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If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need
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Is this argument valid?
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If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need
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Is this argument valid?
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Is the argument valid?
No.
"I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".
This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".
See Denying the antecedent.
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Wikipedia describes validity as follows:
In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.
The argument we want to test for validity is the following:
If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.
This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:
- R: "Interest rates go down."
- B: "I will buy a house."
- L: "I will need a loan."
If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.
We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:
((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)
This is the result I get:
Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.
Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195
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The last statement suggests that buying a house is the only reason you would need a loan. Not buying a house does not rule out other reasons for needing a loan. Therefore it's logically false.
If it were explicitly stated that you would only ever need a loan when buying a house, it would be logically correct, even though it would be potentially false in reality.
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Is the argument valid?
No.
"I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".
This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".
See Denying the antecedent.
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Is the argument valid?
No.
"I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".
This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".
See Denying the antecedent.
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Is the argument valid?
No.
"I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".
This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".
See Denying the antecedent.
answered 12 hours ago
Mauro ALLEGRANZAMauro ALLEGRANZA
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Is the argument valid?
No.
"I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".
This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".
See Denying the antecedent.
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Wikipedia describes validity as follows:
In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.
The argument we want to test for validity is the following:
If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.
This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:
- R: "Interest rates go down."
- B: "I will buy a house."
- L: "I will need a loan."
If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.
We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:
((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)
This is the result I get:
Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.
Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195
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Wikipedia describes validity as follows:
In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.
The argument we want to test for validity is the following:
If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.
This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:
- R: "Interest rates go down."
- B: "I will buy a house."
- L: "I will need a loan."
If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.
We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:
((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)
This is the result I get:
Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.
Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195
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Wikipedia describes validity as follows:
In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.
The argument we want to test for validity is the following:
If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.
This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:
- R: "Interest rates go down."
- B: "I will buy a house."
- L: "I will need a loan."
If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.
We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:
((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)
This is the result I get:
Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.
Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195
answered 12 hours ago
Frank HubenyFrank Hubeny
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Wikipedia describes validity as follows:
In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.
The argument we want to test for validity is the following:
If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.
This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:
- R: "Interest rates go down."
- B: "I will buy a house."
- L: "I will need a loan."
If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.
We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:
((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)
This is the result I get:
Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.
Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195
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The last statement suggests that buying a house is the only reason you would need a loan. Not buying a house does not rule out other reasons for needing a loan. Therefore it's logically false.
If it were explicitly stated that you would only ever need a loan when buying a house, it would be logically correct, even though it would be potentially false in reality.
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The last statement suggests that buying a house is the only reason you would need a loan. Not buying a house does not rule out other reasons for needing a loan. Therefore it's logically false.
If it were explicitly stated that you would only ever need a loan when buying a house, it would be logically correct, even though it would be potentially false in reality.
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The last statement suggests that buying a house is the only reason you would need a loan. Not buying a house does not rule out other reasons for needing a loan. Therefore it's logically false.
If it were explicitly stated that you would only ever need a loan when buying a house, it would be logically correct, even though it would be potentially false in reality.
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The last statement suggests that buying a house is the only reason you would need a loan. Not buying a house does not rule out other reasons for needing a loan. Therefore it's logically false.
If it were explicitly stated that you would only ever need a loan when buying a house, it would be logically correct, even though it would be potentially false in reality.
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