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Can I take an upcast spell as my Mystic Arcanum?
Mystic Arcanum class feature: Can you choose lower level spells at higher level?Would using a lower-leveled spell for the a Warlock's Mystic Arcanum feature impair balance?Mystic Arcanum class feature: Can you choose lower level spells at higher level?Does Sequester extend the duration of Conjure spells?Why choose Mass Suggestion over Suggestion?Is there any way for a wizard to summon a Celestial or Fey for Planar Binding?Would it be game breaking to allow a Warlock to use his Mystic Arcanum to cast his spells at a higher level?Would using a lower-leveled spell for the a Warlock's Mystic Arcanum feature impair balance?How are conjured creatures controlled?Is this Magister homebrew warlock patron balanced?
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For example, say I have a warlock and want to be able to summon bhuer hags.
This is slightly problematic due to bhuer's having a CR 7, so could I take an upcast Conjure Fey as my 7th level Mystic Arcanum?
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For example, say I have a warlock and want to be able to summon bhuer hags.
This is slightly problematic due to bhuer's having a CR 7, so could I take an upcast Conjure Fey as my 7th level Mystic Arcanum?
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For example, say I have a warlock and want to be able to summon bhuer hags.
This is slightly problematic due to bhuer's having a CR 7, so could I take an upcast Conjure Fey as my 7th level Mystic Arcanum?
dnd-5e warlock
asked 8 hours ago
Q PaulQ Paul
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For example, say I have a warlock and want to be able to summon bhuer hags.
This is slightly problematic due to bhuer's having a CR 7, so could I take an upcast Conjure Fey as my 7th level Mystic Arcanum?
dnd-5e warlock
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Related: Mystic Arcanum class feature: Can you choose lower level spells at higher level?, Would using a lower-leveled spell for the a Warlock's Mystic Arcanum feature impair balance?
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Related: Mystic Arcanum class feature: Can you choose lower level spells at higher level?, Would using a lower-leveled spell for the a Warlock's Mystic Arcanum feature impair balance?
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Related: Mystic Arcanum class feature: Can you choose lower level spells at higher level?, Would using a lower-leveled spell for the a Warlock's Mystic Arcanum feature impair balance?
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You cannot do this
The Mystic Arcanum feature states:
Choose one Xth-level spell from the warlock spell list as this arcanum. You can cast your arcanum spell once without expending a spell slot. You must finish a long rest before you can do so again.
This requires to actually choose a spell of a certain level from your list, unfortunately the upcast version of a spell is not on your spell list and so cannot be chosen with this feature.
That said, houseruling this would likely not be game-breaking as most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level.
answered 8 hours ago
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"Most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level." Has this been conclusively demonstrated?
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– mdrichey
7 hours ago
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@mdrichey This is true because higher level spells give you entirely knew capabilities instead of just increasing the power of previous ones. Summoning spells are one of the more edge-cases for this metric though, I'll admit
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@mdrichey Another proof of this is the existence of higher level spells. If upcast spells were better then nobody would ever get higher level spells
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You cannot do this
The Mystic Arcanum feature states:
Choose one Xth-level spell from the warlock spell list as this arcanum. You can cast your arcanum spell once without expending a spell slot. You must finish a long rest before you can do so again.
This requires to actually choose a spell of a certain level from your list, unfortunately the upcast version of a spell is not on your spell list and so cannot be chosen with this feature.
That said, houseruling this would likely not be game-breaking as most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level.
answered 8 hours ago
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"Most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level." Has this been conclusively demonstrated?
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– mdrichey
7 hours ago
1
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@mdrichey This is true because higher level spells give you entirely knew capabilities instead of just increasing the power of previous ones. Summoning spells are one of the more edge-cases for this metric though, I'll admit
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– Medix2
6 hours ago
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@mdrichey Another proof of this is the existence of higher level spells. If upcast spells were better then nobody would ever get higher level spells
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– Medix2
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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You cannot do this
The Mystic Arcanum feature states:
Choose one Xth-level spell from the warlock spell list as this arcanum. You can cast your arcanum spell once without expending a spell slot. You must finish a long rest before you can do so again.
This requires to actually choose a spell of a certain level from your list, unfortunately the upcast version of a spell is not on your spell list and so cannot be chosen with this feature.
That said, houseruling this would likely not be game-breaking as most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level.
answered 8 hours ago
Medix2Medix2
7,6872 gold badges20 silver badges82 bronze badges
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"Most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level." Has this been conclusively demonstrated?
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– mdrichey
7 hours ago
1
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@mdrichey This is true because higher level spells give you entirely knew capabilities instead of just increasing the power of previous ones. Summoning spells are one of the more edge-cases for this metric though, I'll admit
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– Medix2
6 hours ago
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@mdrichey Another proof of this is the existence of higher level spells. If upcast spells were better then nobody would ever get higher level spells
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– Medix2
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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You cannot do this
The Mystic Arcanum feature states:
Choose one Xth-level spell from the warlock spell list as this arcanum. You can cast your arcanum spell once without expending a spell slot. You must finish a long rest before you can do so again.
This requires to actually choose a spell of a certain level from your list, unfortunately the upcast version of a spell is not on your spell list and so cannot be chosen with this feature.
That said, houseruling this would likely not be game-breaking as most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level.
answered 8 hours ago
Medix2Medix2
7,6872 gold badges20 silver badges82 bronze badges
$endgroup$
You cannot do this
The Mystic Arcanum feature states:
Choose one Xth-level spell from the warlock spell list as this arcanum. You can cast your arcanum spell once without expending a spell slot. You must finish a long rest before you can do so again.
This requires to actually choose a spell of a certain level from your list, unfortunately the upcast version of a spell is not on your spell list and so cannot be chosen with this feature.
That said, houseruling this would likely not be game-breaking as most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level.
answered 8 hours ago
Medix2Medix2
7,6872 gold badges20 silver badges82 bronze badges
answered 8 hours ago
Medix2Medix2
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answered 8 hours ago
Medix2Medix2
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answered 8 hours ago
Medix2Medix2
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"Most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level." Has this been conclusively demonstrated?
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– mdrichey
7 hours ago
1
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@mdrichey This is true because higher level spells give you entirely knew capabilities instead of just increasing the power of previous ones. Summoning spells are one of the more edge-cases for this metric though, I'll admit
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– Medix2
6 hours ago
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@mdrichey Another proof of this is the existence of higher level spells. If upcast spells were better then nobody would ever get higher level spells
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– Medix2
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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"Most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level." Has this been conclusively demonstrated?
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– mdrichey
7 hours ago
1
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@mdrichey This is true because higher level spells give you entirely knew capabilities instead of just increasing the power of previous ones. Summoning spells are one of the more edge-cases for this metric though, I'll admit
$endgroup$
– Medix2
6 hours ago
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@mdrichey Another proof of this is the existence of higher level spells. If upcast spells were better then nobody would ever get higher level spells
$endgroup$
– Medix2
5 hours ago
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"Most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level." Has this been conclusively demonstrated?
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– mdrichey
7 hours ago
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"Most spells upcast to a given level are weaker than other spells of the same level." Has this been conclusively demonstrated?
$endgroup$
– mdrichey
7 hours ago
1
1
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@mdrichey This is true because higher level spells give you entirely knew capabilities instead of just increasing the power of previous ones. Summoning spells are one of the more edge-cases for this metric though, I'll admit
$endgroup$
– Medix2
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
@mdrichey This is true because higher level spells give you entirely knew capabilities instead of just increasing the power of previous ones. Summoning spells are one of the more edge-cases for this metric though, I'll admit
$endgroup$
– Medix2
6 hours ago
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@mdrichey Another proof of this is the existence of higher level spells. If upcast spells were better then nobody would ever get higher level spells
$endgroup$
– Medix2
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
@mdrichey Another proof of this is the existence of higher level spells. If upcast spells were better then nobody would ever get higher level spells
$endgroup$
– Medix2
5 hours ago
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