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Can a Horncaller control a Druid who is using Wild Shape?


How does wild shape interact with dominate beast?Is a druid in wild shape actually a beast?Does Elemental Wild Shape work like regular Wild Shape?Do fey spirits in the form of creatures from the Conjure Animal Spell count towards creatures one has seen for Wild Shape?How does wild shape interact with dominate beast?Can you wild shape into an animal that has a template applied?Can Polymorph be used to give a druid new Wild Shape forms?Is a druid a better combatant while in wild shape?Can a Circle of the Shepherd druid in Wild Shape still communicate with beasts using the Speech of the Woods feature?Can a druid Wild Shape into a Cranium Rat and use Telepathy?Can a Longtooth Shifter druid attack with a bonus action in Wild Shape?Can a multiclassed druid/rogue benefit from Expertise while in Wild Shape?






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In Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica there is an enemy, Horncaller, who has an interesting ability:




One with the Worldsoul. The horncaller chooses one beast it can see within 30 feet of it. If the beast can hear the horncaller, the beast uses its reaction to make one melee attack against a target that the horncaller can see.



Horncaller, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, pg. 253




According to the question linked at the bottom, it seems that a Druid using Wild Shape is in fact a Beast during that time. Can the horncaller force the Druid to use its reaction to attack an ally?



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In Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica there is an enemy, Horncaller, who has an interesting ability:




One with the Worldsoul. The horncaller chooses one beast it can see within 30 feet of it. If the beast can hear the horncaller, the beast uses its reaction to make one melee attack against a target that the horncaller can see.



Horncaller, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, pg. 253




According to the question linked at the bottom, it seems that a Druid using Wild Shape is in fact a Beast during that time. Can the horncaller force the Druid to use its reaction to attack an ally?



(Link for reference: Is a druid in wild shape actually a beast? )










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    – Nick Tydryszewski
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  • $begingroup$
    Mainly because three years worth of modules (since that post) might have cleared up whether the Druid Beasts can be targeted by "beast" spells. It is very possible that, although they are "beasts" there is a module/official book that says they cannot be targeted by "beast" targeting spells/abilities.
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In Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica there is an enemy, Horncaller, who has an interesting ability:




One with the Worldsoul. The horncaller chooses one beast it can see within 30 feet of it. If the beast can hear the horncaller, the beast uses its reaction to make one melee attack against a target that the horncaller can see.



Horncaller, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, pg. 253




According to the question linked at the bottom, it seems that a Druid using Wild Shape is in fact a Beast during that time. Can the horncaller force the Druid to use its reaction to attack an ally?



(Link for reference: Is a druid in wild shape actually a beast? )










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In Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica there is an enemy, Horncaller, who has an interesting ability:




One with the Worldsoul. The horncaller chooses one beast it can see within 30 feet of it. If the beast can hear the horncaller, the beast uses its reaction to make one melee attack against a target that the horncaller can see.



Horncaller, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, pg. 253




According to the question linked at the bottom, it seems that a Druid using Wild Shape is in fact a Beast during that time. Can the horncaller force the Druid to use its reaction to attack an ally?



(Link for reference: Is a druid in wild shape actually a beast? )







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    Mainly because three years worth of modules (since that post) might have cleared up whether the Druid Beasts can be targeted by "beast" spells. It is very possible that, although they are "beasts" there is a module/official book that says they cannot be targeted by "beast" targeting spells/abilities.
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Mainly because three years worth of modules (since that post) might have cleared up whether the Druid Beasts can be targeted by "beast" spells. It is very possible that, although they are "beasts" there is a module/official book that says they cannot be targeted by "beast" targeting spells/abilities.
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Your game statistics are replaced by the statistics of the beast, but you retain your alignment, personality, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores.




Creature type is part of a creature's statistics and thus the druid literally becomes a beast in wild shape form. And, because they are a beast, they are treated no different than "normal" beasts in any way.



Thus, the Horncaller ability would unambiguously affect a wild shaped druid since it targets "one beast it can see within 30 feet of it". And, as the ability does not make any specific restrictions, the druid can be forced to make an attack on an ally using it.






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    Your game statistics are replaced by the statistics of the beast, but you retain your alignment, personality, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores.




    Creature type is part of a creature's statistics and thus the druid literally becomes a beast in wild shape form. And, because they are a beast, they are treated no different than "normal" beasts in any way.



    Thus, the Horncaller ability would unambiguously affect a wild shaped druid since it targets "one beast it can see within 30 feet of it". And, as the ability does not make any specific restrictions, the druid can be forced to make an attack on an ally using it.






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      Your game statistics are replaced by the statistics of the beast, but you retain your alignment, personality, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores.




      Creature type is part of a creature's statistics and thus the druid literally becomes a beast in wild shape form. And, because they are a beast, they are treated no different than "normal" beasts in any way.



      Thus, the Horncaller ability would unambiguously affect a wild shaped druid since it targets "one beast it can see within 30 feet of it". And, as the ability does not make any specific restrictions, the druid can be forced to make an attack on an ally using it.






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        Creature type is part of a creature's statistics and thus the druid literally becomes a beast in wild shape form. And, because they are a beast, they are treated no different than "normal" beasts in any way.



        Thus, the Horncaller ability would unambiguously affect a wild shaped druid since it targets "one beast it can see within 30 feet of it". And, as the ability does not make any specific restrictions, the druid can be forced to make an attack on an ally using it.






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        Creature type is part of a creature's statistics and thus the druid literally becomes a beast in wild shape form. And, because they are a beast, they are treated no different than "normal" beasts in any way.



        Thus, the Horncaller ability would unambiguously affect a wild shaped druid since it targets "one beast it can see within 30 feet of it". And, as the ability does not make any specific restrictions, the druid can be forced to make an attack on an ally using it.







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