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Does Medium Armor's Max dex also put a cap on the negative side?
Does the armor category inherently imply a speed change?Does a negative Dex mod affect AC and Initiative?What exactly is “base AC”?What effect does combining Mithril and an Armored Kilt have on armor category?Does the “heroic level defense bonus” make armor pointless for DEX based characters?Is there any difference between Studded Leather and Breastplate if my AC is the same with both?What rules or guidelines are there about when to allow a party to acquire plate mail?How do I fight with Heavy Armor as a Wizard with Tenser's Transformation?What Armor Optimization applies to a Mithral full plate?
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I know heavy armor ignores Dexterity modifiers for AC calculations, but what about medium armor for a character with a -3 to their dexterity? Does Medium armor bottom out at -2, or will -3 still apply?
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I know heavy armor ignores Dexterity modifiers for AC calculations, but what about medium armor for a character with a -3 to their dexterity? Does Medium armor bottom out at -2, or will -3 still apply?
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I got a player playing a bulky but physically slow character and seems interested in really low dex. I had rolled elven chain for them as a random loot and figured it was a good way to buff up their defenses.
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I know heavy armor ignores Dexterity modifiers for AC calculations, but what about medium armor for a character with a -3 to their dexterity? Does Medium armor bottom out at -2, or will -3 still apply?
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I know heavy armor ignores Dexterity modifiers for AC calculations, but what about medium armor for a character with a -3 to their dexterity? Does Medium armor bottom out at -2, or will -3 still apply?
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I got a player playing a bulky but physically slow character and seems interested in really low dex. I had rolled elven chain for them as a random loot and figured it was a good way to buff up their defenses.
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I got a player playing a bulky but physically slow character and seems interested in really low dex. I had rolled elven chain for them as a random loot and figured it was a good way to buff up their defenses.
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– Clarus_Nox
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I got a player playing a bulky but physically slow character and seems interested in really low dex. I had rolled elven chain for them as a random loot and figured it was a good way to buff up their defenses.
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– Clarus_Nox
8 hours ago
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I got a player playing a bulky but physically slow character and seems interested in really low dex. I had rolled elven chain for them as a random loot and figured it was a good way to buff up their defenses.
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No, you could still apply a -3 modifier
This is an understandable question, because the table of armors in the PHB (p. 145) states that you add your Dexerity Modifier "max 2" to your medium armor AC. This is a tad ambiguous, and could be read several ways. However, the rules on medium armor spell out the rules on modifiers a bit more explicitly than the table of armor does. In PHB p. 144, it states (bold added):
If you wear medium armor, you add your Dexterity modifier, to a maximum of +2, to the base number from your armor type to determine your Armor Class.
Since this clause specifies a "+" 2 as the maximum, it clarifies that what is meant by "max 2" on the armor table is that a positive 2 is the highest possible modifier. Thus, the "max 2" on the armor table doesn't apply to modifiers that are below 0 (and thus below the "max" of +2).
Contrast this with the rules for Aura of Protection, which states (PHB, p. 85, bold added):
the creature gains a bonus to the saving throw equal to your Charisma modifier (with a minimum bonus of +1). You must be conscious to grant this bonus.
In the absence of a stated minimum modifier, the -3 "bonus" from a Dexterity of 3 or 4 could be applied to your AC if you were wearing medium armor.
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dang, beat me to it. Your answer was significantly more detailed than mine as well. Take my updoot! >.<
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No, you could still apply a -3 modifier
This is an understandable question, because the table of armors in the PHB (p. 145) states that you add your Dexerity Modifier "max 2" to your medium armor AC. This is a tad ambiguous, and could be read several ways. However, the rules on medium armor spell out the rules on modifiers a bit more explicitly than the table of armor does. In PHB p. 144, it states (bold added):
If you wear medium armor, you add your Dexterity modifier, to a maximum of +2, to the base number from your armor type to determine your Armor Class.
Since this clause specifies a "+" 2 as the maximum, it clarifies that what is meant by "max 2" on the armor table is that a positive 2 is the highest possible modifier. Thus, the "max 2" on the armor table doesn't apply to modifiers that are below 0 (and thus below the "max" of +2).
Contrast this with the rules for Aura of Protection, which states (PHB, p. 85, bold added):
the creature gains a bonus to the saving throw equal to your Charisma modifier (with a minimum bonus of +1). You must be conscious to grant this bonus.
In the absence of a stated minimum modifier, the -3 "bonus" from a Dexterity of 3 or 4 could be applied to your AC if you were wearing medium armor.
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dang, beat me to it. Your answer was significantly more detailed than mine as well. Take my updoot! >.<
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– Thomas Mundane
8 hours ago
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No, you could still apply a -3 modifier
This is an understandable question, because the table of armors in the PHB (p. 145) states that you add your Dexerity Modifier "max 2" to your medium armor AC. This is a tad ambiguous, and could be read several ways. However, the rules on medium armor spell out the rules on modifiers a bit more explicitly than the table of armor does. In PHB p. 144, it states (bold added):
If you wear medium armor, you add your Dexterity modifier, to a maximum of +2, to the base number from your armor type to determine your Armor Class.
Since this clause specifies a "+" 2 as the maximum, it clarifies that what is meant by "max 2" on the armor table is that a positive 2 is the highest possible modifier. Thus, the "max 2" on the armor table doesn't apply to modifiers that are below 0 (and thus below the "max" of +2).
Contrast this with the rules for Aura of Protection, which states (PHB, p. 85, bold added):
the creature gains a bonus to the saving throw equal to your Charisma modifier (with a minimum bonus of +1). You must be conscious to grant this bonus.
In the absence of a stated minimum modifier, the -3 "bonus" from a Dexterity of 3 or 4 could be applied to your AC if you were wearing medium armor.
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dang, beat me to it. Your answer was significantly more detailed than mine as well. Take my updoot! >.<
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– Thomas Mundane
8 hours ago
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No, you could still apply a -3 modifier
This is an understandable question, because the table of armors in the PHB (p. 145) states that you add your Dexerity Modifier "max 2" to your medium armor AC. This is a tad ambiguous, and could be read several ways. However, the rules on medium armor spell out the rules on modifiers a bit more explicitly than the table of armor does. In PHB p. 144, it states (bold added):
If you wear medium armor, you add your Dexterity modifier, to a maximum of +2, to the base number from your armor type to determine your Armor Class.
Since this clause specifies a "+" 2 as the maximum, it clarifies that what is meant by "max 2" on the armor table is that a positive 2 is the highest possible modifier. Thus, the "max 2" on the armor table doesn't apply to modifiers that are below 0 (and thus below the "max" of +2).
Contrast this with the rules for Aura of Protection, which states (PHB, p. 85, bold added):
the creature gains a bonus to the saving throw equal to your Charisma modifier (with a minimum bonus of +1). You must be conscious to grant this bonus.
In the absence of a stated minimum modifier, the -3 "bonus" from a Dexterity of 3 or 4 could be applied to your AC if you were wearing medium armor.
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No, you could still apply a -3 modifier
This is an understandable question, because the table of armors in the PHB (p. 145) states that you add your Dexerity Modifier "max 2" to your medium armor AC. This is a tad ambiguous, and could be read several ways. However, the rules on medium armor spell out the rules on modifiers a bit more explicitly than the table of armor does. In PHB p. 144, it states (bold added):
If you wear medium armor, you add your Dexterity modifier, to a maximum of +2, to the base number from your armor type to determine your Armor Class.
Since this clause specifies a "+" 2 as the maximum, it clarifies that what is meant by "max 2" on the armor table is that a positive 2 is the highest possible modifier. Thus, the "max 2" on the armor table doesn't apply to modifiers that are below 0 (and thus below the "max" of +2).
Contrast this with the rules for Aura of Protection, which states (PHB, p. 85, bold added):
the creature gains a bonus to the saving throw equal to your Charisma modifier (with a minimum bonus of +1). You must be conscious to grant this bonus.
In the absence of a stated minimum modifier, the -3 "bonus" from a Dexterity of 3 or 4 could be applied to your AC if you were wearing medium armor.
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dang, beat me to it. Your answer was significantly more detailed than mine as well. Take my updoot! >.<
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dang, beat me to it. Your answer was significantly more detailed than mine as well. Take my updoot! >.<
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dang, beat me to it. Your answer was significantly more detailed than mine as well. Take my updoot! >.<
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I got a player playing a bulky but physically slow character and seems interested in really low dex. I had rolled elven chain for them as a random loot and figured it was a good way to buff up their defenses.
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– Clarus_Nox
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