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Why would a propellor have blades of different lengths?


Are there design differences between propellers powered by air (wind-power) and propellers for aviation?Why don't helicopter blades look like other propellers?Why don't aeroplanes use propellers with more blades like the intake on a fanjet?How do the propeller blades accelerate air resulting in thrust to push an aircraft forward?Can noise from contra-rotating propellers be reduced by having a different number of blades on each propeller?Why are there different number of propeller blades on the inboard and outboard engines?In what way are the airfoils used for a propeller different from the ones used in turbofan engine?Why divide the blades of a 9 blade propeller into 3 groups?Propeller Characteristics at Different AltitudesWould a ringed propeller have any advantage over a standard propeller?













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The Schempp-Hirth Duo Discus T powered glider has a five-bladed propeller, with blades of different lengths.



What is the purpose of such an arrangement?










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    Link? PS there is such a thing as a one-bladed prop with a counterbalance. Is there any counterbalance present anywhere on the prop you are speaking of?
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    Going by the results of a simple image search, they look the same length. Unless you have a link to an image showing different lengths, I challenge the premise of this question.
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    ditto-- I suspect there is a parallax issue with the image he was looking at
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    They look to me of the same length (google.com/…)
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The Schempp-Hirth Duo Discus T powered glider has a five-bladed propeller, with blades of different lengths.



What is the purpose of such an arrangement?










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  • $begingroup$
    Link? PS there is such a thing as a one-bladed prop with a counterbalance. Is there any counterbalance present anywhere on the prop you are speaking of?
    $endgroup$
    – quiet flyer
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Going by the results of a simple image search, they look the same length. Unless you have a link to an image showing different lengths, I challenge the premise of this question.
    $endgroup$
    – AEhere
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    ditto-- I suspect there is a parallax issue with the image he was looking at
    $endgroup$
    – quiet flyer
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    They look to me of the same length (google.com/…)
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    – Trebia Project.
    6 hours ago













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The Schempp-Hirth Duo Discus T powered glider has a five-bladed propeller, with blades of different lengths.



What is the purpose of such an arrangement?










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The Schempp-Hirth Duo Discus T powered glider has a five-bladed propeller, with blades of different lengths.



What is the purpose of such an arrangement?







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  • $begingroup$
    Link? PS there is such a thing as a one-bladed prop with a counterbalance. Is there any counterbalance present anywhere on the prop you are speaking of?
    $endgroup$
    – quiet flyer
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Going by the results of a simple image search, they look the same length. Unless you have a link to an image showing different lengths, I challenge the premise of this question.
    $endgroup$
    – AEhere
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    ditto-- I suspect there is a parallax issue with the image he was looking at
    $endgroup$
    – quiet flyer
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    They look to me of the same length (google.com/…)
    $endgroup$
    – Trebia Project.
    6 hours ago
















  • $begingroup$
    Link? PS there is such a thing as a one-bladed prop with a counterbalance. Is there any counterbalance present anywhere on the prop you are speaking of?
    $endgroup$
    – quiet flyer
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Going by the results of a simple image search, they look the same length. Unless you have a link to an image showing different lengths, I challenge the premise of this question.
    $endgroup$
    – AEhere
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    ditto-- I suspect there is a parallax issue with the image he was looking at
    $endgroup$
    – quiet flyer
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    They look to me of the same length (google.com/…)
    $endgroup$
    – Trebia Project.
    6 hours ago















$begingroup$
Link? PS there is such a thing as a one-bladed prop with a counterbalance. Is there any counterbalance present anywhere on the prop you are speaking of?
$endgroup$
– quiet flyer
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
Link? PS there is such a thing as a one-bladed prop with a counterbalance. Is there any counterbalance present anywhere on the prop you are speaking of?
$endgroup$
– quiet flyer
8 hours ago












$begingroup$
Going by the results of a simple image search, they look the same length. Unless you have a link to an image showing different lengths, I challenge the premise of this question.
$endgroup$
– AEhere
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
Going by the results of a simple image search, they look the same length. Unless you have a link to an image showing different lengths, I challenge the premise of this question.
$endgroup$
– AEhere
7 hours ago












$begingroup$
ditto-- I suspect there is a parallax issue with the image he was looking at
$endgroup$
– quiet flyer
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
ditto-- I suspect there is a parallax issue with the image he was looking at
$endgroup$
– quiet flyer
7 hours ago












$begingroup$
They look to me of the same length (google.com/…)
$endgroup$
– Trebia Project.
6 hours ago




$begingroup$
They look to me of the same length (google.com/…)
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– Trebia Project.
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You are right. They are unequal length blades. Schempp refers to the propeller as being "noise optimized" and you can see that the blades are free to flap (forward) like helicopter blades (which flap up) so that the asymmetric thrust axis from having the propeller disc offset from the rotational axis doesn't place bending loads on the hub. And obviously, the blades will be mass balanced to place the center of gravity at the hub axis.



I'll go out on a limb here and say that some genius figured out a way to reduce the horrific noise level caused by such a small propeller by having the blade tips each run in a slightly different path of rotation. Brilliant.



enter image description here



And here it is in action where the eccentric blade disc can be clearly seen.






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    May have something to do with unequal blades cancelling, rather than reinforcing, sound waves. Great answer and pic.
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    – Robert DiGiovanni
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    They look like they are also unevenly spaced around the hub, which is a known technique to reduce noise. escholarship.org/content/qt9q75v9t9/qt9q75v9t9.pdf
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    – MikeY
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    @MikeY now that you mention it, yeah it's obvious when you look carefully.
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You are right. They are unequal length blades. Schempp refers to the propeller as being "noise optimized" and you can see that the blades are free to flap (forward) like helicopter blades (which flap up) so that the asymmetric thrust axis from having the propeller disc offset from the rotational axis doesn't place bending loads on the hub. And obviously, the blades will be mass balanced to place the center of gravity at the hub axis.



I'll go out on a limb here and say that some genius figured out a way to reduce the horrific noise level caused by such a small propeller by having the blade tips each run in a slightly different path of rotation. Brilliant.



enter image description here



And here it is in action where the eccentric blade disc can be clearly seen.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    May have something to do with unequal blades cancelling, rather than reinforcing, sound waves. Great answer and pic.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert DiGiovanni
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    They look like they are also unevenly spaced around the hub, which is a known technique to reduce noise. escholarship.org/content/qt9q75v9t9/qt9q75v9t9.pdf
    $endgroup$
    – MikeY
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @MikeY now that you mention it, yeah it's obvious when you look carefully.
    $endgroup$
    – John K
    4 hours ago















5












$begingroup$

You are right. They are unequal length blades. Schempp refers to the propeller as being "noise optimized" and you can see that the blades are free to flap (forward) like helicopter blades (which flap up) so that the asymmetric thrust axis from having the propeller disc offset from the rotational axis doesn't place bending loads on the hub. And obviously, the blades will be mass balanced to place the center of gravity at the hub axis.



I'll go out on a limb here and say that some genius figured out a way to reduce the horrific noise level caused by such a small propeller by having the blade tips each run in a slightly different path of rotation. Brilliant.



enter image description here



And here it is in action where the eccentric blade disc can be clearly seen.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    May have something to do with unequal blades cancelling, rather than reinforcing, sound waves. Great answer and pic.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert DiGiovanni
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    They look like they are also unevenly spaced around the hub, which is a known technique to reduce noise. escholarship.org/content/qt9q75v9t9/qt9q75v9t9.pdf
    $endgroup$
    – MikeY
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @MikeY now that you mention it, yeah it's obvious when you look carefully.
    $endgroup$
    – John K
    4 hours ago













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$begingroup$

You are right. They are unequal length blades. Schempp refers to the propeller as being "noise optimized" and you can see that the blades are free to flap (forward) like helicopter blades (which flap up) so that the asymmetric thrust axis from having the propeller disc offset from the rotational axis doesn't place bending loads on the hub. And obviously, the blades will be mass balanced to place the center of gravity at the hub axis.



I'll go out on a limb here and say that some genius figured out a way to reduce the horrific noise level caused by such a small propeller by having the blade tips each run in a slightly different path of rotation. Brilliant.



enter image description here



And here it is in action where the eccentric blade disc can be clearly seen.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



You are right. They are unequal length blades. Schempp refers to the propeller as being "noise optimized" and you can see that the blades are free to flap (forward) like helicopter blades (which flap up) so that the asymmetric thrust axis from having the propeller disc offset from the rotational axis doesn't place bending loads on the hub. And obviously, the blades will be mass balanced to place the center of gravity at the hub axis.



I'll go out on a limb here and say that some genius figured out a way to reduce the horrific noise level caused by such a small propeller by having the blade tips each run in a slightly different path of rotation. Brilliant.



enter image description here



And here it is in action where the eccentric blade disc can be clearly seen.







share|improve this answer














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  • $begingroup$
    May have something to do with unequal blades cancelling, rather than reinforcing, sound waves. Great answer and pic.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert DiGiovanni
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    They look like they are also unevenly spaced around the hub, which is a known technique to reduce noise. escholarship.org/content/qt9q75v9t9/qt9q75v9t9.pdf
    $endgroup$
    – MikeY
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @MikeY now that you mention it, yeah it's obvious when you look carefully.
    $endgroup$
    – John K
    4 hours ago
















  • $begingroup$
    May have something to do with unequal blades cancelling, rather than reinforcing, sound waves. Great answer and pic.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert DiGiovanni
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    They look like they are also unevenly spaced around the hub, which is a known technique to reduce noise. escholarship.org/content/qt9q75v9t9/qt9q75v9t9.pdf
    $endgroup$
    – MikeY
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @MikeY now that you mention it, yeah it's obvious when you look carefully.
    $endgroup$
    – John K
    4 hours ago















$begingroup$
May have something to do with unequal blades cancelling, rather than reinforcing, sound waves. Great answer and pic.
$endgroup$
– Robert DiGiovanni
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
May have something to do with unequal blades cancelling, rather than reinforcing, sound waves. Great answer and pic.
$endgroup$
– Robert DiGiovanni
5 hours ago












$begingroup$
They look like they are also unevenly spaced around the hub, which is a known technique to reduce noise. escholarship.org/content/qt9q75v9t9/qt9q75v9t9.pdf
$endgroup$
– MikeY
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
They look like they are also unevenly spaced around the hub, which is a known technique to reduce noise. escholarship.org/content/qt9q75v9t9/qt9q75v9t9.pdf
$endgroup$
– MikeY
4 hours ago












$begingroup$
@MikeY now that you mention it, yeah it's obvious when you look carefully.
$endgroup$
– John K
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
@MikeY now that you mention it, yeah it's obvious when you look carefully.
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– John K
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