Confused about the answers to two logic problemsA∧B-worlds and law of enrichment in Stalnaker semanticsValidity stemming from contradictory premissesAre “If P then Q” and “Q only if P” equivalent?“If p, then q” = “q unless ~p”?Why is the statement false: If (A⊃B)∨(A⊃C) is true, then A implies either B or CPutnam's argument against the possibility of nominalising 'distance-statements' in “Philosophy of Logic” (1972)Real World Example to break the logic of this SyllogismLogic. Having problems with interpretations
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Confused about the answers to two logic problems
A∧B-worlds and law of enrichment in Stalnaker semanticsValidity stemming from contradictory premissesAre “If P then Q” and “Q only if P” equivalent?“If p, then q” = “q unless ~p”?Why is the statement false: If (A⊃B)∨(A⊃C) is true, then A implies either B or CPutnam's argument against the possibility of nominalising 'distance-statements' in “Philosophy of Logic” (1972)Real World Example to break the logic of this SyllogismLogic. Having problems with interpretations
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- True or False? If monkeys can fly, then 1 + 1 = 3.
- What is logically equivalent to all x (p(x) + ~q(x))?
For the first one I think it is False.
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- True or False? If monkeys can fly, then 1 + 1 = 3.
- What is logically equivalent to all x (p(x) + ~q(x))?
For the first one I think it is False.
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1) is true. Think about true conditionals as promises that were upheld. I promise you that if monkeys can fly, then 1+1 is equal to 3. Did I violate my promise? No, because I would violate it only if monkeys could fly, but 1+1 would still not be equal to 3. But this didn't happen.
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Thank you. I changed it to True before I turned it in,
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@user161005 - Are you assuming the "if A then B" formulation in English is equivalent to a logical proposition of the form A -> B? If this is a homework problem then probably that was the intent, but conditionals can also be interpreted in terms of modal logic which deals with possible worlds, David Lewis apparently developed a modal logic analysis of conditionals...it isn't true that in a possible world where monkeys can fly, 1+1=3, so I assume the statement wouldn't be true under this sort of translation.
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- True or False? If monkeys can fly, then 1 + 1 = 3.
- What is logically equivalent to all x (p(x) + ~q(x))?
For the first one I think it is False.
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- True or False? If monkeys can fly, then 1 + 1 = 3.
- What is logically equivalent to all x (p(x) + ~q(x))?
For the first one I think it is False.
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1) is true. Think about true conditionals as promises that were upheld. I promise you that if monkeys can fly, then 1+1 is equal to 3. Did I violate my promise? No, because I would violate it only if monkeys could fly, but 1+1 would still not be equal to 3. But this didn't happen.
– user161005
8 hours ago
Thank you. I changed it to True before I turned it in,
– Molly
5 hours ago
@user161005 - Are you assuming the "if A then B" formulation in English is equivalent to a logical proposition of the form A -> B? If this is a homework problem then probably that was the intent, but conditionals can also be interpreted in terms of modal logic which deals with possible worlds, David Lewis apparently developed a modal logic analysis of conditionals...it isn't true that in a possible world where monkeys can fly, 1+1=3, so I assume the statement wouldn't be true under this sort of translation.
– Hypnosifl
4 hours ago
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1) is true. Think about true conditionals as promises that were upheld. I promise you that if monkeys can fly, then 1+1 is equal to 3. Did I violate my promise? No, because I would violate it only if monkeys could fly, but 1+1 would still not be equal to 3. But this didn't happen.
– user161005
8 hours ago
Thank you. I changed it to True before I turned it in,
– Molly
5 hours ago
@user161005 - Are you assuming the "if A then B" formulation in English is equivalent to a logical proposition of the form A -> B? If this is a homework problem then probably that was the intent, but conditionals can also be interpreted in terms of modal logic which deals with possible worlds, David Lewis apparently developed a modal logic analysis of conditionals...it isn't true that in a possible world where monkeys can fly, 1+1=3, so I assume the statement wouldn't be true under this sort of translation.
– Hypnosifl
4 hours ago
1) is true. Think about true conditionals as promises that were upheld. I promise you that if monkeys can fly, then 1+1 is equal to 3. Did I violate my promise? No, because I would violate it only if monkeys could fly, but 1+1 would still not be equal to 3. But this didn't happen.
– user161005
8 hours ago
1) is true. Think about true conditionals as promises that were upheld. I promise you that if monkeys can fly, then 1+1 is equal to 3. Did I violate my promise? No, because I would violate it only if monkeys could fly, but 1+1 would still not be equal to 3. But this didn't happen.
– user161005
8 hours ago
Thank you. I changed it to True before I turned it in,
– Molly
5 hours ago
Thank you. I changed it to True before I turned it in,
– Molly
5 hours ago
@user161005 - Are you assuming the "if A then B" formulation in English is equivalent to a logical proposition of the form A -> B? If this is a homework problem then probably that was the intent, but conditionals can also be interpreted in terms of modal logic which deals with possible worlds, David Lewis apparently developed a modal logic analysis of conditionals...it isn't true that in a possible world where monkeys can fly, 1+1=3, so I assume the statement wouldn't be true under this sort of translation.
– Hypnosifl
4 hours ago
@user161005 - Are you assuming the "if A then B" formulation in English is equivalent to a logical proposition of the form A -> B? If this is a homework problem then probably that was the intent, but conditionals can also be interpreted in terms of modal logic which deals with possible worlds, David Lewis apparently developed a modal logic analysis of conditionals...it isn't true that in a possible world where monkeys can fly, 1+1=3, so I assume the statement wouldn't be true under this sort of translation.
– Hypnosifl
4 hours ago
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There are two questions.
- True or False? If monkeys can fly, then 1 + 1 = 3.
The antecedent of the conditional, "monkeys can fly" is false. So is the consequent, "1 + 1 = 3". In classical truth-functional logic the conditional connecting these two sentences also has a truth-value. Wikipedia describes this "material conditional" as follows:
The material conditional (also known as material implication, material consequence, or simply implication, implies, or conditional) is a logical connective (or a binary operator) that is often symbolized by a forward arrow "→".
This binary operator would return true, based on the truth table Wikipedia provides. This is because the material conditional is defined to be false only when the antecedent is true and the consequent is false. Otherwise, even when the conditional doesn't make sense, it is defined as true.
Because the antecedent and the consequent are unrelated there may be objections to assigning a truth-value to such a statement or to assigning the value true. See the Wikipedia entry for relevance logic or the SEP article on relevance logic for a discussion.
- What is logically equivalent to all x (p(x) + ~q(x))?
I assume the statement is ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x).
Using Wikipedia's list of logical equivalences suggests a conditional that would be logically equivalent to the disjunction.
p ⟹ q ≡ ¬p ∨ q
Since ¬p ∨ q is logically equivalent to p ⟹ q, p v ¬q should be logically equivalent to ¬p ⟹ ¬q. This suggest that ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x) is logically equivalent to ∀x(¬P(x) ⟹ ¬Q(x).
For added confirmation, one can use a tree proof generator to see if one could derive such an equivalence:
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, May 27). Material conditional. In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:44, August 11, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Material_conditional&oldid=898972669
Tree Proof Generator. https://www.umsu.de/logik/trees/
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There are two questions.
- True or False? If monkeys can fly, then 1 + 1 = 3.
The antecedent of the conditional, "monkeys can fly" is false. So is the consequent, "1 + 1 = 3". In classical truth-functional logic the conditional connecting these two sentences also has a truth-value. Wikipedia describes this "material conditional" as follows:
The material conditional (also known as material implication, material consequence, or simply implication, implies, or conditional) is a logical connective (or a binary operator) that is often symbolized by a forward arrow "→".
This binary operator would return true, based on the truth table Wikipedia provides. This is because the material conditional is defined to be false only when the antecedent is true and the consequent is false. Otherwise, even when the conditional doesn't make sense, it is defined as true.
Because the antecedent and the consequent are unrelated there may be objections to assigning a truth-value to such a statement or to assigning the value true. See the Wikipedia entry for relevance logic or the SEP article on relevance logic for a discussion.
- What is logically equivalent to all x (p(x) + ~q(x))?
I assume the statement is ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x).
Using Wikipedia's list of logical equivalences suggests a conditional that would be logically equivalent to the disjunction.
p ⟹ q ≡ ¬p ∨ q
Since ¬p ∨ q is logically equivalent to p ⟹ q, p v ¬q should be logically equivalent to ¬p ⟹ ¬q. This suggest that ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x) is logically equivalent to ∀x(¬P(x) ⟹ ¬Q(x).
For added confirmation, one can use a tree proof generator to see if one could derive such an equivalence:
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, May 27). Material conditional. In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:44, August 11, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Material_conditional&oldid=898972669
Tree Proof Generator. https://www.umsu.de/logik/trees/
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There are two questions.
- True or False? If monkeys can fly, then 1 + 1 = 3.
The antecedent of the conditional, "monkeys can fly" is false. So is the consequent, "1 + 1 = 3". In classical truth-functional logic the conditional connecting these two sentences also has a truth-value. Wikipedia describes this "material conditional" as follows:
The material conditional (also known as material implication, material consequence, or simply implication, implies, or conditional) is a logical connective (or a binary operator) that is often symbolized by a forward arrow "→".
This binary operator would return true, based on the truth table Wikipedia provides. This is because the material conditional is defined to be false only when the antecedent is true and the consequent is false. Otherwise, even when the conditional doesn't make sense, it is defined as true.
Because the antecedent and the consequent are unrelated there may be objections to assigning a truth-value to such a statement or to assigning the value true. See the Wikipedia entry for relevance logic or the SEP article on relevance logic for a discussion.
- What is logically equivalent to all x (p(x) + ~q(x))?
I assume the statement is ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x).
Using Wikipedia's list of logical equivalences suggests a conditional that would be logically equivalent to the disjunction.
p ⟹ q ≡ ¬p ∨ q
Since ¬p ∨ q is logically equivalent to p ⟹ q, p v ¬q should be logically equivalent to ¬p ⟹ ¬q. This suggest that ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x) is logically equivalent to ∀x(¬P(x) ⟹ ¬Q(x).
For added confirmation, one can use a tree proof generator to see if one could derive such an equivalence:
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, May 27). Material conditional. In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:44, August 11, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Material_conditional&oldid=898972669
Tree Proof Generator. https://www.umsu.de/logik/trees/
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There are two questions.
- True or False? If monkeys can fly, then 1 + 1 = 3.
The antecedent of the conditional, "monkeys can fly" is false. So is the consequent, "1 + 1 = 3". In classical truth-functional logic the conditional connecting these two sentences also has a truth-value. Wikipedia describes this "material conditional" as follows:
The material conditional (also known as material implication, material consequence, or simply implication, implies, or conditional) is a logical connective (or a binary operator) that is often symbolized by a forward arrow "→".
This binary operator would return true, based on the truth table Wikipedia provides. This is because the material conditional is defined to be false only when the antecedent is true and the consequent is false. Otherwise, even when the conditional doesn't make sense, it is defined as true.
Because the antecedent and the consequent are unrelated there may be objections to assigning a truth-value to such a statement or to assigning the value true. See the Wikipedia entry for relevance logic or the SEP article on relevance logic for a discussion.
- What is logically equivalent to all x (p(x) + ~q(x))?
I assume the statement is ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x).
Using Wikipedia's list of logical equivalences suggests a conditional that would be logically equivalent to the disjunction.
p ⟹ q ≡ ¬p ∨ q
Since ¬p ∨ q is logically equivalent to p ⟹ q, p v ¬q should be logically equivalent to ¬p ⟹ ¬q. This suggest that ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x) is logically equivalent to ∀x(¬P(x) ⟹ ¬Q(x).
For added confirmation, one can use a tree proof generator to see if one could derive such an equivalence:
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, May 27). Material conditional. In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:44, August 11, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Material_conditional&oldid=898972669
Tree Proof Generator. https://www.umsu.de/logik/trees/
There are two questions.
- True or False? If monkeys can fly, then 1 + 1 = 3.
The antecedent of the conditional, "monkeys can fly" is false. So is the consequent, "1 + 1 = 3". In classical truth-functional logic the conditional connecting these two sentences also has a truth-value. Wikipedia describes this "material conditional" as follows:
The material conditional (also known as material implication, material consequence, or simply implication, implies, or conditional) is a logical connective (or a binary operator) that is often symbolized by a forward arrow "→".
This binary operator would return true, based on the truth table Wikipedia provides. This is because the material conditional is defined to be false only when the antecedent is true and the consequent is false. Otherwise, even when the conditional doesn't make sense, it is defined as true.
Because the antecedent and the consequent are unrelated there may be objections to assigning a truth-value to such a statement or to assigning the value true. See the Wikipedia entry for relevance logic or the SEP article on relevance logic for a discussion.
- What is logically equivalent to all x (p(x) + ~q(x))?
I assume the statement is ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x).
Using Wikipedia's list of logical equivalences suggests a conditional that would be logically equivalent to the disjunction.
p ⟹ q ≡ ¬p ∨ q
Since ¬p ∨ q is logically equivalent to p ⟹ q, p v ¬q should be logically equivalent to ¬p ⟹ ¬q. This suggest that ∀x(P(x) v ¬Q(x) is logically equivalent to ∀x(¬P(x) ⟹ ¬Q(x).
For added confirmation, one can use a tree proof generator to see if one could derive such an equivalence:
Wikipedia contributors. (2019, May 27). Material conditional. In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:44, August 11, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Material_conditional&oldid=898972669
Tree Proof Generator. https://www.umsu.de/logik/trees/
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1) is true. Think about true conditionals as promises that were upheld. I promise you that if monkeys can fly, then 1+1 is equal to 3. Did I violate my promise? No, because I would violate it only if monkeys could fly, but 1+1 would still not be equal to 3. But this didn't happen.
– user161005
8 hours ago
Thank you. I changed it to True before I turned it in,
– Molly
5 hours ago
@user161005 - Are you assuming the "if A then B" formulation in English is equivalent to a logical proposition of the form A -> B? If this is a homework problem then probably that was the intent, but conditionals can also be interpreted in terms of modal logic which deals with possible worlds, David Lewis apparently developed a modal logic analysis of conditionals...it isn't true that in a possible world where monkeys can fly, 1+1=3, so I assume the statement wouldn't be true under this sort of translation.
– Hypnosifl
4 hours ago