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How to derive this identity
Proving $ 2n choose n = 2^n frac 1 cdot 3 cdot 5 cdots (2n-1)n! $Spivak's Calculus (Chapter 2, Exercise 17)Help manipulating simple cubic equationHelp needed verifying a trigonometric identityHow to prove this identity (equality)?Does $L^2 = P^2$ implies that $L = P$?How much velocity can a canister of fuel give a spaceship?Why $e^kn^k<k^ke^frac n-k2^k$ whenever $n geq k^2 2^k ln 2 (1+o(1)) $?Is it possible to perform a computation to know if an object is at rest and its location given a force versus position diagram?How was this sum simplified to a ratio of Sinh functions?
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$$ frac ab -x= frac c-xdb+left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right) $$
It is easy to check it by computing right hand side. It feels unnatural and a little magical. I could't derive it starting from LHS
This identity is used in the proof of Stolz Cesaro theorem (https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Теорема_Штольца). It is in russian I understood with the help of google translate .
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$$ frac ab -x= frac c-xdb+left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right) $$
It is easy to check it by computing right hand side. It feels unnatural and a little magical. I could't derive it starting from LHS
This identity is used in the proof of Stolz Cesaro theorem (https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Теорема_Штольца). It is in russian I understood with the help of google translate .
algebra-precalculus
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If you know what you are aiming at then you can start by adding and subtracting $fracc-xdb$ ...
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– Martin R
10 hours ago
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There is a reason why the LHS is transformed like this. $b$ and $d$ do not fall from the sky. It seems you have to read the proof again more carefully.
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– callculus
10 hours ago
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Step by step reduce the LHS to the RHS. Turn that upside down and you derive the RHS to the LHS.
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– steven gregory
8 hours ago
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@callculus It is transformed like that so we can show it is less than epsilon. In the proof i have the identity does fall from the sky. If you have a more intuitive explenation please share .
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– Milan
8 hours ago
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Do you have a reference for the proof? If so, please include the link in your question in order to make it self contained.
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– Somos
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$$ frac ab -x= frac c-xdb+left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right) $$
It is easy to check it by computing right hand side. It feels unnatural and a little magical. I could't derive it starting from LHS
This identity is used in the proof of Stolz Cesaro theorem (https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Теорема_Штольца). It is in russian I understood with the help of google translate .
algebra-precalculus
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$$ frac ab -x= frac c-xdb+left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right) $$
It is easy to check it by computing right hand side. It feels unnatural and a little magical. I could't derive it starting from LHS
This identity is used in the proof of Stolz Cesaro theorem (https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Теорема_Штольца). It is in russian I understood with the help of google translate .
algebra-precalculus
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If you know what you are aiming at then you can start by adding and subtracting $fracc-xdb$ ...
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– Martin R
10 hours ago
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There is a reason why the LHS is transformed like this. $b$ and $d$ do not fall from the sky. It seems you have to read the proof again more carefully.
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– callculus
10 hours ago
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Step by step reduce the LHS to the RHS. Turn that upside down and you derive the RHS to the LHS.
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– steven gregory
8 hours ago
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@callculus It is transformed like that so we can show it is less than epsilon. In the proof i have the identity does fall from the sky. If you have a more intuitive explenation please share .
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– Milan
8 hours ago
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Do you have a reference for the proof? If so, please include the link in your question in order to make it self contained.
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– Somos
7 hours ago
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If you know what you are aiming at then you can start by adding and subtracting $fracc-xdb$ ...
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– Martin R
10 hours ago
3
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There is a reason why the LHS is transformed like this. $b$ and $d$ do not fall from the sky. It seems you have to read the proof again more carefully.
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– callculus
10 hours ago
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Step by step reduce the LHS to the RHS. Turn that upside down and you derive the RHS to the LHS.
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– steven gregory
8 hours ago
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@callculus It is transformed like that so we can show it is less than epsilon. In the proof i have the identity does fall from the sky. If you have a more intuitive explenation please share .
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– Milan
8 hours ago
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Do you have a reference for the proof? If so, please include the link in your question in order to make it self contained.
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– Somos
7 hours ago
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If you know what you are aiming at then you can start by adding and subtracting $fracc-xdb$ ...
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– Martin R
10 hours ago
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If you know what you are aiming at then you can start by adding and subtracting $fracc-xdb$ ...
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– Martin R
10 hours ago
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3
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There is a reason why the LHS is transformed like this. $b$ and $d$ do not fall from the sky. It seems you have to read the proof again more carefully.
$endgroup$
– callculus
10 hours ago
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There is a reason why the LHS is transformed like this. $b$ and $d$ do not fall from the sky. It seems you have to read the proof again more carefully.
$endgroup$
– callculus
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
Step by step reduce the LHS to the RHS. Turn that upside down and you derive the RHS to the LHS.
$endgroup$
– steven gregory
8 hours ago
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Step by step reduce the LHS to the RHS. Turn that upside down and you derive the RHS to the LHS.
$endgroup$
– steven gregory
8 hours ago
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@callculus It is transformed like that so we can show it is less than epsilon. In the proof i have the identity does fall from the sky. If you have a more intuitive explenation please share .
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– Milan
8 hours ago
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@callculus It is transformed like that so we can show it is less than epsilon. In the proof i have the identity does fall from the sky. If you have a more intuitive explenation please share .
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– Milan
8 hours ago
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Do you have a reference for the proof? If so, please include the link in your question in order to make it self contained.
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– Somos
7 hours ago
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Do you have a reference for the proof? If so, please include the link in your question in order to make it self contained.
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Consider the task of cooking up a straight line by combining two other straight lines.
Given a straight line $y=-x+a$
You want to represent this as a sum of two other straight lines.
Letting the slope of one line to $-m$ forces the slope of other line to $-(1-m)$.
You can get that by comparing like terms in :
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c - m'x+c'$$
Also constant term is $a-c$.
So above equation becomes
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c + (1-m)left(dfraca-c1-m-xright)$$
Replacing $m$ by $fracdb$ and $a$ by $fracab$ gives your eqn.
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that's an interesting way to concretize and visualize why such a transformation (+1)
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– G Cab
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Starting from the LHS
$$fracab-x$$
we can subtract and add $fracc-xdb$ to form
$$Big(fracab-xBig) - fracc-xdb + fracc-xdb$$
which rearranges to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fracab-x-fracc-xdbBig)$$
or
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-c+xdb-xBig)$$
which is equivalent to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$$
where $left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right) = Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$ and therefore we have the RHS
$$fracc-xdb+left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right)$$
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Let
$$
Z=:fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
Let
$$ K=fracleft(c-xdright)b$$
Let
$$ N=left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
$$Z=K+N$$
We will rewrite $left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$ as:
$$left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):=left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):$$
$$N:=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b-d:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right)$$
Using $Z=K+N$ and substituting the last expression for $N$ we get:
$$z:=fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right) $$
$$z:=left(fraca:-xbb:right)$$
$$ z:=fraca:b-x$$
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Consider the task of cooking up a straight line by combining two other straight lines.
Given a straight line $y=-x+a$
You want to represent this as a sum of two other straight lines.
Letting the slope of one line to $-m$ forces the slope of other line to $-(1-m)$.
You can get that by comparing like terms in :
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c - m'x+c'$$
Also constant term is $a-c$.
So above equation becomes
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c + (1-m)left(dfraca-c1-m-xright)$$
Replacing $m$ by $fracdb$ and $a$ by $fracab$ gives your eqn.
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that's an interesting way to concretize and visualize why such a transformation (+1)
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– G Cab
8 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Consider the task of cooking up a straight line by combining two other straight lines.
Given a straight line $y=-x+a$
You want to represent this as a sum of two other straight lines.
Letting the slope of one line to $-m$ forces the slope of other line to $-(1-m)$.
You can get that by comparing like terms in :
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c - m'x+c'$$
Also constant term is $a-c$.
So above equation becomes
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c + (1-m)left(dfraca-c1-m-xright)$$
Replacing $m$ by $fracdb$ and $a$ by $fracab$ gives your eqn.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
that's an interesting way to concretize and visualize why such a transformation (+1)
$endgroup$
– G Cab
8 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Consider the task of cooking up a straight line by combining two other straight lines.
Given a straight line $y=-x+a$
You want to represent this as a sum of two other straight lines.
Letting the slope of one line to $-m$ forces the slope of other line to $-(1-m)$.
You can get that by comparing like terms in :
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c - m'x+c'$$
Also constant term is $a-c$.
So above equation becomes
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c + (1-m)left(dfraca-c1-m-xright)$$
Replacing $m$ by $fracdb$ and $a$ by $fracab$ gives your eqn.
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Consider the task of cooking up a straight line by combining two other straight lines.
Given a straight line $y=-x+a$
You want to represent this as a sum of two other straight lines.
Letting the slope of one line to $-m$ forces the slope of other line to $-(1-m)$.
You can get that by comparing like terms in :
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c - m'x+c'$$
Also constant term is $a-c$.
So above equation becomes
$$colorred-x+a = colorblue-mx + c + (1-m)left(dfraca-c1-m-xright)$$
Replacing $m$ by $fracdb$ and $a$ by $fracab$ gives your eqn.
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that's an interesting way to concretize and visualize why such a transformation (+1)
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that's an interesting way to concretize and visualize why such a transformation (+1)
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– G Cab
8 hours ago
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1
$begingroup$
that's an interesting way to concretize and visualize why such a transformation (+1)
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– G Cab
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
that's an interesting way to concretize and visualize why such a transformation (+1)
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8 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Starting from the LHS
$$fracab-x$$
we can subtract and add $fracc-xdb$ to form
$$Big(fracab-xBig) - fracc-xdb + fracc-xdb$$
which rearranges to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fracab-x-fracc-xdbBig)$$
or
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-c+xdb-xBig)$$
which is equivalent to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$$
where $left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right) = Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$ and therefore we have the RHS
$$fracc-xdb+left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right)$$
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$begingroup$
Starting from the LHS
$$fracab-x$$
we can subtract and add $fracc-xdb$ to form
$$Big(fracab-xBig) - fracc-xdb + fracc-xdb$$
which rearranges to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fracab-x-fracc-xdbBig)$$
or
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-c+xdb-xBig)$$
which is equivalent to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$$
where $left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right) = Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$ and therefore we have the RHS
$$fracc-xdb+left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right)$$
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$begingroup$
Starting from the LHS
$$fracab-x$$
we can subtract and add $fracc-xdb$ to form
$$Big(fracab-xBig) - fracc-xdb + fracc-xdb$$
which rearranges to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fracab-x-fracc-xdbBig)$$
or
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-c+xdb-xBig)$$
which is equivalent to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$$
where $left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right) = Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$ and therefore we have the RHS
$$fracc-xdb+left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right)$$
$endgroup$
Starting from the LHS
$$fracab-x$$
we can subtract and add $fracc-xdb$ to form
$$Big(fracab-xBig) - fracc-xdb + fracc-xdb$$
which rearranges to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fracab-x-fracc-xdbBig)$$
or
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-c+xdb-xBig)$$
which is equivalent to
$$fracc-xdb+Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$$
where $left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right) = Big(fraca-bx-c+dxbBig)$ and therefore we have the RHS
$$fracc-xdb+left(fracb-dbright) left(fraca-cb-d - x right)$$
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Let
$$
Z=:fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
Let
$$ K=fracleft(c-xdright)b$$
Let
$$ N=left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
$$Z=K+N$$
We will rewrite $left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$ as:
$$left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):=left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):$$
$$N:=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b-d:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right)$$
Using $Z=K+N$ and substituting the last expression for $N$ we get:
$$z:=fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right) $$
$$z:=left(fraca:-xbb:right)$$
$$ z:=fraca:b-x$$
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Let
$$
Z=:fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
Let
$$ K=fracleft(c-xdright)b$$
Let
$$ N=left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
$$Z=K+N$$
We will rewrite $left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$ as:
$$left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):=left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):$$
$$N:=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b-d:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right)$$
Using $Z=K+N$ and substituting the last expression for $N$ we get:
$$z:=fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right) $$
$$z:=left(fraca:-xbb:right)$$
$$ z:=fraca:b-x$$
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$begingroup$
Let
$$
Z=:fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
Let
$$ K=fracleft(c-xdright)b$$
Let
$$ N=left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
$$Z=K+N$$
We will rewrite $left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$ as:
$$left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):=left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):$$
$$N:=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b-d:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right)$$
Using $Z=K+N$ and substituting the last expression for $N$ we get:
$$z:=fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right) $$
$$z:=left(fraca:-xbb:right)$$
$$ z:=fraca:b-x$$
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Let
$$
Z=:fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
Let
$$ K=fracleft(c-xdright)b$$
Let
$$ N=left(fracb-dbright):left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$$
$$Z=K+N$$
We will rewrite $left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):$ as:
$$left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:right):=left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):$$
$$N:=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-cb-d:-:x:fracleft(b-dright)left(b-dright):right):=left(fracb-dbright)left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b-d:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xleft(b-dright)b:right)$$
$$N:=left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right)$$
Using $Z=K+N$ and substituting the last expression for $N$ we get:
$$z:=fracleft(c-xdright)b+left(fraca-c:-xb+xdb:right) $$
$$z:=left(fraca:-xbb:right)$$
$$ z:=fraca:b-x$$
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If you know what you are aiming at then you can start by adding and subtracting $fracc-xdb$ ...
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– Martin R
10 hours ago
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There is a reason why the LHS is transformed like this. $b$ and $d$ do not fall from the sky. It seems you have to read the proof again more carefully.
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– callculus
10 hours ago
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Step by step reduce the LHS to the RHS. Turn that upside down and you derive the RHS to the LHS.
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– steven gregory
8 hours ago
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@callculus It is transformed like that so we can show it is less than epsilon. In the proof i have the identity does fall from the sky. If you have a more intuitive explenation please share .
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– Milan
8 hours ago
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Do you have a reference for the proof? If so, please include the link in your question in order to make it self contained.
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– Somos
7 hours ago