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I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I wanted to double check.
Mounts and Vehicles. An animal pulling a carriage, cart, chariot, sled, or wagon can move weight up to five times its base carrying capacity, including the weight of the vehicle. If multiple animals pull the same vehicle, they can add their carrying capacity together. (PHB, pg 155)
My understanding... is no. It would be calculated just like a normal character.
Equine Build. You count as one size larger when determining your carrying capacity and the weight you can push or drag. (GGtR, pg 16)
Push, Drag, or Lift. You can push, drag, or lift a weight in pounds up to twice your carrying capacity (or 30 times your Strength score). While pushing or dragging weight in excess of your carrying capacity, your speed drops to 5 feet. (PHB, pg 176)
EX. (Strength Score x 30 x 2) = Centaur's Push/Drag Carrying Capacity
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I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I wanted to double check.
Mounts and Vehicles. An animal pulling a carriage, cart, chariot, sled, or wagon can move weight up to five times its base carrying capacity, including the weight of the vehicle. If multiple animals pull the same vehicle, they can add their carrying capacity together. (PHB, pg 155)
My understanding... is no. It would be calculated just like a normal character.
Equine Build. You count as one size larger when determining your carrying capacity and the weight you can push or drag. (GGtR, pg 16)
Push, Drag, or Lift. You can push, drag, or lift a weight in pounds up to twice your carrying capacity (or 30 times your Strength score). While pushing or dragging weight in excess of your carrying capacity, your speed drops to 5 feet. (PHB, pg 176)
EX. (Strength Score x 30 x 2) = Centaur's Push/Drag Carrying Capacity
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Just to close the loop, are you looking for a Centaur PC/NPC to be used as a draft animal?
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@NautArch The question was from a player. Basically he wanted to use the 5x carrying capacity from the "Mounts and Vehicles" description. Extrapolating from (Str x 15) as the base...would be (Str x 15 x 5), instead of the RAW calculation of (Str x 30 x 2).
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They wanted to use it in terms of general carrying capacity, or in terms of being a draft animal and pulling a vehicle?
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I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I wanted to double check.
Mounts and Vehicles. An animal pulling a carriage, cart, chariot, sled, or wagon can move weight up to five times its base carrying capacity, including the weight of the vehicle. If multiple animals pull the same vehicle, they can add their carrying capacity together. (PHB, pg 155)
My understanding... is no. It would be calculated just like a normal character.
Equine Build. You count as one size larger when determining your carrying capacity and the weight you can push or drag. (GGtR, pg 16)
Push, Drag, or Lift. You can push, drag, or lift a weight in pounds up to twice your carrying capacity (or 30 times your Strength score). While pushing or dragging weight in excess of your carrying capacity, your speed drops to 5 feet. (PHB, pg 176)
EX. (Strength Score x 30 x 2) = Centaur's Push/Drag Carrying Capacity
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I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I wanted to double check.
Mounts and Vehicles. An animal pulling a carriage, cart, chariot, sled, or wagon can move weight up to five times its base carrying capacity, including the weight of the vehicle. If multiple animals pull the same vehicle, they can add their carrying capacity together. (PHB, pg 155)
My understanding... is no. It would be calculated just like a normal character.
Equine Build. You count as one size larger when determining your carrying capacity and the weight you can push or drag. (GGtR, pg 16)
Push, Drag, or Lift. You can push, drag, or lift a weight in pounds up to twice your carrying capacity (or 30 times your Strength score). While pushing or dragging weight in excess of your carrying capacity, your speed drops to 5 feet. (PHB, pg 176)
EX. (Strength Score x 30 x 2) = Centaur's Push/Drag Carrying Capacity
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Just to close the loop, are you looking for a Centaur PC/NPC to be used as a draft animal?
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@NautArch The question was from a player. Basically he wanted to use the 5x carrying capacity from the "Mounts and Vehicles" description. Extrapolating from (Str x 15) as the base...would be (Str x 15 x 5), instead of the RAW calculation of (Str x 30 x 2).
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They wanted to use it in terms of general carrying capacity, or in terms of being a draft animal and pulling a vehicle?
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@NautArch The question was from a player. Basically he wanted to use the 5x carrying capacity from the "Mounts and Vehicles" description. Extrapolating from (Str x 15) as the base...would be (Str x 15 x 5), instead of the RAW calculation of (Str x 30 x 2).
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They wanted to use it in terms of general carrying capacity, or in terms of being a draft animal and pulling a vehicle?
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@NautArch In terms of being a draft animal and pulling a vehicle.
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Just to close the loop, are you looking for a Centaur PC/NPC to be used as a draft animal?
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@NautArch The question was from a player. Basically he wanted to use the 5x carrying capacity from the "Mounts and Vehicles" description. Extrapolating from (Str x 15) as the base...would be (Str x 15 x 5), instead of the RAW calculation of (Str x 30 x 2).
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@NautArch The question was from a player. Basically he wanted to use the 5x carrying capacity from the "Mounts and Vehicles" description. Extrapolating from (Str x 15) as the base...would be (Str x 15 x 5), instead of the RAW calculation of (Str x 30 x 2).
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They wanted to use it in terms of general carrying capacity, or in terms of being a draft animal and pulling a vehicle?
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They wanted to use it in terms of general carrying capacity, or in terms of being a draft animal and pulling a vehicle?
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@NautArch In terms of being a draft animal and pulling a vehicle.
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Yes, but so can a halfling
AFAIK, this is the only use of the word “animal” as opposed to “beast” anywhere in the rules.
Assuming this was a deliberate choice (rather than a mistake) then the authors intended it to mean something different. As such, it should be given a broad reading as encompassing anything in the animal kingdom - beasts humanoids, dragons etc.
This also makes sense from a simulationist sense - people can pull more in a wagon than they can carry. I can push a car - there’s no way I could lift or drag it.
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That's a good point. So for clarification... Looking at the carrying capacity calculations on the "Mounts and Other Animals" chart (PHB, pg 157). It looks like they are using (Str x 15) as the base. If a player (no matter their race) was pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5) - Vehicle Weight), instead of the normal calculation for push/drag/lift without a vehicle (Str x 30)? Using this, a Centaur (or any medium race/creature with a Equine/Powerful Build equivalent), pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5 x 2) - Vehicle Weight)?
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They are not an animal
Going pure RAW, the centaur is a humanoid and not a beast. Now, 'animal' isn't a game term and speaking from a biological point of view, we're all animals - but if we look at most draft animals with their 'beast' type in 5e, then we can separate out the humanoid from the beast when talk animals.
With this in mind, it doesn't seem like it would act as a mount in this way with regard to pulling a vehicle.
Allowing it
Having said that, I don't think it'd be gamebreaking to allow a centaur to pull a vehicle and act as a mount in this way. The primary strength of the centaur is in it's lower body and it does have an Equine Build.
The problem is more of an issue when it comes time for combat. I can't find any rules around the time it takes to hook a draft animal up to a vehicle, but it's not negligible. A DM will need to come up with a houserule for this timing, but it's most likely that the time required is more than a minute - which would be problematic if combat begins while they're acting as a draft animal.
Finally, it's unclear if an intelligent centaur would be okay with being used as a draft animal. That will also come into (role)play.
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That's an interesting question. Time to attach a vehicle to a mount. My gut reaction would be rule it like donning/doffing armor.
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@ToastHater I think that's reasonable, and probably more like heavy armor, but that's kind of up to you as a DM. I have zero knowledge about how long it takes to hook a horse up to a cart :) YOu may also want to hold off on selecting answer. It's entirely up to you, but I generally wait 24 hours just to give folks time and see if something else comes along.
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Gotcha. Longtime lurker, new~ish user. Duly noted, lol.
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I would argue that its more in the half a minute to minute area if the centaur is willing. I looked up a random video on YouTube on how to unhitch a horse and it was slow and with explanations 3 minutes. However the centaur wouldn't need protection against him running away if willing, which a horse needs. So its probably easier than a horse.
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Yes, but so can a halfling
AFAIK, this is the only use of the word “animal” as opposed to “beast” anywhere in the rules.
Assuming this was a deliberate choice (rather than a mistake) then the authors intended it to mean something different. As such, it should be given a broad reading as encompassing anything in the animal kingdom - beasts humanoids, dragons etc.
This also makes sense from a simulationist sense - people can pull more in a wagon than they can carry. I can push a car - there’s no way I could lift or drag it.
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That's a good point. So for clarification... Looking at the carrying capacity calculations on the "Mounts and Other Animals" chart (PHB, pg 157). It looks like they are using (Str x 15) as the base. If a player (no matter their race) was pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5) - Vehicle Weight), instead of the normal calculation for push/drag/lift without a vehicle (Str x 30)? Using this, a Centaur (or any medium race/creature with a Equine/Powerful Build equivalent), pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5 x 2) - Vehicle Weight)?
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Yes, but so can a halfling
AFAIK, this is the only use of the word “animal” as opposed to “beast” anywhere in the rules.
Assuming this was a deliberate choice (rather than a mistake) then the authors intended it to mean something different. As such, it should be given a broad reading as encompassing anything in the animal kingdom - beasts humanoids, dragons etc.
This also makes sense from a simulationist sense - people can pull more in a wagon than they can carry. I can push a car - there’s no way I could lift or drag it.
answered 7 hours ago
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That's a good point. So for clarification... Looking at the carrying capacity calculations on the "Mounts and Other Animals" chart (PHB, pg 157). It looks like they are using (Str x 15) as the base. If a player (no matter their race) was pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5) - Vehicle Weight), instead of the normal calculation for push/drag/lift without a vehicle (Str x 30)? Using this, a Centaur (or any medium race/creature with a Equine/Powerful Build equivalent), pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5 x 2) - Vehicle Weight)?
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@ToastHater That's correct.
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Yes, but so can a halfling
AFAIK, this is the only use of the word “animal” as opposed to “beast” anywhere in the rules.
Assuming this was a deliberate choice (rather than a mistake) then the authors intended it to mean something different. As such, it should be given a broad reading as encompassing anything in the animal kingdom - beasts humanoids, dragons etc.
This also makes sense from a simulationist sense - people can pull more in a wagon than they can carry. I can push a car - there’s no way I could lift or drag it.
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Yes, but so can a halfling
AFAIK, this is the only use of the word “animal” as opposed to “beast” anywhere in the rules.
Assuming this was a deliberate choice (rather than a mistake) then the authors intended it to mean something different. As such, it should be given a broad reading as encompassing anything in the animal kingdom - beasts humanoids, dragons etc.
This also makes sense from a simulationist sense - people can pull more in a wagon than they can carry. I can push a car - there’s no way I could lift or drag it.
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That's a good point. So for clarification... Looking at the carrying capacity calculations on the "Mounts and Other Animals" chart (PHB, pg 157). It looks like they are using (Str x 15) as the base. If a player (no matter their race) was pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5) - Vehicle Weight), instead of the normal calculation for push/drag/lift without a vehicle (Str x 30)? Using this, a Centaur (or any medium race/creature with a Equine/Powerful Build equivalent), pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5 x 2) - Vehicle Weight)?
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That's a good point. So for clarification... Looking at the carrying capacity calculations on the "Mounts and Other Animals" chart (PHB, pg 157). It looks like they are using (Str x 15) as the base. If a player (no matter their race) was pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5) - Vehicle Weight), instead of the normal calculation for push/drag/lift without a vehicle (Str x 30)? Using this, a Centaur (or any medium race/creature with a Equine/Powerful Build equivalent), pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5 x 2) - Vehicle Weight)?
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@ToastHater That's correct.
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That's a good point. So for clarification... Looking at the carrying capacity calculations on the "Mounts and Other Animals" chart (PHB, pg 157). It looks like they are using (Str x 15) as the base. If a player (no matter their race) was pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5) - Vehicle Weight), instead of the normal calculation for push/drag/lift without a vehicle (Str x 30)? Using this, a Centaur (or any medium race/creature with a Equine/Powerful Build equivalent), pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5 x 2) - Vehicle Weight)?
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That's a good point. So for clarification... Looking at the carrying capacity calculations on the "Mounts and Other Animals" chart (PHB, pg 157). It looks like they are using (Str x 15) as the base. If a player (no matter their race) was pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5) - Vehicle Weight), instead of the normal calculation for push/drag/lift without a vehicle (Str x 30)? Using this, a Centaur (or any medium race/creature with a Equine/Powerful Build equivalent), pulling a vehicle it would be calculated as ((Str x 15 x 5 x 2) - Vehicle Weight)?
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@ToastHater That's correct.
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They are not an animal
Going pure RAW, the centaur is a humanoid and not a beast. Now, 'animal' isn't a game term and speaking from a biological point of view, we're all animals - but if we look at most draft animals with their 'beast' type in 5e, then we can separate out the humanoid from the beast when talk animals.
With this in mind, it doesn't seem like it would act as a mount in this way with regard to pulling a vehicle.
Allowing it
Having said that, I don't think it'd be gamebreaking to allow a centaur to pull a vehicle and act as a mount in this way. The primary strength of the centaur is in it's lower body and it does have an Equine Build.
The problem is more of an issue when it comes time for combat. I can't find any rules around the time it takes to hook a draft animal up to a vehicle, but it's not negligible. A DM will need to come up with a houserule for this timing, but it's most likely that the time required is more than a minute - which would be problematic if combat begins while they're acting as a draft animal.
Finally, it's unclear if an intelligent centaur would be okay with being used as a draft animal. That will also come into (role)play.
answered 8 hours ago
NautArchNautArch
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That's an interesting question. Time to attach a vehicle to a mount. My gut reaction would be rule it like donning/doffing armor.
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– ToastHater
8 hours ago
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@ToastHater I think that's reasonable, and probably more like heavy armor, but that's kind of up to you as a DM. I have zero knowledge about how long it takes to hook a horse up to a cart :) YOu may also want to hold off on selecting answer. It's entirely up to you, but I generally wait 24 hours just to give folks time and see if something else comes along.
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– NautArch
7 hours ago
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Gotcha. Longtime lurker, new~ish user. Duly noted, lol.
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– ToastHater
7 hours ago
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I would argue that its more in the half a minute to minute area if the centaur is willing. I looked up a random video on YouTube on how to unhitch a horse and it was slow and with explanations 3 minutes. However the centaur wouldn't need protection against him running away if willing, which a horse needs. So its probably easier than a horse.
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– findusl
7 hours ago
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They are not an animal
Going pure RAW, the centaur is a humanoid and not a beast. Now, 'animal' isn't a game term and speaking from a biological point of view, we're all animals - but if we look at most draft animals with their 'beast' type in 5e, then we can separate out the humanoid from the beast when talk animals.
With this in mind, it doesn't seem like it would act as a mount in this way with regard to pulling a vehicle.
Allowing it
Having said that, I don't think it'd be gamebreaking to allow a centaur to pull a vehicle and act as a mount in this way. The primary strength of the centaur is in it's lower body and it does have an Equine Build.
The problem is more of an issue when it comes time for combat. I can't find any rules around the time it takes to hook a draft animal up to a vehicle, but it's not negligible. A DM will need to come up with a houserule for this timing, but it's most likely that the time required is more than a minute - which would be problematic if combat begins while they're acting as a draft animal.
Finally, it's unclear if an intelligent centaur would be okay with being used as a draft animal. That will also come into (role)play.
answered 8 hours ago
NautArchNautArch
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That's an interesting question. Time to attach a vehicle to a mount. My gut reaction would be rule it like donning/doffing armor.
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– ToastHater
8 hours ago
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@ToastHater I think that's reasonable, and probably more like heavy armor, but that's kind of up to you as a DM. I have zero knowledge about how long it takes to hook a horse up to a cart :) YOu may also want to hold off on selecting answer. It's entirely up to you, but I generally wait 24 hours just to give folks time and see if something else comes along.
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– NautArch
7 hours ago
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Gotcha. Longtime lurker, new~ish user. Duly noted, lol.
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– ToastHater
7 hours ago
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I would argue that its more in the half a minute to minute area if the centaur is willing. I looked up a random video on YouTube on how to unhitch a horse and it was slow and with explanations 3 minutes. However the centaur wouldn't need protection against him running away if willing, which a horse needs. So its probably easier than a horse.
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– findusl
7 hours ago
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They are not an animal
Going pure RAW, the centaur is a humanoid and not a beast. Now, 'animal' isn't a game term and speaking from a biological point of view, we're all animals - but if we look at most draft animals with their 'beast' type in 5e, then we can separate out the humanoid from the beast when talk animals.
With this in mind, it doesn't seem like it would act as a mount in this way with regard to pulling a vehicle.
Allowing it
Having said that, I don't think it'd be gamebreaking to allow a centaur to pull a vehicle and act as a mount in this way. The primary strength of the centaur is in it's lower body and it does have an Equine Build.
The problem is more of an issue when it comes time for combat. I can't find any rules around the time it takes to hook a draft animal up to a vehicle, but it's not negligible. A DM will need to come up with a houserule for this timing, but it's most likely that the time required is more than a minute - which would be problematic if combat begins while they're acting as a draft animal.
Finally, it's unclear if an intelligent centaur would be okay with being used as a draft animal. That will also come into (role)play.
answered 8 hours ago
NautArchNautArch
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They are not an animal
Going pure RAW, the centaur is a humanoid and not a beast. Now, 'animal' isn't a game term and speaking from a biological point of view, we're all animals - but if we look at most draft animals with their 'beast' type in 5e, then we can separate out the humanoid from the beast when talk animals.
With this in mind, it doesn't seem like it would act as a mount in this way with regard to pulling a vehicle.
Allowing it
Having said that, I don't think it'd be gamebreaking to allow a centaur to pull a vehicle and act as a mount in this way. The primary strength of the centaur is in it's lower body and it does have an Equine Build.
The problem is more of an issue when it comes time for combat. I can't find any rules around the time it takes to hook a draft animal up to a vehicle, but it's not negligible. A DM will need to come up with a houserule for this timing, but it's most likely that the time required is more than a minute - which would be problematic if combat begins while they're acting as a draft animal.
Finally, it's unclear if an intelligent centaur would be okay with being used as a draft animal. That will also come into (role)play.
answered 8 hours ago
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answered 8 hours ago
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answered 8 hours ago
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answered 8 hours ago
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That's an interesting question. Time to attach a vehicle to a mount. My gut reaction would be rule it like donning/doffing armor.
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– ToastHater
8 hours ago
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@ToastHater I think that's reasonable, and probably more like heavy armor, but that's kind of up to you as a DM. I have zero knowledge about how long it takes to hook a horse up to a cart :) YOu may also want to hold off on selecting answer. It's entirely up to you, but I generally wait 24 hours just to give folks time and see if something else comes along.
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– NautArch
7 hours ago
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Gotcha. Longtime lurker, new~ish user. Duly noted, lol.
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– ToastHater
7 hours ago
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I would argue that its more in the half a minute to minute area if the centaur is willing. I looked up a random video on YouTube on how to unhitch a horse and it was slow and with explanations 3 minutes. However the centaur wouldn't need protection against him running away if willing, which a horse needs. So its probably easier than a horse.
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– findusl
7 hours ago
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That's an interesting question. Time to attach a vehicle to a mount. My gut reaction would be rule it like donning/doffing armor.
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– ToastHater
8 hours ago
1
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@ToastHater I think that's reasonable, and probably more like heavy armor, but that's kind of up to you as a DM. I have zero knowledge about how long it takes to hook a horse up to a cart :) YOu may also want to hold off on selecting answer. It's entirely up to you, but I generally wait 24 hours just to give folks time and see if something else comes along.
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– NautArch
7 hours ago
1
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Gotcha. Longtime lurker, new~ish user. Duly noted, lol.
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– ToastHater
7 hours ago
1
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I would argue that its more in the half a minute to minute area if the centaur is willing. I looked up a random video on YouTube on how to unhitch a horse and it was slow and with explanations 3 minutes. However the centaur wouldn't need protection against him running away if willing, which a horse needs. So its probably easier than a horse.
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– findusl
7 hours ago
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That's an interesting question. Time to attach a vehicle to a mount. My gut reaction would be rule it like donning/doffing armor.
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– ToastHater
8 hours ago
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That's an interesting question. Time to attach a vehicle to a mount. My gut reaction would be rule it like donning/doffing armor.
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– ToastHater
8 hours ago
1
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@ToastHater I think that's reasonable, and probably more like heavy armor, but that's kind of up to you as a DM. I have zero knowledge about how long it takes to hook a horse up to a cart :) YOu may also want to hold off on selecting answer. It's entirely up to you, but I generally wait 24 hours just to give folks time and see if something else comes along.
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– NautArch
7 hours ago
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@ToastHater I think that's reasonable, and probably more like heavy armor, but that's kind of up to you as a DM. I have zero knowledge about how long it takes to hook a horse up to a cart :) YOu may also want to hold off on selecting answer. It's entirely up to you, but I generally wait 24 hours just to give folks time and see if something else comes along.
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– NautArch
7 hours ago
1
1
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Gotcha. Longtime lurker, new~ish user. Duly noted, lol.
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– ToastHater
7 hours ago
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Gotcha. Longtime lurker, new~ish user. Duly noted, lol.
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– ToastHater
7 hours ago
1
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I would argue that its more in the half a minute to minute area if the centaur is willing. I looked up a random video on YouTube on how to unhitch a horse and it was slow and with explanations 3 minutes. However the centaur wouldn't need protection against him running away if willing, which a horse needs. So its probably easier than a horse.
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– findusl
7 hours ago
$begingroup$
I would argue that its more in the half a minute to minute area if the centaur is willing. I looked up a random video on YouTube on how to unhitch a horse and it was slow and with explanations 3 minutes. However the centaur wouldn't need protection against him running away if willing, which a horse needs. So its probably easier than a horse.
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– findusl
7 hours ago
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Just to close the loop, are you looking for a Centaur PC/NPC to be used as a draft animal?
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– Someone_Evil
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@NautArch The question was from a player. Basically he wanted to use the 5x carrying capacity from the "Mounts and Vehicles" description. Extrapolating from (Str x 15) as the base...would be (Str x 15 x 5), instead of the RAW calculation of (Str x 30 x 2).
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– ToastHater
8 hours ago
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They wanted to use it in terms of general carrying capacity, or in terms of being a draft animal and pulling a vehicle?
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@NautArch In terms of being a draft animal and pulling a vehicle.
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– ToastHater
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