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The ISS uses port and starboard to differentiate between the two sides of the station.
(The Harmony node photographed after it was attached to its temporary location on the International Space Station)
Would forward always be in the direction the ship is rotating, and from there port and starboard would be determined?
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The ISS uses port and starboard to differentiate between the two sides of the station.
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Would forward always be in the direction the ship is rotating, and from there port and starboard would be determined?
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The ISS uses port and starboard to differentiate between the two sides of the station.
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Would forward always be in the direction the ship is rotating, and from there port and starboard would be determined?
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There's really no reason to assume they would use port and starbord. However, if we start from the assumption that the nautical orientations (port, starbord, fore, aft, deck, overhead) will be used, the only practical direction "fore" could be is along the direction of movement. That would in port and starboard down.
However, there are plenty of other systems out there that might be used. You might leverage the right hand rule and define them as "along rotation" and "against rotation." The right hand rule is almost universally agreed upon to be the correct way to assign direction (which really means that physics majors get violent really quickly if you try to shove a left handed coordinate system on them, and we don't like to seem them violent!) The port/starboard directions will always be either in the same direction as this rotation vector, or opposed.
Other cultures might also have their own opinions. From the reading I have done, the Chinese often deal with directions using cardinal directions. While we might say "walk down this street, take a right, and then take the next left," they might say "walk north, then turn east, and keep walking until the next chance to turn north." More interestingly, I have heard of these directions being malleable. Some martial arts schools teach that "south" is always the side that the teacher is on, regardless of the cardinal direction. This is very convenient because it makes the instructions the same, no matter what direction, while retaining the absoluteness of the direction giving they are used to.
A Chinese station might choose to label the directions north, south, east, and west, based on the position that the captain of the station is facing when he is at his post.
Depending on what orientation the spinning satellite is in, constellations might be used. We often specify coordinate systems that point towards particular zodiacs during the vernal equinox to disambiguate like this. We might talk of a rotation towards Libra or Gemini. If the spin is not in a convenient direction for this, we might pick major stars
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Using astronomical features would seem to be serious overkill and massively complicated if all you're trying to do is find your way around a space station.
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@KeithMorrison Perhaps. I wanted to just include a lot of options. If a civilization finds that they deal with a lot of different shapes of stations, and needs one way to notate directions on all of them, something complicated like a zodiac might come forth. We have all sorts of interesting ways to handle directions. Just remember, "the enemy's gate is down!"
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Space is 3D, so simply differentiating front and back isn't good enough. You need a plane that port and starboard are normal to. So you need something non-rotating down the middle; something ventral or dorsal.
Internal to the rotating section, port and starboard are meaningless. I would split it into hemicircles, much like the Earth's hemispheres. And I would refer to directions as fore and aft, or upspin and downspin.
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The people in the space station aren't dealing with 3D any more than you are walking on the exterior of a sphere right now when it comes to giving directions to get around it.
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Consider the Earth. Right now we're all on the outside of a rotating spherical object, which is essentially the inverse of your scenario, and yet people don't require massively complicated 3D navigational systems to get from place to place or to give directions. East is the direction in which the planet is rotating, and the other directions derive from that.
Using cardinal directions works for planets or fixed structures on those planets, but people will likely have a psychologically hard time using it for a space station. The easiest way I can see it working is as follows:
Spinward/forward: toward the direction you're moving tangentially.
Antispinward/backward: the opposite direction.
Port: facing spinward, the side to your left.
Starboard: facing spinward, the side to your right.
Up: Toward the axis of rotation.
Down: Away from the axis of rotation.
Simple, and straightforward. Because the spin direction is fixed, it's something everyone can agree on, and because you've got simulated gravity, everyone has the same understanding of "up" and "down", just as we do on Earth even though. Everything else derives from that.
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Do it like the Right Ascension of the Ascending Node (RAAN) in orbital mechanics. Chose a reference frame and link your starboard and port to that.
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There's really no reason to assume they would use port and starbord. However, if we start from the assumption that the nautical orientations (port, starbord, fore, aft, deck, overhead) will be used, the only practical direction "fore" could be is along the direction of movement. That would in port and starboard down.
However, there are plenty of other systems out there that might be used. You might leverage the right hand rule and define them as "along rotation" and "against rotation." The right hand rule is almost universally agreed upon to be the correct way to assign direction (which really means that physics majors get violent really quickly if you try to shove a left handed coordinate system on them, and we don't like to seem them violent!) The port/starboard directions will always be either in the same direction as this rotation vector, or opposed.
Other cultures might also have their own opinions. From the reading I have done, the Chinese often deal with directions using cardinal directions. While we might say "walk down this street, take a right, and then take the next left," they might say "walk north, then turn east, and keep walking until the next chance to turn north." More interestingly, I have heard of these directions being malleable. Some martial arts schools teach that "south" is always the side that the teacher is on, regardless of the cardinal direction. This is very convenient because it makes the instructions the same, no matter what direction, while retaining the absoluteness of the direction giving they are used to.
A Chinese station might choose to label the directions north, south, east, and west, based on the position that the captain of the station is facing when he is at his post.
Depending on what orientation the spinning satellite is in, constellations might be used. We often specify coordinate systems that point towards particular zodiacs during the vernal equinox to disambiguate like this. We might talk of a rotation towards Libra or Gemini. If the spin is not in a convenient direction for this, we might pick major stars
answered 8 hours ago
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Using astronomical features would seem to be serious overkill and massively complicated if all you're trying to do is find your way around a space station.
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– Keith Morrison
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@KeithMorrison Perhaps. I wanted to just include a lot of options. If a civilization finds that they deal with a lot of different shapes of stations, and needs one way to notate directions on all of them, something complicated like a zodiac might come forth. We have all sorts of interesting ways to handle directions. Just remember, "the enemy's gate is down!"
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There's really no reason to assume they would use port and starbord. However, if we start from the assumption that the nautical orientations (port, starbord, fore, aft, deck, overhead) will be used, the only practical direction "fore" could be is along the direction of movement. That would in port and starboard down.
However, there are plenty of other systems out there that might be used. You might leverage the right hand rule and define them as "along rotation" and "against rotation." The right hand rule is almost universally agreed upon to be the correct way to assign direction (which really means that physics majors get violent really quickly if you try to shove a left handed coordinate system on them, and we don't like to seem them violent!) The port/starboard directions will always be either in the same direction as this rotation vector, or opposed.
Other cultures might also have their own opinions. From the reading I have done, the Chinese often deal with directions using cardinal directions. While we might say "walk down this street, take a right, and then take the next left," they might say "walk north, then turn east, and keep walking until the next chance to turn north." More interestingly, I have heard of these directions being malleable. Some martial arts schools teach that "south" is always the side that the teacher is on, regardless of the cardinal direction. This is very convenient because it makes the instructions the same, no matter what direction, while retaining the absoluteness of the direction giving they are used to.
A Chinese station might choose to label the directions north, south, east, and west, based on the position that the captain of the station is facing when he is at his post.
Depending on what orientation the spinning satellite is in, constellations might be used. We often specify coordinate systems that point towards particular zodiacs during the vernal equinox to disambiguate like this. We might talk of a rotation towards Libra or Gemini. If the spin is not in a convenient direction for this, we might pick major stars
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Using astronomical features would seem to be serious overkill and massively complicated if all you're trying to do is find your way around a space station.
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– Keith Morrison
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@KeithMorrison Perhaps. I wanted to just include a lot of options. If a civilization finds that they deal with a lot of different shapes of stations, and needs one way to notate directions on all of them, something complicated like a zodiac might come forth. We have all sorts of interesting ways to handle directions. Just remember, "the enemy's gate is down!"
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There's really no reason to assume they would use port and starbord. However, if we start from the assumption that the nautical orientations (port, starbord, fore, aft, deck, overhead) will be used, the only practical direction "fore" could be is along the direction of movement. That would in port and starboard down.
However, there are plenty of other systems out there that might be used. You might leverage the right hand rule and define them as "along rotation" and "against rotation." The right hand rule is almost universally agreed upon to be the correct way to assign direction (which really means that physics majors get violent really quickly if you try to shove a left handed coordinate system on them, and we don't like to seem them violent!) The port/starboard directions will always be either in the same direction as this rotation vector, or opposed.
Other cultures might also have their own opinions. From the reading I have done, the Chinese often deal with directions using cardinal directions. While we might say "walk down this street, take a right, and then take the next left," they might say "walk north, then turn east, and keep walking until the next chance to turn north." More interestingly, I have heard of these directions being malleable. Some martial arts schools teach that "south" is always the side that the teacher is on, regardless of the cardinal direction. This is very convenient because it makes the instructions the same, no matter what direction, while retaining the absoluteness of the direction giving they are used to.
A Chinese station might choose to label the directions north, south, east, and west, based on the position that the captain of the station is facing when he is at his post.
Depending on what orientation the spinning satellite is in, constellations might be used. We often specify coordinate systems that point towards particular zodiacs during the vernal equinox to disambiguate like this. We might talk of a rotation towards Libra or Gemini. If the spin is not in a convenient direction for this, we might pick major stars
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There's really no reason to assume they would use port and starbord. However, if we start from the assumption that the nautical orientations (port, starbord, fore, aft, deck, overhead) will be used, the only practical direction "fore" could be is along the direction of movement. That would in port and starboard down.
However, there are plenty of other systems out there that might be used. You might leverage the right hand rule and define them as "along rotation" and "against rotation." The right hand rule is almost universally agreed upon to be the correct way to assign direction (which really means that physics majors get violent really quickly if you try to shove a left handed coordinate system on them, and we don't like to seem them violent!) The port/starboard directions will always be either in the same direction as this rotation vector, or opposed.
Other cultures might also have their own opinions. From the reading I have done, the Chinese often deal with directions using cardinal directions. While we might say "walk down this street, take a right, and then take the next left," they might say "walk north, then turn east, and keep walking until the next chance to turn north." More interestingly, I have heard of these directions being malleable. Some martial arts schools teach that "south" is always the side that the teacher is on, regardless of the cardinal direction. This is very convenient because it makes the instructions the same, no matter what direction, while retaining the absoluteness of the direction giving they are used to.
A Chinese station might choose to label the directions north, south, east, and west, based on the position that the captain of the station is facing when he is at his post.
Depending on what orientation the spinning satellite is in, constellations might be used. We often specify coordinate systems that point towards particular zodiacs during the vernal equinox to disambiguate like this. We might talk of a rotation towards Libra or Gemini. If the spin is not in a convenient direction for this, we might pick major stars
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Using astronomical features would seem to be serious overkill and massively complicated if all you're trying to do is find your way around a space station.
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– Keith Morrison
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@KeithMorrison Perhaps. I wanted to just include a lot of options. If a civilization finds that they deal with a lot of different shapes of stations, and needs one way to notate directions on all of them, something complicated like a zodiac might come forth. We have all sorts of interesting ways to handle directions. Just remember, "the enemy's gate is down!"
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Using astronomical features would seem to be serious overkill and massively complicated if all you're trying to do is find your way around a space station.
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– Keith Morrison
4 hours ago
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@KeithMorrison Perhaps. I wanted to just include a lot of options. If a civilization finds that they deal with a lot of different shapes of stations, and needs one way to notate directions on all of them, something complicated like a zodiac might come forth. We have all sorts of interesting ways to handle directions. Just remember, "the enemy's gate is down!"
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– Cort Ammon
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Using astronomical features would seem to be serious overkill and massively complicated if all you're trying to do is find your way around a space station.
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– Keith Morrison
4 hours ago
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Using astronomical features would seem to be serious overkill and massively complicated if all you're trying to do is find your way around a space station.
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– Keith Morrison
4 hours ago
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@KeithMorrison Perhaps. I wanted to just include a lot of options. If a civilization finds that they deal with a lot of different shapes of stations, and needs one way to notate directions on all of them, something complicated like a zodiac might come forth. We have all sorts of interesting ways to handle directions. Just remember, "the enemy's gate is down!"
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– Cort Ammon
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@KeithMorrison Perhaps. I wanted to just include a lot of options. If a civilization finds that they deal with a lot of different shapes of stations, and needs one way to notate directions on all of them, something complicated like a zodiac might come forth. We have all sorts of interesting ways to handle directions. Just remember, "the enemy's gate is down!"
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Space is 3D, so simply differentiating front and back isn't good enough. You need a plane that port and starboard are normal to. So you need something non-rotating down the middle; something ventral or dorsal.
Internal to the rotating section, port and starboard are meaningless. I would split it into hemicircles, much like the Earth's hemispheres. And I would refer to directions as fore and aft, or upspin and downspin.
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The people in the space station aren't dealing with 3D any more than you are walking on the exterior of a sphere right now when it comes to giving directions to get around it.
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– Keith Morrison
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@KeithMorrison True for the passengers, not true for any crew involved in navigation or piloting.
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Space is 3D, so simply differentiating front and back isn't good enough. You need a plane that port and starboard are normal to. So you need something non-rotating down the middle; something ventral or dorsal.
Internal to the rotating section, port and starboard are meaningless. I would split it into hemicircles, much like the Earth's hemispheres. And I would refer to directions as fore and aft, or upspin and downspin.
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The people in the space station aren't dealing with 3D any more than you are walking on the exterior of a sphere right now when it comes to giving directions to get around it.
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– Keith Morrison
4 hours ago
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@KeithMorrison True for the passengers, not true for any crew involved in navigation or piloting.
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– Ryan_L
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Space is 3D, so simply differentiating front and back isn't good enough. You need a plane that port and starboard are normal to. So you need something non-rotating down the middle; something ventral or dorsal.
Internal to the rotating section, port and starboard are meaningless. I would split it into hemicircles, much like the Earth's hemispheres. And I would refer to directions as fore and aft, or upspin and downspin.
answered 8 hours ago
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Space is 3D, so simply differentiating front and back isn't good enough. You need a plane that port and starboard are normal to. So you need something non-rotating down the middle; something ventral or dorsal.
Internal to the rotating section, port and starboard are meaningless. I would split it into hemicircles, much like the Earth's hemispheres. And I would refer to directions as fore and aft, or upspin and downspin.
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The people in the space station aren't dealing with 3D any more than you are walking on the exterior of a sphere right now when it comes to giving directions to get around it.
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– Keith Morrison
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@KeithMorrison True for the passengers, not true for any crew involved in navigation or piloting.
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The people in the space station aren't dealing with 3D any more than you are walking on the exterior of a sphere right now when it comes to giving directions to get around it.
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– Keith Morrison
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@KeithMorrison True for the passengers, not true for any crew involved in navigation or piloting.
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– Ryan_L
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The people in the space station aren't dealing with 3D any more than you are walking on the exterior of a sphere right now when it comes to giving directions to get around it.
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– Keith Morrison
4 hours ago
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The people in the space station aren't dealing with 3D any more than you are walking on the exterior of a sphere right now when it comes to giving directions to get around it.
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– Keith Morrison
4 hours ago
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@KeithMorrison True for the passengers, not true for any crew involved in navigation or piloting.
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– Ryan_L
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@KeithMorrison True for the passengers, not true for any crew involved in navigation or piloting.
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Consider the Earth. Right now we're all on the outside of a rotating spherical object, which is essentially the inverse of your scenario, and yet people don't require massively complicated 3D navigational systems to get from place to place or to give directions. East is the direction in which the planet is rotating, and the other directions derive from that.
Using cardinal directions works for planets or fixed structures on those planets, but people will likely have a psychologically hard time using it for a space station. The easiest way I can see it working is as follows:
Spinward/forward: toward the direction you're moving tangentially.
Antispinward/backward: the opposite direction.
Port: facing spinward, the side to your left.
Starboard: facing spinward, the side to your right.
Up: Toward the axis of rotation.
Down: Away from the axis of rotation.
Simple, and straightforward. Because the spin direction is fixed, it's something everyone can agree on, and because you've got simulated gravity, everyone has the same understanding of "up" and "down", just as we do on Earth even though. Everything else derives from that.
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Consider the Earth. Right now we're all on the outside of a rotating spherical object, which is essentially the inverse of your scenario, and yet people don't require massively complicated 3D navigational systems to get from place to place or to give directions. East is the direction in which the planet is rotating, and the other directions derive from that.
Using cardinal directions works for planets or fixed structures on those planets, but people will likely have a psychologically hard time using it for a space station. The easiest way I can see it working is as follows:
Spinward/forward: toward the direction you're moving tangentially.
Antispinward/backward: the opposite direction.
Port: facing spinward, the side to your left.
Starboard: facing spinward, the side to your right.
Up: Toward the axis of rotation.
Down: Away from the axis of rotation.
Simple, and straightforward. Because the spin direction is fixed, it's something everyone can agree on, and because you've got simulated gravity, everyone has the same understanding of "up" and "down", just as we do on Earth even though. Everything else derives from that.
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Consider the Earth. Right now we're all on the outside of a rotating spherical object, which is essentially the inverse of your scenario, and yet people don't require massively complicated 3D navigational systems to get from place to place or to give directions. East is the direction in which the planet is rotating, and the other directions derive from that.
Using cardinal directions works for planets or fixed structures on those planets, but people will likely have a psychologically hard time using it for a space station. The easiest way I can see it working is as follows:
Spinward/forward: toward the direction you're moving tangentially.
Antispinward/backward: the opposite direction.
Port: facing spinward, the side to your left.
Starboard: facing spinward, the side to your right.
Up: Toward the axis of rotation.
Down: Away from the axis of rotation.
Simple, and straightforward. Because the spin direction is fixed, it's something everyone can agree on, and because you've got simulated gravity, everyone has the same understanding of "up" and "down", just as we do on Earth even though. Everything else derives from that.
answered 3 hours ago
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Consider the Earth. Right now we're all on the outside of a rotating spherical object, which is essentially the inverse of your scenario, and yet people don't require massively complicated 3D navigational systems to get from place to place or to give directions. East is the direction in which the planet is rotating, and the other directions derive from that.
Using cardinal directions works for planets or fixed structures on those planets, but people will likely have a psychologically hard time using it for a space station. The easiest way I can see it working is as follows:
Spinward/forward: toward the direction you're moving tangentially.
Antispinward/backward: the opposite direction.
Port: facing spinward, the side to your left.
Starboard: facing spinward, the side to your right.
Up: Toward the axis of rotation.
Down: Away from the axis of rotation.
Simple, and straightforward. Because the spin direction is fixed, it's something everyone can agree on, and because you've got simulated gravity, everyone has the same understanding of "up" and "down", just as we do on Earth even though. Everything else derives from that.
answered 3 hours ago
Keith MorrisonKeith Morrison
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Do it like the Right Ascension of the Ascending Node (RAAN) in orbital mechanics. Chose a reference frame and link your starboard and port to that.
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Do it like the Right Ascension of the Ascending Node (RAAN) in orbital mechanics. Chose a reference frame and link your starboard and port to that.
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Do it like the Right Ascension of the Ascending Node (RAAN) in orbital mechanics. Chose a reference frame and link your starboard and port to that.
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Do it like the Right Ascension of the Ascending Node (RAAN) in orbital mechanics. Chose a reference frame and link your starboard and port to that.
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