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Why are they 'nude photos'?
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Recent news events in the US have resulted in many headlines about "nude photos of young women" and variations.
Obviously it's the women who are nude, not the photos, so why does this phrasing persist? Is it an idiom, or does it just flow better, or is it some other nuance of usage that I haven't seen in other situations?
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Recent news events in the US have resulted in many headlines about "nude photos of young women" and variations.
Obviously it's the women who are nude, not the photos, so why does this phrasing persist? Is it an idiom, or does it just flow better, or is it some other nuance of usage that I haven't seen in other situations?
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It’s no different than pictures of me playing baseball being called my baseball photos or calling the pictures of me swimming my swimming photos.
– Jim
8 hours ago
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A nude photo is nude in the same sense that a beer bottle is beer.
– RegDwigнt♦
7 hours ago
2
For the same reason as there are cat videos
– marcellothearcane
7 hours ago
See also: vacation photos, yearbook photos
– TaliesinMerlin
5 hours ago
@RegDwigнt♦ A beer bottle is a beer bottle regardless of whether it contains beer or not.
– Spencer
3 hours ago
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Recent news events in the US have resulted in many headlines about "nude photos of young women" and variations.
Obviously it's the women who are nude, not the photos, so why does this phrasing persist? Is it an idiom, or does it just flow better, or is it some other nuance of usage that I haven't seen in other situations?
idioms usage attributive-nouns compound-words
Recent news events in the US have resulted in many headlines about "nude photos of young women" and variations.
Obviously it's the women who are nude, not the photos, so why does this phrasing persist? Is it an idiom, or does it just flow better, or is it some other nuance of usage that I haven't seen in other situations?
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It’s no different than pictures of me playing baseball being called my baseball photos or calling the pictures of me swimming my swimming photos.
– Jim
8 hours ago
6
A nude photo is nude in the same sense that a beer bottle is beer.
– RegDwigнt♦
7 hours ago
2
For the same reason as there are cat videos
– marcellothearcane
7 hours ago
See also: vacation photos, yearbook photos
– TaliesinMerlin
5 hours ago
@RegDwigнt♦ A beer bottle is a beer bottle regardless of whether it contains beer or not.
– Spencer
3 hours ago
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4
It’s no different than pictures of me playing baseball being called my baseball photos or calling the pictures of me swimming my swimming photos.
– Jim
8 hours ago
6
A nude photo is nude in the same sense that a beer bottle is beer.
– RegDwigнt♦
7 hours ago
2
For the same reason as there are cat videos
– marcellothearcane
7 hours ago
See also: vacation photos, yearbook photos
– TaliesinMerlin
5 hours ago
@RegDwigнt♦ A beer bottle is a beer bottle regardless of whether it contains beer or not.
– Spencer
3 hours ago
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4
It’s no different than pictures of me playing baseball being called my baseball photos or calling the pictures of me swimming my swimming photos.
– Jim
8 hours ago
It’s no different than pictures of me playing baseball being called my baseball photos or calling the pictures of me swimming my swimming photos.
– Jim
8 hours ago
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A nude photo is nude in the same sense that a beer bottle is beer.
– RegDwigнt♦
7 hours ago
A nude photo is nude in the same sense that a beer bottle is beer.
– RegDwigнt♦
7 hours ago
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For the same reason as there are cat videos
– marcellothearcane
7 hours ago
For the same reason as there are cat videos
– marcellothearcane
7 hours ago
See also: vacation photos, yearbook photos
– TaliesinMerlin
5 hours ago
See also: vacation photos, yearbook photos
– TaliesinMerlin
5 hours ago
@RegDwigнt♦ A beer bottle is a beer bottle regardless of whether it contains beer or not.
– Spencer
3 hours ago
@RegDwigнt♦ A beer bottle is a beer bottle regardless of whether it contains beer or not.
– Spencer
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nude ADJECTIVE
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1.1 [attributive] Depicting or performed by naked people.
‘she won't do any nude scenes’
Lexico
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This is just a dictionary definition without any explanation whatsoever. Might just as well post a link in a comment. BTW it's no longer Oxford Dictionaries, it's now called Lexico.
– Mari-Lou A
6 hours ago
@Mari-LouA That makes this answer one of those notorious nomina nuda which people are always railing about. Hard to blame them, really.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
@Mari-LouA ... you are right. Lexico.
– GEdgar
5 hours ago
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It’s a way to to refer to photos with nude subjects. As you can see from Ngram this expression took off from the ‘60s/70s when pictures portraying nude people, generally women, started to become popular, as in earlier expression used referring to paintings
Nude:
(of a photograph, painting, statue, etc.) being or prominently displaying a representation of the nude human figure.
(Dictionary.com)
1
Thanks for the Ngram. It reinforces the idea that the phrase has become an idiom.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
1
@JimMack Enough of all this beating around the bush already. It's time to let the cat out of the bag and spill the beans: in exactly what fashion could nude photos EVER be considered any sort of "idiom"?? You're clearly barking up the wrong tree here. The elephant in the room is that old familiar refrain, "A simply qualified noun doth never an idiom make." Since it takes two to tango, the ball's in your court now, Roger Federer.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
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Nude photos is a noun phrase that has become idiomatic and manifests in slang such as "nudies" or simply "nudes". The phrase "nude photos of X" does indeed seem like a retro-construction. This phrasing is also more euphemistic or neutral, perhaps, since as you mentioned, technically, it would be "X" who is nude, but "X" is not the grammatical subject (it is instead within the prepositional "of X").
@user240918 and @GEdgar also make good points.
Note Webster:
nude (adj) bare, naked, nude, bald, barren mean deprived of naturally or conventionally appropriate covering. ... nude applies especially to the unclothed human figure.
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I think the answer is that it's now idiomatic, as you point out. Many of the other answers and comments seem to just state the obvious.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
@JimMack This is wrong. It is not in any way idiomatic. It means what it literally says. Therefore it is not idiomatic. A cat photo is a photo of a cat. A clock hand is the hand of a clock; it is not a hand that is clocky. Cock crow is not a crow that is cocky. Child photos aren't photos that will someday grow up. Rather, they are photos OF children.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
3
It is not idiomatic in the "a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light)", but it is idiomatic in the second sense "a form of expression natural to a language, person, or group of people." Both are from OED
– Carly
4 hours ago
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Collocations modifying photo often don't refer to the photo as a physical object. They instead refer to the subject of the photo, or what's depicted in the image.
To demonstrate this, here are the most common collocations for ____ photo according to the Corpus of Contemporary American English. I have bolded the ones that describe the image (source, subject, or whatever) and italicized the ones that describe a property of the physical photograph. Other results are left unchanged. Numbers describe frequency within the corpus.
- these (434)
family (379)
two (316)- take (243)
color (234)
AP (225)- those (222)
- taking (180)
digital (168)
old (160)
scene (147)
three (135)
nude (129)
framed (124)
satellite (122)
black-and-white (113)- took (112)
aerial (91)
four (87)
five (84)- snapping (82)
wedding (63)
Out of these results, a family photo is understood to be a photo of a family, just as a wedding photo is understood to be a photo of a wedding. Similarly, English has other constructions, like nude photo. The same positioning can also describe provenance (AP photo, satellite photo, aerial photo), quality of photo (black-and-white photo, color photo), physical status (framed photo, digital photo), and so on.
Hearers understand nude photo to refer to what's in the photo because of established usage. Also, the idea of a photo in the "nude" does not make much sense, so the physical interpretation of the object is unlikely. Many media objects have this quality; a ___ book can refer to either the physical object (big book, hardcover book) or to a quality of the text inside (a sad book, a scholarly book). A bit of logic and some arbitrary usage rules determine how people interpret collocations involving media objects.
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One can easily see how a photo of a family becomes a family photo. One can also see why that happens: the latter formulation is simpler and easier to integrate into longer sentences. That, however, is not analogous to the present case. If photos of nude women followed the same pattern, it would turn into nude-women photos, but that's not what actually happens. The puzzling question is why does the adjective nude move to photos, while the of women construction remains. Photos of tall women would never become tall photos of women.
– jsw29
2 hours ago
I don't see the equivalent formation necessarily being photo(s) of nude women. It could easily be photo of a nude. Compare to Dali's Study of a Nude. Nude would thus be an attributive noun in nude photo, just like family in family photo or wedding in wedding photo.
– TaliesinMerlin
56 mins ago
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nude ADJECTIVE
...
1.1 [attributive] Depicting or performed by naked people.
‘she won't do any nude scenes’
Lexico
3
This is just a dictionary definition without any explanation whatsoever. Might just as well post a link in a comment. BTW it's no longer Oxford Dictionaries, it's now called Lexico.
– Mari-Lou A
6 hours ago
@Mari-LouA That makes this answer one of those notorious nomina nuda which people are always railing about. Hard to blame them, really.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
@Mari-LouA ... you are right. Lexico.
– GEdgar
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nude ADJECTIVE
...
1.1 [attributive] Depicting or performed by naked people.
‘she won't do any nude scenes’
Lexico
3
This is just a dictionary definition without any explanation whatsoever. Might just as well post a link in a comment. BTW it's no longer Oxford Dictionaries, it's now called Lexico.
– Mari-Lou A
6 hours ago
@Mari-LouA That makes this answer one of those notorious nomina nuda which people are always railing about. Hard to blame them, really.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
@Mari-LouA ... you are right. Lexico.
– GEdgar
5 hours ago
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nude ADJECTIVE
...
1.1 [attributive] Depicting or performed by naked people.
‘she won't do any nude scenes’
Lexico
nude ADJECTIVE
...
1.1 [attributive] Depicting or performed by naked people.
‘she won't do any nude scenes’
Lexico
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This is just a dictionary definition without any explanation whatsoever. Might just as well post a link in a comment. BTW it's no longer Oxford Dictionaries, it's now called Lexico.
– Mari-Lou A
6 hours ago
@Mari-LouA That makes this answer one of those notorious nomina nuda which people are always railing about. Hard to blame them, really.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
@Mari-LouA ... you are right. Lexico.
– GEdgar
5 hours ago
add a comment |
3
This is just a dictionary definition without any explanation whatsoever. Might just as well post a link in a comment. BTW it's no longer Oxford Dictionaries, it's now called Lexico.
– Mari-Lou A
6 hours ago
@Mari-LouA That makes this answer one of those notorious nomina nuda which people are always railing about. Hard to blame them, really.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
@Mari-LouA ... you are right. Lexico.
– GEdgar
5 hours ago
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This is just a dictionary definition without any explanation whatsoever. Might just as well post a link in a comment. BTW it's no longer Oxford Dictionaries, it's now called Lexico.
– Mari-Lou A
6 hours ago
This is just a dictionary definition without any explanation whatsoever. Might just as well post a link in a comment. BTW it's no longer Oxford Dictionaries, it's now called Lexico.
– Mari-Lou A
6 hours ago
@Mari-LouA That makes this answer one of those notorious nomina nuda which people are always railing about. Hard to blame them, really.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
@Mari-LouA That makes this answer one of those notorious nomina nuda which people are always railing about. Hard to blame them, really.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
@Mari-LouA ... you are right. Lexico.
– GEdgar
5 hours ago
@Mari-LouA ... you are right. Lexico.
– GEdgar
5 hours ago
add a comment |
It’s a way to to refer to photos with nude subjects. As you can see from Ngram this expression took off from the ‘60s/70s when pictures portraying nude people, generally women, started to become popular, as in earlier expression used referring to paintings
Nude:
(of a photograph, painting, statue, etc.) being or prominently displaying a representation of the nude human figure.
(Dictionary.com)
1
Thanks for the Ngram. It reinforces the idea that the phrase has become an idiom.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
1
@JimMack Enough of all this beating around the bush already. It's time to let the cat out of the bag and spill the beans: in exactly what fashion could nude photos EVER be considered any sort of "idiom"?? You're clearly barking up the wrong tree here. The elephant in the room is that old familiar refrain, "A simply qualified noun doth never an idiom make." Since it takes two to tango, the ball's in your court now, Roger Federer.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
It’s a way to to refer to photos with nude subjects. As you can see from Ngram this expression took off from the ‘60s/70s when pictures portraying nude people, generally women, started to become popular, as in earlier expression used referring to paintings
Nude:
(of a photograph, painting, statue, etc.) being or prominently displaying a representation of the nude human figure.
(Dictionary.com)
1
Thanks for the Ngram. It reinforces the idea that the phrase has become an idiom.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
1
@JimMack Enough of all this beating around the bush already. It's time to let the cat out of the bag and spill the beans: in exactly what fashion could nude photos EVER be considered any sort of "idiom"?? You're clearly barking up the wrong tree here. The elephant in the room is that old familiar refrain, "A simply qualified noun doth never an idiom make." Since it takes two to tango, the ball's in your court now, Roger Federer.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
It’s a way to to refer to photos with nude subjects. As you can see from Ngram this expression took off from the ‘60s/70s when pictures portraying nude people, generally women, started to become popular, as in earlier expression used referring to paintings
Nude:
(of a photograph, painting, statue, etc.) being or prominently displaying a representation of the nude human figure.
(Dictionary.com)
It’s a way to to refer to photos with nude subjects. As you can see from Ngram this expression took off from the ‘60s/70s when pictures portraying nude people, generally women, started to become popular, as in earlier expression used referring to paintings
Nude:
(of a photograph, painting, statue, etc.) being or prominently displaying a representation of the nude human figure.
(Dictionary.com)
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Thanks for the Ngram. It reinforces the idea that the phrase has become an idiom.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
1
@JimMack Enough of all this beating around the bush already. It's time to let the cat out of the bag and spill the beans: in exactly what fashion could nude photos EVER be considered any sort of "idiom"?? You're clearly barking up the wrong tree here. The elephant in the room is that old familiar refrain, "A simply qualified noun doth never an idiom make." Since it takes two to tango, the ball's in your court now, Roger Federer.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Thanks for the Ngram. It reinforces the idea that the phrase has become an idiom.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
1
@JimMack Enough of all this beating around the bush already. It's time to let the cat out of the bag and spill the beans: in exactly what fashion could nude photos EVER be considered any sort of "idiom"?? You're clearly barking up the wrong tree here. The elephant in the room is that old familiar refrain, "A simply qualified noun doth never an idiom make." Since it takes two to tango, the ball's in your court now, Roger Federer.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
1
1
Thanks for the Ngram. It reinforces the idea that the phrase has become an idiom.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
Thanks for the Ngram. It reinforces the idea that the phrase has become an idiom.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
1
1
@JimMack Enough of all this beating around the bush already. It's time to let the cat out of the bag and spill the beans: in exactly what fashion could nude photos EVER be considered any sort of "idiom"?? You're clearly barking up the wrong tree here. The elephant in the room is that old familiar refrain, "A simply qualified noun doth never an idiom make." Since it takes two to tango, the ball's in your court now, Roger Federer.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
@JimMack Enough of all this beating around the bush already. It's time to let the cat out of the bag and spill the beans: in exactly what fashion could nude photos EVER be considered any sort of "idiom"?? You're clearly barking up the wrong tree here. The elephant in the room is that old familiar refrain, "A simply qualified noun doth never an idiom make." Since it takes two to tango, the ball's in your court now, Roger Federer.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Nude photos is a noun phrase that has become idiomatic and manifests in slang such as "nudies" or simply "nudes". The phrase "nude photos of X" does indeed seem like a retro-construction. This phrasing is also more euphemistic or neutral, perhaps, since as you mentioned, technically, it would be "X" who is nude, but "X" is not the grammatical subject (it is instead within the prepositional "of X").
@user240918 and @GEdgar also make good points.
Note Webster:
nude (adj) bare, naked, nude, bald, barren mean deprived of naturally or conventionally appropriate covering. ... nude applies especially to the unclothed human figure.
2
I think the answer is that it's now idiomatic, as you point out. Many of the other answers and comments seem to just state the obvious.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
@JimMack This is wrong. It is not in any way idiomatic. It means what it literally says. Therefore it is not idiomatic. A cat photo is a photo of a cat. A clock hand is the hand of a clock; it is not a hand that is clocky. Cock crow is not a crow that is cocky. Child photos aren't photos that will someday grow up. Rather, they are photos OF children.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
3
It is not idiomatic in the "a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light)", but it is idiomatic in the second sense "a form of expression natural to a language, person, or group of people." Both are from OED
– Carly
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Nude photos is a noun phrase that has become idiomatic and manifests in slang such as "nudies" or simply "nudes". The phrase "nude photos of X" does indeed seem like a retro-construction. This phrasing is also more euphemistic or neutral, perhaps, since as you mentioned, technically, it would be "X" who is nude, but "X" is not the grammatical subject (it is instead within the prepositional "of X").
@user240918 and @GEdgar also make good points.
Note Webster:
nude (adj) bare, naked, nude, bald, barren mean deprived of naturally or conventionally appropriate covering. ... nude applies especially to the unclothed human figure.
2
I think the answer is that it's now idiomatic, as you point out. Many of the other answers and comments seem to just state the obvious.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
@JimMack This is wrong. It is not in any way idiomatic. It means what it literally says. Therefore it is not idiomatic. A cat photo is a photo of a cat. A clock hand is the hand of a clock; it is not a hand that is clocky. Cock crow is not a crow that is cocky. Child photos aren't photos that will someday grow up. Rather, they are photos OF children.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
3
It is not idiomatic in the "a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light)", but it is idiomatic in the second sense "a form of expression natural to a language, person, or group of people." Both are from OED
– Carly
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Nude photos is a noun phrase that has become idiomatic and manifests in slang such as "nudies" or simply "nudes". The phrase "nude photos of X" does indeed seem like a retro-construction. This phrasing is also more euphemistic or neutral, perhaps, since as you mentioned, technically, it would be "X" who is nude, but "X" is not the grammatical subject (it is instead within the prepositional "of X").
@user240918 and @GEdgar also make good points.
Note Webster:
nude (adj) bare, naked, nude, bald, barren mean deprived of naturally or conventionally appropriate covering. ... nude applies especially to the unclothed human figure.
Nude photos is a noun phrase that has become idiomatic and manifests in slang such as "nudies" or simply "nudes". The phrase "nude photos of X" does indeed seem like a retro-construction. This phrasing is also more euphemistic or neutral, perhaps, since as you mentioned, technically, it would be "X" who is nude, but "X" is not the grammatical subject (it is instead within the prepositional "of X").
@user240918 and @GEdgar also make good points.
Note Webster:
nude (adj) bare, naked, nude, bald, barren mean deprived of naturally or conventionally appropriate covering. ... nude applies especially to the unclothed human figure.
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I think the answer is that it's now idiomatic, as you point out. Many of the other answers and comments seem to just state the obvious.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
@JimMack This is wrong. It is not in any way idiomatic. It means what it literally says. Therefore it is not idiomatic. A cat photo is a photo of a cat. A clock hand is the hand of a clock; it is not a hand that is clocky. Cock crow is not a crow that is cocky. Child photos aren't photos that will someday grow up. Rather, they are photos OF children.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
3
It is not idiomatic in the "a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light)", but it is idiomatic in the second sense "a form of expression natural to a language, person, or group of people." Both are from OED
– Carly
4 hours ago
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I think the answer is that it's now idiomatic, as you point out. Many of the other answers and comments seem to just state the obvious.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
@JimMack This is wrong. It is not in any way idiomatic. It means what it literally says. Therefore it is not idiomatic. A cat photo is a photo of a cat. A clock hand is the hand of a clock; it is not a hand that is clocky. Cock crow is not a crow that is cocky. Child photos aren't photos that will someday grow up. Rather, they are photos OF children.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
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It is not idiomatic in the "a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light)", but it is idiomatic in the second sense "a form of expression natural to a language, person, or group of people." Both are from OED
– Carly
4 hours ago
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I think the answer is that it's now idiomatic, as you point out. Many of the other answers and comments seem to just state the obvious.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
I think the answer is that it's now idiomatic, as you point out. Many of the other answers and comments seem to just state the obvious.
– Jim Mack
7 hours ago
@JimMack This is wrong. It is not in any way idiomatic. It means what it literally says. Therefore it is not idiomatic. A cat photo is a photo of a cat. A clock hand is the hand of a clock; it is not a hand that is clocky. Cock crow is not a crow that is cocky. Child photos aren't photos that will someday grow up. Rather, they are photos OF children.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
@JimMack This is wrong. It is not in any way idiomatic. It means what it literally says. Therefore it is not idiomatic. A cat photo is a photo of a cat. A clock hand is the hand of a clock; it is not a hand that is clocky. Cock crow is not a crow that is cocky. Child photos aren't photos that will someday grow up. Rather, they are photos OF children.
– tchrist♦
5 hours ago
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It is not idiomatic in the "a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light)", but it is idiomatic in the second sense "a form of expression natural to a language, person, or group of people." Both are from OED
– Carly
4 hours ago
It is not idiomatic in the "a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light)", but it is idiomatic in the second sense "a form of expression natural to a language, person, or group of people." Both are from OED
– Carly
4 hours ago
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Collocations modifying photo often don't refer to the photo as a physical object. They instead refer to the subject of the photo, or what's depicted in the image.
To demonstrate this, here are the most common collocations for ____ photo according to the Corpus of Contemporary American English. I have bolded the ones that describe the image (source, subject, or whatever) and italicized the ones that describe a property of the physical photograph. Other results are left unchanged. Numbers describe frequency within the corpus.
- these (434)
family (379)
two (316)- take (243)
color (234)
AP (225)- those (222)
- taking (180)
digital (168)
old (160)
scene (147)
three (135)
nude (129)
framed (124)
satellite (122)
black-and-white (113)- took (112)
aerial (91)
four (87)
five (84)- snapping (82)
wedding (63)
Out of these results, a family photo is understood to be a photo of a family, just as a wedding photo is understood to be a photo of a wedding. Similarly, English has other constructions, like nude photo. The same positioning can also describe provenance (AP photo, satellite photo, aerial photo), quality of photo (black-and-white photo, color photo), physical status (framed photo, digital photo), and so on.
Hearers understand nude photo to refer to what's in the photo because of established usage. Also, the idea of a photo in the "nude" does not make much sense, so the physical interpretation of the object is unlikely. Many media objects have this quality; a ___ book can refer to either the physical object (big book, hardcover book) or to a quality of the text inside (a sad book, a scholarly book). A bit of logic and some arbitrary usage rules determine how people interpret collocations involving media objects.
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One can easily see how a photo of a family becomes a family photo. One can also see why that happens: the latter formulation is simpler and easier to integrate into longer sentences. That, however, is not analogous to the present case. If photos of nude women followed the same pattern, it would turn into nude-women photos, but that's not what actually happens. The puzzling question is why does the adjective nude move to photos, while the of women construction remains. Photos of tall women would never become tall photos of women.
– jsw29
2 hours ago
I don't see the equivalent formation necessarily being photo(s) of nude women. It could easily be photo of a nude. Compare to Dali's Study of a Nude. Nude would thus be an attributive noun in nude photo, just like family in family photo or wedding in wedding photo.
– TaliesinMerlin
56 mins ago
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Collocations modifying photo often don't refer to the photo as a physical object. They instead refer to the subject of the photo, or what's depicted in the image.
To demonstrate this, here are the most common collocations for ____ photo according to the Corpus of Contemporary American English. I have bolded the ones that describe the image (source, subject, or whatever) and italicized the ones that describe a property of the physical photograph. Other results are left unchanged. Numbers describe frequency within the corpus.
- these (434)
family (379)
two (316)- take (243)
color (234)
AP (225)- those (222)
- taking (180)
digital (168)
old (160)
scene (147)
three (135)
nude (129)
framed (124)
satellite (122)
black-and-white (113)- took (112)
aerial (91)
four (87)
five (84)- snapping (82)
wedding (63)
Out of these results, a family photo is understood to be a photo of a family, just as a wedding photo is understood to be a photo of a wedding. Similarly, English has other constructions, like nude photo. The same positioning can also describe provenance (AP photo, satellite photo, aerial photo), quality of photo (black-and-white photo, color photo), physical status (framed photo, digital photo), and so on.
Hearers understand nude photo to refer to what's in the photo because of established usage. Also, the idea of a photo in the "nude" does not make much sense, so the physical interpretation of the object is unlikely. Many media objects have this quality; a ___ book can refer to either the physical object (big book, hardcover book) or to a quality of the text inside (a sad book, a scholarly book). A bit of logic and some arbitrary usage rules determine how people interpret collocations involving media objects.
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One can easily see how a photo of a family becomes a family photo. One can also see why that happens: the latter formulation is simpler and easier to integrate into longer sentences. That, however, is not analogous to the present case. If photos of nude women followed the same pattern, it would turn into nude-women photos, but that's not what actually happens. The puzzling question is why does the adjective nude move to photos, while the of women construction remains. Photos of tall women would never become tall photos of women.
– jsw29
2 hours ago
I don't see the equivalent formation necessarily being photo(s) of nude women. It could easily be photo of a nude. Compare to Dali's Study of a Nude. Nude would thus be an attributive noun in nude photo, just like family in family photo or wedding in wedding photo.
– TaliesinMerlin
56 mins ago
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Collocations modifying photo often don't refer to the photo as a physical object. They instead refer to the subject of the photo, or what's depicted in the image.
To demonstrate this, here are the most common collocations for ____ photo according to the Corpus of Contemporary American English. I have bolded the ones that describe the image (source, subject, or whatever) and italicized the ones that describe a property of the physical photograph. Other results are left unchanged. Numbers describe frequency within the corpus.
- these (434)
family (379)
two (316)- take (243)
color (234)
AP (225)- those (222)
- taking (180)
digital (168)
old (160)
scene (147)
three (135)
nude (129)
framed (124)
satellite (122)
black-and-white (113)- took (112)
aerial (91)
four (87)
five (84)- snapping (82)
wedding (63)
Out of these results, a family photo is understood to be a photo of a family, just as a wedding photo is understood to be a photo of a wedding. Similarly, English has other constructions, like nude photo. The same positioning can also describe provenance (AP photo, satellite photo, aerial photo), quality of photo (black-and-white photo, color photo), physical status (framed photo, digital photo), and so on.
Hearers understand nude photo to refer to what's in the photo because of established usage. Also, the idea of a photo in the "nude" does not make much sense, so the physical interpretation of the object is unlikely. Many media objects have this quality; a ___ book can refer to either the physical object (big book, hardcover book) or to a quality of the text inside (a sad book, a scholarly book). A bit of logic and some arbitrary usage rules determine how people interpret collocations involving media objects.
Collocations modifying photo often don't refer to the photo as a physical object. They instead refer to the subject of the photo, or what's depicted in the image.
To demonstrate this, here are the most common collocations for ____ photo according to the Corpus of Contemporary American English. I have bolded the ones that describe the image (source, subject, or whatever) and italicized the ones that describe a property of the physical photograph. Other results are left unchanged. Numbers describe frequency within the corpus.
- these (434)
family (379)
two (316)- take (243)
color (234)
AP (225)- those (222)
- taking (180)
digital (168)
old (160)
scene (147)
three (135)
nude (129)
framed (124)
satellite (122)
black-and-white (113)- took (112)
aerial (91)
four (87)
five (84)- snapping (82)
wedding (63)
Out of these results, a family photo is understood to be a photo of a family, just as a wedding photo is understood to be a photo of a wedding. Similarly, English has other constructions, like nude photo. The same positioning can also describe provenance (AP photo, satellite photo, aerial photo), quality of photo (black-and-white photo, color photo), physical status (framed photo, digital photo), and so on.
Hearers understand nude photo to refer to what's in the photo because of established usage. Also, the idea of a photo in the "nude" does not make much sense, so the physical interpretation of the object is unlikely. Many media objects have this quality; a ___ book can refer to either the physical object (big book, hardcover book) or to a quality of the text inside (a sad book, a scholarly book). A bit of logic and some arbitrary usage rules determine how people interpret collocations involving media objects.
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One can easily see how a photo of a family becomes a family photo. One can also see why that happens: the latter formulation is simpler and easier to integrate into longer sentences. That, however, is not analogous to the present case. If photos of nude women followed the same pattern, it would turn into nude-women photos, but that's not what actually happens. The puzzling question is why does the adjective nude move to photos, while the of women construction remains. Photos of tall women would never become tall photos of women.
– jsw29
2 hours ago
I don't see the equivalent formation necessarily being photo(s) of nude women. It could easily be photo of a nude. Compare to Dali's Study of a Nude. Nude would thus be an attributive noun in nude photo, just like family in family photo or wedding in wedding photo.
– TaliesinMerlin
56 mins ago
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One can easily see how a photo of a family becomes a family photo. One can also see why that happens: the latter formulation is simpler and easier to integrate into longer sentences. That, however, is not analogous to the present case. If photos of nude women followed the same pattern, it would turn into nude-women photos, but that's not what actually happens. The puzzling question is why does the adjective nude move to photos, while the of women construction remains. Photos of tall women would never become tall photos of women.
– jsw29
2 hours ago
I don't see the equivalent formation necessarily being photo(s) of nude women. It could easily be photo of a nude. Compare to Dali's Study of a Nude. Nude would thus be an attributive noun in nude photo, just like family in family photo or wedding in wedding photo.
– TaliesinMerlin
56 mins ago
2
2
One can easily see how a photo of a family becomes a family photo. One can also see why that happens: the latter formulation is simpler and easier to integrate into longer sentences. That, however, is not analogous to the present case. If photos of nude women followed the same pattern, it would turn into nude-women photos, but that's not what actually happens. The puzzling question is why does the adjective nude move to photos, while the of women construction remains. Photos of tall women would never become tall photos of women.
– jsw29
2 hours ago
One can easily see how a photo of a family becomes a family photo. One can also see why that happens: the latter formulation is simpler and easier to integrate into longer sentences. That, however, is not analogous to the present case. If photos of nude women followed the same pattern, it would turn into nude-women photos, but that's not what actually happens. The puzzling question is why does the adjective nude move to photos, while the of women construction remains. Photos of tall women would never become tall photos of women.
– jsw29
2 hours ago
I don't see the equivalent formation necessarily being photo(s) of nude women. It could easily be photo of a nude. Compare to Dali's Study of a Nude. Nude would thus be an attributive noun in nude photo, just like family in family photo or wedding in wedding photo.
– TaliesinMerlin
56 mins ago
I don't see the equivalent formation necessarily being photo(s) of nude women. It could easily be photo of a nude. Compare to Dali's Study of a Nude. Nude would thus be an attributive noun in nude photo, just like family in family photo or wedding in wedding photo.
– TaliesinMerlin
56 mins ago
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It’s no different than pictures of me playing baseball being called my baseball photos or calling the pictures of me swimming my swimming photos.
– Jim
8 hours ago
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A nude photo is nude in the same sense that a beer bottle is beer.
– RegDwigнt♦
7 hours ago
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For the same reason as there are cat videos
– marcellothearcane
7 hours ago
See also: vacation photos, yearbook photos
– TaliesinMerlin
5 hours ago
@RegDwigнt♦ A beer bottle is a beer bottle regardless of whether it contains beer or not.
– Spencer
3 hours ago