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Is it rude to refer to janitors as 'floor people'?


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I came into the office today and the first thing my manager asked me was is if I saw the 'floor people' while I was walking through the building. The reason he asked me this was because he had put in a request last week for our janitors to mop up and then re-wax the tile floor in our area this morning.



I told him that I thought it was rude to refer to them as 'floor people' but he disagreed and said there was nothing wrong with using this alias.



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    where are you from? where is your boss from? This may be a matter of translation/regional lingo issue.

    – Crosscounter
    8 hours ago











  • We are both from Ohio. I personally have never heard of anyone calling janitors/custodians 'floor people', but maybe they are called this in other parts of the United States or elsewhere?

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    "Is it rude" depends on quite a lot—tone of voice, conventional terminology in your circles for other kinds of service workers, your locale. Outside of any context, I don't understand why you would see a problem with it (native AmE speaker).

    – choster
    8 hours ago






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    floor staff can be used to refer to customer service/front facing employees who are "on the floor" (among customers in a store, restaurant, as opposed to people working in the backoffice) - not referring to janitors. I don't think it is common to use floor people. It would not be suitable if your boss were to use this in an official setting, e.g. in a meeting or announcement.

    – Crosscounter
    8 hours ago












  • Note that, since we care about perceived rudeness and prestige in this question, the term 'janitor' is not as popular anymore and 'custodian' is preferred. Also, you need to explain exactly why you think 'floor people' is rude.

    – Mitch
    7 hours ago

















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I came into the office today and the first thing my manager asked me was is if I saw the 'floor people' while I was walking through the building. The reason he asked me this was because he had put in a request last week for our janitors to mop up and then re-wax the tile floor in our area this morning.



I told him that I thought it was rude to refer to them as 'floor people' but he disagreed and said there was nothing wrong with using this alias.



Is it rude to refer to janitors as 'floor people'?










share|improve this question

















  • 1





    where are you from? where is your boss from? This may be a matter of translation/regional lingo issue.

    – Crosscounter
    8 hours ago











  • We are both from Ohio. I personally have never heard of anyone calling janitors/custodians 'floor people', but maybe they are called this in other parts of the United States or elsewhere?

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    "Is it rude" depends on quite a lot—tone of voice, conventional terminology in your circles for other kinds of service workers, your locale. Outside of any context, I don't understand why you would see a problem with it (native AmE speaker).

    – choster
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    floor staff can be used to refer to customer service/front facing employees who are "on the floor" (among customers in a store, restaurant, as opposed to people working in the backoffice) - not referring to janitors. I don't think it is common to use floor people. It would not be suitable if your boss were to use this in an official setting, e.g. in a meeting or announcement.

    – Crosscounter
    8 hours ago












  • Note that, since we care about perceived rudeness and prestige in this question, the term 'janitor' is not as popular anymore and 'custodian' is preferred. Also, you need to explain exactly why you think 'floor people' is rude.

    – Mitch
    7 hours ago













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I came into the office today and the first thing my manager asked me was is if I saw the 'floor people' while I was walking through the building. The reason he asked me this was because he had put in a request last week for our janitors to mop up and then re-wax the tile floor in our area this morning.



I told him that I thought it was rude to refer to them as 'floor people' but he disagreed and said there was nothing wrong with using this alias.



Is it rude to refer to janitors as 'floor people'?










share|improve this question














I came into the office today and the first thing my manager asked me was is if I saw the 'floor people' while I was walking through the building. The reason he asked me this was because he had put in a request last week for our janitors to mop up and then re-wax the tile floor in our area this morning.



I told him that I thought it was rude to refer to them as 'floor people' but he disagreed and said there was nothing wrong with using this alias.



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    where are you from? where is your boss from? This may be a matter of translation/regional lingo issue.

    – Crosscounter
    8 hours ago











  • We are both from Ohio. I personally have never heard of anyone calling janitors/custodians 'floor people', but maybe they are called this in other parts of the United States or elsewhere?

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    "Is it rude" depends on quite a lot—tone of voice, conventional terminology in your circles for other kinds of service workers, your locale. Outside of any context, I don't understand why you would see a problem with it (native AmE speaker).

    – choster
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    floor staff can be used to refer to customer service/front facing employees who are "on the floor" (among customers in a store, restaurant, as opposed to people working in the backoffice) - not referring to janitors. I don't think it is common to use floor people. It would not be suitable if your boss were to use this in an official setting, e.g. in a meeting or announcement.

    – Crosscounter
    8 hours ago












  • Note that, since we care about perceived rudeness and prestige in this question, the term 'janitor' is not as popular anymore and 'custodian' is preferred. Also, you need to explain exactly why you think 'floor people' is rude.

    – Mitch
    7 hours ago












  • 1





    where are you from? where is your boss from? This may be a matter of translation/regional lingo issue.

    – Crosscounter
    8 hours ago











  • We are both from Ohio. I personally have never heard of anyone calling janitors/custodians 'floor people', but maybe they are called this in other parts of the United States or elsewhere?

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    "Is it rude" depends on quite a lot—tone of voice, conventional terminology in your circles for other kinds of service workers, your locale. Outside of any context, I don't understand why you would see a problem with it (native AmE speaker).

    – choster
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    floor staff can be used to refer to customer service/front facing employees who are "on the floor" (among customers in a store, restaurant, as opposed to people working in the backoffice) - not referring to janitors. I don't think it is common to use floor people. It would not be suitable if your boss were to use this in an official setting, e.g. in a meeting or announcement.

    – Crosscounter
    8 hours ago












  • Note that, since we care about perceived rudeness and prestige in this question, the term 'janitor' is not as popular anymore and 'custodian' is preferred. Also, you need to explain exactly why you think 'floor people' is rude.

    – Mitch
    7 hours ago







1




1





where are you from? where is your boss from? This may be a matter of translation/regional lingo issue.

– Crosscounter
8 hours ago





where are you from? where is your boss from? This may be a matter of translation/regional lingo issue.

– Crosscounter
8 hours ago













We are both from Ohio. I personally have never heard of anyone calling janitors/custodians 'floor people', but maybe they are called this in other parts of the United States or elsewhere?

– HRIATEXP
8 hours ago





We are both from Ohio. I personally have never heard of anyone calling janitors/custodians 'floor people', but maybe they are called this in other parts of the United States or elsewhere?

– HRIATEXP
8 hours ago




3




3





"Is it rude" depends on quite a lot—tone of voice, conventional terminology in your circles for other kinds of service workers, your locale. Outside of any context, I don't understand why you would see a problem with it (native AmE speaker).

– choster
8 hours ago





"Is it rude" depends on quite a lot—tone of voice, conventional terminology in your circles for other kinds of service workers, your locale. Outside of any context, I don't understand why you would see a problem with it (native AmE speaker).

– choster
8 hours ago




3




3





floor staff can be used to refer to customer service/front facing employees who are "on the floor" (among customers in a store, restaurant, as opposed to people working in the backoffice) - not referring to janitors. I don't think it is common to use floor people. It would not be suitable if your boss were to use this in an official setting, e.g. in a meeting or announcement.

– Crosscounter
8 hours ago






floor staff can be used to refer to customer service/front facing employees who are "on the floor" (among customers in a store, restaurant, as opposed to people working in the backoffice) - not referring to janitors. I don't think it is common to use floor people. It would not be suitable if your boss were to use this in an official setting, e.g. in a meeting or announcement.

– Crosscounter
8 hours ago














Note that, since we care about perceived rudeness and prestige in this question, the term 'janitor' is not as popular anymore and 'custodian' is preferred. Also, you need to explain exactly why you think 'floor people' is rude.

– Mitch
7 hours ago





Note that, since we care about perceived rudeness and prestige in this question, the term 'janitor' is not as popular anymore and 'custodian' is preferred. Also, you need to explain exactly why you think 'floor people' is rude.

– Mitch
7 hours ago










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This may be subtle and comes down to inflection and intention. I suspect that your manager was not being rude but trying to refer succinctly to a particular trade.



If you were talking about a construction site you might talk about the "concrete people" or the "drywall people" to refer to the particular trades that were expert in those parts of the project. Those trades may have more precise professional nomenclature to them, but to an outsider it may be a useful shorthand that identifies the work without knowing the terminology. If your manager was talking about waxing the floor-- which is a skilled task that may also imply something beyond a regular custodial service-- then presumably he was using "floor people" as a shorthand for that skill.



You could, of course, also intend this phrase to be a form of deliberate (and surprisingly poetic!) put-down pun by using the physically "low" location of a floor as a metaphor for class or status. I don't know you or your manager but most people aren't jerks by default.






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  • I see what you're saying. I'm someone who strongly believes that you always refer to people by their official job title, yet perhaps I'm being too over-sensitive to what my manager chooses to view them as.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    I would say that usually "floor people" would not refer to janitors in general, but specifically to people who work with floors, typically flooring installers/salesmen. But since the boss had specifically requested a floor maintenance ticket, he's more or less referring to whoever is supposed to come and work on the floor.

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It depends on the implication. If you assume "floor" to be a metaphor for "the lowest strata" or "beneath my feet" then certainly, it's derogatory.



However, I don't think this was your manager's intention. Instead, in his question, "floor people" is an ellipsis of




the people whose job it is to clean the floor




This use is much the same as saying "the printer guy" or "the cleaning lady", and so it's not meant as derogatory. Nevertheless the use is somewhat insensitive, in that it can be easily misinterpreted.



Note that it can be rude also to talk about people by their function rather than their job title, but again this is highly context-dependent. For example it would be familiar, but not derogatory, to say something like




You should go see Dr. Wallace, he's the top heart man in the country.







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  • I agree with this. I just hope that when they show up and are working in our area, that my manager doesn't say something like 'you floor people did a great job of re-waxing the floor'.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






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    @HRIATEXP Yes, that would be rude. I might jokingly respond, "Sorry sir, but I'm not a "floor person". I'm a "floor professional".

    – Andrew
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This may be subtle and comes down to inflection and intention. I suspect that your manager was not being rude but trying to refer succinctly to a particular trade.



If you were talking about a construction site you might talk about the "concrete people" or the "drywall people" to refer to the particular trades that were expert in those parts of the project. Those trades may have more precise professional nomenclature to them, but to an outsider it may be a useful shorthand that identifies the work without knowing the terminology. If your manager was talking about waxing the floor-- which is a skilled task that may also imply something beyond a regular custodial service-- then presumably he was using "floor people" as a shorthand for that skill.



You could, of course, also intend this phrase to be a form of deliberate (and surprisingly poetic!) put-down pun by using the physically "low" location of a floor as a metaphor for class or status. I don't know you or your manager but most people aren't jerks by default.






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  • I see what you're saying. I'm someone who strongly believes that you always refer to people by their official job title, yet perhaps I'm being too over-sensitive to what my manager chooses to view them as.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    I would say that usually "floor people" would not refer to janitors in general, but specifically to people who work with floors, typically flooring installers/salesmen. But since the boss had specifically requested a floor maintenance ticket, he's more or less referring to whoever is supposed to come and work on the floor.

    – pboss3010
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This may be subtle and comes down to inflection and intention. I suspect that your manager was not being rude but trying to refer succinctly to a particular trade.



If you were talking about a construction site you might talk about the "concrete people" or the "drywall people" to refer to the particular trades that were expert in those parts of the project. Those trades may have more precise professional nomenclature to them, but to an outsider it may be a useful shorthand that identifies the work without knowing the terminology. If your manager was talking about waxing the floor-- which is a skilled task that may also imply something beyond a regular custodial service-- then presumably he was using "floor people" as a shorthand for that skill.



You could, of course, also intend this phrase to be a form of deliberate (and surprisingly poetic!) put-down pun by using the physically "low" location of a floor as a metaphor for class or status. I don't know you or your manager but most people aren't jerks by default.






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  • I see what you're saying. I'm someone who strongly believes that you always refer to people by their official job title, yet perhaps I'm being too over-sensitive to what my manager chooses to view them as.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    I would say that usually "floor people" would not refer to janitors in general, but specifically to people who work with floors, typically flooring installers/salesmen. But since the boss had specifically requested a floor maintenance ticket, he's more or less referring to whoever is supposed to come and work on the floor.

    – pboss3010
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This may be subtle and comes down to inflection and intention. I suspect that your manager was not being rude but trying to refer succinctly to a particular trade.



If you were talking about a construction site you might talk about the "concrete people" or the "drywall people" to refer to the particular trades that were expert in those parts of the project. Those trades may have more precise professional nomenclature to them, but to an outsider it may be a useful shorthand that identifies the work without knowing the terminology. If your manager was talking about waxing the floor-- which is a skilled task that may also imply something beyond a regular custodial service-- then presumably he was using "floor people" as a shorthand for that skill.



You could, of course, also intend this phrase to be a form of deliberate (and surprisingly poetic!) put-down pun by using the physically "low" location of a floor as a metaphor for class or status. I don't know you or your manager but most people aren't jerks by default.






share|improve this answer















This may be subtle and comes down to inflection and intention. I suspect that your manager was not being rude but trying to refer succinctly to a particular trade.



If you were talking about a construction site you might talk about the "concrete people" or the "drywall people" to refer to the particular trades that were expert in those parts of the project. Those trades may have more precise professional nomenclature to them, but to an outsider it may be a useful shorthand that identifies the work without knowing the terminology. If your manager was talking about waxing the floor-- which is a skilled task that may also imply something beyond a regular custodial service-- then presumably he was using "floor people" as a shorthand for that skill.



You could, of course, also intend this phrase to be a form of deliberate (and surprisingly poetic!) put-down pun by using the physically "low" location of a floor as a metaphor for class or status. I don't know you or your manager but most people aren't jerks by default.







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  • I see what you're saying. I'm someone who strongly believes that you always refer to people by their official job title, yet perhaps I'm being too over-sensitive to what my manager chooses to view them as.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    I would say that usually "floor people" would not refer to janitors in general, but specifically to people who work with floors, typically flooring installers/salesmen. But since the boss had specifically requested a floor maintenance ticket, he's more or less referring to whoever is supposed to come and work on the floor.

    – pboss3010
    7 hours ago


















  • I see what you're saying. I'm someone who strongly believes that you always refer to people by their official job title, yet perhaps I'm being too over-sensitive to what my manager chooses to view them as.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    I would say that usually "floor people" would not refer to janitors in general, but specifically to people who work with floors, typically flooring installers/salesmen. But since the boss had specifically requested a floor maintenance ticket, he's more or less referring to whoever is supposed to come and work on the floor.

    – pboss3010
    7 hours ago

















I see what you're saying. I'm someone who strongly believes that you always refer to people by their official job title, yet perhaps I'm being too over-sensitive to what my manager chooses to view them as.

– HRIATEXP
8 hours ago





I see what you're saying. I'm someone who strongly believes that you always refer to people by their official job title, yet perhaps I'm being too over-sensitive to what my manager chooses to view them as.

– HRIATEXP
8 hours ago




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3





I would say that usually "floor people" would not refer to janitors in general, but specifically to people who work with floors, typically flooring installers/salesmen. But since the boss had specifically requested a floor maintenance ticket, he's more or less referring to whoever is supposed to come and work on the floor.

– pboss3010
7 hours ago






I would say that usually "floor people" would not refer to janitors in general, but specifically to people who work with floors, typically flooring installers/salesmen. But since the boss had specifically requested a floor maintenance ticket, he's more or less referring to whoever is supposed to come and work on the floor.

– pboss3010
7 hours ago














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It depends on the implication. If you assume "floor" to be a metaphor for "the lowest strata" or "beneath my feet" then certainly, it's derogatory.



However, I don't think this was your manager's intention. Instead, in his question, "floor people" is an ellipsis of




the people whose job it is to clean the floor




This use is much the same as saying "the printer guy" or "the cleaning lady", and so it's not meant as derogatory. Nevertheless the use is somewhat insensitive, in that it can be easily misinterpreted.



Note that it can be rude also to talk about people by their function rather than their job title, but again this is highly context-dependent. For example it would be familiar, but not derogatory, to say something like




You should go see Dr. Wallace, he's the top heart man in the country.







share|improve this answer

























  • I agree with this. I just hope that when they show up and are working in our area, that my manager doesn't say something like 'you floor people did a great job of re-waxing the floor'.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @HRIATEXP Yes, that would be rude. I might jokingly respond, "Sorry sir, but I'm not a "floor person". I'm a "floor professional".

    – Andrew
    8 hours ago















7














It depends on the implication. If you assume "floor" to be a metaphor for "the lowest strata" or "beneath my feet" then certainly, it's derogatory.



However, I don't think this was your manager's intention. Instead, in his question, "floor people" is an ellipsis of




the people whose job it is to clean the floor




This use is much the same as saying "the printer guy" or "the cleaning lady", and so it's not meant as derogatory. Nevertheless the use is somewhat insensitive, in that it can be easily misinterpreted.



Note that it can be rude also to talk about people by their function rather than their job title, but again this is highly context-dependent. For example it would be familiar, but not derogatory, to say something like




You should go see Dr. Wallace, he's the top heart man in the country.







share|improve this answer

























  • I agree with this. I just hope that when they show up and are working in our area, that my manager doesn't say something like 'you floor people did a great job of re-waxing the floor'.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @HRIATEXP Yes, that would be rude. I might jokingly respond, "Sorry sir, but I'm not a "floor person". I'm a "floor professional".

    – Andrew
    8 hours ago













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It depends on the implication. If you assume "floor" to be a metaphor for "the lowest strata" or "beneath my feet" then certainly, it's derogatory.



However, I don't think this was your manager's intention. Instead, in his question, "floor people" is an ellipsis of




the people whose job it is to clean the floor




This use is much the same as saying "the printer guy" or "the cleaning lady", and so it's not meant as derogatory. Nevertheless the use is somewhat insensitive, in that it can be easily misinterpreted.



Note that it can be rude also to talk about people by their function rather than their job title, but again this is highly context-dependent. For example it would be familiar, but not derogatory, to say something like




You should go see Dr. Wallace, he's the top heart man in the country.







share|improve this answer















It depends on the implication. If you assume "floor" to be a metaphor for "the lowest strata" or "beneath my feet" then certainly, it's derogatory.



However, I don't think this was your manager's intention. Instead, in his question, "floor people" is an ellipsis of




the people whose job it is to clean the floor




This use is much the same as saying "the printer guy" or "the cleaning lady", and so it's not meant as derogatory. Nevertheless the use is somewhat insensitive, in that it can be easily misinterpreted.



Note that it can be rude also to talk about people by their function rather than their job title, but again this is highly context-dependent. For example it would be familiar, but not derogatory, to say something like




You should go see Dr. Wallace, he's the top heart man in the country.








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  • I agree with this. I just hope that when they show up and are working in our area, that my manager doesn't say something like 'you floor people did a great job of re-waxing the floor'.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @HRIATEXP Yes, that would be rude. I might jokingly respond, "Sorry sir, but I'm not a "floor person". I'm a "floor professional".

    – Andrew
    8 hours ago

















  • I agree with this. I just hope that when they show up and are working in our area, that my manager doesn't say something like 'you floor people did a great job of re-waxing the floor'.

    – HRIATEXP
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @HRIATEXP Yes, that would be rude. I might jokingly respond, "Sorry sir, but I'm not a "floor person". I'm a "floor professional".

    – Andrew
    8 hours ago
















I agree with this. I just hope that when they show up and are working in our area, that my manager doesn't say something like 'you floor people did a great job of re-waxing the floor'.

– HRIATEXP
8 hours ago





I agree with this. I just hope that when they show up and are working in our area, that my manager doesn't say something like 'you floor people did a great job of re-waxing the floor'.

– HRIATEXP
8 hours ago




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@HRIATEXP Yes, that would be rude. I might jokingly respond, "Sorry sir, but I'm not a "floor person". I'm a "floor professional".

– Andrew
8 hours ago





@HRIATEXP Yes, that would be rude. I might jokingly respond, "Sorry sir, but I'm not a "floor person". I'm a "floor professional".

– Andrew
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