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What's the use case of commercial optimizer when we have Tensorflow?
Are there reusable formulations/heuristics shared with the community?Gurobi's “Out of memory” error without exhausting the RAM?How to choose an architecture for an OR web app and how to learn the tech stack associated?
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Not sure if this question is appropriate here.
I used to run customized spline fitting with commercial package such as mosek and gurobi.
Since beginning of this year, I tried to migrate to open source packages like tensorflow. I am surprised that the performance is not too bad.
They only difference seems to me that commercial packages are faster.
What's your view on this ? Can we say that commercial packages are more for real-time or semi-real-time problems where speed matters?
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Not sure if this question is appropriate here.
I used to run customized spline fitting with commercial package such as mosek and gurobi.
Since beginning of this year, I tried to migrate to open source packages like tensorflow. I am surprised that the performance is not too bad.
They only difference seems to me that commercial packages are faster.
What's your view on this ? Can we say that commercial packages are more for real-time or semi-real-time problems where speed matters?
software
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Hi @eight3, welcome to OR.SE. I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
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@JakobS, thanks for the comments. When you say discrete decision, are you referring to Mixed-Integer optimization?
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Yes, so regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try).
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Not sure if this question is appropriate here.
I used to run customized spline fitting with commercial package such as mosek and gurobi.
Since beginning of this year, I tried to migrate to open source packages like tensorflow. I am surprised that the performance is not too bad.
They only difference seems to me that commercial packages are faster.
What's your view on this ? Can we say that commercial packages are more for real-time or semi-real-time problems where speed matters?
software
asked 8 hours ago
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Not sure if this question is appropriate here.
I used to run customized spline fitting with commercial package such as mosek and gurobi.
Since beginning of this year, I tried to migrate to open source packages like tensorflow. I am surprised that the performance is not too bad.
They only difference seems to me that commercial packages are faster.
What's your view on this ? Can we say that commercial packages are more for real-time or semi-real-time problems where speed matters?
software
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Hi @eight3, welcome to OR.SE. I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
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@JakobS, thanks for the comments. When you say discrete decision, are you referring to Mixed-Integer optimization?
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– eight3
6 hours ago
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Yes, so regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try).
$endgroup$
– JakobS
6 hours ago
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Hi @eight3, welcome to OR.SE. I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
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– JakobS
6 hours ago
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@JakobS, thanks for the comments. When you say discrete decision, are you referring to Mixed-Integer optimization?
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– eight3
6 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
Yes, so regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try).
$endgroup$
– JakobS
6 hours ago
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Hi @eight3, welcome to OR.SE. I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
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– JakobS
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
Hi @eight3, welcome to OR.SE. I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
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– JakobS
6 hours ago
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@JakobS, thanks for the comments. When you say discrete decision, are you referring to Mixed-Integer optimization?
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– eight3
6 hours ago
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@JakobS, thanks for the comments. When you say discrete decision, are you referring to Mixed-Integer optimization?
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– eight3
6 hours ago
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Yes, so regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try).
$endgroup$
– JakobS
6 hours ago
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Yes, so regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try).
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I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values which means you are dealing with a Mixed-Integer Optimization Problem). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
Regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could use a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try). Again, special tailored algorithms and program packages will very likely perform better than general purpose programs or algorithms that work on a generalized form of a problem.
For example you can state SVM as a linear problem and solve it via a linear solver (CLP, SCIP, Gurobi, Mosek, CPLEX, Xpress, you name it...) but specialized SVM solvers will probably perform better as they use special tricks which are inherent in the underlying structure of the problem. General problem solvers might not be able to detect these structures and thus perform not as good. To be honest I would be very interested in a benchmark between programs specifically written for SVM and general purpose LP solvers that solve the problem.
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I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values which means you are dealing with a Mixed-Integer Optimization Problem). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
Regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could use a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try). Again, special tailored algorithms and program packages will very likely perform better than general purpose programs or algorithms that work on a generalized form of a problem.
For example you can state SVM as a linear problem and solve it via a linear solver (CLP, SCIP, Gurobi, Mosek, CPLEX, Xpress, you name it...) but specialized SVM solvers will probably perform better as they use special tricks which are inherent in the underlying structure of the problem. General problem solvers might not be able to detect these structures and thus perform not as good. To be honest I would be very interested in a benchmark between programs specifically written for SVM and general purpose LP solvers that solve the problem.
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I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values which means you are dealing with a Mixed-Integer Optimization Problem). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
Regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could use a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try). Again, special tailored algorithms and program packages will very likely perform better than general purpose programs or algorithms that work on a generalized form of a problem.
For example you can state SVM as a linear problem and solve it via a linear solver (CLP, SCIP, Gurobi, Mosek, CPLEX, Xpress, you name it...) but specialized SVM solvers will probably perform better as they use special tricks which are inherent in the underlying structure of the problem. General problem solvers might not be able to detect these structures and thus perform not as good. To be honest I would be very interested in a benchmark between programs specifically written for SVM and general purpose LP solvers that solve the problem.
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I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values which means you are dealing with a Mixed-Integer Optimization Problem). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
Regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could use a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try). Again, special tailored algorithms and program packages will very likely perform better than general purpose programs or algorithms that work on a generalized form of a problem.
For example you can state SVM as a linear problem and solve it via a linear solver (CLP, SCIP, Gurobi, Mosek, CPLEX, Xpress, you name it...) but specialized SVM solvers will probably perform better as they use special tricks which are inherent in the underlying structure of the problem. General problem solvers might not be able to detect these structures and thus perform not as good. To be honest I would be very interested in a benchmark between programs specifically written for SVM and general purpose LP solvers that solve the problem.
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I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values which means you are dealing with a Mixed-Integer Optimization Problem). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
Regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could use a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try). Again, special tailored algorithms and program packages will very likely perform better than general purpose programs or algorithms that work on a generalized form of a problem.
For example you can state SVM as a linear problem and solve it via a linear solver (CLP, SCIP, Gurobi, Mosek, CPLEX, Xpress, you name it...) but specialized SVM solvers will probably perform better as they use special tricks which are inherent in the underlying structure of the problem. General problem solvers might not be able to detect these structures and thus perform not as good. To be honest I would be very interested in a benchmark between programs specifically written for SVM and general purpose LP solvers that solve the problem.
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Hi @eight3, welcome to OR.SE. I'd say that you are comparing software packages with very different aims and capabilities. Tensorflow was developed to solve problems which involve (deep) neural nets. Mosek and gurobi on the other hand are usually used to solve optimization problems that involve discrete decisions (i.e. variables that can take only discrete values). While they are also able to solve (certain) continuous problems, they perform best on the former problems. Tensorflow on the other hand is specifically tailored for the neural nets.
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@JakobS, thanks for the comments. When you say discrete decision, are you referring to Mixed-Integer optimization?
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– eight3
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Yes, so regarding your specific problem of spline fitting I'd suppose you do not have any discrete aspects? In that case you probably could a variety of solvers from different areas (Ipopt for example is a nonlinear solver which probably could also be worth a try).
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– JakobS
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