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Ransomware attacks could use zero-day exploits, but often an attacker will just fool a gullible user into running an executable by downloading and clicking.
Suppose we have a naive user and want to restrict them to the normal path. Is there any way to restrict them from creating a file with executable privilege?
Or, more generally, is there any way to build an access control list and define that this user may only execute files in this list?
permissions security executable restricted-access
add a comment |
Ransomware attacks could use zero-day exploits, but often an attacker will just fool a gullible user into running an executable by downloading and clicking.
Suppose we have a naive user and want to restrict them to the normal path. Is there any way to restrict them from creating a file with executable privilege?
Or, more generally, is there any way to build an access control list and define that this user may only execute files in this list?
permissions security executable restricted-access
4
To disable execution in this manner would prohibit users from being able to do anything on system. There is no mechanism for this in-built to the system or even with third party software that I am aware of to do this type of security lockdown
– Thomas Ward♦
14 hours ago
not answering but hint what you can do: add noexec on user writable mounts. wont prevent scripts but actual binary execution.
– Sampo Sarrala
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Ransomware attacks could use zero-day exploits, but often an attacker will just fool a gullible user into running an executable by downloading and clicking.
Suppose we have a naive user and want to restrict them to the normal path. Is there any way to restrict them from creating a file with executable privilege?
Or, more generally, is there any way to build an access control list and define that this user may only execute files in this list?
permissions security executable restricted-access
Ransomware attacks could use zero-day exploits, but often an attacker will just fool a gullible user into running an executable by downloading and clicking.
Suppose we have a naive user and want to restrict them to the normal path. Is there any way to restrict them from creating a file with executable privilege?
Or, more generally, is there any way to build an access control list and define that this user may only execute files in this list?
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permissions security executable restricted-access
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To disable execution in this manner would prohibit users from being able to do anything on system. There is no mechanism for this in-built to the system or even with third party software that I am aware of to do this type of security lockdown
– Thomas Ward♦
14 hours ago
not answering but hint what you can do: add noexec on user writable mounts. wont prevent scripts but actual binary execution.
– Sampo Sarrala
1 hour ago
add a comment |
4
To disable execution in this manner would prohibit users from being able to do anything on system. There is no mechanism for this in-built to the system or even with third party software that I am aware of to do this type of security lockdown
– Thomas Ward♦
14 hours ago
not answering but hint what you can do: add noexec on user writable mounts. wont prevent scripts but actual binary execution.
– Sampo Sarrala
1 hour ago
4
4
To disable execution in this manner would prohibit users from being able to do anything on system. There is no mechanism for this in-built to the system or even with third party software that I am aware of to do this type of security lockdown
– Thomas Ward♦
14 hours ago
To disable execution in this manner would prohibit users from being able to do anything on system. There is no mechanism for this in-built to the system or even with third party software that I am aware of to do this type of security lockdown
– Thomas Ward♦
14 hours ago
not answering but hint what you can do: add noexec on user writable mounts. wont prevent scripts but actual binary execution.
– Sampo Sarrala
1 hour ago
not answering but hint what you can do: add noexec on user writable mounts. wont prevent scripts but actual binary execution.
– Sampo Sarrala
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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The specific attack you've expressed concern about is:
often an attacker will just fool a gullible user into running an executable by downloading and clicking.
At least in the common case where the file is downloaded in a web browser, this should already be prevented in Ubuntu by the browser's adherence to the Execute-Permission Bit Required policy. The most directly relevant parts of that policy are:
Applications, including desktops and shells, must not run executable code from files when they are both:
- lacking the executable bit
- located in a user's home directory or temporary directory.
- Files downloaded from a web browser, mail client, etc. must never be saved as executable.
So if a user is told to download a program in a web browser, does so, and attempts to run the file by double-clicking on it, it won't run. This applies even if the file downloaded is a shell script or even a .desktop file. (If you've ever wondered why .desktop files in your home directory have to be marked executable even though they're not really programs, that's why.)
It is possible for users to alter this behavior through configuration changes. Most will not, and while those who do probably shouldn't, that's not really what you have to worry about. The bigger concern is the more complex attack that I think you're already worried about, in which a malicious person (or bot) instructs the user to download a specific file, mark it executable themselves (through their file browser or with chmod
), and then run it.
Unfortunately, restricting a user's ability to set the execute bit on a file or to execute files other than those on some whitelist wouldn't noticeably mitigate the problem. Some attacks will already work, and those that don't could be trivially modified so that they do. The fundamental issue is that the effect of running a file can be achieved even if the file doesn't have executable permissions.
This is best illustrated by example. Suppose evil
is a file in the current directory that, if given executable permissions (chmod +x evil
) and run (./evil
), would do something evil. Depending on what kind of program it is, the same effect may be achieved by one of the following:
. ./evil
orsource ./evil
runs the commands inevil.sh
in the currently running shell.bash ./evil
runsevil
inbash
.python3 evil
runsevil
inpython3
.perl evil
runsevil
inperl
.- ...and in general,
interpreter evil
runsevil
in the interpreterinterpreter
. - On most systems,
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 ./evil
runs the binary executableevil
.
None of those, not even the last one, require that the file have executable permissions or even that the user be able to give the file executable permissions.
But the malicious instructions don't even have to be that complicated. Consider this non-malicious command, which is one of the officially recommended ways to install or update NVM:
wget -qO- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nvm-sh/nvm/v0.34.0/install.sh | bash
The reason that's not malicious is that NVM isn't malware, but if the URL were instead to someone's script that does evil when run, that command would download and run the script. At no point would any file need to be given executable permissions. Downloading and running the code contained in a malicious file with a single command like this is, I believe, a pretty common action that attackers trick users into taking.
You might think of trying to restrict what interpreters are available for the users to run. But there isn't really a way to do this that doesn't substantially impact the ordinary tasks you presumably want users to be able to do. If you're setting up an extremely restricted environment on which nearly everything a user would think of to do on a computer is disallowed, like a kiosk that only runs a couple programs, then this might provide some measure of meaningful protection. But it doesn't sound like that's your use case.
So the approximate answer to your question is, "No." The fuller answer is that you could probably manage to prevent users from executing any files except those that you supply on a whitelist. But that's in the strict, technical sense of "execute," which is not needed to achieve the full effect of running most programs or scripts. To prevent that, you could try to make the whitelist very small, so it didn't list any interpreters except those that could be highly restricted. But even if you managed that, users couldn't do much, and if you made it so small they couldn't hurt themselves, they probably couldn't do anything. (See Thomas Ward's comment.)
If your users can hurt themselves, they can be fooled into hurting themselves.
You may be able to restrict specific programs from being used or otherwise behaving in ways that are likely to be harmful, and if you're looking at specific patterns ransomware tends to follow, you may be able to prevent some specific common cases. (See AppArmor.) That might provide some value. But it won't give you anything close to the comprehensive solution you're hoping for.
Whatever technical measures (if any) you end up taking, your best bet is to educate users. This includes telling them not to run commands they don't understand and not to use downloaded files in situations where they wouldn't be able to explain why it's reasonably safe to do so. But it also includes things like making backups, so that if something does go wrong (due to malware or otherwise), the harm done will be as little as possible.
2
Awesome and upvoted.
– WinEunuuchs2Unix
12 hours ago
1
Perhaps the non-technical measures need to include having contact info for someone that can sanity check something they want to do. Any time they're not sure, call or message and ask. That might remove the temptation to guess.
– Peter Cordes
1 hour ago
add a comment |
From: In Linux, how can I prevent users from executing chown, chgrp or chmod?
chown
: Already requires root.
chgrp
: Users can only change into groups they themselves belong to.
chmod
: Probably impossible to restrict - unless you also block all
programming language compilers/interpreters and disable any remote
filesystem access (including SFTP).
(It might be possible to block the
chmod()
syscall with something
like AppArmor (if it can block syscalls at all), but it would break a
whole lot of programs.)
It sounds like you've come up with a great feature request for Firefox and Chrome.
add a comment |
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The specific attack you've expressed concern about is:
often an attacker will just fool a gullible user into running an executable by downloading and clicking.
At least in the common case where the file is downloaded in a web browser, this should already be prevented in Ubuntu by the browser's adherence to the Execute-Permission Bit Required policy. The most directly relevant parts of that policy are:
Applications, including desktops and shells, must not run executable code from files when they are both:
- lacking the executable bit
- located in a user's home directory or temporary directory.
- Files downloaded from a web browser, mail client, etc. must never be saved as executable.
So if a user is told to download a program in a web browser, does so, and attempts to run the file by double-clicking on it, it won't run. This applies even if the file downloaded is a shell script or even a .desktop file. (If you've ever wondered why .desktop files in your home directory have to be marked executable even though they're not really programs, that's why.)
It is possible for users to alter this behavior through configuration changes. Most will not, and while those who do probably shouldn't, that's not really what you have to worry about. The bigger concern is the more complex attack that I think you're already worried about, in which a malicious person (or bot) instructs the user to download a specific file, mark it executable themselves (through their file browser or with chmod
), and then run it.
Unfortunately, restricting a user's ability to set the execute bit on a file or to execute files other than those on some whitelist wouldn't noticeably mitigate the problem. Some attacks will already work, and those that don't could be trivially modified so that they do. The fundamental issue is that the effect of running a file can be achieved even if the file doesn't have executable permissions.
This is best illustrated by example. Suppose evil
is a file in the current directory that, if given executable permissions (chmod +x evil
) and run (./evil
), would do something evil. Depending on what kind of program it is, the same effect may be achieved by one of the following:
. ./evil
orsource ./evil
runs the commands inevil.sh
in the currently running shell.bash ./evil
runsevil
inbash
.python3 evil
runsevil
inpython3
.perl evil
runsevil
inperl
.- ...and in general,
interpreter evil
runsevil
in the interpreterinterpreter
. - On most systems,
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 ./evil
runs the binary executableevil
.
None of those, not even the last one, require that the file have executable permissions or even that the user be able to give the file executable permissions.
But the malicious instructions don't even have to be that complicated. Consider this non-malicious command, which is one of the officially recommended ways to install or update NVM:
wget -qO- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nvm-sh/nvm/v0.34.0/install.sh | bash
The reason that's not malicious is that NVM isn't malware, but if the URL were instead to someone's script that does evil when run, that command would download and run the script. At no point would any file need to be given executable permissions. Downloading and running the code contained in a malicious file with a single command like this is, I believe, a pretty common action that attackers trick users into taking.
You might think of trying to restrict what interpreters are available for the users to run. But there isn't really a way to do this that doesn't substantially impact the ordinary tasks you presumably want users to be able to do. If you're setting up an extremely restricted environment on which nearly everything a user would think of to do on a computer is disallowed, like a kiosk that only runs a couple programs, then this might provide some measure of meaningful protection. But it doesn't sound like that's your use case.
So the approximate answer to your question is, "No." The fuller answer is that you could probably manage to prevent users from executing any files except those that you supply on a whitelist. But that's in the strict, technical sense of "execute," which is not needed to achieve the full effect of running most programs or scripts. To prevent that, you could try to make the whitelist very small, so it didn't list any interpreters except those that could be highly restricted. But even if you managed that, users couldn't do much, and if you made it so small they couldn't hurt themselves, they probably couldn't do anything. (See Thomas Ward's comment.)
If your users can hurt themselves, they can be fooled into hurting themselves.
You may be able to restrict specific programs from being used or otherwise behaving in ways that are likely to be harmful, and if you're looking at specific patterns ransomware tends to follow, you may be able to prevent some specific common cases. (See AppArmor.) That might provide some value. But it won't give you anything close to the comprehensive solution you're hoping for.
Whatever technical measures (if any) you end up taking, your best bet is to educate users. This includes telling them not to run commands they don't understand and not to use downloaded files in situations where they wouldn't be able to explain why it's reasonably safe to do so. But it also includes things like making backups, so that if something does go wrong (due to malware or otherwise), the harm done will be as little as possible.
2
Awesome and upvoted.
– WinEunuuchs2Unix
12 hours ago
1
Perhaps the non-technical measures need to include having contact info for someone that can sanity check something they want to do. Any time they're not sure, call or message and ask. That might remove the temptation to guess.
– Peter Cordes
1 hour ago
add a comment |
The specific attack you've expressed concern about is:
often an attacker will just fool a gullible user into running an executable by downloading and clicking.
At least in the common case where the file is downloaded in a web browser, this should already be prevented in Ubuntu by the browser's adherence to the Execute-Permission Bit Required policy. The most directly relevant parts of that policy are:
Applications, including desktops and shells, must not run executable code from files when they are both:
- lacking the executable bit
- located in a user's home directory or temporary directory.
- Files downloaded from a web browser, mail client, etc. must never be saved as executable.
So if a user is told to download a program in a web browser, does so, and attempts to run the file by double-clicking on it, it won't run. This applies even if the file downloaded is a shell script or even a .desktop file. (If you've ever wondered why .desktop files in your home directory have to be marked executable even though they're not really programs, that's why.)
It is possible for users to alter this behavior through configuration changes. Most will not, and while those who do probably shouldn't, that's not really what you have to worry about. The bigger concern is the more complex attack that I think you're already worried about, in which a malicious person (or bot) instructs the user to download a specific file, mark it executable themselves (through their file browser or with chmod
), and then run it.
Unfortunately, restricting a user's ability to set the execute bit on a file or to execute files other than those on some whitelist wouldn't noticeably mitigate the problem. Some attacks will already work, and those that don't could be trivially modified so that they do. The fundamental issue is that the effect of running a file can be achieved even if the file doesn't have executable permissions.
This is best illustrated by example. Suppose evil
is a file in the current directory that, if given executable permissions (chmod +x evil
) and run (./evil
), would do something evil. Depending on what kind of program it is, the same effect may be achieved by one of the following:
. ./evil
orsource ./evil
runs the commands inevil.sh
in the currently running shell.bash ./evil
runsevil
inbash
.python3 evil
runsevil
inpython3
.perl evil
runsevil
inperl
.- ...and in general,
interpreter evil
runsevil
in the interpreterinterpreter
. - On most systems,
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 ./evil
runs the binary executableevil
.
None of those, not even the last one, require that the file have executable permissions or even that the user be able to give the file executable permissions.
But the malicious instructions don't even have to be that complicated. Consider this non-malicious command, which is one of the officially recommended ways to install or update NVM:
wget -qO- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nvm-sh/nvm/v0.34.0/install.sh | bash
The reason that's not malicious is that NVM isn't malware, but if the URL were instead to someone's script that does evil when run, that command would download and run the script. At no point would any file need to be given executable permissions. Downloading and running the code contained in a malicious file with a single command like this is, I believe, a pretty common action that attackers trick users into taking.
You might think of trying to restrict what interpreters are available for the users to run. But there isn't really a way to do this that doesn't substantially impact the ordinary tasks you presumably want users to be able to do. If you're setting up an extremely restricted environment on which nearly everything a user would think of to do on a computer is disallowed, like a kiosk that only runs a couple programs, then this might provide some measure of meaningful protection. But it doesn't sound like that's your use case.
So the approximate answer to your question is, "No." The fuller answer is that you could probably manage to prevent users from executing any files except those that you supply on a whitelist. But that's in the strict, technical sense of "execute," which is not needed to achieve the full effect of running most programs or scripts. To prevent that, you could try to make the whitelist very small, so it didn't list any interpreters except those that could be highly restricted. But even if you managed that, users couldn't do much, and if you made it so small they couldn't hurt themselves, they probably couldn't do anything. (See Thomas Ward's comment.)
If your users can hurt themselves, they can be fooled into hurting themselves.
You may be able to restrict specific programs from being used or otherwise behaving in ways that are likely to be harmful, and if you're looking at specific patterns ransomware tends to follow, you may be able to prevent some specific common cases. (See AppArmor.) That might provide some value. But it won't give you anything close to the comprehensive solution you're hoping for.
Whatever technical measures (if any) you end up taking, your best bet is to educate users. This includes telling them not to run commands they don't understand and not to use downloaded files in situations where they wouldn't be able to explain why it's reasonably safe to do so. But it also includes things like making backups, so that if something does go wrong (due to malware or otherwise), the harm done will be as little as possible.
2
Awesome and upvoted.
– WinEunuuchs2Unix
12 hours ago
1
Perhaps the non-technical measures need to include having contact info for someone that can sanity check something they want to do. Any time they're not sure, call or message and ask. That might remove the temptation to guess.
– Peter Cordes
1 hour ago
add a comment |
The specific attack you've expressed concern about is:
often an attacker will just fool a gullible user into running an executable by downloading and clicking.
At least in the common case where the file is downloaded in a web browser, this should already be prevented in Ubuntu by the browser's adherence to the Execute-Permission Bit Required policy. The most directly relevant parts of that policy are:
Applications, including desktops and shells, must not run executable code from files when they are both:
- lacking the executable bit
- located in a user's home directory or temporary directory.
- Files downloaded from a web browser, mail client, etc. must never be saved as executable.
So if a user is told to download a program in a web browser, does so, and attempts to run the file by double-clicking on it, it won't run. This applies even if the file downloaded is a shell script or even a .desktop file. (If you've ever wondered why .desktop files in your home directory have to be marked executable even though they're not really programs, that's why.)
It is possible for users to alter this behavior through configuration changes. Most will not, and while those who do probably shouldn't, that's not really what you have to worry about. The bigger concern is the more complex attack that I think you're already worried about, in which a malicious person (or bot) instructs the user to download a specific file, mark it executable themselves (through their file browser or with chmod
), and then run it.
Unfortunately, restricting a user's ability to set the execute bit on a file or to execute files other than those on some whitelist wouldn't noticeably mitigate the problem. Some attacks will already work, and those that don't could be trivially modified so that they do. The fundamental issue is that the effect of running a file can be achieved even if the file doesn't have executable permissions.
This is best illustrated by example. Suppose evil
is a file in the current directory that, if given executable permissions (chmod +x evil
) and run (./evil
), would do something evil. Depending on what kind of program it is, the same effect may be achieved by one of the following:
. ./evil
orsource ./evil
runs the commands inevil.sh
in the currently running shell.bash ./evil
runsevil
inbash
.python3 evil
runsevil
inpython3
.perl evil
runsevil
inperl
.- ...and in general,
interpreter evil
runsevil
in the interpreterinterpreter
. - On most systems,
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 ./evil
runs the binary executableevil
.
None of those, not even the last one, require that the file have executable permissions or even that the user be able to give the file executable permissions.
But the malicious instructions don't even have to be that complicated. Consider this non-malicious command, which is one of the officially recommended ways to install or update NVM:
wget -qO- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nvm-sh/nvm/v0.34.0/install.sh | bash
The reason that's not malicious is that NVM isn't malware, but if the URL were instead to someone's script that does evil when run, that command would download and run the script. At no point would any file need to be given executable permissions. Downloading and running the code contained in a malicious file with a single command like this is, I believe, a pretty common action that attackers trick users into taking.
You might think of trying to restrict what interpreters are available for the users to run. But there isn't really a way to do this that doesn't substantially impact the ordinary tasks you presumably want users to be able to do. If you're setting up an extremely restricted environment on which nearly everything a user would think of to do on a computer is disallowed, like a kiosk that only runs a couple programs, then this might provide some measure of meaningful protection. But it doesn't sound like that's your use case.
So the approximate answer to your question is, "No." The fuller answer is that you could probably manage to prevent users from executing any files except those that you supply on a whitelist. But that's in the strict, technical sense of "execute," which is not needed to achieve the full effect of running most programs or scripts. To prevent that, you could try to make the whitelist very small, so it didn't list any interpreters except those that could be highly restricted. But even if you managed that, users couldn't do much, and if you made it so small they couldn't hurt themselves, they probably couldn't do anything. (See Thomas Ward's comment.)
If your users can hurt themselves, they can be fooled into hurting themselves.
You may be able to restrict specific programs from being used or otherwise behaving in ways that are likely to be harmful, and if you're looking at specific patterns ransomware tends to follow, you may be able to prevent some specific common cases. (See AppArmor.) That might provide some value. But it won't give you anything close to the comprehensive solution you're hoping for.
Whatever technical measures (if any) you end up taking, your best bet is to educate users. This includes telling them not to run commands they don't understand and not to use downloaded files in situations where they wouldn't be able to explain why it's reasonably safe to do so. But it also includes things like making backups, so that if something does go wrong (due to malware or otherwise), the harm done will be as little as possible.
The specific attack you've expressed concern about is:
often an attacker will just fool a gullible user into running an executable by downloading and clicking.
At least in the common case where the file is downloaded in a web browser, this should already be prevented in Ubuntu by the browser's adherence to the Execute-Permission Bit Required policy. The most directly relevant parts of that policy are:
Applications, including desktops and shells, must not run executable code from files when they are both:
- lacking the executable bit
- located in a user's home directory or temporary directory.
- Files downloaded from a web browser, mail client, etc. must never be saved as executable.
So if a user is told to download a program in a web browser, does so, and attempts to run the file by double-clicking on it, it won't run. This applies even if the file downloaded is a shell script or even a .desktop file. (If you've ever wondered why .desktop files in your home directory have to be marked executable even though they're not really programs, that's why.)
It is possible for users to alter this behavior through configuration changes. Most will not, and while those who do probably shouldn't, that's not really what you have to worry about. The bigger concern is the more complex attack that I think you're already worried about, in which a malicious person (or bot) instructs the user to download a specific file, mark it executable themselves (through their file browser or with chmod
), and then run it.
Unfortunately, restricting a user's ability to set the execute bit on a file or to execute files other than those on some whitelist wouldn't noticeably mitigate the problem. Some attacks will already work, and those that don't could be trivially modified so that they do. The fundamental issue is that the effect of running a file can be achieved even if the file doesn't have executable permissions.
This is best illustrated by example. Suppose evil
is a file in the current directory that, if given executable permissions (chmod +x evil
) and run (./evil
), would do something evil. Depending on what kind of program it is, the same effect may be achieved by one of the following:
. ./evil
orsource ./evil
runs the commands inevil.sh
in the currently running shell.bash ./evil
runsevil
inbash
.python3 evil
runsevil
inpython3
.perl evil
runsevil
inperl
.- ...and in general,
interpreter evil
runsevil
in the interpreterinterpreter
. - On most systems,
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 ./evil
runs the binary executableevil
.
None of those, not even the last one, require that the file have executable permissions or even that the user be able to give the file executable permissions.
But the malicious instructions don't even have to be that complicated. Consider this non-malicious command, which is one of the officially recommended ways to install or update NVM:
wget -qO- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nvm-sh/nvm/v0.34.0/install.sh | bash
The reason that's not malicious is that NVM isn't malware, but if the URL were instead to someone's script that does evil when run, that command would download and run the script. At no point would any file need to be given executable permissions. Downloading and running the code contained in a malicious file with a single command like this is, I believe, a pretty common action that attackers trick users into taking.
You might think of trying to restrict what interpreters are available for the users to run. But there isn't really a way to do this that doesn't substantially impact the ordinary tasks you presumably want users to be able to do. If you're setting up an extremely restricted environment on which nearly everything a user would think of to do on a computer is disallowed, like a kiosk that only runs a couple programs, then this might provide some measure of meaningful protection. But it doesn't sound like that's your use case.
So the approximate answer to your question is, "No." The fuller answer is that you could probably manage to prevent users from executing any files except those that you supply on a whitelist. But that's in the strict, technical sense of "execute," which is not needed to achieve the full effect of running most programs or scripts. To prevent that, you could try to make the whitelist very small, so it didn't list any interpreters except those that could be highly restricted. But even if you managed that, users couldn't do much, and if you made it so small they couldn't hurt themselves, they probably couldn't do anything. (See Thomas Ward's comment.)
If your users can hurt themselves, they can be fooled into hurting themselves.
You may be able to restrict specific programs from being used or otherwise behaving in ways that are likely to be harmful, and if you're looking at specific patterns ransomware tends to follow, you may be able to prevent some specific common cases. (See AppArmor.) That might provide some value. But it won't give you anything close to the comprehensive solution you're hoping for.
Whatever technical measures (if any) you end up taking, your best bet is to educate users. This includes telling them not to run commands they don't understand and not to use downloaded files in situations where they wouldn't be able to explain why it's reasonably safe to do so. But it also includes things like making backups, so that if something does go wrong (due to malware or otherwise), the harm done will be as little as possible.
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Awesome and upvoted.
– WinEunuuchs2Unix
12 hours ago
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Perhaps the non-technical measures need to include having contact info for someone that can sanity check something they want to do. Any time they're not sure, call or message and ask. That might remove the temptation to guess.
– Peter Cordes
1 hour ago
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Awesome and upvoted.
– WinEunuuchs2Unix
12 hours ago
1
Perhaps the non-technical measures need to include having contact info for someone that can sanity check something they want to do. Any time they're not sure, call or message and ask. That might remove the temptation to guess.
– Peter Cordes
1 hour ago
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2
Awesome and upvoted.
– WinEunuuchs2Unix
12 hours ago
Awesome and upvoted.
– WinEunuuchs2Unix
12 hours ago
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1
Perhaps the non-technical measures need to include having contact info for someone that can sanity check something they want to do. Any time they're not sure, call or message and ask. That might remove the temptation to guess.
– Peter Cordes
1 hour ago
Perhaps the non-technical measures need to include having contact info for someone that can sanity check something they want to do. Any time they're not sure, call or message and ask. That might remove the temptation to guess.
– Peter Cordes
1 hour ago
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From: In Linux, how can I prevent users from executing chown, chgrp or chmod?
chown
: Already requires root.
chgrp
: Users can only change into groups they themselves belong to.
chmod
: Probably impossible to restrict - unless you also block all
programming language compilers/interpreters and disable any remote
filesystem access (including SFTP).
(It might be possible to block the
chmod()
syscall with something
like AppArmor (if it can block syscalls at all), but it would break a
whole lot of programs.)
It sounds like you've come up with a great feature request for Firefox and Chrome.
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From: In Linux, how can I prevent users from executing chown, chgrp or chmod?
chown
: Already requires root.
chgrp
: Users can only change into groups they themselves belong to.
chmod
: Probably impossible to restrict - unless you also block all
programming language compilers/interpreters and disable any remote
filesystem access (including SFTP).
(It might be possible to block the
chmod()
syscall with something
like AppArmor (if it can block syscalls at all), but it would break a
whole lot of programs.)
It sounds like you've come up with a great feature request for Firefox and Chrome.
add a comment |
From: In Linux, how can I prevent users from executing chown, chgrp or chmod?
chown
: Already requires root.
chgrp
: Users can only change into groups they themselves belong to.
chmod
: Probably impossible to restrict - unless you also block all
programming language compilers/interpreters and disable any remote
filesystem access (including SFTP).
(It might be possible to block the
chmod()
syscall with something
like AppArmor (if it can block syscalls at all), but it would break a
whole lot of programs.)
It sounds like you've come up with a great feature request for Firefox and Chrome.
From: In Linux, how can I prevent users from executing chown, chgrp or chmod?
chown
: Already requires root.
chgrp
: Users can only change into groups they themselves belong to.
chmod
: Probably impossible to restrict - unless you also block all
programming language compilers/interpreters and disable any remote
filesystem access (including SFTP).
(It might be possible to block the
chmod()
syscall with something
like AppArmor (if it can block syscalls at all), but it would break a
whole lot of programs.)
It sounds like you've come up with a great feature request for Firefox and Chrome.
answered 12 hours ago
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To disable execution in this manner would prohibit users from being able to do anything on system. There is no mechanism for this in-built to the system or even with third party software that I am aware of to do this type of security lockdown
– Thomas Ward♦
14 hours ago
not answering but hint what you can do: add noexec on user writable mounts. wont prevent scripts but actual binary execution.
– Sampo Sarrala
1 hour ago