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In Mistborn, why can metal in people's bodies be affected by Allomancy sometimes?


Mistborn, Hero of Ages - The 'snapping' done by the mists reveals mistings. Of these, 1/16th burns Atium. Why 1/16th?How much can a feruchemist store in a metal mind?Mistborn- Why make money out of metal?In the original Mistborn Trilogy, why didn't anyone notice that aluminium was not affected by Allomancy?Why does Sazed say that there are only 2 metals left to discover? (Mistborn spoilers)Why don't Mistborn and Mistings get drunk/poisoned because of the alcohol?Does Metal have to be Hemalurgically charged for Ruin to control someone?Can Allomancers see metal behind themselves?Are Shades affected by emotional Allomancy?Can shard metal be affected by Allomancy?






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In the first Mistborn novel, it's explained that one key rule of Allomancy is that it can't affect metal in or attached to other people's bodies.



However, in The Hero of Ages, Vin seems to be able to do this:




"She Pushed outward with a sudden wave of power; Inquisitors were thrown back by their spikes." (pg. 650 in the paperback box set edition)




Does duralumin let Allomancers break this rule? If so, did I miss an explanation about this earlier on?










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In the first Mistborn novel, it's explained that one key rule of Allomancy is that it can't affect metal in or attached to other people's bodies.



However, in The Hero of Ages, Vin seems to be able to do this:




"She Pushed outward with a sudden wave of power; Inquisitors were thrown back by their spikes." (pg. 650 in the paperback box set edition)




Does duralumin let Allomancers break this rule? If so, did I miss an explanation about this earlier on?










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    This is definitely explained somewhere in the books.

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  • Yeah, I thought the spikes thing was really weird.

    – Stormblessed
    7 hours ago













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In the first Mistborn novel, it's explained that one key rule of Allomancy is that it can't affect metal in or attached to other people's bodies.



However, in The Hero of Ages, Vin seems to be able to do this:




"She Pushed outward with a sudden wave of power; Inquisitors were thrown back by their spikes." (pg. 650 in the paperback box set edition)




Does duralumin let Allomancers break this rule? If so, did I miss an explanation about this earlier on?










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In the first Mistborn novel, it's explained that one key rule of Allomancy is that it can't affect metal in or attached to other people's bodies.



However, in The Hero of Ages, Vin seems to be able to do this:




"She Pushed outward with a sudden wave of power; Inquisitors were thrown back by their spikes." (pg. 650 in the paperback box set edition)




Does duralumin let Allomancers break this rule? If so, did I miss an explanation about this earlier on?







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    This is definitely explained somewhere in the books.

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  • Yeah, I thought the spikes thing was really weird.

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    This is definitely explained somewhere in the books.

    – Rand al'Thor
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  • Yeah, I thought the spikes thing was really weird.

    – Stormblessed
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This is definitely explained somewhere in the books.

– Rand al'Thor
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This is definitely explained somewhere in the books.

– Rand al'Thor
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Yeah, I thought the spikes thing was really weird.

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Yeah, I thought the spikes thing was really weird.

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This Word of Brandon suggests that a persons innate investiture is what interferes with being able to affect metals inside of them.



However, you can overcome this if you're a strong enough Allomancer.



Vin is an extremely strong Allomancer, but, as strong as she was, she could only do it when using the mists to fuel her Allomancy. If I remember correctly, the instance you mentioned was just after Marsh pulled her earring, which allowed her to fully absorb the mists. See the spoilers below for another example.




She was able to pull the Lord Ruler's armbands (which were piercing him) once she drew in the mists in The Final Empire.







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    It's only possible with levels of super-allomancy, either being a double-burner (hemalurgic spike with the same power, that's how the Lord Ruler did it) or possessing a Splinter and using that. (A Splinter is the term for someone / something that directly holds a Shard's power - i.e. Vin when she burns the Mists.) There are theories that a Mistborn who burns Lerasium a second time would be able to do it, but that's never been confirmed. A normal allomancer, even a savant, would never be able to do it.



    I don't remember if that incident is before Vin removes her earring, if it is, than that's indeed the power of duralumin. If it's not, then that's just the Mists. Duralumin definetly does bend a few other rules, for instance it lets you Steelpush objects heavier than you are.






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      This Word of Brandon suggests that a persons innate investiture is what interferes with being able to affect metals inside of them.



      However, you can overcome this if you're a strong enough Allomancer.



      Vin is an extremely strong Allomancer, but, as strong as she was, she could only do it when using the mists to fuel her Allomancy. If I remember correctly, the instance you mentioned was just after Marsh pulled her earring, which allowed her to fully absorb the mists. See the spoilers below for another example.




      She was able to pull the Lord Ruler's armbands (which were piercing him) once she drew in the mists in The Final Empire.







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        This Word of Brandon suggests that a persons innate investiture is what interferes with being able to affect metals inside of them.



        However, you can overcome this if you're a strong enough Allomancer.



        Vin is an extremely strong Allomancer, but, as strong as she was, she could only do it when using the mists to fuel her Allomancy. If I remember correctly, the instance you mentioned was just after Marsh pulled her earring, which allowed her to fully absorb the mists. See the spoilers below for another example.




        She was able to pull the Lord Ruler's armbands (which were piercing him) once she drew in the mists in The Final Empire.







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          This Word of Brandon suggests that a persons innate investiture is what interferes with being able to affect metals inside of them.



          However, you can overcome this if you're a strong enough Allomancer.



          Vin is an extremely strong Allomancer, but, as strong as she was, she could only do it when using the mists to fuel her Allomancy. If I remember correctly, the instance you mentioned was just after Marsh pulled her earring, which allowed her to fully absorb the mists. See the spoilers below for another example.




          She was able to pull the Lord Ruler's armbands (which were piercing him) once she drew in the mists in The Final Empire.







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          This Word of Brandon suggests that a persons innate investiture is what interferes with being able to affect metals inside of them.



          However, you can overcome this if you're a strong enough Allomancer.



          Vin is an extremely strong Allomancer, but, as strong as she was, she could only do it when using the mists to fuel her Allomancy. If I remember correctly, the instance you mentioned was just after Marsh pulled her earring, which allowed her to fully absorb the mists. See the spoilers below for another example.




          She was able to pull the Lord Ruler's armbands (which were piercing him) once she drew in the mists in The Final Empire.








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              It's only possible with levels of super-allomancy, either being a double-burner (hemalurgic spike with the same power, that's how the Lord Ruler did it) or possessing a Splinter and using that. (A Splinter is the term for someone / something that directly holds a Shard's power - i.e. Vin when she burns the Mists.) There are theories that a Mistborn who burns Lerasium a second time would be able to do it, but that's never been confirmed. A normal allomancer, even a savant, would never be able to do it.



              I don't remember if that incident is before Vin removes her earring, if it is, than that's indeed the power of duralumin. If it's not, then that's just the Mists. Duralumin definetly does bend a few other rules, for instance it lets you Steelpush objects heavier than you are.






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                It's only possible with levels of super-allomancy, either being a double-burner (hemalurgic spike with the same power, that's how the Lord Ruler did it) or possessing a Splinter and using that. (A Splinter is the term for someone / something that directly holds a Shard's power - i.e. Vin when she burns the Mists.) There are theories that a Mistborn who burns Lerasium a second time would be able to do it, but that's never been confirmed. A normal allomancer, even a savant, would never be able to do it.



                I don't remember if that incident is before Vin removes her earring, if it is, than that's indeed the power of duralumin. If it's not, then that's just the Mists. Duralumin definetly does bend a few other rules, for instance it lets you Steelpush objects heavier than you are.






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                  It's only possible with levels of super-allomancy, either being a double-burner (hemalurgic spike with the same power, that's how the Lord Ruler did it) or possessing a Splinter and using that. (A Splinter is the term for someone / something that directly holds a Shard's power - i.e. Vin when she burns the Mists.) There are theories that a Mistborn who burns Lerasium a second time would be able to do it, but that's never been confirmed. A normal allomancer, even a savant, would never be able to do it.



                  I don't remember if that incident is before Vin removes her earring, if it is, than that's indeed the power of duralumin. If it's not, then that's just the Mists. Duralumin definetly does bend a few other rules, for instance it lets you Steelpush objects heavier than you are.






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                  It's only possible with levels of super-allomancy, either being a double-burner (hemalurgic spike with the same power, that's how the Lord Ruler did it) or possessing a Splinter and using that. (A Splinter is the term for someone / something that directly holds a Shard's power - i.e. Vin when she burns the Mists.) There are theories that a Mistborn who burns Lerasium a second time would be able to do it, but that's never been confirmed. A normal allomancer, even a savant, would never be able to do it.



                  I don't remember if that incident is before Vin removes her earring, if it is, than that's indeed the power of duralumin. If it's not, then that's just the Mists. Duralumin definetly does bend a few other rules, for instance it lets you Steelpush objects heavier than you are.







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