Is the Amazon rainforest the “world's lungs”?

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Is the Amazon rainforest the “world's lungs”?







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The 72 million Google results for "Amazon world lungs" (unquoted) is evidence enough that there's a common perception that the Amazon rainforest is the "world's lungs". God knows I grew up believing that.



At one point I read that this was incorrect, since the forest consumes just as much oxygen as it produces. But then I was told that was just anti-environmental propaganda.



Now with the Amazon fires all over the news, I've started hearing this once again (for example, this Forbes article). So, is the Amazon a (significant) net source of oxygen?



If not, how adequate are the substitutes mentioned in that article (i.e. soy farms and cow pastures)?



(And, if this doesn't extend the scope of the question too much: if (rain)forests aren't net sources of oxygen, what is?)










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    The 72 million Google results for "Amazon world lungs" (unquoted) is evidence enough that there's a common perception that the Amazon rainforest is the "world's lungs". God knows I grew up believing that.



    At one point I read that this was incorrect, since the forest consumes just as much oxygen as it produces. But then I was told that was just anti-environmental propaganda.



    Now with the Amazon fires all over the news, I've started hearing this once again (for example, this Forbes article). So, is the Amazon a (significant) net source of oxygen?



    If not, how adequate are the substitutes mentioned in that article (i.e. soy farms and cow pastures)?



    (And, if this doesn't extend the scope of the question too much: if (rain)forests aren't net sources of oxygen, what is?)










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      The 72 million Google results for "Amazon world lungs" (unquoted) is evidence enough that there's a common perception that the Amazon rainforest is the "world's lungs". God knows I grew up believing that.



      At one point I read that this was incorrect, since the forest consumes just as much oxygen as it produces. But then I was told that was just anti-environmental propaganda.



      Now with the Amazon fires all over the news, I've started hearing this once again (for example, this Forbes article). So, is the Amazon a (significant) net source of oxygen?



      If not, how adequate are the substitutes mentioned in that article (i.e. soy farms and cow pastures)?



      (And, if this doesn't extend the scope of the question too much: if (rain)forests aren't net sources of oxygen, what is?)










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      The 72 million Google results for "Amazon world lungs" (unquoted) is evidence enough that there's a common perception that the Amazon rainforest is the "world's lungs". God knows I grew up believing that.



      At one point I read that this was incorrect, since the forest consumes just as much oxygen as it produces. But then I was told that was just anti-environmental propaganda.



      Now with the Amazon fires all over the news, I've started hearing this once again (for example, this Forbes article). So, is the Amazon a (significant) net source of oxygen?



      If not, how adequate are the substitutes mentioned in that article (i.e. soy farms and cow pastures)?



      (And, if this doesn't extend the scope of the question too much: if (rain)forests aren't net sources of oxygen, what is?)







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          The Forbes article asserting the Amazon contributes net zero is correct. The link below shows the environmental science to back it up and also adds an important conclusion about our sources of oxygen.



          http://www.yadvindermalhi.org/blog/does-the-amazon-provide-20-of-our-oxygen




          The oxygen levels in the atmosphere are set on million year timescales by the subtle balance of geological, chemical and biological processes. They are not set by the short term (short term equals anything less than hundreds of thousands of years) activities or existence of current biomes.



          A final point to make is that the atmosphere is awash with oxygen, at 20.95% or 209,500 ppm (parts per million). Carbon dioxide, by comparison, is around 405 ppm, over 500 times less than oxygen, and rising by around 2-3 ppm per year. Human activity (around 90% of which being fossil fuel combustion) has caused this oxygen concentration to drop by around 0.005% since 1990, a trivial amount. In parallel, the same activities have caused carbon dioxide concentrations to rise by by 37 ppm since 1990, or 10%. This is a much more substantial percentage because there is so little carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to begin with, so human activities that emit or absorb carbon dioxide can make a major difference. This is why we need to worry about the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere (and its resulting impact on climate), and why we don't need to worry about running out of oxygen







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            I'm not sure where have I first stumbled upon this information, but I think it was during my childhood when media was not centered on the rain forests so much. The primary oxygen production on Earth is actually happening in oceans. Here are few articles I found:



            • Oceans produce ~80% of world's oxygen

            • Phytoplankton produces 50-85% of atmosphere's oxygen

            This article says that scientists prefer term oxygen turnover. The term production is very misleading. Rain forests actually produce about as much as they consume because of decomposing plants and animals.



            Although media nowadays may say the Amazon is the lungs of our planet, I wouldn't justify burning it just because the forest is not an oxygen producer. It is still a part of nature and burning it can narrow the diversity of both plants and animals, which can have consequences on the whole planet.






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              It's worth noting that mature trees are a natural carbon sink, as their growth removed a lot of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, storing it in the form of cellulose and other ligneous matter. So while the recent fires have little effect on the forest's ability to remove atmospheric carbon, they just released a whole bunch of it. And since new (young) trees are likely not going to be planted because of Brazil's economic situation, this atmospheric carbon is not going to go away any time soon.

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            The Forbes article asserting the Amazon contributes net zero is correct. The link below shows the environmental science to back it up and also adds an important conclusion about our sources of oxygen.



            http://www.yadvindermalhi.org/blog/does-the-amazon-provide-20-of-our-oxygen




            The oxygen levels in the atmosphere are set on million year timescales by the subtle balance of geological, chemical and biological processes. They are not set by the short term (short term equals anything less than hundreds of thousands of years) activities or existence of current biomes.



            A final point to make is that the atmosphere is awash with oxygen, at 20.95% or 209,500 ppm (parts per million). Carbon dioxide, by comparison, is around 405 ppm, over 500 times less than oxygen, and rising by around 2-3 ppm per year. Human activity (around 90% of which being fossil fuel combustion) has caused this oxygen concentration to drop by around 0.005% since 1990, a trivial amount. In parallel, the same activities have caused carbon dioxide concentrations to rise by by 37 ppm since 1990, or 10%. This is a much more substantial percentage because there is so little carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to begin with, so human activities that emit or absorb carbon dioxide can make a major difference. This is why we need to worry about the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere (and its resulting impact on climate), and why we don't need to worry about running out of oxygen







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              The Forbes article asserting the Amazon contributes net zero is correct. The link below shows the environmental science to back it up and also adds an important conclusion about our sources of oxygen.



              http://www.yadvindermalhi.org/blog/does-the-amazon-provide-20-of-our-oxygen




              The oxygen levels in the atmosphere are set on million year timescales by the subtle balance of geological, chemical and biological processes. They are not set by the short term (short term equals anything less than hundreds of thousands of years) activities or existence of current biomes.



              A final point to make is that the atmosphere is awash with oxygen, at 20.95% or 209,500 ppm (parts per million). Carbon dioxide, by comparison, is around 405 ppm, over 500 times less than oxygen, and rising by around 2-3 ppm per year. Human activity (around 90% of which being fossil fuel combustion) has caused this oxygen concentration to drop by around 0.005% since 1990, a trivial amount. In parallel, the same activities have caused carbon dioxide concentrations to rise by by 37 ppm since 1990, or 10%. This is a much more substantial percentage because there is so little carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to begin with, so human activities that emit or absorb carbon dioxide can make a major difference. This is why we need to worry about the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere (and its resulting impact on climate), and why we don't need to worry about running out of oxygen







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                The Forbes article asserting the Amazon contributes net zero is correct. The link below shows the environmental science to back it up and also adds an important conclusion about our sources of oxygen.



                http://www.yadvindermalhi.org/blog/does-the-amazon-provide-20-of-our-oxygen




                The oxygen levels in the atmosphere are set on million year timescales by the subtle balance of geological, chemical and biological processes. They are not set by the short term (short term equals anything less than hundreds of thousands of years) activities or existence of current biomes.



                A final point to make is that the atmosphere is awash with oxygen, at 20.95% or 209,500 ppm (parts per million). Carbon dioxide, by comparison, is around 405 ppm, over 500 times less than oxygen, and rising by around 2-3 ppm per year. Human activity (around 90% of which being fossil fuel combustion) has caused this oxygen concentration to drop by around 0.005% since 1990, a trivial amount. In parallel, the same activities have caused carbon dioxide concentrations to rise by by 37 ppm since 1990, or 10%. This is a much more substantial percentage because there is so little carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to begin with, so human activities that emit or absorb carbon dioxide can make a major difference. This is why we need to worry about the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere (and its resulting impact on climate), and why we don't need to worry about running out of oxygen







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                The Forbes article asserting the Amazon contributes net zero is correct. The link below shows the environmental science to back it up and also adds an important conclusion about our sources of oxygen.



                http://www.yadvindermalhi.org/blog/does-the-amazon-provide-20-of-our-oxygen




                The oxygen levels in the atmosphere are set on million year timescales by the subtle balance of geological, chemical and biological processes. They are not set by the short term (short term equals anything less than hundreds of thousands of years) activities or existence of current biomes.



                A final point to make is that the atmosphere is awash with oxygen, at 20.95% or 209,500 ppm (parts per million). Carbon dioxide, by comparison, is around 405 ppm, over 500 times less than oxygen, and rising by around 2-3 ppm per year. Human activity (around 90% of which being fossil fuel combustion) has caused this oxygen concentration to drop by around 0.005% since 1990, a trivial amount. In parallel, the same activities have caused carbon dioxide concentrations to rise by by 37 ppm since 1990, or 10%. This is a much more substantial percentage because there is so little carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to begin with, so human activities that emit or absorb carbon dioxide can make a major difference. This is why we need to worry about the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere (and its resulting impact on climate), and why we don't need to worry about running out of oxygen








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                    I'm not sure where have I first stumbled upon this information, but I think it was during my childhood when media was not centered on the rain forests so much. The primary oxygen production on Earth is actually happening in oceans. Here are few articles I found:



                    • Oceans produce ~80% of world's oxygen

                    • Phytoplankton produces 50-85% of atmosphere's oxygen

                    This article says that scientists prefer term oxygen turnover. The term production is very misleading. Rain forests actually produce about as much as they consume because of decomposing plants and animals.



                    Although media nowadays may say the Amazon is the lungs of our planet, I wouldn't justify burning it just because the forest is not an oxygen producer. It is still a part of nature and burning it can narrow the diversity of both plants and animals, which can have consequences on the whole planet.






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                      It's worth noting that mature trees are a natural carbon sink, as their growth removed a lot of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, storing it in the form of cellulose and other ligneous matter. So while the recent fires have little effect on the forest's ability to remove atmospheric carbon, they just released a whole bunch of it. And since new (young) trees are likely not going to be planted because of Brazil's economic situation, this atmospheric carbon is not going to go away any time soon.

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                    I'm not sure where have I first stumbled upon this information, but I think it was during my childhood when media was not centered on the rain forests so much. The primary oxygen production on Earth is actually happening in oceans. Here are few articles I found:



                    • Oceans produce ~80% of world's oxygen

                    • Phytoplankton produces 50-85% of atmosphere's oxygen

                    This article says that scientists prefer term oxygen turnover. The term production is very misleading. Rain forests actually produce about as much as they consume because of decomposing plants and animals.



                    Although media nowadays may say the Amazon is the lungs of our planet, I wouldn't justify burning it just because the forest is not an oxygen producer. It is still a part of nature and burning it can narrow the diversity of both plants and animals, which can have consequences on the whole planet.






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                      It's worth noting that mature trees are a natural carbon sink, as their growth removed a lot of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, storing it in the form of cellulose and other ligneous matter. So while the recent fires have little effect on the forest's ability to remove atmospheric carbon, they just released a whole bunch of it. And since new (young) trees are likely not going to be planted because of Brazil's economic situation, this atmospheric carbon is not going to go away any time soon.

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                    I'm not sure where have I first stumbled upon this information, but I think it was during my childhood when media was not centered on the rain forests so much. The primary oxygen production on Earth is actually happening in oceans. Here are few articles I found:



                    • Oceans produce ~80% of world's oxygen

                    • Phytoplankton produces 50-85% of atmosphere's oxygen

                    This article says that scientists prefer term oxygen turnover. The term production is very misleading. Rain forests actually produce about as much as they consume because of decomposing plants and animals.



                    Although media nowadays may say the Amazon is the lungs of our planet, I wouldn't justify burning it just because the forest is not an oxygen producer. It is still a part of nature and burning it can narrow the diversity of both plants and animals, which can have consequences on the whole planet.






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                    I'm not sure where have I first stumbled upon this information, but I think it was during my childhood when media was not centered on the rain forests so much. The primary oxygen production on Earth is actually happening in oceans. Here are few articles I found:



                    • Oceans produce ~80% of world's oxygen

                    • Phytoplankton produces 50-85% of atmosphere's oxygen

                    This article says that scientists prefer term oxygen turnover. The term production is very misleading. Rain forests actually produce about as much as they consume because of decomposing plants and animals.



                    Although media nowadays may say the Amazon is the lungs of our planet, I wouldn't justify burning it just because the forest is not an oxygen producer. It is still a part of nature and burning it can narrow the diversity of both plants and animals, which can have consequences on the whole planet.







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                      It's worth noting that mature trees are a natural carbon sink, as their growth removed a lot of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, storing it in the form of cellulose and other ligneous matter. So while the recent fires have little effect on the forest's ability to remove atmospheric carbon, they just released a whole bunch of it. And since new (young) trees are likely not going to be planted because of Brazil's economic situation, this atmospheric carbon is not going to go away any time soon.

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                      It's worth noting that mature trees are a natural carbon sink, as their growth removed a lot of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, storing it in the form of cellulose and other ligneous matter. So while the recent fires have little effect on the forest's ability to remove atmospheric carbon, they just released a whole bunch of it. And since new (young) trees are likely not going to be planted because of Brazil's economic situation, this atmospheric carbon is not going to go away any time soon.

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                    It's worth noting that mature trees are a natural carbon sink, as their growth removed a lot of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, storing it in the form of cellulose and other ligneous matter. So while the recent fires have little effect on the forest's ability to remove atmospheric carbon, they just released a whole bunch of it. And since new (young) trees are likely not going to be planted because of Brazil's economic situation, this atmospheric carbon is not going to go away any time soon.

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                    It's worth noting that mature trees are a natural carbon sink, as their growth removed a lot of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, storing it in the form of cellulose and other ligneous matter. So while the recent fires have little effect on the forest's ability to remove atmospheric carbon, they just released a whole bunch of it. And since new (young) trees are likely not going to be planted because of Brazil's economic situation, this atmospheric carbon is not going to go away any time soon.

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