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Though I know it's uncommon usage (and intentionally so). Is the follow sentence legitimate?

She safes the dangerous area so it cannot be stumbled upon.

Obviously, modern usage would be "she makes safe", but some research on my part shows that "safes" is an acceptable "third-person singular simple present" form of safe.

Am I correct?

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Though I know it's uncommon usage (and intentionally so). Is the follow sentence legitimate?

She safes the dangerous area so it cannot be stumbled upon.

Obviously, modern usage would be "she makes safe", but some research on my part shows that "safes" is an acceptable "third-person singular simple present" form of safe.

Am I correct?

usage tenses verb-forms

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  I'm guessing you'll spend more time explaining that you didn't mean "saves" than you gain by replacing "makes safe"
  
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  You could use 'safeguards' or 'secures' if you just want one word.
  
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  Why bother with archaisms in industrial contexts? Also, you do not mean stumbled upon, which means to come upon by chance. You mean: so no one falls over junk (objects) on the floor.
  
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  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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Though I know it's uncommon usage (and intentionally so). Is the follow sentence legitimate?

She safes the dangerous area so it cannot be stumbled upon.

Obviously, modern usage would be "she makes safe", but some research on my part shows that "safes" is an acceptable "third-person singular simple present" form of safe.

Am I correct?

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Pretty sure we only use safe as a verb ordinance or firearms. There might be other domains (operations security maybe?) but by the verb safe we definitely mean operating a safety mechanism designed to keep the weapon from being firing/detonating.

The military definition is provided at The Free Dictionary, with citation to the US DOD (PDF).

As applied to weapons and ammunition, the changing from a state of readiness for initiation to a safe condition. Also called de-arming.

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  @user067531 Just going off of experience, and many years of talking about guns and reading books about war. The military definition is provided here: thefreedictionary.com/safing With citation to the US DOD jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/Doctrine/pubs/dictionary.pdf
  
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  @user067531 you may note both examples you found are gun related. As are all the ones I can find on google. Hard too prove it hasn't been used outside those domains... but all I get for "safing" is articles on nukes and aircraft cannons. For instance: books.google.com/…
  
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  That wouldn’t make it a common usage, but a jargon one.
  
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  Don't quite remember the range in yards, but maybe it was 100 yards at Glakes NTC in the early 70s. I hit like 9 in the 10 ring, and clipped the outside on one shot. I was all excited, with buck fever because I thought I had qualified for marksman,but I was handing over the the rifle, and the range instructor screamed at me " Safe that weapon, asshole." Man...was I embarrased. A year on, and in a different geography, ...I heard a gunny screaming the same at a 3 stripe for the same reason on a .50 cal. His idea of safing included tilting the gun up pointing at the sky.
  
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Safe as a verb is quite uncommon, Wiktionary is one of the very few sources to show a few usage examples:

(transitive) To make something safe.

• 2007, Rocky Raab, Mike Five Eight: Air War Over Cambodia: Air War Over Cambodia
  “It just trails behind the pylon until I land, then Cramer removes it when he safes the rocket pods. No evidence of anything when I taxi back inside the compound.”




• 2012, Erik Seedhouse, Interplanetary Outpost
  One of the most important events after touchdown will be to safe the Dauntless, which will include purging the engines and shutting down the landing systems […]

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  Not common, but it does get used: John always safes his gun before putting it away. Leslie is far less careful. "Let me just safe my gun" said John. Guns usually come with safety locks, so the usage is quite specific.
  
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  It's not uncommon, it's just common only in a technical domain that requires the operation of mechanical safeties.
  
  – sas08
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  It is very uncommon and here can clearly be seen to be weapon-related or space-vehicule related.
  
  – Lambie
  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  The OED attests this usage with citations from 1602 up through 2009. It belongs to their frequency band 3, which comprises 20% of the non-obsolete terms in the dictionary, and whose "Verbs tend to be either colloquial or technical, e.g. emote, mosey, josh, recapitalize."
  
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  @Cascabel I did not vote for closure. I am merely saying that in the civilian world it is not common. That is a fact. But tell me, would you say it for the context provided by the OP? Some find of factory floor? I doubt it...
  
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Pretty sure we only use safe as a verb ordinance or firearms. There might be other domains (operations security maybe?) but by the verb safe we definitely mean operating a safety mechanism designed to keep the weapon from being firing/detonating.

The military definition is provided at The Free Dictionary, with citation to the US DOD (PDF).

As applied to weapons and ammunition, the changing from a state of readiness for initiation to a safe condition. Also called de-arming.

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  Please provide evidence about the usage you are referring to.
  
  – user067531
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @user067531 Just going off of experience, and many years of talking about guns and reading books about war. The military definition is provided here: thefreedictionary.com/safing With citation to the US DOD jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/Doctrine/pubs/dictionary.pdf
  
  – sas08
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @user067531 you may note both examples you found are gun related. As are all the ones I can find on google. Hard too prove it hasn't been used outside those domains... but all I get for "safing" is articles on nukes and aircraft cannons. For instance: books.google.com/…
  
  – sas08
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  That wouldn’t make it a common usage, but a jargon one.
  
  – user067531
  7 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Don't quite remember the range in yards, but maybe it was 100 yards at Glakes NTC in the early 70s. I hit like 9 in the 10 ring, and clipped the outside on one shot. I was all excited, with buck fever because I thought I had qualified for marksman,but I was handing over the the rifle, and the range instructor screamed at me " Safe that weapon, asshole." Man...was I embarrased. A year on, and in a different geography, ...I heard a gunny screaming the same at a 3 stripe for the same reason on a .50 cal. His idea of safing included tilting the gun up pointing at the sky.
  
  – Cascabel
  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  

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Pretty sure we only use safe as a verb ordinance or firearms. There might be other domains (operations security maybe?) but by the verb safe we definitely mean operating a safety mechanism designed to keep the weapon from being firing/detonating.

The military definition is provided at The Free Dictionary, with citation to the US DOD (PDF).

As applied to weapons and ammunition, the changing from a state of readiness for initiation to a safe condition. Also called de-arming.

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  Please provide evidence about the usage you are referring to.
  
  – user067531
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @user067531 Just going off of experience, and many years of talking about guns and reading books about war. The military definition is provided here: thefreedictionary.com/safing With citation to the US DOD jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/Doctrine/pubs/dictionary.pdf
  
  – sas08
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @user067531 you may note both examples you found are gun related. As are all the ones I can find on google. Hard too prove it hasn't been used outside those domains... but all I get for "safing" is articles on nukes and aircraft cannons. For instance: books.google.com/…
  
  – sas08
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  That wouldn’t make it a common usage, but a jargon one.
  
  – user067531
  7 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Don't quite remember the range in yards, but maybe it was 100 yards at Glakes NTC in the early 70s. I hit like 9 in the 10 ring, and clipped the outside on one shot. I was all excited, with buck fever because I thought I had qualified for marksman,but I was handing over the the rifle, and the range instructor screamed at me " Safe that weapon, asshole." Man...was I embarrased. A year on, and in a different geography, ...I heard a gunny screaming the same at a 3 stripe for the same reason on a .50 cal. His idea of safing included tilting the gun up pointing at the sky.
  
  – Cascabel
  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
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Pretty sure we only use safe as a verb ordinance or firearms. There might be other domains (operations security maybe?) but by the verb safe we definitely mean operating a safety mechanism designed to keep the weapon from being firing/detonating.

The military definition is provided at The Free Dictionary, with citation to the US DOD (PDF).

As applied to weapons and ammunition, the changing from a state of readiness for initiation to a safe condition. Also called de-arming.

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Safe as a verb is quite uncommon, Wiktionary is one of the very few sources to show a few usage examples:

(transitive) To make something safe.

• 2007, Rocky Raab, Mike Five Eight: Air War Over Cambodia: Air War Over Cambodia
  “It just trails behind the pylon until I land, then Cramer removes it when he safes the rocket pods. No evidence of anything when I taxi back inside the compound.”




• 2012, Erik Seedhouse, Interplanetary Outpost
  One of the most important events after touchdown will be to safe the Dauntless, which will include purging the engines and shutting down the landing systems […]

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

user067531user067531

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• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Not common, but it does get used: John always safes his gun before putting it away. Leslie is far less careful. "Let me just safe my gun" said John. Guns usually come with safety locks, so the usage is quite specific.
  
  – Wayfaring Stranger
  8 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  5
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  It's not uncommon, it's just common only in a technical domain that requires the operation of mechanical safeties.
  
  – sas08
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  It is very uncommon and here can clearly be seen to be weapon-related or space-vehicule related.
  
  – Lambie
  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  The OED attests this usage with citations from 1602 up through 2009. It belongs to their frequency band 3, which comprises 20% of the non-obsolete terms in the dictionary, and whose "Verbs tend to be either colloquial or technical, e.g. emote, mosey, josh, recapitalize."
  
  – tchrist♦
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Cascabel I did not vote for closure. I am merely saying that in the civilian world it is not common. That is a fact. But tell me, would you say it for the context provided by the OP? Some find of factory floor? I doubt it...
  
  – Lambie
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

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Safe as a verb is quite uncommon, Wiktionary is one of the very few sources to show a few usage examples:

(transitive) To make something safe.

• 2007, Rocky Raab, Mike Five Eight: Air War Over Cambodia: Air War Over Cambodia
  “It just trails behind the pylon until I land, then Cramer removes it when he safes the rocket pods. No evidence of anything when I taxi back inside the compound.”




• 2012, Erik Seedhouse, Interplanetary Outpost
  One of the most important events after touchdown will be to safe the Dauntless, which will include purging the engines and shutting down the landing systems […]

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

user067531user067531

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• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Not common, but it does get used: John always safes his gun before putting it away. Leslie is far less careful. "Let me just safe my gun" said John. Guns usually come with safety locks, so the usage is quite specific.
  
  – Wayfaring Stranger
  8 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  5
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  It's not uncommon, it's just common only in a technical domain that requires the operation of mechanical safeties.
  
  – sas08
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  It is very uncommon and here can clearly be seen to be weapon-related or space-vehicule related.
  
  – Lambie
  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  The OED attests this usage with citations from 1602 up through 2009. It belongs to their frequency band 3, which comprises 20% of the non-obsolete terms in the dictionary, and whose "Verbs tend to be either colloquial or technical, e.g. emote, mosey, josh, recapitalize."
  
  – tchrist♦
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Cascabel I did not vote for closure. I am merely saying that in the civilian world it is not common. That is a fact. But tell me, would you say it for the context provided by the OP? Some find of factory floor? I doubt it...
  
  – Lambie
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Safe as a verb is quite uncommon, Wiktionary is one of the very few sources to show a few usage examples:

(transitive) To make something safe.

• 2007, Rocky Raab, Mike Five Eight: Air War Over Cambodia: Air War Over Cambodia
  “It just trails behind the pylon until I land, then Cramer removes it when he safes the rocket pods. No evidence of anything when I taxi back inside the compound.”




• 2012, Erik Seedhouse, Interplanetary Outpost
  One of the most important events after touchdown will be to safe the Dauntless, which will include purging the engines and shutting down the landing systems […]

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