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Some years ago (2014) my friends and I did a trip to New York City, during which we were having meals in many restaurants and giving tips to the waiters, the way it's done in the USA.
However, later on, we visited a popular skyscraper building and we paid for the tickets in cash to the woman who was selling those. When she was taking the money she said something like: "Ok, you're six people, it's $138 in total and I'm going to take $12 in tip." I had paid with $150 so she basically took the whole change.
Even if I didn't realize it at the very beginning, I felt annoyed later on when we were already in the lift. In my country it's not usual to give tips and we do it to show gratitude when the service in some restaurant goes beyond the standard. I understand that in the USA it works in a different way, but I think you must do some kind of extra effort apart from grabbing some tickets for the customers. This situation isn't included in the table given in this answer.
Is this situation common? Or did the woman take advantage of us for being foreigners?
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Some years ago (2014) my friends and I did a trip to New York City, during which we were having meals in many restaurants and giving tips to the waiters, the way it's done in the USA.
However, later on, we visited a popular skyscraper building and we paid for the tickets in cash to the woman who was selling those. When she was taking the money she said something like: "Ok, you're six people, it's $138 in total and I'm going to take $12 in tip." I had paid with $150 so she basically took the whole change.
Even if I didn't realize it at the very beginning, I felt annoyed later on when we were already in the lift. In my country it's not usual to give tips and we do it to show gratitude when the service in some restaurant goes beyond the standard. I understand that in the USA it works in a different way, but I think you must do some kind of extra effort apart from grabbing some tickets for the customers. This situation isn't included in the table given in this answer.
Is this situation common? Or did the woman take advantage of us for being foreigners?
usa tipping
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– ajd
18 hours ago
5
Sure she didn’t say “$15 in tax”?
– rhialto
11 hours ago
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XtremeBiker: well that's entirely different. "Refusing to give you your change" is illegal everywhere I know of, unless you consented. It's not a "tip" either, it's outright theft. It's too late now, but you should have insisted she return your change or you'd call the police on the spot. (and you should have complained to their management later, or given them a nasty online review) You still need to edit the question because noone will understand what "grab a tip" means, and it's not an accurate representation of what happened.
– smci
8 hours ago
2
Out of curiosity, are you sure if the person who sold you these tickets actually worked for the attraction? Or was it possibly just some random scammer selling them on the street for more than face value hoping to take advantage of tourists who don't know better?
– reirab
4 hours ago
2
@reirab The woman was sitting in the other side of the reception desk, with her worker uniform, inside the building, actually.
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Some years ago (2014) my friends and I did a trip to New York City, during which we were having meals in many restaurants and giving tips to the waiters, the way it's done in the USA.
However, later on, we visited a popular skyscraper building and we paid for the tickets in cash to the woman who was selling those. When she was taking the money she said something like: "Ok, you're six people, it's $138 in total and I'm going to take $12 in tip." I had paid with $150 so she basically took the whole change.
Even if I didn't realize it at the very beginning, I felt annoyed later on when we were already in the lift. In my country it's not usual to give tips and we do it to show gratitude when the service in some restaurant goes beyond the standard. I understand that in the USA it works in a different way, but I think you must do some kind of extra effort apart from grabbing some tickets for the customers. This situation isn't included in the table given in this answer.
Is this situation common? Or did the woman take advantage of us for being foreigners?
usa tipping
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Some years ago (2014) my friends and I did a trip to New York City, during which we were having meals in many restaurants and giving tips to the waiters, the way it's done in the USA.
However, later on, we visited a popular skyscraper building and we paid for the tickets in cash to the woman who was selling those. When she was taking the money she said something like: "Ok, you're six people, it's $138 in total and I'm going to take $12 in tip." I had paid with $150 so she basically took the whole change.
Even if I didn't realize it at the very beginning, I felt annoyed later on when we were already in the lift. In my country it's not usual to give tips and we do it to show gratitude when the service in some restaurant goes beyond the standard. I understand that in the USA it works in a different way, but I think you must do some kind of extra effort apart from grabbing some tickets for the customers. This situation isn't included in the table given in this answer.
Is this situation common? Or did the woman take advantage of us for being foreigners?
usa tipping
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– ajd
18 hours ago
5
Sure she didn’t say “$15 in tax”?
– rhialto
11 hours ago
6
XtremeBiker: well that's entirely different. "Refusing to give you your change" is illegal everywhere I know of, unless you consented. It's not a "tip" either, it's outright theft. It's too late now, but you should have insisted she return your change or you'd call the police on the spot. (and you should have complained to their management later, or given them a nasty online review) You still need to edit the question because noone will understand what "grab a tip" means, and it's not an accurate representation of what happened.
– smci
8 hours ago
2
Out of curiosity, are you sure if the person who sold you these tickets actually worked for the attraction? Or was it possibly just some random scammer selling them on the street for more than face value hoping to take advantage of tourists who don't know better?
– reirab
4 hours ago
2
@reirab The woman was sitting in the other side of the reception desk, with her worker uniform, inside the building, actually.
– Xtreme Biker
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Welcome to travel.stackexchange!
– ajd
18 hours ago
5
Sure she didn’t say “$15 in tax”?
– rhialto
11 hours ago
6
XtremeBiker: well that's entirely different. "Refusing to give you your change" is illegal everywhere I know of, unless you consented. It's not a "tip" either, it's outright theft. It's too late now, but you should have insisted she return your change or you'd call the police on the spot. (and you should have complained to their management later, or given them a nasty online review) You still need to edit the question because noone will understand what "grab a tip" means, and it's not an accurate representation of what happened.
– smci
8 hours ago
2
Out of curiosity, are you sure if the person who sold you these tickets actually worked for the attraction? Or was it possibly just some random scammer selling them on the street for more than face value hoping to take advantage of tourists who don't know better?
– reirab
4 hours ago
2
@reirab The woman was sitting in the other side of the reception desk, with her worker uniform, inside the building, actually.
– Xtreme Biker
4 hours ago
1
1
Welcome to travel.stackexchange!
– ajd
18 hours ago
Welcome to travel.stackexchange!
– ajd
18 hours ago
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5
Sure she didn’t say “$15 in tax”?
– rhialto
11 hours ago
Sure she didn’t say “$15 in tax”?
– rhialto
11 hours ago
6
6
XtremeBiker: well that's entirely different. "Refusing to give you your change" is illegal everywhere I know of, unless you consented. It's not a "tip" either, it's outright theft. It's too late now, but you should have insisted she return your change or you'd call the police on the spot. (and you should have complained to their management later, or given them a nasty online review) You still need to edit the question because noone will understand what "grab a tip" means, and it's not an accurate representation of what happened.
– smci
8 hours ago
XtremeBiker: well that's entirely different. "Refusing to give you your change" is illegal everywhere I know of, unless you consented. It's not a "tip" either, it's outright theft. It's too late now, but you should have insisted she return your change or you'd call the police on the spot. (and you should have complained to their management later, or given them a nasty online review) You still need to edit the question because noone will understand what "grab a tip" means, and it's not an accurate representation of what happened.
– smci
8 hours ago
2
2
Out of curiosity, are you sure if the person who sold you these tickets actually worked for the attraction? Or was it possibly just some random scammer selling them on the street for more than face value hoping to take advantage of tourists who don't know better?
– reirab
4 hours ago
Out of curiosity, are you sure if the person who sold you these tickets actually worked for the attraction? Or was it possibly just some random scammer selling them on the street for more than face value hoping to take advantage of tourists who don't know better?
– reirab
4 hours ago
2
2
@reirab The woman was sitting in the other side of the reception desk, with her worker uniform, inside the building, actually.
– Xtreme Biker
4 hours ago
@reirab The woman was sitting in the other side of the reception desk, with her worker uniform, inside the building, actually.
– Xtreme Biker
4 hours ago
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You were taken advantage of.
Tipping is very prevalent in the US, but it is extremely unusual to tip someone who sells you tickets to a tourist attraction. I've never done it or heard of it. Even if you were being given a guided tour, where tipping the guide is normal, its usual to do it after the tour and after you have decided how good it was. The cashier took advantage of your lack of knowledge of what is proper.
To expand the question a bit, for any service worker to decide what tip they want and take it is extremely bad manners, and stops short of theft only if you are given an opportunity to say no. The only exception is when a 'service charge' is advertised as part of the price.
If you are in this situation again with any kind of server who says "I'm going to take this amount of tip" I recommend saying "No you aren't" and demanding the correct change. Tell them you get to decide what the tip is, unless they can show you the rules that say a tip is included in the price. A ticket seller should get zero tip, and anyone who tries to take a tip on their own initiative should get zero tip. Tips are a reward for good service, and trying to take money from you is not good service.
While five years later is too late to do anything, had you realised a few days later you might have considered contacting the place you visited and telling them about your experience. They will also probably be unhappy with their cashier, and you might get your money back.
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You were taken advantage of.
Tipping is very prevalent in the US, but it is extremely unusual to tip someone who sells you tickets to a tourist attraction. I've never done it or heard of it. Even if you were being given a guided tour, where tipping the guide is normal, its usual to do it after the tour and after you have decided how good it was. The cashier took advantage of your lack of knowledge of what is proper.
To expand the question a bit, for any service worker to decide what tip they want and take it is extremely bad manners, and stops short of theft only if you are given an opportunity to say no. The only exception is when a 'service charge' is advertised as part of the price.
If you are in this situation again with any kind of server who says "I'm going to take this amount of tip" I recommend saying "No you aren't" and demanding the correct change. Tell them you get to decide what the tip is, unless they can show you the rules that say a tip is included in the price. A ticket seller should get zero tip, and anyone who tries to take a tip on their own initiative should get zero tip. Tips are a reward for good service, and trying to take money from you is not good service.
While five years later is too late to do anything, had you realised a few days later you might have considered contacting the place you visited and telling them about your experience. They will also probably be unhappy with their cashier, and you might get your money back.
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You were taken advantage of.
Tipping is very prevalent in the US, but it is extremely unusual to tip someone who sells you tickets to a tourist attraction. I've never done it or heard of it. Even if you were being given a guided tour, where tipping the guide is normal, its usual to do it after the tour and after you have decided how good it was. The cashier took advantage of your lack of knowledge of what is proper.
To expand the question a bit, for any service worker to decide what tip they want and take it is extremely bad manners, and stops short of theft only if you are given an opportunity to say no. The only exception is when a 'service charge' is advertised as part of the price.
If you are in this situation again with any kind of server who says "I'm going to take this amount of tip" I recommend saying "No you aren't" and demanding the correct change. Tell them you get to decide what the tip is, unless they can show you the rules that say a tip is included in the price. A ticket seller should get zero tip, and anyone who tries to take a tip on their own initiative should get zero tip. Tips are a reward for good service, and trying to take money from you is not good service.
While five years later is too late to do anything, had you realised a few days later you might have considered contacting the place you visited and telling them about your experience. They will also probably be unhappy with their cashier, and you might get your money back.
answered 2 days ago
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You were taken advantage of.
Tipping is very prevalent in the US, but it is extremely unusual to tip someone who sells you tickets to a tourist attraction. I've never done it or heard of it. Even if you were being given a guided tour, where tipping the guide is normal, its usual to do it after the tour and after you have decided how good it was. The cashier took advantage of your lack of knowledge of what is proper.
To expand the question a bit, for any service worker to decide what tip they want and take it is extremely bad manners, and stops short of theft only if you are given an opportunity to say no. The only exception is when a 'service charge' is advertised as part of the price.
If you are in this situation again with any kind of server who says "I'm going to take this amount of tip" I recommend saying "No you aren't" and demanding the correct change. Tell them you get to decide what the tip is, unless they can show you the rules that say a tip is included in the price. A ticket seller should get zero tip, and anyone who tries to take a tip on their own initiative should get zero tip. Tips are a reward for good service, and trying to take money from you is not good service.
While five years later is too late to do anything, had you realised a few days later you might have considered contacting the place you visited and telling them about your experience. They will also probably be unhappy with their cashier, and you might get your money back.
answered 2 days ago
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You were taken advantage of.
Tipping is very prevalent in the US, but it is extremely unusual to tip someone who sells you tickets to a tourist attraction. I've never done it or heard of it. Even if you were being given a guided tour, where tipping the guide is normal, its usual to do it after the tour and after you have decided how good it was. The cashier took advantage of your lack of knowledge of what is proper.
To expand the question a bit, for any service worker to decide what tip they want and take it is extremely bad manners, and stops short of theft only if you are given an opportunity to say no. The only exception is when a 'service charge' is advertised as part of the price.
If you are in this situation again with any kind of server who says "I'm going to take this amount of tip" I recommend saying "No you aren't" and demanding the correct change. Tell them you get to decide what the tip is, unless they can show you the rules that say a tip is included in the price. A ticket seller should get zero tip, and anyone who tries to take a tip on their own initiative should get zero tip. Tips are a reward for good service, and trying to take money from you is not good service.
While five years later is too late to do anything, had you realised a few days later you might have considered contacting the place you visited and telling them about your experience. They will also probably be unhappy with their cashier, and you might get your money back.
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Sure she didn’t say “$15 in tax”?
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11 hours ago
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XtremeBiker: well that's entirely different. "Refusing to give you your change" is illegal everywhere I know of, unless you consented. It's not a "tip" either, it's outright theft. It's too late now, but you should have insisted she return your change or you'd call the police on the spot. (and you should have complained to their management later, or given them a nasty online review) You still need to edit the question because noone will understand what "grab a tip" means, and it's not an accurate representation of what happened.
– smci
8 hours ago
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Out of curiosity, are you sure if the person who sold you these tickets actually worked for the attraction? Or was it possibly just some random scammer selling them on the street for more than face value hoping to take advantage of tourists who don't know better?
– reirab
4 hours ago
2
@reirab The woman was sitting in the other side of the reception desk, with her worker uniform, inside the building, actually.
– Xtreme Biker
4 hours ago