that putting this comma is not against the Russian grammar rules. I believe I have the right to convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence by putting a comma. I believe that an independent clause with zero subject is still a valid independent clause. I believe that the phrase "и наловил там много рыбы" would even make a valid isolated sentence.
However, my teacher insists that putting this comma is a mistake. He says that a sentence with one subject and two verbs separated by the conjunction и must always be written without a comma.
I explained him why I had put this comma, and he laughed and said that only great Russian writers have the privilege of putting commas for reasons like this. He says that if I were Pushkin, he would consider my comma as a punctuation sign with its own deep meaning. He went as far as saying that my comma is a mistake because I am just a student. But I strongly believe that whether a comma is a mistake cannot depend on the author.
My question is this: Who is wrong - I or the teacher? In other words, is it a mistake to put this comma?
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Он отправился в море, и наловил там много рыбы.
The above sentence is from my essay, and my teacher marked the comma as a punctuation mistake of mine. I strongly disagree with him. Being unable to persuade him that I am right, I decided to humbly ask native speakers on this SE. Please kindly resolve our argument.
I put this comma in order to convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence with two independent clauses, the second one having zero subject. I knew that the sentence would be perfectly okay without the comma, but I wanted to make a pause in this sentence. I wanted the reader to first imagine the setting off for fishing, then make a pause, and then imagine the fishing itself. Without the comma the sentence would read very quickly and be a single idea. I even considered putting a full stop instead of the comma.
At any rate, I believe that putting this comma is not against the Russian grammar rules. I believe I have the right to convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence by putting a comma. I believe that an independent clause with zero subject is still a valid independent clause. I believe that the phrase "и наловил там много рыбы" would even make a valid isolated sentence.
However, my teacher insists that putting this comma is a mistake. He says that a sentence with one subject and two verbs separated by the conjunction и must always be written without a comma.
I explained him why I had put this comma, and he laughed and said that only great Russian writers have the privilege of putting commas for reasons like this. He says that if I were Pushkin, he would consider my comma as a punctuation sign with its own deep meaning. He went as far as saying that my comma is a mistake because I am just a student. But I strongly believe that whether a comma is a mistake cannot depend on the author.
My question is this: Who is wrong - I or the teacher? In other words, is it a mistake to put this comma?
пунктуация clauses
Он отправился в море, и наловил там много рыбы.
The above sentence is from my essay, and my teacher marked the comma as a punctuation mistake of mine. I strongly disagree with him. Being unable to persuade him that I am right, I decided to humbly ask native speakers on this SE. Please kindly resolve our argument.
I put this comma in order to convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence with two independent clauses, the second one having zero subject. I knew that the sentence would be perfectly okay without the comma, but I wanted to make a pause in this sentence. I wanted the reader to first imagine the setting off for fishing, then make a pause, and then imagine the fishing itself. Without the comma the sentence would read very quickly and be a single idea. I even considered putting a full stop instead of the comma.
At any rate, I believe that putting this comma is not against the Russian grammar rules. I believe I have the right to convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence by putting a comma. I believe that an independent clause with zero subject is still a valid independent clause. I believe that the phrase "и наловил там много рыбы" would even make a valid isolated sentence.
However, my teacher insists that putting this comma is a mistake. He says that a sentence with one subject and two verbs separated by the conjunction и must always be written without a comma.
I explained him why I had put this comma, and he laughed and said that only great Russian writers have the privilege of putting commas for reasons like this. He says that if I were Pushkin, he would consider my comma as a punctuation sign with its own deep meaning. He went as far as saying that my comma is a mistake because I am just a student. But I strongly believe that whether a comma is a mistake cannot depend on the author.
My question is this: Who is wrong - I or the teacher? In other words, is it a mistake to put this comma?
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It is a simple sentence with two homogeneous predicates. There's only one subject both predicates refer to. That's why your teacher is right, there should be no comma in this sentence.
It is a common mistake nowadays when people are non-educated enough to put commas whenever they take breath. Even breaking the punctuation rules and common sense. That's why it sooner irritates than makes us pause.
Ohhh! Can I write as follows: Он отправился в море. И наловил там много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
4 hours ago
@Mitsuko You'd better not :) This would be very close to yet another annoying cliche that has been adopted recently by "the Internet community" (bloggers and the like): Do not. Write. Like this. :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
@tum_ : Okay, can I write as follows: Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
If yes, can I then remove the second он but keep the comma?
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko 1) Looks formally correct (punctuation-wise) but odd stylistically. The repetition of "он" can hardly be justified. 2) No. If you remove the он you need to remove the comma. Have a look at Сложносочиненное предложение.
– tum_
3 hours ago
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I just want to add to the previous answer that putting a comma doesn't convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence. There is no such a rule and your teacher was totally right telling you that it's only writers' privilege to make one more simple sentence out of nothing, just by putting a comma.
A comma doesn't create any more main clauses than there are in the sentence. But if you don't put a comma you just make a mistake: you can't see the right ammount of grammar structures - main clauses.
I advice you to identify or underline all the main clauses in the sentence while you study. This is extremely useful. And after all remember that russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :)
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russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :) - and this, as @Elena points out, does irritate the minority of native speakers who were taught how commas should be used :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
There is no russian native speaker who can put all the commas correctly. And there are some cases where a comma does depend on a tone of the message of the sentence. So those guys who get irritated by simple mistakes... well it's just easy to show that u remember that simple rule from your school so good luck with that
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko I'm sorry to respond under this post. Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы. This is correct (ОН отправился, И ОН наловил) - two main clauses. If you remove the second "он", the sentence is going to be like it used to. So the clause will be again: ОН отправился И наловил. Only one main clause with two predicates. So it would be wrong to put a comma here.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko If u want to stress the second part or make a pause between those parts you can write like "Он отправился в море. Наловил много рыбы. OR Наловил там много рыбы." Just an example. Try to mix those things to stress the amount of fish or the fact of fishing, idk what u wanted a reader to focus on.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
I think I misread you message. I understood "where we feel to" (by which you probably tried to say intuitively, based on one's intuition) as "where feel like it" (где нам вздумается). The latter does irritate. I'm talking about such examples as Я, не помню где надо ставить запятые поэтому, ставлю их, где хочу. And I'm not joking - I'm seeing more and more examples like this in Runet.
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It is a simple sentence with two homogeneous predicates. There's only one subject both predicates refer to. That's why your teacher is right, there should be no comma in this sentence.
It is a common mistake nowadays when people are non-educated enough to put commas whenever they take breath. Even breaking the punctuation rules and common sense. That's why it sooner irritates than makes us pause.
Ohhh! Can I write as follows: Он отправился в море. И наловил там много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
4 hours ago
@Mitsuko You'd better not :) This would be very close to yet another annoying cliche that has been adopted recently by "the Internet community" (bloggers and the like): Do not. Write. Like this. :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
@tum_ : Okay, can I write as follows: Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
If yes, can I then remove the second он but keep the comma?
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko 1) Looks formally correct (punctuation-wise) but odd stylistically. The repetition of "он" can hardly be justified. 2) No. If you remove the он you need to remove the comma. Have a look at Сложносочиненное предложение.
– tum_
3 hours ago
|
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It is a simple sentence with two homogeneous predicates. There's only one subject both predicates refer to. That's why your teacher is right, there should be no comma in this sentence.
It is a common mistake nowadays when people are non-educated enough to put commas whenever they take breath. Even breaking the punctuation rules and common sense. That's why it sooner irritates than makes us pause.
Ohhh! Can I write as follows: Он отправился в море. И наловил там много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
4 hours ago
@Mitsuko You'd better not :) This would be very close to yet another annoying cliche that has been adopted recently by "the Internet community" (bloggers and the like): Do not. Write. Like this. :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
@tum_ : Okay, can I write as follows: Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
If yes, can I then remove the second он but keep the comma?
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko 1) Looks formally correct (punctuation-wise) but odd stylistically. The repetition of "он" can hardly be justified. 2) No. If you remove the он you need to remove the comma. Have a look at Сложносочиненное предложение.
– tum_
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
It is a simple sentence with two homogeneous predicates. There's only one subject both predicates refer to. That's why your teacher is right, there should be no comma in this sentence.
It is a common mistake nowadays when people are non-educated enough to put commas whenever they take breath. Even breaking the punctuation rules and common sense. That's why it sooner irritates than makes us pause.
It is a simple sentence with two homogeneous predicates. There's only one subject both predicates refer to. That's why your teacher is right, there should be no comma in this sentence.
It is a common mistake nowadays when people are non-educated enough to put commas whenever they take breath. Even breaking the punctuation rules and common sense. That's why it sooner irritates than makes us pause.
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Ohhh! Can I write as follows: Он отправился в море. И наловил там много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
4 hours ago
@Mitsuko You'd better not :) This would be very close to yet another annoying cliche that has been adopted recently by "the Internet community" (bloggers and the like): Do not. Write. Like this. :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
@tum_ : Okay, can I write as follows: Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
If yes, can I then remove the second он but keep the comma?
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko 1) Looks formally correct (punctuation-wise) but odd stylistically. The repetition of "он" can hardly be justified. 2) No. If you remove the он you need to remove the comma. Have a look at Сложносочиненное предложение.
– tum_
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Ohhh! Can I write as follows: Он отправился в море. И наловил там много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
4 hours ago
@Mitsuko You'd better not :) This would be very close to yet another annoying cliche that has been adopted recently by "the Internet community" (bloggers and the like): Do not. Write. Like this. :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
@tum_ : Okay, can I write as follows: Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
If yes, can I then remove the second он but keep the comma?
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko 1) Looks formally correct (punctuation-wise) but odd stylistically. The repetition of "он" can hardly be justified. 2) No. If you remove the он you need to remove the comma. Have a look at Сложносочиненное предложение.
– tum_
3 hours ago
Ohhh! Can I write as follows: Он отправился в море. И наловил там много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
4 hours ago
Ohhh! Can I write as follows: Он отправился в море. И наловил там много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
4 hours ago
@Mitsuko You'd better not :) This would be very close to yet another annoying cliche that has been adopted recently by "the Internet community" (bloggers and the like): Do not. Write. Like this. :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko You'd better not :) This would be very close to yet another annoying cliche that has been adopted recently by "the Internet community" (bloggers and the like): Do not. Write. Like this. :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
@tum_ : Okay, can I write as follows: Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
@tum_ : Okay, can I write as follows: Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы.
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
If yes, can I then remove the second он but keep the comma?
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
If yes, can I then remove the second он but keep the comma?
– Mitsuko
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko 1) Looks formally correct (punctuation-wise) but odd stylistically. The repetition of "он" can hardly be justified. 2) No. If you remove the он you need to remove the comma. Have a look at Сложносочиненное предложение.
– tum_
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko 1) Looks formally correct (punctuation-wise) but odd stylistically. The repetition of "он" can hardly be justified. 2) No. If you remove the он you need to remove the comma. Have a look at Сложносочиненное предложение.
– tum_
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
I just want to add to the previous answer that putting a comma doesn't convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence. There is no such a rule and your teacher was totally right telling you that it's only writers' privilege to make one more simple sentence out of nothing, just by putting a comma.
A comma doesn't create any more main clauses than there are in the sentence. But if you don't put a comma you just make a mistake: you can't see the right ammount of grammar structures - main clauses.
I advice you to identify or underline all the main clauses in the sentence while you study. This is extremely useful. And after all remember that russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :)
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russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :) - and this, as @Elena points out, does irritate the minority of native speakers who were taught how commas should be used :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
There is no russian native speaker who can put all the commas correctly. And there are some cases where a comma does depend on a tone of the message of the sentence. So those guys who get irritated by simple mistakes... well it's just easy to show that u remember that simple rule from your school so good luck with that
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko I'm sorry to respond under this post. Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы. This is correct (ОН отправился, И ОН наловил) - two main clauses. If you remove the second "он", the sentence is going to be like it used to. So the clause will be again: ОН отправился И наловил. Only one main clause with two predicates. So it would be wrong to put a comma here.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko If u want to stress the second part or make a pause between those parts you can write like "Он отправился в море. Наловил много рыбы. OR Наловил там много рыбы." Just an example. Try to mix those things to stress the amount of fish or the fact of fishing, idk what u wanted a reader to focus on.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
I think I misread you message. I understood "where we feel to" (by which you probably tried to say intuitively, based on one's intuition) as "where feel like it" (где нам вздумается). The latter does irritate. I'm talking about such examples as Я, не помню где надо ставить запятые поэтому, ставлю их, где хочу. And I'm not joking - I'm seeing more and more examples like this in Runet.
– tum_
2 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
I just want to add to the previous answer that putting a comma doesn't convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence. There is no such a rule and your teacher was totally right telling you that it's only writers' privilege to make one more simple sentence out of nothing, just by putting a comma.
A comma doesn't create any more main clauses than there are in the sentence. But if you don't put a comma you just make a mistake: you can't see the right ammount of grammar structures - main clauses.
I advice you to identify or underline all the main clauses in the sentence while you study. This is extremely useful. And after all remember that russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :)
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russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :) - and this, as @Elena points out, does irritate the minority of native speakers who were taught how commas should be used :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
There is no russian native speaker who can put all the commas correctly. And there are some cases where a comma does depend on a tone of the message of the sentence. So those guys who get irritated by simple mistakes... well it's just easy to show that u remember that simple rule from your school so good luck with that
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko I'm sorry to respond under this post. Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы. This is correct (ОН отправился, И ОН наловил) - two main clauses. If you remove the second "он", the sentence is going to be like it used to. So the clause will be again: ОН отправился И наловил. Only one main clause with two predicates. So it would be wrong to put a comma here.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko If u want to stress the second part or make a pause between those parts you can write like "Он отправился в море. Наловил много рыбы. OR Наловил там много рыбы." Just an example. Try to mix those things to stress the amount of fish or the fact of fishing, idk what u wanted a reader to focus on.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
I think I misread you message. I understood "where we feel to" (by which you probably tried to say intuitively, based on one's intuition) as "where feel like it" (где нам вздумается). The latter does irritate. I'm talking about such examples as Я, не помню где надо ставить запятые поэтому, ставлю их, где хочу. And I'm not joking - I'm seeing more and more examples like this in Runet.
– tum_
2 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
I just want to add to the previous answer that putting a comma doesn't convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence. There is no such a rule and your teacher was totally right telling you that it's only writers' privilege to make one more simple sentence out of nothing, just by putting a comma.
A comma doesn't create any more main clauses than there are in the sentence. But if you don't put a comma you just make a mistake: you can't see the right ammount of grammar structures - main clauses.
I advice you to identify or underline all the main clauses in the sentence while you study. This is extremely useful. And after all remember that russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :)
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I just want to add to the previous answer that putting a comma doesn't convert a simple sentence to a complex sentence. There is no such a rule and your teacher was totally right telling you that it's only writers' privilege to make one more simple sentence out of nothing, just by putting a comma.
A comma doesn't create any more main clauses than there are in the sentence. But if you don't put a comma you just make a mistake: you can't see the right ammount of grammar structures - main clauses.
I advice you to identify or underline all the main clauses in the sentence while you study. This is extremely useful. And after all remember that russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :)
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russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :) - and this, as @Elena points out, does irritate the minority of native speakers who were taught how commas should be used :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
There is no russian native speaker who can put all the commas correctly. And there are some cases where a comma does depend on a tone of the message of the sentence. So those guys who get irritated by simple mistakes... well it's just easy to show that u remember that simple rule from your school so good luck with that
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko I'm sorry to respond under this post. Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы. This is correct (ОН отправился, И ОН наловил) - two main clauses. If you remove the second "он", the sentence is going to be like it used to. So the clause will be again: ОН отправился И наловил. Only one main clause with two predicates. So it would be wrong to put a comma here.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko If u want to stress the second part or make a pause between those parts you can write like "Он отправился в море. Наловил много рыбы. OR Наловил там много рыбы." Just an example. Try to mix those things to stress the amount of fish or the fact of fishing, idk what u wanted a reader to focus on.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
I think I misread you message. I understood "where we feel to" (by which you probably tried to say intuitively, based on one's intuition) as "where feel like it" (где нам вздумается). The latter does irritate. I'm talking about such examples as Я, не помню где надо ставить запятые поэтому, ставлю их, где хочу. And I'm not joking - I'm seeing more and more examples like this in Runet.
– tum_
2 hours ago
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russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :) - and this, as @Elena points out, does irritate the minority of native speakers who were taught how commas should be used :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
There is no russian native speaker who can put all the commas correctly. And there are some cases where a comma does depend on a tone of the message of the sentence. So those guys who get irritated by simple mistakes... well it's just easy to show that u remember that simple rule from your school so good luck with that
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko I'm sorry to respond under this post. Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы. This is correct (ОН отправился, И ОН наловил) - two main clauses. If you remove the second "он", the sentence is going to be like it used to. So the clause will be again: ОН отправился И наловил. Only one main clause with two predicates. So it would be wrong to put a comma here.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko If u want to stress the second part or make a pause between those parts you can write like "Он отправился в море. Наловил много рыбы. OR Наловил там много рыбы." Just an example. Try to mix those things to stress the amount of fish or the fact of fishing, idk what u wanted a reader to focus on.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
I think I misread you message. I understood "where we feel to" (by which you probably tried to say intuitively, based on one's intuition) as "where feel like it" (где нам вздумается). The latter does irritate. I'm talking about such examples as Я, не помню где надо ставить запятые поэтому, ставлю их, где хочу. And I'm not joking - I'm seeing more and more examples like this in Runet.
– tum_
2 hours ago
russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :) - and this, as @Elena points out, does irritate the minority of native speakers who were taught how commas should be used :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
russian native speakers make really a lot of mistakes putting commas and mostly we take it easy. We really like to put commas where we feel to :) - and this, as @Elena points out, does irritate the minority of native speakers who were taught how commas should be used :)
– tum_
3 hours ago
There is no russian native speaker who can put all the commas correctly. And there are some cases where a comma does depend on a tone of the message of the sentence. So those guys who get irritated by simple mistakes... well it's just easy to show that u remember that simple rule from your school so good luck with that
– Natalie
3 hours ago
There is no russian native speaker who can put all the commas correctly. And there are some cases where a comma does depend on a tone of the message of the sentence. So those guys who get irritated by simple mistakes... well it's just easy to show that u remember that simple rule from your school so good luck with that
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko I'm sorry to respond under this post. Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы. This is correct (ОН отправился, И ОН наловил) - two main clauses. If you remove the second "он", the sentence is going to be like it used to. So the clause will be again: ОН отправился И наловил. Only one main clause with two predicates. So it would be wrong to put a comma here.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko I'm sorry to respond under this post. Он отправился в море, и там он наловил много рыбы. This is correct (ОН отправился, И ОН наловил) - two main clauses. If you remove the second "он", the sentence is going to be like it used to. So the clause will be again: ОН отправился И наловил. Only one main clause with two predicates. So it would be wrong to put a comma here.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko If u want to stress the second part or make a pause between those parts you can write like "Он отправился в море. Наловил много рыбы. OR Наловил там много рыбы." Just an example. Try to mix those things to stress the amount of fish or the fact of fishing, idk what u wanted a reader to focus on.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
@Mitsuko If u want to stress the second part or make a pause between those parts you can write like "Он отправился в море. Наловил много рыбы. OR Наловил там много рыбы." Just an example. Try to mix those things to stress the amount of fish or the fact of fishing, idk what u wanted a reader to focus on.
– Natalie
3 hours ago
I think I misread you message. I understood "where we feel to" (by which you probably tried to say intuitively, based on one's intuition) as "where feel like it" (где нам вздумается). The latter does irritate. I'm talking about such examples as Я, не помню где надо ставить запятые поэтому, ставлю их, где хочу. And I'm not joking - I'm seeing more and more examples like this in Runet.
– tum_
2 hours ago
I think I misread you message. I understood "where we feel to" (by which you probably tried to say intuitively, based on one's intuition) as "where feel like it" (где нам вздумается). The latter does irritate. I'm talking about such examples as Я, не помню где надо ставить запятые поэтому, ставлю их, где хочу. And I'm not joking - I'm seeing more and more examples like this in Runet.
– tum_
2 hours ago
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