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Is my employer paying me fairly? Going from 1099 to W2


How can communicate effectively the need for HR to correct my Tax Withholding?Is it appropriate to list a long-term contract job as my employer on social media?Handling resistance at a much higher salary increase to account for loss benefits and work/life balanceHow should a part-time independent contractor ask for a raiseHow much is 35 w2 hourly to 1099 hourly?Effect Of Actual Diploma On Salary NegotiationMy employer never asked me to fill out a w4Should I keep my IC wages the same even though I have a salaried job already?Could one person hold more than one W-2 jobs from two different employers?Advice when pitching a day rate to maximize billable time






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I've been working as a 1099 employee for about 2.5 years on a side gig for $20/hr and now the company has to switch me to W2 at the same $20/hr rate.



Shouldn't there be about a 20% change between 1099 and W2 for tax purposes? Either my W2 hourly should be much higher than $20 or it means I've been working for $16/hr since I've been on 1099 factoring in taxes?



I asked my manager his response was...




"You have always been 20 per hour as a 1099. It's the same. When you do your taxes at the end of the year you pay the same taxes with 1099. With w2 the taxes are taken out beforehand"




Is his statement correct?










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  • Just to clarify, on the W2 you are being paid $20/hr pre-tax?

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I've been working as a 1099 employee for about 2.5 years on a side gig for $20/hr and now the company has to switch me to W2 at the same $20/hr rate.



Shouldn't there be about a 20% change between 1099 and W2 for tax purposes? Either my W2 hourly should be much higher than $20 or it means I've been working for $16/hr since I've been on 1099 factoring in taxes?



I asked my manager his response was...




"You have always been 20 per hour as a 1099. It's the same. When you do your taxes at the end of the year you pay the same taxes with 1099. With w2 the taxes are taken out beforehand"




Is his statement correct?










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  • Just to clarify, on the W2 you are being paid $20/hr pre-tax?

    – Peter M
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  • Yes, it's pre-tax

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  • Should not you have been paid more as a self employed contractor as opposed to an employee?

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I've been working as a 1099 employee for about 2.5 years on a side gig for $20/hr and now the company has to switch me to W2 at the same $20/hr rate.



Shouldn't there be about a 20% change between 1099 and W2 for tax purposes? Either my W2 hourly should be much higher than $20 or it means I've been working for $16/hr since I've been on 1099 factoring in taxes?



I asked my manager his response was...




"You have always been 20 per hour as a 1099. It's the same. When you do your taxes at the end of the year you pay the same taxes with 1099. With w2 the taxes are taken out beforehand"




Is his statement correct?










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I've been working as a 1099 employee for about 2.5 years on a side gig for $20/hr and now the company has to switch me to W2 at the same $20/hr rate.



Shouldn't there be about a 20% change between 1099 and W2 for tax purposes? Either my W2 hourly should be much higher than $20 or it means I've been working for $16/hr since I've been on 1099 factoring in taxes?



I asked my manager his response was...




"You have always been 20 per hour as a 1099. It's the same. When you do your taxes at the end of the year you pay the same taxes with 1099. With w2 the taxes are taken out beforehand"




Is his statement correct?







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  • Just to clarify, on the W2 you are being paid $20/hr pre-tax?

    – Peter M
    8 hours ago











  • Yes, it's pre-tax

    – 626
    5 hours ago











  • Should not you have been paid more as a self employed contractor as opposed to an employee?

    – Neuromancer
    2 hours ago

















  • Just to clarify, on the W2 you are being paid $20/hr pre-tax?

    – Peter M
    8 hours ago











  • Yes, it's pre-tax

    – 626
    5 hours ago











  • Should not you have been paid more as a self employed contractor as opposed to an employee?

    – Neuromancer
    2 hours ago
















Just to clarify, on the W2 you are being paid $20/hr pre-tax?

– Peter M
8 hours ago





Just to clarify, on the W2 you are being paid $20/hr pre-tax?

– Peter M
8 hours ago













Yes, it's pre-tax

– 626
5 hours ago





Yes, it's pre-tax

– 626
5 hours ago













Should not you have been paid more as a self employed contractor as opposed to an employee?

– Neuromancer
2 hours ago





Should not you have been paid more as a self employed contractor as opposed to an employee?

– Neuromancer
2 hours ago










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Prior to this conversion they were paying a flat $20.00 per hour for your services. Now they're paying $20.00 per hour and additionally paying things like workers compensation, health insurance, 401k, payroll taxes, etc. None of these costs come out of your $20.00 per hour pay rate.



The cost to them is greater than the $20.00 per hour they had been paying you up to this point. The end result is that they're paying more for you now than they were previously. You're still getting the same $20.00 per hour.



As for your taxes, those will now come out of your paycheck rather than you paying them yourself quarterly or yearly. The net result to you should be largely the same.



As for things like healthcare, retirement, etc. The difference is in where those costs have moved. Prior to this you were paying for these things on your own. Now you'll see some of those costs as deductions to your total paycheck. The net result to you, again, should be largely the same.



So, are you being paid fairly? I'd say yes. They left you at the $20.00 per hour rate even though they have additional costs. They could have easily reduced your hourly rate to compensate for those additional costs.



It costs more to W2 someone at $20.00 per hour then it does to 1099 them at $20.00 per hour.






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There is a difference, but it typically goes the other way. When you are a 1099 you pay both halves of the FICA and Medicare taxes. When you are a W-2 your employer pays half. Additionally, you typically don't get much by way of benefits as a 1099, but you do as a W-2.



Whenever I've looked at doing work under a 1099 agreement, I've asked for 25-30% more than as a W-2. If you kept the same hourly rate, and you are receiving just about any benefits (like, paid vacation, health insurance, etc.) you got yourself a raise.






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    Prior to this conversion they were paying a flat $20.00 per hour for your services. Now they're paying $20.00 per hour and additionally paying things like workers compensation, health insurance, 401k, payroll taxes, etc. None of these costs come out of your $20.00 per hour pay rate.



    The cost to them is greater than the $20.00 per hour they had been paying you up to this point. The end result is that they're paying more for you now than they were previously. You're still getting the same $20.00 per hour.



    As for your taxes, those will now come out of your paycheck rather than you paying them yourself quarterly or yearly. The net result to you should be largely the same.



    As for things like healthcare, retirement, etc. The difference is in where those costs have moved. Prior to this you were paying for these things on your own. Now you'll see some of those costs as deductions to your total paycheck. The net result to you, again, should be largely the same.



    So, are you being paid fairly? I'd say yes. They left you at the $20.00 per hour rate even though they have additional costs. They could have easily reduced your hourly rate to compensate for those additional costs.



    It costs more to W2 someone at $20.00 per hour then it does to 1099 them at $20.00 per hour.






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    • Thank you, that was very detailed.

      – 626
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    • Glad to help...

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    Prior to this conversion they were paying a flat $20.00 per hour for your services. Now they're paying $20.00 per hour and additionally paying things like workers compensation, health insurance, 401k, payroll taxes, etc. None of these costs come out of your $20.00 per hour pay rate.



    The cost to them is greater than the $20.00 per hour they had been paying you up to this point. The end result is that they're paying more for you now than they were previously. You're still getting the same $20.00 per hour.



    As for your taxes, those will now come out of your paycheck rather than you paying them yourself quarterly or yearly. The net result to you should be largely the same.



    As for things like healthcare, retirement, etc. The difference is in where those costs have moved. Prior to this you were paying for these things on your own. Now you'll see some of those costs as deductions to your total paycheck. The net result to you, again, should be largely the same.



    So, are you being paid fairly? I'd say yes. They left you at the $20.00 per hour rate even though they have additional costs. They could have easily reduced your hourly rate to compensate for those additional costs.



    It costs more to W2 someone at $20.00 per hour then it does to 1099 them at $20.00 per hour.






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    • Thank you, that was very detailed.

      – 626
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    • Glad to help...

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    Prior to this conversion they were paying a flat $20.00 per hour for your services. Now they're paying $20.00 per hour and additionally paying things like workers compensation, health insurance, 401k, payroll taxes, etc. None of these costs come out of your $20.00 per hour pay rate.



    The cost to them is greater than the $20.00 per hour they had been paying you up to this point. The end result is that they're paying more for you now than they were previously. You're still getting the same $20.00 per hour.



    As for your taxes, those will now come out of your paycheck rather than you paying them yourself quarterly or yearly. The net result to you should be largely the same.



    As for things like healthcare, retirement, etc. The difference is in where those costs have moved. Prior to this you were paying for these things on your own. Now you'll see some of those costs as deductions to your total paycheck. The net result to you, again, should be largely the same.



    So, are you being paid fairly? I'd say yes. They left you at the $20.00 per hour rate even though they have additional costs. They could have easily reduced your hourly rate to compensate for those additional costs.



    It costs more to W2 someone at $20.00 per hour then it does to 1099 them at $20.00 per hour.






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    Prior to this conversion they were paying a flat $20.00 per hour for your services. Now they're paying $20.00 per hour and additionally paying things like workers compensation, health insurance, 401k, payroll taxes, etc. None of these costs come out of your $20.00 per hour pay rate.



    The cost to them is greater than the $20.00 per hour they had been paying you up to this point. The end result is that they're paying more for you now than they were previously. You're still getting the same $20.00 per hour.



    As for your taxes, those will now come out of your paycheck rather than you paying them yourself quarterly or yearly. The net result to you should be largely the same.



    As for things like healthcare, retirement, etc. The difference is in where those costs have moved. Prior to this you were paying for these things on your own. Now you'll see some of those costs as deductions to your total paycheck. The net result to you, again, should be largely the same.



    So, are you being paid fairly? I'd say yes. They left you at the $20.00 per hour rate even though they have additional costs. They could have easily reduced your hourly rate to compensate for those additional costs.



    It costs more to W2 someone at $20.00 per hour then it does to 1099 them at $20.00 per hour.







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    • Thank you, that was very detailed.

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    • Thank you, that was very detailed.

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    Thank you, that was very detailed.

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    Thank you, that was very detailed.

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    Glad to help...

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    Glad to help...

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    There is a difference, but it typically goes the other way. When you are a 1099 you pay both halves of the FICA and Medicare taxes. When you are a W-2 your employer pays half. Additionally, you typically don't get much by way of benefits as a 1099, but you do as a W-2.



    Whenever I've looked at doing work under a 1099 agreement, I've asked for 25-30% more than as a W-2. If you kept the same hourly rate, and you are receiving just about any benefits (like, paid vacation, health insurance, etc.) you got yourself a raise.






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      There is a difference, but it typically goes the other way. When you are a 1099 you pay both halves of the FICA and Medicare taxes. When you are a W-2 your employer pays half. Additionally, you typically don't get much by way of benefits as a 1099, but you do as a W-2.



      Whenever I've looked at doing work under a 1099 agreement, I've asked for 25-30% more than as a W-2. If you kept the same hourly rate, and you are receiving just about any benefits (like, paid vacation, health insurance, etc.) you got yourself a raise.






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        There is a difference, but it typically goes the other way. When you are a 1099 you pay both halves of the FICA and Medicare taxes. When you are a W-2 your employer pays half. Additionally, you typically don't get much by way of benefits as a 1099, but you do as a W-2.



        Whenever I've looked at doing work under a 1099 agreement, I've asked for 25-30% more than as a W-2. If you kept the same hourly rate, and you are receiving just about any benefits (like, paid vacation, health insurance, etc.) you got yourself a raise.






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        There is a difference, but it typically goes the other way. When you are a 1099 you pay both halves of the FICA and Medicare taxes. When you are a W-2 your employer pays half. Additionally, you typically don't get much by way of benefits as a 1099, but you do as a W-2.



        Whenever I've looked at doing work under a 1099 agreement, I've asked for 25-30% more than as a W-2. If you kept the same hourly rate, and you are receiving just about any benefits (like, paid vacation, health insurance, etc.) you got yourself a raise.







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