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Lately I have been developing a good relationship with Prof. Wright.



She has clearly* gone out of her way a few times to help me, having a very pleasant, generous, and kind personality. Prof. Wright is searching for students (in her university of course, undergraduate, Master, or PhD). I really like her research and would love to work in her area. However, there's no researcher working in the field anywhere near** my local university.




This brings the reason for this question: I have been thinking about
asking her if she could advise me.



  1. Is this unreasonable?

  2. If not, how unlikely is it for her to accept? (To make this practical: what would you do if you were in her shoes?)

  3. Is there a chance of this ruining our relationship? If yes, what can I do to make sure it won't ruin it?

  4. Finally, if I'm going to ask her to be my advisor, it won't (of course and unfortunately) be in person, which means email. What can I do to enhance my
    chances here?



A few remarks which are (probably) important:



  1. Of course such a setting should benefit both people! I would like to contribute to her research, in a way that is useful to her too;

  2. The subject is purely theoretical and does not require lab/field work;

  3. I am moderately independent when it comes to research. (This means I can't produce original research by myself, but can write an introduction to this area).


*To prevent against any kind of bias I may have in making this judgment, I have explained my situation to a few people, who agreed this is indeed a(n unusually) good relationship.



**Near here means less than 2000 km (probably even more).










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  • @AzorAhai, JeffE I can't move, as her university is in another continent. (At least for now, while I am an undergraduate. On the other hand, I want to apply to there when I go to graduate school; I'm also keeping an eye on opportunities for international study near her university)

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  • @alerera I am an undergraduate. (I have however been preparing to do research for the past few years, so hopefully I may be able to do original research with her, for this arrangement to benefit her too.)

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    4 hours ago
















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Lately I have been developing a good relationship with Prof. Wright.



She has clearly* gone out of her way a few times to help me, having a very pleasant, generous, and kind personality. Prof. Wright is searching for students (in her university of course, undergraduate, Master, or PhD). I really like her research and would love to work in her area. However, there's no researcher working in the field anywhere near** my local university.




This brings the reason for this question: I have been thinking about
asking her if she could advise me.



  1. Is this unreasonable?

  2. If not, how unlikely is it for her to accept? (To make this practical: what would you do if you were in her shoes?)

  3. Is there a chance of this ruining our relationship? If yes, what can I do to make sure it won't ruin it?

  4. Finally, if I'm going to ask her to be my advisor, it won't (of course and unfortunately) be in person, which means email. What can I do to enhance my
    chances here?



A few remarks which are (probably) important:



  1. Of course such a setting should benefit both people! I would like to contribute to her research, in a way that is useful to her too;

  2. The subject is purely theoretical and does not require lab/field work;

  3. I am moderately independent when it comes to research. (This means I can't produce original research by myself, but can write an introduction to this area).


*To prevent against any kind of bias I may have in making this judgment, I have explained my situation to a few people, who agreed this is indeed a(n unusually) good relationship.



**Near here means less than 2000 km (probably even more).










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    What are you doing at your current university?

    – Azor Ahai
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  • Can you move???

    – JeffE
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    You might want to clarify if you are an undergraduate looking for research experience, or a graduate student seeking to complete a thesis or dissertation as a required part of your program, or a graduate student looking to expand your network of collaborators.

    – alerera
    6 hours ago











  • @AzorAhai, JeffE I can't move, as her university is in another continent. (At least for now, while I am an undergraduate. On the other hand, I want to apply to there when I go to graduate school; I'm also keeping an eye on opportunities for international study near her university)

    – A. P.
    4 hours ago











  • @alerera I am an undergraduate. (I have however been preparing to do research for the past few years, so hopefully I may be able to do original research with her, for this arrangement to benefit her too.)

    – A. P.
    4 hours ago














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Lately I have been developing a good relationship with Prof. Wright.



She has clearly* gone out of her way a few times to help me, having a very pleasant, generous, and kind personality. Prof. Wright is searching for students (in her university of course, undergraduate, Master, or PhD). I really like her research and would love to work in her area. However, there's no researcher working in the field anywhere near** my local university.




This brings the reason for this question: I have been thinking about
asking her if she could advise me.



  1. Is this unreasonable?

  2. If not, how unlikely is it for her to accept? (To make this practical: what would you do if you were in her shoes?)

  3. Is there a chance of this ruining our relationship? If yes, what can I do to make sure it won't ruin it?

  4. Finally, if I'm going to ask her to be my advisor, it won't (of course and unfortunately) be in person, which means email. What can I do to enhance my
    chances here?



A few remarks which are (probably) important:



  1. Of course such a setting should benefit both people! I would like to contribute to her research, in a way that is useful to her too;

  2. The subject is purely theoretical and does not require lab/field work;

  3. I am moderately independent when it comes to research. (This means I can't produce original research by myself, but can write an introduction to this area).


*To prevent against any kind of bias I may have in making this judgment, I have explained my situation to a few people, who agreed this is indeed a(n unusually) good relationship.



**Near here means less than 2000 km (probably even more).










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Lately I have been developing a good relationship with Prof. Wright.



She has clearly* gone out of her way a few times to help me, having a very pleasant, generous, and kind personality. Prof. Wright is searching for students (in her university of course, undergraduate, Master, or PhD). I really like her research and would love to work in her area. However, there's no researcher working in the field anywhere near** my local university.




This brings the reason for this question: I have been thinking about
asking her if she could advise me.



  1. Is this unreasonable?

  2. If not, how unlikely is it for her to accept? (To make this practical: what would you do if you were in her shoes?)

  3. Is there a chance of this ruining our relationship? If yes, what can I do to make sure it won't ruin it?

  4. Finally, if I'm going to ask her to be my advisor, it won't (of course and unfortunately) be in person, which means email. What can I do to enhance my
    chances here?



A few remarks which are (probably) important:



  1. Of course such a setting should benefit both people! I would like to contribute to her research, in a way that is useful to her too;

  2. The subject is purely theoretical and does not require lab/field work;

  3. I am moderately independent when it comes to research. (This means I can't produce original research by myself, but can write an introduction to this area).


*To prevent against any kind of bias I may have in making this judgment, I have explained my situation to a few people, who agreed this is indeed a(n unusually) good relationship.



**Near here means less than 2000 km (probably even more).







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    What are you doing at your current university?

    – Azor Ahai
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  • Can you move???

    – JeffE
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    You might want to clarify if you are an undergraduate looking for research experience, or a graduate student seeking to complete a thesis or dissertation as a required part of your program, or a graduate student looking to expand your network of collaborators.

    – alerera
    6 hours ago











  • @AzorAhai, JeffE I can't move, as her university is in another continent. (At least for now, while I am an undergraduate. On the other hand, I want to apply to there when I go to graduate school; I'm also keeping an eye on opportunities for international study near her university)

    – A. P.
    4 hours ago











  • @alerera I am an undergraduate. (I have however been preparing to do research for the past few years, so hopefully I may be able to do original research with her, for this arrangement to benefit her too.)

    – A. P.
    4 hours ago













  • 1





    What are you doing at your current university?

    – Azor Ahai
    7 hours ago











  • Can you move???

    – JeffE
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    You might want to clarify if you are an undergraduate looking for research experience, or a graduate student seeking to complete a thesis or dissertation as a required part of your program, or a graduate student looking to expand your network of collaborators.

    – alerera
    6 hours ago











  • @AzorAhai, JeffE I can't move, as her university is in another continent. (At least for now, while I am an undergraduate. On the other hand, I want to apply to there when I go to graduate school; I'm also keeping an eye on opportunities for international study near her university)

    – A. P.
    4 hours ago











  • @alerera I am an undergraduate. (I have however been preparing to do research for the past few years, so hopefully I may be able to do original research with her, for this arrangement to benefit her too.)

    – A. P.
    4 hours ago








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What are you doing at your current university?

– Azor Ahai
7 hours ago





What are you doing at your current university?

– Azor Ahai
7 hours ago













Can you move???

– JeffE
6 hours ago





Can you move???

– JeffE
6 hours ago




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You might want to clarify if you are an undergraduate looking for research experience, or a graduate student seeking to complete a thesis or dissertation as a required part of your program, or a graduate student looking to expand your network of collaborators.

– alerera
6 hours ago





You might want to clarify if you are an undergraduate looking for research experience, or a graduate student seeking to complete a thesis or dissertation as a required part of your program, or a graduate student looking to expand your network of collaborators.

– alerera
6 hours ago













@AzorAhai, JeffE I can't move, as her university is in another continent. (At least for now, while I am an undergraduate. On the other hand, I want to apply to there when I go to graduate school; I'm also keeping an eye on opportunities for international study near her university)

– A. P.
4 hours ago





@AzorAhai, JeffE I can't move, as her university is in another continent. (At least for now, while I am an undergraduate. On the other hand, I want to apply to there when I go to graduate school; I'm also keeping an eye on opportunities for international study near her university)

– A. P.
4 hours ago













@alerera I am an undergraduate. (I have however been preparing to do research for the past few years, so hopefully I may be able to do original research with her, for this arrangement to benefit her too.)

– A. P.
4 hours ago






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It's probably not impossible, but distance isn't the only impediment. If you want her to be your formal advisor then you may need permission from both universities and they may need to work out some compensation, depending on the rules. This will be especially the case if she needs to formally approve (perhaps sign) your dissertation.



Distance is a problem of course, but with today's communication options it can be overcome in such a case. But you should also consider the possibility, even the necessity, of working face to face on occasion. One way to do this is through attendance at a conference with an extra day or so to work after or before the conference itself. There are other options, of course, including trying to get a small grant from somewhere to cover travel - either yours or hers.



But asking is certainly appropriate if you are willing to also work to obtain the necessary permissions and deal with the distance issue.



If she is to be only a secondary advisor it is a bit simpler, but needs the buy-in from your main advisor at your current place. This is easiest if the two know one another and are comfortable working together. But there may still be permission and compensation issues to deal with.



Make sure you know at the start everyone's expectations about joint authorship of anything you produce, of course.






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Since you have now added that you're an undergraduate, I think it's actually pretty unlikely she will agree.



A few issues:



  1. Advising people is hard; advising undergraduates is even harder; and doing that long-distance is basically impossible. Although, you haven't stated your field. Maybe it's easier in your field than mine, or in theory. Still, personally, I would never accept to tele-mentor someone, especially someone I hadn't met in person.


  2. In principle, she has a commitment to undergraduates at her university first, before those a continent away. If her department requires research credit (called "499" or "independent study" at my university), that's taking a slot away from one of their majors.


  3. If you are required to have a mentor in your department, they most likely won't accept an off-campus one.


Asking won't ruin your relationship, although it might make you seem a little out of touch with what's required from such a relationship.



I think your best bet is to find faculty at your current university who can be your mentor on paper (and can actually contribute!) but is open to working with the distant professor. Maybe you can ask her if she knows anyone in your department.



Collaborating with her now will certainly help you get into her group in graduate school! I'm sure she's happy to have someone excited about her work and wanting to work with her, but I think it's pretty unlikely she can/will do anything official for you.



(Like I said, I don't know your field, but I'm not sure if "but can write an introduction to this area" is "moderately independent.")






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    You should establish in what capacity you are hoping for the professor to "advise me". You mention that you are open to collaborating on a project to mutual benefit; that can encompass a lot of things, including not-for-degree-credit and/or unpaid. You should consider what parameters you would find acceptable in your present circumstances. You should also consider how you can show the professor (briefly) what you have to offer.



    If you are seeking for the professor to be involved in advising you for credit-bearing work at your own institution in a formal capacity, you should ask your course convenor or administrator about the procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor. It may not be a routine occurrence, but it does happen sometimes, for the reasons you have given, so explain that you have already corresponded with a professor about a specialist subject not covered at your own institution, and that you intend to approach her about acting as an external advisor/supervisor. Having ascertained your institution's procedures, you can then write to the professor asking if she would have the time to act as an external advisor/supervisor, giving a very brief outline of the credit requirements at your institution and its procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor.



    You have already made clear that, quite reasonably, you are not prepared/able to travel to another continent at this time. However, it is possible that the professor has plans to visit your continent, so an in-person meeting may still be a possibility (although do not bank on this -- a professor is likely to have a busy schedule when travelling overseas, and may not be able to make time to see an undergraduate).



    In order to avoid sounding demanding, I would include something to the effect of:




    Your feedback to date has been very useful to me, and I am hoping to pursue a project in interrogating postnihilism, as part of my final-year coursework for my degree of Bachelor of Arts in Futile Studies. Unfortunately, there are no specialists in postnihilism at my institution, so I am in the process of looking for an external advisor/supervisor. The degree requirements are quite flexible, so it could be a collaborative project with the advisor/supervisor. Is that something you might be able to do, or, if not, do you know any other postnihilists who might be up for a remote collaboration with a very junior research assistant? Ideally, I would like to work with you, but I realise you may be too busy, and you have, of course, already been enormously generous and helpful with your responses to my various research enquiries to date.







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      It's probably not impossible, but distance isn't the only impediment. If you want her to be your formal advisor then you may need permission from both universities and they may need to work out some compensation, depending on the rules. This will be especially the case if she needs to formally approve (perhaps sign) your dissertation.



      Distance is a problem of course, but with today's communication options it can be overcome in such a case. But you should also consider the possibility, even the necessity, of working face to face on occasion. One way to do this is through attendance at a conference with an extra day or so to work after or before the conference itself. There are other options, of course, including trying to get a small grant from somewhere to cover travel - either yours or hers.



      But asking is certainly appropriate if you are willing to also work to obtain the necessary permissions and deal with the distance issue.



      If she is to be only a secondary advisor it is a bit simpler, but needs the buy-in from your main advisor at your current place. This is easiest if the two know one another and are comfortable working together. But there may still be permission and compensation issues to deal with.



      Make sure you know at the start everyone's expectations about joint authorship of anything you produce, of course.






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      It's probably not impossible, but distance isn't the only impediment. If you want her to be your formal advisor then you may need permission from both universities and they may need to work out some compensation, depending on the rules. This will be especially the case if she needs to formally approve (perhaps sign) your dissertation.



      Distance is a problem of course, but with today's communication options it can be overcome in such a case. But you should also consider the possibility, even the necessity, of working face to face on occasion. One way to do this is through attendance at a conference with an extra day or so to work after or before the conference itself. There are other options, of course, including trying to get a small grant from somewhere to cover travel - either yours or hers.



      But asking is certainly appropriate if you are willing to also work to obtain the necessary permissions and deal with the distance issue.



      If she is to be only a secondary advisor it is a bit simpler, but needs the buy-in from your main advisor at your current place. This is easiest if the two know one another and are comfortable working together. But there may still be permission and compensation issues to deal with.



      Make sure you know at the start everyone's expectations about joint authorship of anything you produce, of course.






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      It's probably not impossible, but distance isn't the only impediment. If you want her to be your formal advisor then you may need permission from both universities and they may need to work out some compensation, depending on the rules. This will be especially the case if she needs to formally approve (perhaps sign) your dissertation.



      Distance is a problem of course, but with today's communication options it can be overcome in such a case. But you should also consider the possibility, even the necessity, of working face to face on occasion. One way to do this is through attendance at a conference with an extra day or so to work after or before the conference itself. There are other options, of course, including trying to get a small grant from somewhere to cover travel - either yours or hers.



      But asking is certainly appropriate if you are willing to also work to obtain the necessary permissions and deal with the distance issue.



      If she is to be only a secondary advisor it is a bit simpler, but needs the buy-in from your main advisor at your current place. This is easiest if the two know one another and are comfortable working together. But there may still be permission and compensation issues to deal with.



      Make sure you know at the start everyone's expectations about joint authorship of anything you produce, of course.






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      It's probably not impossible, but distance isn't the only impediment. If you want her to be your formal advisor then you may need permission from both universities and they may need to work out some compensation, depending on the rules. This will be especially the case if she needs to formally approve (perhaps sign) your dissertation.



      Distance is a problem of course, but with today's communication options it can be overcome in such a case. But you should also consider the possibility, even the necessity, of working face to face on occasion. One way to do this is through attendance at a conference with an extra day or so to work after or before the conference itself. There are other options, of course, including trying to get a small grant from somewhere to cover travel - either yours or hers.



      But asking is certainly appropriate if you are willing to also work to obtain the necessary permissions and deal with the distance issue.



      If she is to be only a secondary advisor it is a bit simpler, but needs the buy-in from your main advisor at your current place. This is easiest if the two know one another and are comfortable working together. But there may still be permission and compensation issues to deal with.



      Make sure you know at the start everyone's expectations about joint authorship of anything you produce, of course.







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      Since you have now added that you're an undergraduate, I think it's actually pretty unlikely she will agree.



      A few issues:



      1. Advising people is hard; advising undergraduates is even harder; and doing that long-distance is basically impossible. Although, you haven't stated your field. Maybe it's easier in your field than mine, or in theory. Still, personally, I would never accept to tele-mentor someone, especially someone I hadn't met in person.


      2. In principle, she has a commitment to undergraduates at her university first, before those a continent away. If her department requires research credit (called "499" or "independent study" at my university), that's taking a slot away from one of their majors.


      3. If you are required to have a mentor in your department, they most likely won't accept an off-campus one.


      Asking won't ruin your relationship, although it might make you seem a little out of touch with what's required from such a relationship.



      I think your best bet is to find faculty at your current university who can be your mentor on paper (and can actually contribute!) but is open to working with the distant professor. Maybe you can ask her if she knows anyone in your department.



      Collaborating with her now will certainly help you get into her group in graduate school! I'm sure she's happy to have someone excited about her work and wanting to work with her, but I think it's pretty unlikely she can/will do anything official for you.



      (Like I said, I don't know your field, but I'm not sure if "but can write an introduction to this area" is "moderately independent.")






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        Since you have now added that you're an undergraduate, I think it's actually pretty unlikely she will agree.



        A few issues:



        1. Advising people is hard; advising undergraduates is even harder; and doing that long-distance is basically impossible. Although, you haven't stated your field. Maybe it's easier in your field than mine, or in theory. Still, personally, I would never accept to tele-mentor someone, especially someone I hadn't met in person.


        2. In principle, she has a commitment to undergraduates at her university first, before those a continent away. If her department requires research credit (called "499" or "independent study" at my university), that's taking a slot away from one of their majors.


        3. If you are required to have a mentor in your department, they most likely won't accept an off-campus one.


        Asking won't ruin your relationship, although it might make you seem a little out of touch with what's required from such a relationship.



        I think your best bet is to find faculty at your current university who can be your mentor on paper (and can actually contribute!) but is open to working with the distant professor. Maybe you can ask her if she knows anyone in your department.



        Collaborating with her now will certainly help you get into her group in graduate school! I'm sure she's happy to have someone excited about her work and wanting to work with her, but I think it's pretty unlikely she can/will do anything official for you.



        (Like I said, I don't know your field, but I'm not sure if "but can write an introduction to this area" is "moderately independent.")






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          Since you have now added that you're an undergraduate, I think it's actually pretty unlikely she will agree.



          A few issues:



          1. Advising people is hard; advising undergraduates is even harder; and doing that long-distance is basically impossible. Although, you haven't stated your field. Maybe it's easier in your field than mine, or in theory. Still, personally, I would never accept to tele-mentor someone, especially someone I hadn't met in person.


          2. In principle, she has a commitment to undergraduates at her university first, before those a continent away. If her department requires research credit (called "499" or "independent study" at my university), that's taking a slot away from one of their majors.


          3. If you are required to have a mentor in your department, they most likely won't accept an off-campus one.


          Asking won't ruin your relationship, although it might make you seem a little out of touch with what's required from such a relationship.



          I think your best bet is to find faculty at your current university who can be your mentor on paper (and can actually contribute!) but is open to working with the distant professor. Maybe you can ask her if she knows anyone in your department.



          Collaborating with her now will certainly help you get into her group in graduate school! I'm sure she's happy to have someone excited about her work and wanting to work with her, but I think it's pretty unlikely she can/will do anything official for you.



          (Like I said, I don't know your field, but I'm not sure if "but can write an introduction to this area" is "moderately independent.")






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          Since you have now added that you're an undergraduate, I think it's actually pretty unlikely she will agree.



          A few issues:



          1. Advising people is hard; advising undergraduates is even harder; and doing that long-distance is basically impossible. Although, you haven't stated your field. Maybe it's easier in your field than mine, or in theory. Still, personally, I would never accept to tele-mentor someone, especially someone I hadn't met in person.


          2. In principle, she has a commitment to undergraduates at her university first, before those a continent away. If her department requires research credit (called "499" or "independent study" at my university), that's taking a slot away from one of their majors.


          3. If you are required to have a mentor in your department, they most likely won't accept an off-campus one.


          Asking won't ruin your relationship, although it might make you seem a little out of touch with what's required from such a relationship.



          I think your best bet is to find faculty at your current university who can be your mentor on paper (and can actually contribute!) but is open to working with the distant professor. Maybe you can ask her if she knows anyone in your department.



          Collaborating with her now will certainly help you get into her group in graduate school! I'm sure she's happy to have someone excited about her work and wanting to work with her, but I think it's pretty unlikely she can/will do anything official for you.



          (Like I said, I don't know your field, but I'm not sure if "but can write an introduction to this area" is "moderately independent.")







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              You should establish in what capacity you are hoping for the professor to "advise me". You mention that you are open to collaborating on a project to mutual benefit; that can encompass a lot of things, including not-for-degree-credit and/or unpaid. You should consider what parameters you would find acceptable in your present circumstances. You should also consider how you can show the professor (briefly) what you have to offer.



              If you are seeking for the professor to be involved in advising you for credit-bearing work at your own institution in a formal capacity, you should ask your course convenor or administrator about the procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor. It may not be a routine occurrence, but it does happen sometimes, for the reasons you have given, so explain that you have already corresponded with a professor about a specialist subject not covered at your own institution, and that you intend to approach her about acting as an external advisor/supervisor. Having ascertained your institution's procedures, you can then write to the professor asking if she would have the time to act as an external advisor/supervisor, giving a very brief outline of the credit requirements at your institution and its procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor.



              You have already made clear that, quite reasonably, you are not prepared/able to travel to another continent at this time. However, it is possible that the professor has plans to visit your continent, so an in-person meeting may still be a possibility (although do not bank on this -- a professor is likely to have a busy schedule when travelling overseas, and may not be able to make time to see an undergraduate).



              In order to avoid sounding demanding, I would include something to the effect of:




              Your feedback to date has been very useful to me, and I am hoping to pursue a project in interrogating postnihilism, as part of my final-year coursework for my degree of Bachelor of Arts in Futile Studies. Unfortunately, there are no specialists in postnihilism at my institution, so I am in the process of looking for an external advisor/supervisor. The degree requirements are quite flexible, so it could be a collaborative project with the advisor/supervisor. Is that something you might be able to do, or, if not, do you know any other postnihilists who might be up for a remote collaboration with a very junior research assistant? Ideally, I would like to work with you, but I realise you may be too busy, and you have, of course, already been enormously generous and helpful with your responses to my various research enquiries to date.







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                You should establish in what capacity you are hoping for the professor to "advise me". You mention that you are open to collaborating on a project to mutual benefit; that can encompass a lot of things, including not-for-degree-credit and/or unpaid. You should consider what parameters you would find acceptable in your present circumstances. You should also consider how you can show the professor (briefly) what you have to offer.



                If you are seeking for the professor to be involved in advising you for credit-bearing work at your own institution in a formal capacity, you should ask your course convenor or administrator about the procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor. It may not be a routine occurrence, but it does happen sometimes, for the reasons you have given, so explain that you have already corresponded with a professor about a specialist subject not covered at your own institution, and that you intend to approach her about acting as an external advisor/supervisor. Having ascertained your institution's procedures, you can then write to the professor asking if she would have the time to act as an external advisor/supervisor, giving a very brief outline of the credit requirements at your institution and its procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor.



                You have already made clear that, quite reasonably, you are not prepared/able to travel to another continent at this time. However, it is possible that the professor has plans to visit your continent, so an in-person meeting may still be a possibility (although do not bank on this -- a professor is likely to have a busy schedule when travelling overseas, and may not be able to make time to see an undergraduate).



                In order to avoid sounding demanding, I would include something to the effect of:




                Your feedback to date has been very useful to me, and I am hoping to pursue a project in interrogating postnihilism, as part of my final-year coursework for my degree of Bachelor of Arts in Futile Studies. Unfortunately, there are no specialists in postnihilism at my institution, so I am in the process of looking for an external advisor/supervisor. The degree requirements are quite flexible, so it could be a collaborative project with the advisor/supervisor. Is that something you might be able to do, or, if not, do you know any other postnihilists who might be up for a remote collaboration with a very junior research assistant? Ideally, I would like to work with you, but I realise you may be too busy, and you have, of course, already been enormously generous and helpful with your responses to my various research enquiries to date.







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                  You should establish in what capacity you are hoping for the professor to "advise me". You mention that you are open to collaborating on a project to mutual benefit; that can encompass a lot of things, including not-for-degree-credit and/or unpaid. You should consider what parameters you would find acceptable in your present circumstances. You should also consider how you can show the professor (briefly) what you have to offer.



                  If you are seeking for the professor to be involved in advising you for credit-bearing work at your own institution in a formal capacity, you should ask your course convenor or administrator about the procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor. It may not be a routine occurrence, but it does happen sometimes, for the reasons you have given, so explain that you have already corresponded with a professor about a specialist subject not covered at your own institution, and that you intend to approach her about acting as an external advisor/supervisor. Having ascertained your institution's procedures, you can then write to the professor asking if she would have the time to act as an external advisor/supervisor, giving a very brief outline of the credit requirements at your institution and its procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor.



                  You have already made clear that, quite reasonably, you are not prepared/able to travel to another continent at this time. However, it is possible that the professor has plans to visit your continent, so an in-person meeting may still be a possibility (although do not bank on this -- a professor is likely to have a busy schedule when travelling overseas, and may not be able to make time to see an undergraduate).



                  In order to avoid sounding demanding, I would include something to the effect of:




                  Your feedback to date has been very useful to me, and I am hoping to pursue a project in interrogating postnihilism, as part of my final-year coursework for my degree of Bachelor of Arts in Futile Studies. Unfortunately, there are no specialists in postnihilism at my institution, so I am in the process of looking for an external advisor/supervisor. The degree requirements are quite flexible, so it could be a collaborative project with the advisor/supervisor. Is that something you might be able to do, or, if not, do you know any other postnihilists who might be up for a remote collaboration with a very junior research assistant? Ideally, I would like to work with you, but I realise you may be too busy, and you have, of course, already been enormously generous and helpful with your responses to my various research enquiries to date.







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                  You should establish in what capacity you are hoping for the professor to "advise me". You mention that you are open to collaborating on a project to mutual benefit; that can encompass a lot of things, including not-for-degree-credit and/or unpaid. You should consider what parameters you would find acceptable in your present circumstances. You should also consider how you can show the professor (briefly) what you have to offer.



                  If you are seeking for the professor to be involved in advising you for credit-bearing work at your own institution in a formal capacity, you should ask your course convenor or administrator about the procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor. It may not be a routine occurrence, but it does happen sometimes, for the reasons you have given, so explain that you have already corresponded with a professor about a specialist subject not covered at your own institution, and that you intend to approach her about acting as an external advisor/supervisor. Having ascertained your institution's procedures, you can then write to the professor asking if she would have the time to act as an external advisor/supervisor, giving a very brief outline of the credit requirements at your institution and its procedures for appointing an external advisor/supervisor.



                  You have already made clear that, quite reasonably, you are not prepared/able to travel to another continent at this time. However, it is possible that the professor has plans to visit your continent, so an in-person meeting may still be a possibility (although do not bank on this -- a professor is likely to have a busy schedule when travelling overseas, and may not be able to make time to see an undergraduate).



                  In order to avoid sounding demanding, I would include something to the effect of:




                  Your feedback to date has been very useful to me, and I am hoping to pursue a project in interrogating postnihilism, as part of my final-year coursework for my degree of Bachelor of Arts in Futile Studies. Unfortunately, there are no specialists in postnihilism at my institution, so I am in the process of looking for an external advisor/supervisor. The degree requirements are quite flexible, so it could be a collaborative project with the advisor/supervisor. Is that something you might be able to do, or, if not, do you know any other postnihilists who might be up for a remote collaboration with a very junior research assistant? Ideally, I would like to work with you, but I realise you may be too busy, and you have, of course, already been enormously generous and helpful with your responses to my various research enquiries to date.








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