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I am networking to change jobs. I want to train a replacement at my current job. I have identified the person. I need to have more one on one time with that coworker, but it is challenging to arrange.



My bosses cannot know that I am considering leaving, because they will make my worklife miserable.



I want my coworker to be well established to fill my role and be in line for promotion and a good opportunity after my departure. We are not close, but I know that they are in such a situation as to benefit greatly personally and professionally. So I also do not want to let them in on my plan. Especially as it may cause bad repercussions for them if they are found to knowingly go along with my plan.



Having them well trained will also minimize any stress to my employer, though they may not appreciate it, if they knew my plan now. How can I give my coworker the training in the time I have left?



I'm concerned if I propose training someone, the company would never select the individual I have in mind. They like to create paths for their 'favorites'. I want to disrupt that unfair practice by creating a formidable replacement that cannot be argued against and is not going to perpetuate partiality. But perhaps I'm becoming the thing I hate, but being partial myself? Just realized my folly.










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    Very related, potential duplicate: How can I prepare for getting hit by a bus?

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    The title of this question should be How to be dishonest in the workplace and get away with it

    – joeqwerty
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    @joeqwerty There's nothing dishonest about this. The way I read the question (maybe I'm wrong about that) the OP's management doesn't even deserve this effort. Kudos to OP for trying to help a coworker.

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    8 hours ago







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    I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

    – joeqwerty
    7 hours ago







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    You don't get to choose and train your own successor, without prior approval from your boss. And it's even less likely to make sense without informing the anointed individual. "I am networking to change jobs." - aren't you the part-time engineer who wants to be promoted to manager?

    – Joe Strazzere
    7 hours ago


















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I am networking to change jobs. I want to train a replacement at my current job. I have identified the person. I need to have more one on one time with that coworker, but it is challenging to arrange.



My bosses cannot know that I am considering leaving, because they will make my worklife miserable.



I want my coworker to be well established to fill my role and be in line for promotion and a good opportunity after my departure. We are not close, but I know that they are in such a situation as to benefit greatly personally and professionally. So I also do not want to let them in on my plan. Especially as it may cause bad repercussions for them if they are found to knowingly go along with my plan.



Having them well trained will also minimize any stress to my employer, though they may not appreciate it, if they knew my plan now. How can I give my coworker the training in the time I have left?



I'm concerned if I propose training someone, the company would never select the individual I have in mind. They like to create paths for their 'favorites'. I want to disrupt that unfair practice by creating a formidable replacement that cannot be argued against and is not going to perpetuate partiality. But perhaps I'm becoming the thing I hate, but being partial myself? Just realized my folly.










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  • 4





    Very related, potential duplicate: How can I prepare for getting hit by a bus?

    – David K
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    The title of this question should be How to be dishonest in the workplace and get away with it

    – joeqwerty
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @joeqwerty There's nothing dishonest about this. The way I read the question (maybe I'm wrong about that) the OP's management doesn't even deserve this effort. Kudos to OP for trying to help a coworker.

    – xxbbcc
    8 hours ago







  • 3





    I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

    – joeqwerty
    7 hours ago







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    You don't get to choose and train your own successor, without prior approval from your boss. And it's even less likely to make sense without informing the anointed individual. "I am networking to change jobs." - aren't you the part-time engineer who wants to be promoted to manager?

    – Joe Strazzere
    7 hours ago














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I am networking to change jobs. I want to train a replacement at my current job. I have identified the person. I need to have more one on one time with that coworker, but it is challenging to arrange.



My bosses cannot know that I am considering leaving, because they will make my worklife miserable.



I want my coworker to be well established to fill my role and be in line for promotion and a good opportunity after my departure. We are not close, but I know that they are in such a situation as to benefit greatly personally and professionally. So I also do not want to let them in on my plan. Especially as it may cause bad repercussions for them if they are found to knowingly go along with my plan.



Having them well trained will also minimize any stress to my employer, though they may not appreciate it, if they knew my plan now. How can I give my coworker the training in the time I have left?



I'm concerned if I propose training someone, the company would never select the individual I have in mind. They like to create paths for their 'favorites'. I want to disrupt that unfair practice by creating a formidable replacement that cannot be argued against and is not going to perpetuate partiality. But perhaps I'm becoming the thing I hate, but being partial myself? Just realized my folly.










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I am networking to change jobs. I want to train a replacement at my current job. I have identified the person. I need to have more one on one time with that coworker, but it is challenging to arrange.



My bosses cannot know that I am considering leaving, because they will make my worklife miserable.



I want my coworker to be well established to fill my role and be in line for promotion and a good opportunity after my departure. We are not close, but I know that they are in such a situation as to benefit greatly personally and professionally. So I also do not want to let them in on my plan. Especially as it may cause bad repercussions for them if they are found to knowingly go along with my plan.



Having them well trained will also minimize any stress to my employer, though they may not appreciate it, if they knew my plan now. How can I give my coworker the training in the time I have left?



I'm concerned if I propose training someone, the company would never select the individual I have in mind. They like to create paths for their 'favorites'. I want to disrupt that unfair practice by creating a formidable replacement that cannot be argued against and is not going to perpetuate partiality. But perhaps I'm becoming the thing I hate, but being partial myself? Just realized my folly.







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    Very related, potential duplicate: How can I prepare for getting hit by a bus?

    – David K
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  • 1





    The title of this question should be How to be dishonest in the workplace and get away with it

    – joeqwerty
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @joeqwerty There's nothing dishonest about this. The way I read the question (maybe I'm wrong about that) the OP's management doesn't even deserve this effort. Kudos to OP for trying to help a coworker.

    – xxbbcc
    8 hours ago







  • 3





    I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

    – joeqwerty
    7 hours ago







  • 2





    You don't get to choose and train your own successor, without prior approval from your boss. And it's even less likely to make sense without informing the anointed individual. "I am networking to change jobs." - aren't you the part-time engineer who wants to be promoted to manager?

    – Joe Strazzere
    7 hours ago













  • 4





    Very related, potential duplicate: How can I prepare for getting hit by a bus?

    – David K
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    The title of this question should be How to be dishonest in the workplace and get away with it

    – joeqwerty
    8 hours ago







  • 2





    @joeqwerty There's nothing dishonest about this. The way I read the question (maybe I'm wrong about that) the OP's management doesn't even deserve this effort. Kudos to OP for trying to help a coworker.

    – xxbbcc
    8 hours ago







  • 3





    I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

    – joeqwerty
    7 hours ago







  • 2





    You don't get to choose and train your own successor, without prior approval from your boss. And it's even less likely to make sense without informing the anointed individual. "I am networking to change jobs." - aren't you the part-time engineer who wants to be promoted to manager?

    – Joe Strazzere
    7 hours ago








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Very related, potential duplicate: How can I prepare for getting hit by a bus?

– David K
8 hours ago





Very related, potential duplicate: How can I prepare for getting hit by a bus?

– David K
8 hours ago




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The title of this question should be How to be dishonest in the workplace and get away with it

– joeqwerty
8 hours ago






The title of this question should be How to be dishonest in the workplace and get away with it

– joeqwerty
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@joeqwerty There's nothing dishonest about this. The way I read the question (maybe I'm wrong about that) the OP's management doesn't even deserve this effort. Kudos to OP for trying to help a coworker.

– xxbbcc
8 hours ago






@joeqwerty There's nothing dishonest about this. The way I read the question (maybe I'm wrong about that) the OP's management doesn't even deserve this effort. Kudos to OP for trying to help a coworker.

– xxbbcc
8 hours ago





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I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

– joeqwerty
7 hours ago






I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

– joeqwerty
7 hours ago





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You don't get to choose and train your own successor, without prior approval from your boss. And it's even less likely to make sense without informing the anointed individual. "I am networking to change jobs." - aren't you the part-time engineer who wants to be promoted to manager?

– Joe Strazzere
7 hours ago






You don't get to choose and train your own successor, without prior approval from your boss. And it's even less likely to make sense without informing the anointed individual. "I am networking to change jobs." - aren't you the part-time engineer who wants to be promoted to manager?

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Present the training activity to both the trainee and your managers as improving the bus factor. It is prudent to have at least two people capable of doing any job.



Talk to your manager first, so that you are certain who they want you to train.



Training the wrong person could create an extremely difficult situation when you resign. Training person X would make them expect to be your successor, and leave them feeling resentful if your manager prefers person Y. Your X training effort would have been wasted, and you would have to do hurry-up training of Y during your notice period.






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  • They would select a different person for the training. I have a particular person in mind.

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    @RR2 I have expanded my answer in response to your comment. Training anyone other than your manger's choice would be inappropriate. You can recommend, but ultimately selecting your successor is your manager's responsibility, and not something you should try to preempt.

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  • That's a really insightful answer. Have you experienced this before?

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  • Looping the relevant managers in on any training/skill sharing/etc schemes is also important as they may have more knowledge about your coworkers and the business's long-term plans and goals than you. - You also don't want to get caught in the awkward spot of having independently focused on skills development of a junior coworker who then jumps ship with their 'new and improved skills' before you get around to leaving...

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How can I give my coworker the training in the time I have left?




You don't, this is your boss's job to assign not yours. When you resign from the company, your boss will decide who ( if anyone ) will be trained to fill your role. They will also decide if you will be the one doing the training or not.






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  • It's admirable of you to worry about continuity. But, honestly, solving that problem is not on you. Manager work is actually hard, and this is manager work. Let this problem go, especially if you can't solve it without being sneaky.(Managers make their work harder when they create an atmosphere of distrust. It's still their work.)

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"Getting hit by a bus"



You're training someone to do what you do so that if you're out sick one day, get hit by a bus, or have some other emergency your company has someone ready and trained to fill in your role until you come back (or don't).



Its just a level of insurance that your company's management should see as a "good thing" not something to fear that you're intending to leave. It just so happens to let you extricate yourself without leaving the company in the lurch when you do hand in your resignation.






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    My bosses cannot know that I am considering leaving, because they will
    make my worklife miserable.



    I want my coworker to be well established to fill my role and be in
    line for promotion and a good opportunity after my departure. We are
    not close, but I know that they are in such a situation as to benefit
    greatly personally and professionally. So I also do not want to let
    them in on my plan. Especially as it may cause bad repercussions for
    them if they are found to knowingly go along with my plan.




    So your plan is to sneak around and be deceptive, both to your bosses and your colleague?



    That doesn't sound like a good plan.



    I can understand your not wanting to tip your hand to your bosses, but involving your colleague in your plan without their knowledge is deceptive, dishonest, and could potentially put their job in jeopardy.



    I'd caution you to rethink your approach to this issue.






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      "Don't worry boss man, I trained Bob! He knows all about it!"

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      I do not want to deceive anyone. I do not plan on lying. I do not think this information is something they have a right to. Why is that deception?

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      I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

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    You don't because the only ethical way to do what you suggest is if you could train this person on your own time, on your own equipment, outside of business offices. Or if your employer has a loop-hole allowing you to spend hours training people however you like which it doesn't sound like.




    But perhaps I'm becoming the thing I hate, but being partial myself?




    Absolutely. The fact you have your job proves that your employer is not as bad as you paint them. Unless you're saying that you don't really deserve the title/role you have. So we know that they aren't always bad & that they (according to you) aren't always good. That describes like 99% of the employers people actually want to work for, you know.



    At any rate it's your employer's prerogative to manage employee positions. Not yours. Sometimes employers ask employees for advice/opinions on promotions but that's not the case here. Maybe if you told your employer that you're leaving they would give you the opportunity to help them train/select someone. Obviously you'd also face the risk of being shown the door before you want.






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      Present the training activity to both the trainee and your managers as improving the bus factor. It is prudent to have at least two people capable of doing any job.



      Talk to your manager first, so that you are certain who they want you to train.



      Training the wrong person could create an extremely difficult situation when you resign. Training person X would make them expect to be your successor, and leave them feeling resentful if your manager prefers person Y. Your X training effort would have been wasted, and you would have to do hurry-up training of Y during your notice period.






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      • They would select a different person for the training. I have a particular person in mind.

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        @RR2 I have expanded my answer in response to your comment. Training anyone other than your manger's choice would be inappropriate. You can recommend, but ultimately selecting your successor is your manager's responsibility, and not something you should try to preempt.

        – Patricia Shanahan
        7 hours ago











      • That's a really insightful answer. Have you experienced this before?

        – RR 2
        6 hours ago











      • Looping the relevant managers in on any training/skill sharing/etc schemes is also important as they may have more knowledge about your coworkers and the business's long-term plans and goals than you. - You also don't want to get caught in the awkward spot of having independently focused on skills development of a junior coworker who then jumps ship with their 'new and improved skills' before you get around to leaving...

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      Present the training activity to both the trainee and your managers as improving the bus factor. It is prudent to have at least two people capable of doing any job.



      Talk to your manager first, so that you are certain who they want you to train.



      Training the wrong person could create an extremely difficult situation when you resign. Training person X would make them expect to be your successor, and leave them feeling resentful if your manager prefers person Y. Your X training effort would have been wasted, and you would have to do hurry-up training of Y during your notice period.






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        @RR2 I have expanded my answer in response to your comment. Training anyone other than your manger's choice would be inappropriate. You can recommend, but ultimately selecting your successor is your manager's responsibility, and not something you should try to preempt.

        – Patricia Shanahan
        7 hours ago











      • That's a really insightful answer. Have you experienced this before?

        – RR 2
        6 hours ago











      • Looping the relevant managers in on any training/skill sharing/etc schemes is also important as they may have more knowledge about your coworkers and the business's long-term plans and goals than you. - You also don't want to get caught in the awkward spot of having independently focused on skills development of a junior coworker who then jumps ship with their 'new and improved skills' before you get around to leaving...

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      Talk to your manager first, so that you are certain who they want you to train.



      Training the wrong person could create an extremely difficult situation when you resign. Training person X would make them expect to be your successor, and leave them feeling resentful if your manager prefers person Y. Your X training effort would have been wasted, and you would have to do hurry-up training of Y during your notice period.






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      Present the training activity to both the trainee and your managers as improving the bus factor. It is prudent to have at least two people capable of doing any job.



      Talk to your manager first, so that you are certain who they want you to train.



      Training the wrong person could create an extremely difficult situation when you resign. Training person X would make them expect to be your successor, and leave them feeling resentful if your manager prefers person Y. Your X training effort would have been wasted, and you would have to do hurry-up training of Y during your notice period.







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      • They would select a different person for the training. I have a particular person in mind.

        – RR 2
        8 hours ago






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        @RR2 I have expanded my answer in response to your comment. Training anyone other than your manger's choice would be inappropriate. You can recommend, but ultimately selecting your successor is your manager's responsibility, and not something you should try to preempt.

        – Patricia Shanahan
        7 hours ago











      • That's a really insightful answer. Have you experienced this before?

        – RR 2
        6 hours ago











      • Looping the relevant managers in on any training/skill sharing/etc schemes is also important as they may have more knowledge about your coworkers and the business's long-term plans and goals than you. - You also don't want to get caught in the awkward spot of having independently focused on skills development of a junior coworker who then jumps ship with their 'new and improved skills' before you get around to leaving...

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      • They would select a different person for the training. I have a particular person in mind.

        – RR 2
        8 hours ago






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        @RR2 I have expanded my answer in response to your comment. Training anyone other than your manger's choice would be inappropriate. You can recommend, but ultimately selecting your successor is your manager's responsibility, and not something you should try to preempt.

        – Patricia Shanahan
        7 hours ago











      • That's a really insightful answer. Have you experienced this before?

        – RR 2
        6 hours ago











      • Looping the relevant managers in on any training/skill sharing/etc schemes is also important as they may have more knowledge about your coworkers and the business's long-term plans and goals than you. - You also don't want to get caught in the awkward spot of having independently focused on skills development of a junior coworker who then jumps ship with their 'new and improved skills' before you get around to leaving...

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      They would select a different person for the training. I have a particular person in mind.

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      They would select a different person for the training. I have a particular person in mind.

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      @RR2 I have expanded my answer in response to your comment. Training anyone other than your manger's choice would be inappropriate. You can recommend, but ultimately selecting your successor is your manager's responsibility, and not something you should try to preempt.

      – Patricia Shanahan
      7 hours ago





      @RR2 I have expanded my answer in response to your comment. Training anyone other than your manger's choice would be inappropriate. You can recommend, but ultimately selecting your successor is your manager's responsibility, and not something you should try to preempt.

      – Patricia Shanahan
      7 hours ago













      That's a really insightful answer. Have you experienced this before?

      – RR 2
      6 hours ago





      That's a really insightful answer. Have you experienced this before?

      – RR 2
      6 hours ago













      Looping the relevant managers in on any training/skill sharing/etc schemes is also important as they may have more knowledge about your coworkers and the business's long-term plans and goals than you. - You also don't want to get caught in the awkward spot of having independently focused on skills development of a junior coworker who then jumps ship with their 'new and improved skills' before you get around to leaving...

      – TheLuckless
      2 hours ago





      Looping the relevant managers in on any training/skill sharing/etc schemes is also important as they may have more knowledge about your coworkers and the business's long-term plans and goals than you. - You also don't want to get caught in the awkward spot of having independently focused on skills development of a junior coworker who then jumps ship with their 'new and improved skills' before you get around to leaving...

      – TheLuckless
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      How can I give my coworker the training in the time I have left?




      You don't, this is your boss's job to assign not yours. When you resign from the company, your boss will decide who ( if anyone ) will be trained to fill your role. They will also decide if you will be the one doing the training or not.






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      • It's admirable of you to worry about continuity. But, honestly, solving that problem is not on you. Manager work is actually hard, and this is manager work. Let this problem go, especially if you can't solve it without being sneaky.(Managers make their work harder when they create an atmosphere of distrust. It's still their work.)

        – O. Jones
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      How can I give my coworker the training in the time I have left?




      You don't, this is your boss's job to assign not yours. When you resign from the company, your boss will decide who ( if anyone ) will be trained to fill your role. They will also decide if you will be the one doing the training or not.






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      • It's admirable of you to worry about continuity. But, honestly, solving that problem is not on you. Manager work is actually hard, and this is manager work. Let this problem go, especially if you can't solve it without being sneaky.(Managers make their work harder when they create an atmosphere of distrust. It's still their work.)

        – O. Jones
        6 hours ago













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      How can I give my coworker the training in the time I have left?




      You don't, this is your boss's job to assign not yours. When you resign from the company, your boss will decide who ( if anyone ) will be trained to fill your role. They will also decide if you will be the one doing the training or not.






      share|improve this answer














      How can I give my coworker the training in the time I have left?




      You don't, this is your boss's job to assign not yours. When you resign from the company, your boss will decide who ( if anyone ) will be trained to fill your role. They will also decide if you will be the one doing the training or not.







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      sf02sf02

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      • It's admirable of you to worry about continuity. But, honestly, solving that problem is not on you. Manager work is actually hard, and this is manager work. Let this problem go, especially if you can't solve it without being sneaky.(Managers make their work harder when they create an atmosphere of distrust. It's still their work.)

        – O. Jones
        6 hours ago

















      • It's admirable of you to worry about continuity. But, honestly, solving that problem is not on you. Manager work is actually hard, and this is manager work. Let this problem go, especially if you can't solve it without being sneaky.(Managers make their work harder when they create an atmosphere of distrust. It's still their work.)

        – O. Jones
        6 hours ago
















      It's admirable of you to worry about continuity. But, honestly, solving that problem is not on you. Manager work is actually hard, and this is manager work. Let this problem go, especially if you can't solve it without being sneaky.(Managers make their work harder when they create an atmosphere of distrust. It's still their work.)

      – O. Jones
      6 hours ago





      It's admirable of you to worry about continuity. But, honestly, solving that problem is not on you. Manager work is actually hard, and this is manager work. Let this problem go, especially if you can't solve it without being sneaky.(Managers make their work harder when they create an atmosphere of distrust. It's still their work.)

      – O. Jones
      6 hours ago











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      "Getting hit by a bus"



      You're training someone to do what you do so that if you're out sick one day, get hit by a bus, or have some other emergency your company has someone ready and trained to fill in your role until you come back (or don't).



      Its just a level of insurance that your company's management should see as a "good thing" not something to fear that you're intending to leave. It just so happens to let you extricate yourself without leaving the company in the lurch when you do hand in your resignation.






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        "Getting hit by a bus"



        You're training someone to do what you do so that if you're out sick one day, get hit by a bus, or have some other emergency your company has someone ready and trained to fill in your role until you come back (or don't).



        Its just a level of insurance that your company's management should see as a "good thing" not something to fear that you're intending to leave. It just so happens to let you extricate yourself without leaving the company in the lurch when you do hand in your resignation.






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          6








          6







          "Getting hit by a bus"



          You're training someone to do what you do so that if you're out sick one day, get hit by a bus, or have some other emergency your company has someone ready and trained to fill in your role until you come back (or don't).



          Its just a level of insurance that your company's management should see as a "good thing" not something to fear that you're intending to leave. It just so happens to let you extricate yourself without leaving the company in the lurch when you do hand in your resignation.






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          "Getting hit by a bus"



          You're training someone to do what you do so that if you're out sick one day, get hit by a bus, or have some other emergency your company has someone ready and trained to fill in your role until you come back (or don't).



          Its just a level of insurance that your company's management should see as a "good thing" not something to fear that you're intending to leave. It just so happens to let you extricate yourself without leaving the company in the lurch when you do hand in your resignation.







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              4















              My bosses cannot know that I am considering leaving, because they will
              make my worklife miserable.



              I want my coworker to be well established to fill my role and be in
              line for promotion and a good opportunity after my departure. We are
              not close, but I know that they are in such a situation as to benefit
              greatly personally and professionally. So I also do not want to let
              them in on my plan. Especially as it may cause bad repercussions for
              them if they are found to knowingly go along with my plan.




              So your plan is to sneak around and be deceptive, both to your bosses and your colleague?



              That doesn't sound like a good plan.



              I can understand your not wanting to tip your hand to your bosses, but involving your colleague in your plan without their knowledge is deceptive, dishonest, and could potentially put their job in jeopardy.



              I'd caution you to rethink your approach to this issue.






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              • 3





                "Don't worry boss man, I trained Bob! He knows all about it!"

                – Dan
                8 hours ago






              • 1





                I do not want to deceive anyone. I do not plan on lying. I do not think this information is something they have a right to. Why is that deception?

                – RR 2
                8 hours ago






              • 2





                I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

                – joeqwerty
                7 hours ago
















              4















              My bosses cannot know that I am considering leaving, because they will
              make my worklife miserable.



              I want my coworker to be well established to fill my role and be in
              line for promotion and a good opportunity after my departure. We are
              not close, but I know that they are in such a situation as to benefit
              greatly personally and professionally. So I also do not want to let
              them in on my plan. Especially as it may cause bad repercussions for
              them if they are found to knowingly go along with my plan.




              So your plan is to sneak around and be deceptive, both to your bosses and your colleague?



              That doesn't sound like a good plan.



              I can understand your not wanting to tip your hand to your bosses, but involving your colleague in your plan without their knowledge is deceptive, dishonest, and could potentially put their job in jeopardy.



              I'd caution you to rethink your approach to this issue.






              share|improve this answer




















              • 3





                "Don't worry boss man, I trained Bob! He knows all about it!"

                – Dan
                8 hours ago






              • 1





                I do not want to deceive anyone. I do not plan on lying. I do not think this information is something they have a right to. Why is that deception?

                – RR 2
                8 hours ago






              • 2





                I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

                – joeqwerty
                7 hours ago














              4












              4








              4








              My bosses cannot know that I am considering leaving, because they will
              make my worklife miserable.



              I want my coworker to be well established to fill my role and be in
              line for promotion and a good opportunity after my departure. We are
              not close, but I know that they are in such a situation as to benefit
              greatly personally and professionally. So I also do not want to let
              them in on my plan. Especially as it may cause bad repercussions for
              them if they are found to knowingly go along with my plan.




              So your plan is to sneak around and be deceptive, both to your bosses and your colleague?



              That doesn't sound like a good plan.



              I can understand your not wanting to tip your hand to your bosses, but involving your colleague in your plan without their knowledge is deceptive, dishonest, and could potentially put their job in jeopardy.



              I'd caution you to rethink your approach to this issue.






              share|improve this answer














              My bosses cannot know that I am considering leaving, because they will
              make my worklife miserable.



              I want my coworker to be well established to fill my role and be in
              line for promotion and a good opportunity after my departure. We are
              not close, but I know that they are in such a situation as to benefit
              greatly personally and professionally. So I also do not want to let
              them in on my plan. Especially as it may cause bad repercussions for
              them if they are found to knowingly go along with my plan.




              So your plan is to sneak around and be deceptive, both to your bosses and your colleague?



              That doesn't sound like a good plan.



              I can understand your not wanting to tip your hand to your bosses, but involving your colleague in your plan without their knowledge is deceptive, dishonest, and could potentially put their job in jeopardy.



              I'd caution you to rethink your approach to this issue.







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              answered 8 hours ago









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              • 3





                "Don't worry boss man, I trained Bob! He knows all about it!"

                – Dan
                8 hours ago






              • 1





                I do not want to deceive anyone. I do not plan on lying. I do not think this information is something they have a right to. Why is that deception?

                – RR 2
                8 hours ago






              • 2





                I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

                – joeqwerty
                7 hours ago













              • 3





                "Don't worry boss man, I trained Bob! He knows all about it!"

                – Dan
                8 hours ago






              • 1





                I do not want to deceive anyone. I do not plan on lying. I do not think this information is something they have a right to. Why is that deception?

                – RR 2
                8 hours ago






              • 2





                I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

                – joeqwerty
                7 hours ago








              3




              3





              "Don't worry boss man, I trained Bob! He knows all about it!"

              – Dan
              8 hours ago





              "Don't worry boss man, I trained Bob! He knows all about it!"

              – Dan
              8 hours ago




              1




              1





              I do not want to deceive anyone. I do not plan on lying. I do not think this information is something they have a right to. Why is that deception?

              – RR 2
              8 hours ago





              I do not want to deceive anyone. I do not plan on lying. I do not think this information is something they have a right to. Why is that deception?

              – RR 2
              8 hours ago




              2




              2





              I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

              – joeqwerty
              7 hours ago






              I'll give you several types of dishonest behavior that I think apply here. Look them up: 1. Lying by vagueness or ambiguity. 2. Lying by omission. 3. Withholding. 4. Tacit dishonesty.

              – joeqwerty
              7 hours ago












              1














              You don't because the only ethical way to do what you suggest is if you could train this person on your own time, on your own equipment, outside of business offices. Or if your employer has a loop-hole allowing you to spend hours training people however you like which it doesn't sound like.




              But perhaps I'm becoming the thing I hate, but being partial myself?




              Absolutely. The fact you have your job proves that your employer is not as bad as you paint them. Unless you're saying that you don't really deserve the title/role you have. So we know that they aren't always bad & that they (according to you) aren't always good. That describes like 99% of the employers people actually want to work for, you know.



              At any rate it's your employer's prerogative to manage employee positions. Not yours. Sometimes employers ask employees for advice/opinions on promotions but that's not the case here. Maybe if you told your employer that you're leaving they would give you the opportunity to help them train/select someone. Obviously you'd also face the risk of being shown the door before you want.






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                You don't because the only ethical way to do what you suggest is if you could train this person on your own time, on your own equipment, outside of business offices. Or if your employer has a loop-hole allowing you to spend hours training people however you like which it doesn't sound like.




                But perhaps I'm becoming the thing I hate, but being partial myself?




                Absolutely. The fact you have your job proves that your employer is not as bad as you paint them. Unless you're saying that you don't really deserve the title/role you have. So we know that they aren't always bad & that they (according to you) aren't always good. That describes like 99% of the employers people actually want to work for, you know.



                At any rate it's your employer's prerogative to manage employee positions. Not yours. Sometimes employers ask employees for advice/opinions on promotions but that's not the case here. Maybe if you told your employer that you're leaving they would give you the opportunity to help them train/select someone. Obviously you'd also face the risk of being shown the door before you want.






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                  1







                  You don't because the only ethical way to do what you suggest is if you could train this person on your own time, on your own equipment, outside of business offices. Or if your employer has a loop-hole allowing you to spend hours training people however you like which it doesn't sound like.




                  But perhaps I'm becoming the thing I hate, but being partial myself?




                  Absolutely. The fact you have your job proves that your employer is not as bad as you paint them. Unless you're saying that you don't really deserve the title/role you have. So we know that they aren't always bad & that they (according to you) aren't always good. That describes like 99% of the employers people actually want to work for, you know.



                  At any rate it's your employer's prerogative to manage employee positions. Not yours. Sometimes employers ask employees for advice/opinions on promotions but that's not the case here. Maybe if you told your employer that you're leaving they would give you the opportunity to help them train/select someone. Obviously you'd also face the risk of being shown the door before you want.






                  share|improve this answer













                  You don't because the only ethical way to do what you suggest is if you could train this person on your own time, on your own equipment, outside of business offices. Or if your employer has a loop-hole allowing you to spend hours training people however you like which it doesn't sound like.




                  But perhaps I'm becoming the thing I hate, but being partial myself?




                  Absolutely. The fact you have your job proves that your employer is not as bad as you paint them. Unless you're saying that you don't really deserve the title/role you have. So we know that they aren't always bad & that they (according to you) aren't always good. That describes like 99% of the employers people actually want to work for, you know.



                  At any rate it's your employer's prerogative to manage employee positions. Not yours. Sometimes employers ask employees for advice/opinions on promotions but that's not the case here. Maybe if you told your employer that you're leaving they would give you the opportunity to help them train/select someone. Obviously you'd also face the risk of being shown the door before you want.







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