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We know that the Roman Empire became a Christian state. Was it illegal to blaspheme God in Antioch in 360.-410.? What punishment was prescribed (if it was illegal)? If it was punishable, who could carry out the punishment?
Edit (reason for asking this question).
I have read the following from St. John Chrysostom in Homily 1 on the Statues:
But since our discourse has now turned to the subject of blasphemy, I
desire to ask one favor of you all, in return for this my address, and
speaking with you; which is, that you will correct on my behalf the
blasphemers of this city. And should you hear any one in the public
thoroughfare, or in the midst of the forum, blaspheming God; go up to
him and rebuke him; and should it be necessary to inflict blows, spare
not to do so. Smite him on the face; strike his mouth; sanctify your
hand with the blow, and if any should accuse you, and drag you to the
place of justice, follow them there; and when the judge on the bench
calls you to account, say boldly that the man blasphemed the King of
angels! For if it be necessary to punish those who blaspheme an
earthly king, much more so those who insult God. It is a common crime,
a public injury; and it is lawful for every one who is willing, to
bring forward an accusation. Let the Jews and Greeks learn, that the
Christians are the saviours of the city; that they are its guardians,
its patrons, and its teachers. Let the dissolute and the perverse also
learn this; that they must fear the servants of God too; that if at
any time they are inclined to utter such a thing, they may look round
every way at each other, and tremble even at their own shadows,
anxious lest perchance a Christian, having heard what they said,
should spring upon them and sharply chastise them.
So I am interested in the law governing blasphemy at time when he spoke those words. We can also read:
This Homily was delivered in the Old Church of Antioch, while St.
Chrysostom was yet a Presbyter...
We can here read:
John was ordained as a deacon in 381 by Saint Meletius of Antioch who
was not then in communion with Alexandria and Rome. After the death of
Meletius, John separated himself from the followers of Meletius,
without joining Paulinus, the rival of Meletius for the bishopric of
Antioch. But after the death of Paulinus he was ordained a presbyter
(priest) in 386 by Evagrius, the successor of Paulinus.
We can also read in the same source that:
In the autumn of 397, John was appointed Archbishop of Constantinople,
after having been nominated without his knowledge by the eunuch
Eutropius.
So pardon for my rough approximation in the original post, I would really like to know the law which governed blasphemy (of Christ) in Antioch in the period of 386.-397.
ancient-rome law christianity
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We know that the Roman Empire became a Christian state. Was it illegal to blaspheme God in Antioch in 360.-410.? What punishment was prescribed (if it was illegal)? If it was punishable, who could carry out the punishment?
Edit (reason for asking this question).
I have read the following from St. John Chrysostom in Homily 1 on the Statues:
But since our discourse has now turned to the subject of blasphemy, I
desire to ask one favor of you all, in return for this my address, and
speaking with you; which is, that you will correct on my behalf the
blasphemers of this city. And should you hear any one in the public
thoroughfare, or in the midst of the forum, blaspheming God; go up to
him and rebuke him; and should it be necessary to inflict blows, spare
not to do so. Smite him on the face; strike his mouth; sanctify your
hand with the blow, and if any should accuse you, and drag you to the
place of justice, follow them there; and when the judge on the bench
calls you to account, say boldly that the man blasphemed the King of
angels! For if it be necessary to punish those who blaspheme an
earthly king, much more so those who insult God. It is a common crime,
a public injury; and it is lawful for every one who is willing, to
bring forward an accusation. Let the Jews and Greeks learn, that the
Christians are the saviours of the city; that they are its guardians,
its patrons, and its teachers. Let the dissolute and the perverse also
learn this; that they must fear the servants of God too; that if at
any time they are inclined to utter such a thing, they may look round
every way at each other, and tremble even at their own shadows,
anxious lest perchance a Christian, having heard what they said,
should spring upon them and sharply chastise them.
So I am interested in the law governing blasphemy at time when he spoke those words. We can also read:
This Homily was delivered in the Old Church of Antioch, while St.
Chrysostom was yet a Presbyter...
We can here read:
John was ordained as a deacon in 381 by Saint Meletius of Antioch who
was not then in communion with Alexandria and Rome. After the death of
Meletius, John separated himself from the followers of Meletius,
without joining Paulinus, the rival of Meletius for the bishopric of
Antioch. But after the death of Paulinus he was ordained a presbyter
(priest) in 386 by Evagrius, the successor of Paulinus.
We can also read in the same source that:
In the autumn of 397, John was appointed Archbishop of Constantinople,
after having been nominated without his knowledge by the eunuch
Eutropius.
So pardon for my rough approximation in the original post, I would really like to know the law which governed blasphemy (of Christ) in Antioch in the period of 386.-397.
ancient-rome law christianity
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We know that the Roman Empire became a Christian state. Was it illegal to blaspheme God in Antioch in 360.-410.? What punishment was prescribed (if it was illegal)? If it was punishable, who could carry out the punishment?
Edit (reason for asking this question).
I have read the following from St. John Chrysostom in Homily 1 on the Statues:
But since our discourse has now turned to the subject of blasphemy, I
desire to ask one favor of you all, in return for this my address, and
speaking with you; which is, that you will correct on my behalf the
blasphemers of this city. And should you hear any one in the public
thoroughfare, or in the midst of the forum, blaspheming God; go up to
him and rebuke him; and should it be necessary to inflict blows, spare
not to do so. Smite him on the face; strike his mouth; sanctify your
hand with the blow, and if any should accuse you, and drag you to the
place of justice, follow them there; and when the judge on the bench
calls you to account, say boldly that the man blasphemed the King of
angels! For if it be necessary to punish those who blaspheme an
earthly king, much more so those who insult God. It is a common crime,
a public injury; and it is lawful for every one who is willing, to
bring forward an accusation. Let the Jews and Greeks learn, that the
Christians are the saviours of the city; that they are its guardians,
its patrons, and its teachers. Let the dissolute and the perverse also
learn this; that they must fear the servants of God too; that if at
any time they are inclined to utter such a thing, they may look round
every way at each other, and tremble even at their own shadows,
anxious lest perchance a Christian, having heard what they said,
should spring upon them and sharply chastise them.
So I am interested in the law governing blasphemy at time when he spoke those words. We can also read:
This Homily was delivered in the Old Church of Antioch, while St.
Chrysostom was yet a Presbyter...
We can here read:
John was ordained as a deacon in 381 by Saint Meletius of Antioch who
was not then in communion with Alexandria and Rome. After the death of
Meletius, John separated himself from the followers of Meletius,
without joining Paulinus, the rival of Meletius for the bishopric of
Antioch. But after the death of Paulinus he was ordained a presbyter
(priest) in 386 by Evagrius, the successor of Paulinus.
We can also read in the same source that:
In the autumn of 397, John was appointed Archbishop of Constantinople,
after having been nominated without his knowledge by the eunuch
Eutropius.
So pardon for my rough approximation in the original post, I would really like to know the law which governed blasphemy (of Christ) in Antioch in the period of 386.-397.
ancient-rome law christianity
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We know that the Roman Empire became a Christian state. Was it illegal to blaspheme God in Antioch in 360.-410.? What punishment was prescribed (if it was illegal)? If it was punishable, who could carry out the punishment?
Edit (reason for asking this question).
I have read the following from St. John Chrysostom in Homily 1 on the Statues:
But since our discourse has now turned to the subject of blasphemy, I
desire to ask one favor of you all, in return for this my address, and
speaking with you; which is, that you will correct on my behalf the
blasphemers of this city. And should you hear any one in the public
thoroughfare, or in the midst of the forum, blaspheming God; go up to
him and rebuke him; and should it be necessary to inflict blows, spare
not to do so. Smite him on the face; strike his mouth; sanctify your
hand with the blow, and if any should accuse you, and drag you to the
place of justice, follow them there; and when the judge on the bench
calls you to account, say boldly that the man blasphemed the King of
angels! For if it be necessary to punish those who blaspheme an
earthly king, much more so those who insult God. It is a common crime,
a public injury; and it is lawful for every one who is willing, to
bring forward an accusation. Let the Jews and Greeks learn, that the
Christians are the saviours of the city; that they are its guardians,
its patrons, and its teachers. Let the dissolute and the perverse also
learn this; that they must fear the servants of God too; that if at
any time they are inclined to utter such a thing, they may look round
every way at each other, and tremble even at their own shadows,
anxious lest perchance a Christian, having heard what they said,
should spring upon them and sharply chastise them.
So I am interested in the law governing blasphemy at time when he spoke those words. We can also read:
This Homily was delivered in the Old Church of Antioch, while St.
Chrysostom was yet a Presbyter...
We can here read:
John was ordained as a deacon in 381 by Saint Meletius of Antioch who
was not then in communion with Alexandria and Rome. After the death of
Meletius, John separated himself from the followers of Meletius,
without joining Paulinus, the rival of Meletius for the bishopric of
Antioch. But after the death of Paulinus he was ordained a presbyter
(priest) in 386 by Evagrius, the successor of Paulinus.
We can also read in the same source that:
In the autumn of 397, John was appointed Archbishop of Constantinople,
after having been nominated without his knowledge by the eunuch
Eutropius.
So pardon for my rough approximation in the original post, I would really like to know the law which governed blasphemy (of Christ) in Antioch in the period of 386.-397.
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Well, if we can change venue to Alexandria, which was a Roman city in Egypt with roughly similar standing to Antioch (they both housed a Christian Patriarch), and roll the date forward by only 5 years, then the fate of Hypatia might be a pretty good guide.
The short version is that she was a pagan philosopher, who was well-liked in the pagan community, and was a close friend and advisor to the Roman Prefect. When the Prefect got into a political dispute with the new Bishop of Alexandria, she became a target. Eventually a Christian mob captured her and ... well did about all the disgusting things you can imagine a mob doing to a target, and then some.
What this incident tells us:
Being pagan (and teaching philosophy that wasn't Christian) was not against the law. Not only was she able to do that openly in Alexandria, but it didn't stop her from being pals with the person primarily in charge of enforcing Roman Law in the city. Additionally, she wasn't the only one. There was an entire community of Pagans.
We have a pretty good idea she was accused of all kinds of blasphemous things, not only because that's what would be required to rile a Christian crowd into a lynch mob, but because there seems to be a memory of them from the later writings of Bishop John of Niku:
and she was devoted at all times to magic, astrolabes and instruments
of music, and she beguiled many people through her Satanic wiles. And
the governor of the city honored her exceedingly; for she had
beguiled him through her magic.
Apparently these charges were not something one could take to the secular authorities to get someone arrested, or the mob would not have been nessecary. So it wasn't against the law.
One might note from the question's Chrysostom passage that he specifically suggested listeners take physical (violent) actions themselves when they see such a "crime", which also indicates that simply having the person antiseptically arrested and handed over to authorities is not actually an option.
Anyone from a minority community can tell you there's often a large difference between what's technically legal for them to do, and what the majority will actually allow them to do. Hypatia would probably tell you the same, if she could.
Agreeing with this--some additional data: Theodosius may have made Christianity the official religion, but the emperors didn't make a sharp break in state traditions, not even to accommodate the church. This is especially noticeable in divorce law. Divorce had always been possible under Roman law, and the emperors refused to change this even though the church wanted them to.
– C Monsour
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It's an interesting questions how much of the hatred aimed at Hypatia was due to her paganism and how much was due to being a woman in a man's world.
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In 361-363 the Empire was ruled by a pagan emperor. His successors were Christian, but the empire was still a multi-religious state. It is only in 381 (under Theodosius) that introduction of uniformity and persecution of non-Christians began. So you can expect blasphemy laws from that time only and they were gradually introduced.
The citation from John Chrysostom that you give supports this: he calls to
"rebuke and inflict blows" rather than "denounce to the authorities". Which makes it clear that blasphemy was not illegal at the time he wrote this.
Thanks for the answer.
– Thom
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Yes. In modern terms, he is counseling the use of assault & battery to intimidate non-believers.
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To blaspheme which god? In 363, if you blasphemed the pagan gods, an emperor wrote disparagingly about your city. If you blasphemed Christ, the Persian army slew you at Samarra.
This doesn't apply to the other years. It's interesting that you included Julian's reign.
I will add references tonight when near a proper keyboard.
By God I meant Christ. Thanks a lot for your answer.
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Well, if we can change venue to Alexandria, which was a Roman city in Egypt with roughly similar standing to Antioch (they both housed a Christian Patriarch), and roll the date forward by only 5 years, then the fate of Hypatia might be a pretty good guide.
The short version is that she was a pagan philosopher, who was well-liked in the pagan community, and was a close friend and advisor to the Roman Prefect. When the Prefect got into a political dispute with the new Bishop of Alexandria, she became a target. Eventually a Christian mob captured her and ... well did about all the disgusting things you can imagine a mob doing to a target, and then some.
What this incident tells us:
Being pagan (and teaching philosophy that wasn't Christian) was not against the law. Not only was she able to do that openly in Alexandria, but it didn't stop her from being pals with the person primarily in charge of enforcing Roman Law in the city. Additionally, she wasn't the only one. There was an entire community of Pagans.
We have a pretty good idea she was accused of all kinds of blasphemous things, not only because that's what would be required to rile a Christian crowd into a lynch mob, but because there seems to be a memory of them from the later writings of Bishop John of Niku:
and she was devoted at all times to magic, astrolabes and instruments
of music, and she beguiled many people through her Satanic wiles. And
the governor of the city honored her exceedingly; for she had
beguiled him through her magic.
Apparently these charges were not something one could take to the secular authorities to get someone arrested, or the mob would not have been nessecary. So it wasn't against the law.
One might note from the question's Chrysostom passage that he specifically suggested listeners take physical (violent) actions themselves when they see such a "crime", which also indicates that simply having the person antiseptically arrested and handed over to authorities is not actually an option.
Anyone from a minority community can tell you there's often a large difference between what's technically legal for them to do, and what the majority will actually allow them to do. Hypatia would probably tell you the same, if she could.
Agreeing with this--some additional data: Theodosius may have made Christianity the official religion, but the emperors didn't make a sharp break in state traditions, not even to accommodate the church. This is especially noticeable in divorce law. Divorce had always been possible under Roman law, and the emperors refused to change this even though the church wanted them to.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
It's an interesting questions how much of the hatred aimed at Hypatia was due to her paganism and how much was due to being a woman in a man's world.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Well, if we can change venue to Alexandria, which was a Roman city in Egypt with roughly similar standing to Antioch (they both housed a Christian Patriarch), and roll the date forward by only 5 years, then the fate of Hypatia might be a pretty good guide.
The short version is that she was a pagan philosopher, who was well-liked in the pagan community, and was a close friend and advisor to the Roman Prefect. When the Prefect got into a political dispute with the new Bishop of Alexandria, she became a target. Eventually a Christian mob captured her and ... well did about all the disgusting things you can imagine a mob doing to a target, and then some.
What this incident tells us:
Being pagan (and teaching philosophy that wasn't Christian) was not against the law. Not only was she able to do that openly in Alexandria, but it didn't stop her from being pals with the person primarily in charge of enforcing Roman Law in the city. Additionally, she wasn't the only one. There was an entire community of Pagans.
We have a pretty good idea she was accused of all kinds of blasphemous things, not only because that's what would be required to rile a Christian crowd into a lynch mob, but because there seems to be a memory of them from the later writings of Bishop John of Niku:
and she was devoted at all times to magic, astrolabes and instruments
of music, and she beguiled many people through her Satanic wiles. And
the governor of the city honored her exceedingly; for she had
beguiled him through her magic.
Apparently these charges were not something one could take to the secular authorities to get someone arrested, or the mob would not have been nessecary. So it wasn't against the law.
One might note from the question's Chrysostom passage that he specifically suggested listeners take physical (violent) actions themselves when they see such a "crime", which also indicates that simply having the person antiseptically arrested and handed over to authorities is not actually an option.
Anyone from a minority community can tell you there's often a large difference between what's technically legal for them to do, and what the majority will actually allow them to do. Hypatia would probably tell you the same, if she could.
Agreeing with this--some additional data: Theodosius may have made Christianity the official religion, but the emperors didn't make a sharp break in state traditions, not even to accommodate the church. This is especially noticeable in divorce law. Divorce had always been possible under Roman law, and the emperors refused to change this even though the church wanted them to.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
It's an interesting questions how much of the hatred aimed at Hypatia was due to her paganism and how much was due to being a woman in a man's world.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Well, if we can change venue to Alexandria, which was a Roman city in Egypt with roughly similar standing to Antioch (they both housed a Christian Patriarch), and roll the date forward by only 5 years, then the fate of Hypatia might be a pretty good guide.
The short version is that she was a pagan philosopher, who was well-liked in the pagan community, and was a close friend and advisor to the Roman Prefect. When the Prefect got into a political dispute with the new Bishop of Alexandria, she became a target. Eventually a Christian mob captured her and ... well did about all the disgusting things you can imagine a mob doing to a target, and then some.
What this incident tells us:
Being pagan (and teaching philosophy that wasn't Christian) was not against the law. Not only was she able to do that openly in Alexandria, but it didn't stop her from being pals with the person primarily in charge of enforcing Roman Law in the city. Additionally, she wasn't the only one. There was an entire community of Pagans.
We have a pretty good idea she was accused of all kinds of blasphemous things, not only because that's what would be required to rile a Christian crowd into a lynch mob, but because there seems to be a memory of them from the later writings of Bishop John of Niku:
and she was devoted at all times to magic, astrolabes and instruments
of music, and she beguiled many people through her Satanic wiles. And
the governor of the city honored her exceedingly; for she had
beguiled him through her magic.
Apparently these charges were not something one could take to the secular authorities to get someone arrested, or the mob would not have been nessecary. So it wasn't against the law.
One might note from the question's Chrysostom passage that he specifically suggested listeners take physical (violent) actions themselves when they see such a "crime", which also indicates that simply having the person antiseptically arrested and handed over to authorities is not actually an option.
Anyone from a minority community can tell you there's often a large difference between what's technically legal for them to do, and what the majority will actually allow them to do. Hypatia would probably tell you the same, if she could.
Well, if we can change venue to Alexandria, which was a Roman city in Egypt with roughly similar standing to Antioch (they both housed a Christian Patriarch), and roll the date forward by only 5 years, then the fate of Hypatia might be a pretty good guide.
The short version is that she was a pagan philosopher, who was well-liked in the pagan community, and was a close friend and advisor to the Roman Prefect. When the Prefect got into a political dispute with the new Bishop of Alexandria, she became a target. Eventually a Christian mob captured her and ... well did about all the disgusting things you can imagine a mob doing to a target, and then some.
What this incident tells us:
Being pagan (and teaching philosophy that wasn't Christian) was not against the law. Not only was she able to do that openly in Alexandria, but it didn't stop her from being pals with the person primarily in charge of enforcing Roman Law in the city. Additionally, she wasn't the only one. There was an entire community of Pagans.
We have a pretty good idea she was accused of all kinds of blasphemous things, not only because that's what would be required to rile a Christian crowd into a lynch mob, but because there seems to be a memory of them from the later writings of Bishop John of Niku:
and she was devoted at all times to magic, astrolabes and instruments
of music, and she beguiled many people through her Satanic wiles. And
the governor of the city honored her exceedingly; for she had
beguiled him through her magic.
Apparently these charges were not something one could take to the secular authorities to get someone arrested, or the mob would not have been nessecary. So it wasn't against the law.
One might note from the question's Chrysostom passage that he specifically suggested listeners take physical (violent) actions themselves when they see such a "crime", which also indicates that simply having the person antiseptically arrested and handed over to authorities is not actually an option.
Anyone from a minority community can tell you there's often a large difference between what's technically legal for them to do, and what the majority will actually allow them to do. Hypatia would probably tell you the same, if she could.
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Agreeing with this--some additional data: Theodosius may have made Christianity the official religion, but the emperors didn't make a sharp break in state traditions, not even to accommodate the church. This is especially noticeable in divorce law. Divorce had always been possible under Roman law, and the emperors refused to change this even though the church wanted them to.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
It's an interesting questions how much of the hatred aimed at Hypatia was due to her paganism and how much was due to being a woman in a man's world.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
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Agreeing with this--some additional data: Theodosius may have made Christianity the official religion, but the emperors didn't make a sharp break in state traditions, not even to accommodate the church. This is especially noticeable in divorce law. Divorce had always been possible under Roman law, and the emperors refused to change this even though the church wanted them to.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
It's an interesting questions how much of the hatred aimed at Hypatia was due to her paganism and how much was due to being a woman in a man's world.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
Agreeing with this--some additional data: Theodosius may have made Christianity the official religion, but the emperors didn't make a sharp break in state traditions, not even to accommodate the church. This is especially noticeable in divorce law. Divorce had always been possible under Roman law, and the emperors refused to change this even though the church wanted them to.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
Agreeing with this--some additional data: Theodosius may have made Christianity the official religion, but the emperors didn't make a sharp break in state traditions, not even to accommodate the church. This is especially noticeable in divorce law. Divorce had always been possible under Roman law, and the emperors refused to change this even though the church wanted them to.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
It's an interesting questions how much of the hatred aimed at Hypatia was due to her paganism and how much was due to being a woman in a man's world.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
It's an interesting questions how much of the hatred aimed at Hypatia was due to her paganism and how much was due to being a woman in a man's world.
– C Monsour
3 hours ago
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In 361-363 the Empire was ruled by a pagan emperor. His successors were Christian, but the empire was still a multi-religious state. It is only in 381 (under Theodosius) that introduction of uniformity and persecution of non-Christians began. So you can expect blasphemy laws from that time only and they were gradually introduced.
The citation from John Chrysostom that you give supports this: he calls to
"rebuke and inflict blows" rather than "denounce to the authorities". Which makes it clear that blasphemy was not illegal at the time he wrote this.
Thanks for the answer.
– Thom
6 hours ago
Yes. In modern terms, he is counseling the use of assault & battery to intimidate non-believers.
– jamesqf
1 hour ago
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In 361-363 the Empire was ruled by a pagan emperor. His successors were Christian, but the empire was still a multi-religious state. It is only in 381 (under Theodosius) that introduction of uniformity and persecution of non-Christians began. So you can expect blasphemy laws from that time only and they were gradually introduced.
The citation from John Chrysostom that you give supports this: he calls to
"rebuke and inflict blows" rather than "denounce to the authorities". Which makes it clear that blasphemy was not illegal at the time he wrote this.
Thanks for the answer.
– Thom
6 hours ago
Yes. In modern terms, he is counseling the use of assault & battery to intimidate non-believers.
– jamesqf
1 hour ago
add a comment |
In 361-363 the Empire was ruled by a pagan emperor. His successors were Christian, but the empire was still a multi-religious state. It is only in 381 (under Theodosius) that introduction of uniformity and persecution of non-Christians began. So you can expect blasphemy laws from that time only and they were gradually introduced.
The citation from John Chrysostom that you give supports this: he calls to
"rebuke and inflict blows" rather than "denounce to the authorities". Which makes it clear that blasphemy was not illegal at the time he wrote this.
In 361-363 the Empire was ruled by a pagan emperor. His successors were Christian, but the empire was still a multi-religious state. It is only in 381 (under Theodosius) that introduction of uniformity and persecution of non-Christians began. So you can expect blasphemy laws from that time only and they were gradually introduced.
The citation from John Chrysostom that you give supports this: he calls to
"rebuke and inflict blows" rather than "denounce to the authorities". Which makes it clear that blasphemy was not illegal at the time he wrote this.
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Thanks for the answer.
– Thom
6 hours ago
Yes. In modern terms, he is counseling the use of assault & battery to intimidate non-believers.
– jamesqf
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Thanks for the answer.
– Thom
6 hours ago
Yes. In modern terms, he is counseling the use of assault & battery to intimidate non-believers.
– jamesqf
1 hour ago
Thanks for the answer.
– Thom
6 hours ago
Thanks for the answer.
– Thom
6 hours ago
Yes. In modern terms, he is counseling the use of assault & battery to intimidate non-believers.
– jamesqf
1 hour ago
Yes. In modern terms, he is counseling the use of assault & battery to intimidate non-believers.
– jamesqf
1 hour ago
add a comment |
To blaspheme which god? In 363, if you blasphemed the pagan gods, an emperor wrote disparagingly about your city. If you blasphemed Christ, the Persian army slew you at Samarra.
This doesn't apply to the other years. It's interesting that you included Julian's reign.
I will add references tonight when near a proper keyboard.
By God I meant Christ. Thanks a lot for your answer.
– Thom
9 hours ago
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To blaspheme which god? In 363, if you blasphemed the pagan gods, an emperor wrote disparagingly about your city. If you blasphemed Christ, the Persian army slew you at Samarra.
This doesn't apply to the other years. It's interesting that you included Julian's reign.
I will add references tonight when near a proper keyboard.
By God I meant Christ. Thanks a lot for your answer.
– Thom
9 hours ago
add a comment |
To blaspheme which god? In 363, if you blasphemed the pagan gods, an emperor wrote disparagingly about your city. If you blasphemed Christ, the Persian army slew you at Samarra.
This doesn't apply to the other years. It's interesting that you included Julian's reign.
I will add references tonight when near a proper keyboard.
To blaspheme which god? In 363, if you blasphemed the pagan gods, an emperor wrote disparagingly about your city. If you blasphemed Christ, the Persian army slew you at Samarra.
This doesn't apply to the other years. It's interesting that you included Julian's reign.
I will add references tonight when near a proper keyboard.
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By God I meant Christ. Thanks a lot for your answer.
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By God I meant Christ. Thanks a lot for your answer.
– Thom
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By God I meant Christ. Thanks a lot for your answer.
– Thom
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By God I meant Christ. Thanks a lot for your answer.
– Thom
9 hours ago
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