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PDF vs. PNG figure: why does figure load so much faster even if file sizes are the same?


Problem with positioning a figure environment inside resizeboxChoosing whether to include PDF or PNG in PDFLaTeXInserting .pdf created in Visio to LaTeX without whitespacePDF-format causes figure to be moved to end of chapterReplicating figure in another document with same numberingWhy do my PDF figures in PDFTeX look bad in print?preserving pixel resolution when converting to PDFMatplotlib PDF figures blurry when printedIncluded PDF vector is missing objectsThin Lines from PDF Figure in Latex get thicker when exported to final PDF













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I have some figures I'm making that consist of tens of thousands of points. The PDF version of one of these figures is 1.1 MB, while the PNG version is 1.3 MB (both figures generated with the matplotlib module of Python). I have dpi set to 400 for my PNG, overkill relative to the standard I know but I wanted to keep good resolution even if people zoom in on it.



Since the PDF version of the figure is slightly smaller, I figured that would be better to use as far as document load time is concerned. However, in my compiled document (compiled with pdflatex), the slightly larger PNG version of the figure appears virtually instantly, while it takes several seconds for the PDF version of the figure to load in the document.



Why is it that the smaller PDF figure takes so much longer to load?










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    I have some figures I'm making that consist of tens of thousands of points. The PDF version of one of these figures is 1.1 MB, while the PNG version is 1.3 MB (both figures generated with the matplotlib module of Python). I have dpi set to 400 for my PNG, overkill relative to the standard I know but I wanted to keep good resolution even if people zoom in on it.



    Since the PDF version of the figure is slightly smaller, I figured that would be better to use as far as document load time is concerned. However, in my compiled document (compiled with pdflatex), the slightly larger PNG version of the figure appears virtually instantly, while it takes several seconds for the PDF version of the figure to load in the document.



    Why is it that the smaller PDF figure takes so much longer to load?










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      I have some figures I'm making that consist of tens of thousands of points. The PDF version of one of these figures is 1.1 MB, while the PNG version is 1.3 MB (both figures generated with the matplotlib module of Python). I have dpi set to 400 for my PNG, overkill relative to the standard I know but I wanted to keep good resolution even if people zoom in on it.



      Since the PDF version of the figure is slightly smaller, I figured that would be better to use as far as document load time is concerned. However, in my compiled document (compiled with pdflatex), the slightly larger PNG version of the figure appears virtually instantly, while it takes several seconds for the PDF version of the figure to load in the document.



      Why is it that the smaller PDF figure takes so much longer to load?










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      I have some figures I'm making that consist of tens of thousands of points. The PDF version of one of these figures is 1.1 MB, while the PNG version is 1.3 MB (both figures generated with the matplotlib module of Python). I have dpi set to 400 for my PNG, overkill relative to the standard I know but I wanted to keep good resolution even if people zoom in on it.



      Since the PDF version of the figure is slightly smaller, I figured that would be better to use as far as document load time is concerned. However, in my compiled document (compiled with pdflatex), the slightly larger PNG version of the figure appears virtually instantly, while it takes several seconds for the PDF version of the figure to load in the document.



      Why is it that the smaller PDF figure takes so much longer to load?







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          This is not really a LaTeX question but simply the difference between vector graphics (pdf) and raster ones (png, jpg, etc.).



          a raster graphics although it can be large is a simple object to display. It is only an X by Y image irrespective of what the image contains, and that it.



          A vector graphic can be extremely complex, consisting of many object that the viewer needs to draw one at a time.



          In your case, you have a vector graphic with 10,000s of objects which individually needs to be drawn. These objects can be dots, lines, curves, colour blocks, text which also include the font, etc... This will take a very long time. You might be able to make it faster by optimising the pdf but you will still have 10,000s of objects to draw.






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            Just as supplement: The pdf inclusion is faster because the engine only needs to copy the PDF stream into the final PDF. For PNG there needs to be a conversion.

            – TeXnician
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          • @KJO I referred to the compile time. That's why I called it a supplement. The viewer perspective is nicely covered by this answer.

            – TeXnician
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          • @TeXnician agreed as a supplement to the answer it is relevant to the compile/compression this comment will self destruct eventually :-)

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          This is not really a LaTeX question but simply the difference between vector graphics (pdf) and raster ones (png, jpg, etc.).



          a raster graphics although it can be large is a simple object to display. It is only an X by Y image irrespective of what the image contains, and that it.



          A vector graphic can be extremely complex, consisting of many object that the viewer needs to draw one at a time.



          In your case, you have a vector graphic with 10,000s of objects which individually needs to be drawn. These objects can be dots, lines, curves, colour blocks, text which also include the font, etc... This will take a very long time. You might be able to make it faster by optimising the pdf but you will still have 10,000s of objects to draw.






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            Just as supplement: The pdf inclusion is faster because the engine only needs to copy the PDF stream into the final PDF. For PNG there needs to be a conversion.

            – TeXnician
            7 hours ago











          • @KJO I referred to the compile time. That's why I called it a supplement. The viewer perspective is nicely covered by this answer.

            – TeXnician
            2 hours ago











          • @TeXnician agreed as a supplement to the answer it is relevant to the compile/compression this comment will self destruct eventually :-)

            – KJO
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          This is not really a LaTeX question but simply the difference between vector graphics (pdf) and raster ones (png, jpg, etc.).



          a raster graphics although it can be large is a simple object to display. It is only an X by Y image irrespective of what the image contains, and that it.



          A vector graphic can be extremely complex, consisting of many object that the viewer needs to draw one at a time.



          In your case, you have a vector graphic with 10,000s of objects which individually needs to be drawn. These objects can be dots, lines, curves, colour blocks, text which also include the font, etc... This will take a very long time. You might be able to make it faster by optimising the pdf but you will still have 10,000s of objects to draw.






          share|improve this answer




















          • 3





            Just as supplement: The pdf inclusion is faster because the engine only needs to copy the PDF stream into the final PDF. For PNG there needs to be a conversion.

            – TeXnician
            7 hours ago











          • @KJO I referred to the compile time. That's why I called it a supplement. The viewer perspective is nicely covered by this answer.

            – TeXnician
            2 hours ago











          • @TeXnician agreed as a supplement to the answer it is relevant to the compile/compression this comment will self destruct eventually :-)

            – KJO
            1 hour ago













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          This is not really a LaTeX question but simply the difference between vector graphics (pdf) and raster ones (png, jpg, etc.).



          a raster graphics although it can be large is a simple object to display. It is only an X by Y image irrespective of what the image contains, and that it.



          A vector graphic can be extremely complex, consisting of many object that the viewer needs to draw one at a time.



          In your case, you have a vector graphic with 10,000s of objects which individually needs to be drawn. These objects can be dots, lines, curves, colour blocks, text which also include the font, etc... This will take a very long time. You might be able to make it faster by optimising the pdf but you will still have 10,000s of objects to draw.






          share|improve this answer















          This is not really a LaTeX question but simply the difference between vector graphics (pdf) and raster ones (png, jpg, etc.).



          a raster graphics although it can be large is a simple object to display. It is only an X by Y image irrespective of what the image contains, and that it.



          A vector graphic can be extremely complex, consisting of many object that the viewer needs to draw one at a time.



          In your case, you have a vector graphic with 10,000s of objects which individually needs to be drawn. These objects can be dots, lines, curves, colour blocks, text which also include the font, etc... This will take a very long time. You might be able to make it faster by optimising the pdf but you will still have 10,000s of objects to draw.







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            Just as supplement: The pdf inclusion is faster because the engine only needs to copy the PDF stream into the final PDF. For PNG there needs to be a conversion.

            – TeXnician
            7 hours ago











          • @KJO I referred to the compile time. That's why I called it a supplement. The viewer perspective is nicely covered by this answer.

            – TeXnician
            2 hours ago











          • @TeXnician agreed as a supplement to the answer it is relevant to the compile/compression this comment will self destruct eventually :-)

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            Just as supplement: The pdf inclusion is faster because the engine only needs to copy the PDF stream into the final PDF. For PNG there needs to be a conversion.

            – TeXnician
            7 hours ago











          • @KJO I referred to the compile time. That's why I called it a supplement. The viewer perspective is nicely covered by this answer.

            – TeXnician
            2 hours ago











          • @TeXnician agreed as a supplement to the answer it is relevant to the compile/compression this comment will self destruct eventually :-)

            – KJO
            1 hour ago







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          Just as supplement: The pdf inclusion is faster because the engine only needs to copy the PDF stream into the final PDF. For PNG there needs to be a conversion.

          – TeXnician
          7 hours ago





          Just as supplement: The pdf inclusion is faster because the engine only needs to copy the PDF stream into the final PDF. For PNG there needs to be a conversion.

          – TeXnician
          7 hours ago













          @KJO I referred to the compile time. That's why I called it a supplement. The viewer perspective is nicely covered by this answer.

          – TeXnician
          2 hours ago





          @KJO I referred to the compile time. That's why I called it a supplement. The viewer perspective is nicely covered by this answer.

          – TeXnician
          2 hours ago













          @TeXnician agreed as a supplement to the answer it is relevant to the compile/compression this comment will self destruct eventually :-)

          – KJO
          1 hour ago





          @TeXnician agreed as a supplement to the answer it is relevant to the compile/compression this comment will self destruct eventually :-)

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