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Former Employer just sent me an IP Agreement
What benefits are there in signing a non-compete after resigning, with no formal contract of employment?Asking for a copy of the company handbook or employment agreement before accepting a jobCompany keeps former employee email accounts active -Is it a common practice to sign an employment-agreement with life-long obligations?How to make objective agreement measurable for project workLong employment agreementWhy would I sign a separation agreement?My company has been acquired by another company, am in an agreement with my company!Former manager who left company is asking for documentation I prepared as his direct reportHow to approach employment agreement for a role planned to be part of a spinoff IPODisclosing a confidential non-solicitation agreement
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A former employer of mine (5 years ago) just sent me an email out of the blue with an updated Intellectual Property Agreement notably more complex than the one I recall signing when I started with them. I don't really have any interest in their IP or anything I worked on with them, but I also don't really like needlessly engaging in contracts, especially with people I don't feel like I left with the best terms (I quit because they were being super shady).
The agreement looks relatively straightforward, though some of the clauses look suspiciously like non-compete agreements, and I don't see a particularly compelling reason why I should sign. What's the worst that happens to me if I don't sign (or even acknowledge) this agreement, assuming I don't do anything to violate my original agreement or anything otherwise damaging/malicious to them?
Both me and the company in question are in CO, USA.
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A former employer of mine (5 years ago) just sent me an email out of the blue with an updated Intellectual Property Agreement notably more complex than the one I recall signing when I started with them. I don't really have any interest in their IP or anything I worked on with them, but I also don't really like needlessly engaging in contracts, especially with people I don't feel like I left with the best terms (I quit because they were being super shady).
The agreement looks relatively straightforward, though some of the clauses look suspiciously like non-compete agreements, and I don't see a particularly compelling reason why I should sign. What's the worst that happens to me if I don't sign (or even acknowledge) this agreement, assuming I don't do anything to violate my original agreement or anything otherwise damaging/malicious to them?
Both me and the company in question are in CO, USA.
employment-agreement intellectual-property
7
What is forcing you to sign an IP agreement with someone you work for 5 years ago? do you do any consulting with them?
– MattR
4 hours ago
13
I'd strongly advise not signing, almost no good can come of this. Contact a lawyer if you are worried. But I expect if you don't sign nothing at all will happen. (What can they do, fire you?)
– Vality
4 hours ago
5
Possible duplicate of What benefits are there in signing a non-compete after resigning, with no formal contract of employment? The circumstances aren't exactly the same, but what's in the answers covers it.
– Blrfl
4 hours ago
5
Write back and ask what are the considerations they are making to you for signing the agreement? If they are not offering anything why would you sign?
– Martin York
3 hours ago
5
Hit the delete button and move on. There is no reason to compel you to do anything for a former employer, especially one you don't plan on returning to.
– user1723699
2 hours ago
|
show 5 more comments
A former employer of mine (5 years ago) just sent me an email out of the blue with an updated Intellectual Property Agreement notably more complex than the one I recall signing when I started with them. I don't really have any interest in their IP or anything I worked on with them, but I also don't really like needlessly engaging in contracts, especially with people I don't feel like I left with the best terms (I quit because they were being super shady).
The agreement looks relatively straightforward, though some of the clauses look suspiciously like non-compete agreements, and I don't see a particularly compelling reason why I should sign. What's the worst that happens to me if I don't sign (or even acknowledge) this agreement, assuming I don't do anything to violate my original agreement or anything otherwise damaging/malicious to them?
Both me and the company in question are in CO, USA.
employment-agreement intellectual-property
A former employer of mine (5 years ago) just sent me an email out of the blue with an updated Intellectual Property Agreement notably more complex than the one I recall signing when I started with them. I don't really have any interest in their IP or anything I worked on with them, but I also don't really like needlessly engaging in contracts, especially with people I don't feel like I left with the best terms (I quit because they were being super shady).
The agreement looks relatively straightforward, though some of the clauses look suspiciously like non-compete agreements, and I don't see a particularly compelling reason why I should sign. What's the worst that happens to me if I don't sign (or even acknowledge) this agreement, assuming I don't do anything to violate my original agreement or anything otherwise damaging/malicious to them?
Both me and the company in question are in CO, USA.
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What is forcing you to sign an IP agreement with someone you work for 5 years ago? do you do any consulting with them?
– MattR
4 hours ago
13
I'd strongly advise not signing, almost no good can come of this. Contact a lawyer if you are worried. But I expect if you don't sign nothing at all will happen. (What can they do, fire you?)
– Vality
4 hours ago
5
Possible duplicate of What benefits are there in signing a non-compete after resigning, with no formal contract of employment? The circumstances aren't exactly the same, but what's in the answers covers it.
– Blrfl
4 hours ago
5
Write back and ask what are the considerations they are making to you for signing the agreement? If they are not offering anything why would you sign?
– Martin York
3 hours ago
5
Hit the delete button and move on. There is no reason to compel you to do anything for a former employer, especially one you don't plan on returning to.
– user1723699
2 hours ago
|
show 5 more comments
7
What is forcing you to sign an IP agreement with someone you work for 5 years ago? do you do any consulting with them?
– MattR
4 hours ago
13
I'd strongly advise not signing, almost no good can come of this. Contact a lawyer if you are worried. But I expect if you don't sign nothing at all will happen. (What can they do, fire you?)
– Vality
4 hours ago
5
Possible duplicate of What benefits are there in signing a non-compete after resigning, with no formal contract of employment? The circumstances aren't exactly the same, but what's in the answers covers it.
– Blrfl
4 hours ago
5
Write back and ask what are the considerations they are making to you for signing the agreement? If they are not offering anything why would you sign?
– Martin York
3 hours ago
5
Hit the delete button and move on. There is no reason to compel you to do anything for a former employer, especially one you don't plan on returning to.
– user1723699
2 hours ago
7
7
What is forcing you to sign an IP agreement with someone you work for 5 years ago? do you do any consulting with them?
– MattR
4 hours ago
What is forcing you to sign an IP agreement with someone you work for 5 years ago? do you do any consulting with them?
– MattR
4 hours ago
13
13
I'd strongly advise not signing, almost no good can come of this. Contact a lawyer if you are worried. But I expect if you don't sign nothing at all will happen. (What can they do, fire you?)
– Vality
4 hours ago
I'd strongly advise not signing, almost no good can come of this. Contact a lawyer if you are worried. But I expect if you don't sign nothing at all will happen. (What can they do, fire you?)
– Vality
4 hours ago
5
5
Possible duplicate of What benefits are there in signing a non-compete after resigning, with no formal contract of employment? The circumstances aren't exactly the same, but what's in the answers covers it.
– Blrfl
4 hours ago
Possible duplicate of What benefits are there in signing a non-compete after resigning, with no formal contract of employment? The circumstances aren't exactly the same, but what's in the answers covers it.
– Blrfl
4 hours ago
5
5
Write back and ask what are the considerations they are making to you for signing the agreement? If they are not offering anything why would you sign?
– Martin York
3 hours ago
Write back and ask what are the considerations they are making to you for signing the agreement? If they are not offering anything why would you sign?
– Martin York
3 hours ago
5
5
Hit the delete button and move on. There is no reason to compel you to do anything for a former employer, especially one you don't plan on returning to.
– user1723699
2 hours ago
Hit the delete button and move on. There is no reason to compel you to do anything for a former employer, especially one you don't plan on returning to.
– user1723699
2 hours ago
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However straightforward it appears to be, you have nothing at all to gain from signing it. And there is the potential to lose out if you accidentally breach something after signing it.
Losing out might be getting sued, or losing the opportunity to apply for a job elsewhere.
add a comment |
Unless you're still working with them in some capacity don't sign it, they can't legally force you to sign, they have no leverage over you to make you sign it and if you do sign it you could be setting yourself up for issues in the future if you accidentally breach it somehow. I would delete the email without even responding.
add a comment |
Why not just ask them?
This could be email sent by mistake.
If they say the want you to sign it tell them to kcuf off.
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As entertaining and appealing as this answer is, contacting them just to tell them to eff off is not a productive or professional approach to the problem.
– bruglesco
2 hours ago
@bruglesco so what is a productive or professional approach?
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago
@bruglesco Such agreements are implied threats to sue you at some point in the future. Telling someone to eff off after they've gone out of their way to interrupt your life with an implied future legal threat is not professional, but it's entirely productive as it establishes immediately that you're not going to put up with it.
– Joe
30 mins ago
@Joe that's a disingenuous interpretation. The only legal implication is if you sign it. The company is acting as threatening as a Nigerian Prince asking for ten grand. The best course of action remains ignoring it.
– bruglesco
24 mins ago
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However straightforward it appears to be, you have nothing at all to gain from signing it. And there is the potential to lose out if you accidentally breach something after signing it.
Losing out might be getting sued, or losing the opportunity to apply for a job elsewhere.
add a comment |
However straightforward it appears to be, you have nothing at all to gain from signing it. And there is the potential to lose out if you accidentally breach something after signing it.
Losing out might be getting sued, or losing the opportunity to apply for a job elsewhere.
add a comment |
However straightforward it appears to be, you have nothing at all to gain from signing it. And there is the potential to lose out if you accidentally breach something after signing it.
Losing out might be getting sued, or losing the opportunity to apply for a job elsewhere.
However straightforward it appears to be, you have nothing at all to gain from signing it. And there is the potential to lose out if you accidentally breach something after signing it.
Losing out might be getting sued, or losing the opportunity to apply for a job elsewhere.
answered 4 hours ago
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Unless you're still working with them in some capacity don't sign it, they can't legally force you to sign, they have no leverage over you to make you sign it and if you do sign it you could be setting yourself up for issues in the future if you accidentally breach it somehow. I would delete the email without even responding.
add a comment |
Unless you're still working with them in some capacity don't sign it, they can't legally force you to sign, they have no leverage over you to make you sign it and if you do sign it you could be setting yourself up for issues in the future if you accidentally breach it somehow. I would delete the email without even responding.
add a comment |
Unless you're still working with them in some capacity don't sign it, they can't legally force you to sign, they have no leverage over you to make you sign it and if you do sign it you could be setting yourself up for issues in the future if you accidentally breach it somehow. I would delete the email without even responding.
Unless you're still working with them in some capacity don't sign it, they can't legally force you to sign, they have no leverage over you to make you sign it and if you do sign it you could be setting yourself up for issues in the future if you accidentally breach it somehow. I would delete the email without even responding.
answered 2 hours ago
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Why not just ask them?
This could be email sent by mistake.
If they say the want you to sign it tell them to kcuf off.
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4
As entertaining and appealing as this answer is, contacting them just to tell them to eff off is not a productive or professional approach to the problem.
– bruglesco
2 hours ago
@bruglesco so what is a productive or professional approach?
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago
@bruglesco Such agreements are implied threats to sue you at some point in the future. Telling someone to eff off after they've gone out of their way to interrupt your life with an implied future legal threat is not professional, but it's entirely productive as it establishes immediately that you're not going to put up with it.
– Joe
30 mins ago
@Joe that's a disingenuous interpretation. The only legal implication is if you sign it. The company is acting as threatening as a Nigerian Prince asking for ten grand. The best course of action remains ignoring it.
– bruglesco
24 mins ago
add a comment |
Why not just ask them?
This could be email sent by mistake.
If they say the want you to sign it tell them to kcuf off.
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Check out our Code of Conduct.
4
As entertaining and appealing as this answer is, contacting them just to tell them to eff off is not a productive or professional approach to the problem.
– bruglesco
2 hours ago
@bruglesco so what is a productive or professional approach?
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago
@bruglesco Such agreements are implied threats to sue you at some point in the future. Telling someone to eff off after they've gone out of their way to interrupt your life with an implied future legal threat is not professional, but it's entirely productive as it establishes immediately that you're not going to put up with it.
– Joe
30 mins ago
@Joe that's a disingenuous interpretation. The only legal implication is if you sign it. The company is acting as threatening as a Nigerian Prince asking for ten grand. The best course of action remains ignoring it.
– bruglesco
24 mins ago
add a comment |
Why not just ask them?
This could be email sent by mistake.
If they say the want you to sign it tell them to kcuf off.
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Bohdan is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
Why not just ask them?
This could be email sent by mistake.
If they say the want you to sign it tell them to kcuf off.
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answered 2 hours ago
BohdanBohdan
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4
As entertaining and appealing as this answer is, contacting them just to tell them to eff off is not a productive or professional approach to the problem.
– bruglesco
2 hours ago
@bruglesco so what is a productive or professional approach?
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago
@bruglesco Such agreements are implied threats to sue you at some point in the future. Telling someone to eff off after they've gone out of their way to interrupt your life with an implied future legal threat is not professional, but it's entirely productive as it establishes immediately that you're not going to put up with it.
– Joe
30 mins ago
@Joe that's a disingenuous interpretation. The only legal implication is if you sign it. The company is acting as threatening as a Nigerian Prince asking for ten grand. The best course of action remains ignoring it.
– bruglesco
24 mins ago
add a comment |
4
As entertaining and appealing as this answer is, contacting them just to tell them to eff off is not a productive or professional approach to the problem.
– bruglesco
2 hours ago
@bruglesco so what is a productive or professional approach?
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago
@bruglesco Such agreements are implied threats to sue you at some point in the future. Telling someone to eff off after they've gone out of their way to interrupt your life with an implied future legal threat is not professional, but it's entirely productive as it establishes immediately that you're not going to put up with it.
– Joe
30 mins ago
@Joe that's a disingenuous interpretation. The only legal implication is if you sign it. The company is acting as threatening as a Nigerian Prince asking for ten grand. The best course of action remains ignoring it.
– bruglesco
24 mins ago
4
4
As entertaining and appealing as this answer is, contacting them just to tell them to eff off is not a productive or professional approach to the problem.
– bruglesco
2 hours ago
As entertaining and appealing as this answer is, contacting them just to tell them to eff off is not a productive or professional approach to the problem.
– bruglesco
2 hours ago
@bruglesco so what is a productive or professional approach?
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago
@bruglesco so what is a productive or professional approach?
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago
@bruglesco Such agreements are implied threats to sue you at some point in the future. Telling someone to eff off after they've gone out of their way to interrupt your life with an implied future legal threat is not professional, but it's entirely productive as it establishes immediately that you're not going to put up with it.
– Joe
30 mins ago
@bruglesco Such agreements are implied threats to sue you at some point in the future. Telling someone to eff off after they've gone out of their way to interrupt your life with an implied future legal threat is not professional, but it's entirely productive as it establishes immediately that you're not going to put up with it.
– Joe
30 mins ago
@Joe that's a disingenuous interpretation. The only legal implication is if you sign it. The company is acting as threatening as a Nigerian Prince asking for ten grand. The best course of action remains ignoring it.
– bruglesco
24 mins ago
@Joe that's a disingenuous interpretation. The only legal implication is if you sign it. The company is acting as threatening as a Nigerian Prince asking for ten grand. The best course of action remains ignoring it.
– bruglesco
24 mins ago
add a comment |
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What is forcing you to sign an IP agreement with someone you work for 5 years ago? do you do any consulting with them?
– MattR
4 hours ago
13
I'd strongly advise not signing, almost no good can come of this. Contact a lawyer if you are worried. But I expect if you don't sign nothing at all will happen. (What can they do, fire you?)
– Vality
4 hours ago
5
Possible duplicate of What benefits are there in signing a non-compete after resigning, with no formal contract of employment? The circumstances aren't exactly the same, but what's in the answers covers it.
– Blrfl
4 hours ago
5
Write back and ask what are the considerations they are making to you for signing the agreement? If they are not offering anything why would you sign?
– Martin York
3 hours ago
5
Hit the delete button and move on. There is no reason to compel you to do anything for a former employer, especially one you don't plan on returning to.
– user1723699
2 hours ago