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How to use properly “sich selbst”
How to use “sich”When to use “beziehungsweise”Meaning of “ließ sich als Druck- und Drohmittel einsetzen”Is there any difference between “laufen” and “rennen”?Are there any literary refrerences to cloth that is called “Kümmel und Salz”?The brain-bending “widersetzen”The grammar behind: “… geht auch auf so eine Verständigung zurück”“bei der” in “Vollzeit - Eine Arbeitsstelle, bei der man jeden Tag unter der Woche arbeitet”drohen used as a dative verb
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I would like to understand why do I need to add the selbst to the word sich in this sentence:
Ergänzen Sie den Steckbrief und schreiben Sie einen Text über sich selbst.
In my mind it would be enough to finish this sentence with only
...einen Text über sich.
I need examples that support the explanation to understand it properly
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I would like to understand why do I need to add the selbst to the word sich in this sentence:
Ergänzen Sie den Steckbrief und schreiben Sie einen Text über sich selbst.
In my mind it would be enough to finish this sentence with only
...einen Text über sich.
I need examples that support the explanation to understand it properly
Related topic:
How to use "sich"
meaning differences grammar-identification
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It's just like in English: Write a text about you / Write a text about yourself.
– infinitezero
8 hours ago
Did you notice how odd the redundancy in "* ... him, he who ..." is? Of course it's redundant and you can drop the he, but him whom sounds bad if not wrong, whereas him who lacks agreement in the antecedent. Now how to connect this to the question? se had been a pronoun in OE similar to him or sich, when the language was still strongly self reflexive; Analoguously, beschreiben Sie sich would just mean beschreiben Sie (cp. raffen Sie sich auf); One would have to ask was soll ich mir beschreiben?. Although, "* schreiben Sie sich einen Text über selbst" is ungrammatical.
– vectory
5 hours ago
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I would like to understand why do I need to add the selbst to the word sich in this sentence:
Ergänzen Sie den Steckbrief und schreiben Sie einen Text über sich selbst.
In my mind it would be enough to finish this sentence with only
...einen Text über sich.
I need examples that support the explanation to understand it properly
Related topic:
How to use "sich"
meaning differences grammar-identification
asked 10 hours ago
Victor VergaVictor Verga
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I would like to understand why do I need to add the selbst to the word sich in this sentence:
Ergänzen Sie den Steckbrief und schreiben Sie einen Text über sich selbst.
In my mind it would be enough to finish this sentence with only
...einen Text über sich.
I need examples that support the explanation to understand it properly
Related topic:
How to use "sich"
meaning differences grammar-identification
meaning differences grammar-identification
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It's just like in English: Write a text about you / Write a text about yourself.
– infinitezero
8 hours ago
Did you notice how odd the redundancy in "* ... him, he who ..." is? Of course it's redundant and you can drop the he, but him whom sounds bad if not wrong, whereas him who lacks agreement in the antecedent. Now how to connect this to the question? se had been a pronoun in OE similar to him or sich, when the language was still strongly self reflexive; Analoguously, beschreiben Sie sich would just mean beschreiben Sie (cp. raffen Sie sich auf); One would have to ask was soll ich mir beschreiben?. Although, "* schreiben Sie sich einen Text über selbst" is ungrammatical.
– vectory
5 hours ago
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It's just like in English: Write a text about you / Write a text about yourself.
– infinitezero
8 hours ago
Did you notice how odd the redundancy in "* ... him, he who ..." is? Of course it's redundant and you can drop the he, but him whom sounds bad if not wrong, whereas him who lacks agreement in the antecedent. Now how to connect this to the question? se had been a pronoun in OE similar to him or sich, when the language was still strongly self reflexive; Analoguously, beschreiben Sie sich would just mean beschreiben Sie (cp. raffen Sie sich auf); One would have to ask was soll ich mir beschreiben?. Although, "* schreiben Sie sich einen Text über selbst" is ungrammatical.
– vectory
5 hours ago
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It's just like in English: Write a text about you / Write a text about yourself.
– infinitezero
8 hours ago
It's just like in English: Write a text about you / Write a text about yourself.
– infinitezero
8 hours ago
Did you notice how odd the redundancy in "* ... him, he who ..." is? Of course it's redundant and you can drop the he, but him whom sounds bad if not wrong, whereas him who lacks agreement in the antecedent. Now how to connect this to the question? se had been a pronoun in OE similar to him or sich, when the language was still strongly self reflexive; Analoguously, beschreiben Sie sich would just mean beschreiben Sie (cp. raffen Sie sich auf); One would have to ask was soll ich mir beschreiben?. Although, "* schreiben Sie sich einen Text über selbst" is ungrammatical.
– vectory
5 hours ago
Did you notice how odd the redundancy in "* ... him, he who ..." is? Of course it's redundant and you can drop the he, but him whom sounds bad if not wrong, whereas him who lacks agreement in the antecedent. Now how to connect this to the question? se had been a pronoun in OE similar to him or sich, when the language was still strongly self reflexive; Analoguously, beschreiben Sie sich would just mean beschreiben Sie (cp. raffen Sie sich auf); One would have to ask was soll ich mir beschreiben?. Although, "* schreiben Sie sich einen Text über selbst" is ungrammatical.
– vectory
5 hours ago
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Both sentences convey the same meaning and I wouldn't be surprised if I read either one, meaning that there is no "need to add the selbst".
One could argue, however, that the two sentences have a different emphasis. The version without selbst emphasizes the text, whereas the version with selbst emphasizes the topic of the text.
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Good idea. To add examples, consider "schreiben Sie selbst einen Text über sich", which emphasises doing it alone, giving a self-reflected opinion. We would also say "Schreiben Sie einen Text über sich. Schreiben Sie den Text selbst [alleine, ohne Hilfe]". "Selber über sich schreiben ist schwierig". I'm not sure whether only I am conflating selber and selbst, or if this is common practice. One might add that determinative derselbe, denselben, etc. is the sameone self-same redundancy.
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Both sentences convey the same meaning and I wouldn't be surprised if I read either one, meaning that there is no "need to add the selbst".
One could argue, however, that the two sentences have a different emphasis. The version without selbst emphasizes the text, whereas the version with selbst emphasizes the topic of the text.
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Good idea. To add examples, consider "schreiben Sie selbst einen Text über sich", which emphasises doing it alone, giving a self-reflected opinion. We would also say "Schreiben Sie einen Text über sich. Schreiben Sie den Text selbst [alleine, ohne Hilfe]". "Selber über sich schreiben ist schwierig". I'm not sure whether only I am conflating selber and selbst, or if this is common practice. One might add that determinative derselbe, denselben, etc. is the sameone self-same redundancy.
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Both sentences convey the same meaning and I wouldn't be surprised if I read either one, meaning that there is no "need to add the selbst".
One could argue, however, that the two sentences have a different emphasis. The version without selbst emphasizes the text, whereas the version with selbst emphasizes the topic of the text.
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Good idea. To add examples, consider "schreiben Sie selbst einen Text über sich", which emphasises doing it alone, giving a self-reflected opinion. We would also say "Schreiben Sie einen Text über sich. Schreiben Sie den Text selbst [alleine, ohne Hilfe]". "Selber über sich schreiben ist schwierig". I'm not sure whether only I am conflating selber and selbst, or if this is common practice. One might add that determinative derselbe, denselben, etc. is the sameone self-same redundancy.
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Both sentences convey the same meaning and I wouldn't be surprised if I read either one, meaning that there is no "need to add the selbst".
One could argue, however, that the two sentences have a different emphasis. The version without selbst emphasizes the text, whereas the version with selbst emphasizes the topic of the text.
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Both sentences convey the same meaning and I wouldn't be surprised if I read either one, meaning that there is no "need to add the selbst".
One could argue, however, that the two sentences have a different emphasis. The version without selbst emphasizes the text, whereas the version with selbst emphasizes the topic of the text.
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Good idea. To add examples, consider "schreiben Sie selbst einen Text über sich", which emphasises doing it alone, giving a self-reflected opinion. We would also say "Schreiben Sie einen Text über sich. Schreiben Sie den Text selbst [alleine, ohne Hilfe]". "Selber über sich schreiben ist schwierig". I'm not sure whether only I am conflating selber and selbst, or if this is common practice. One might add that determinative derselbe, denselben, etc. is the sameone self-same redundancy.
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Good idea. To add examples, consider "schreiben Sie selbst einen Text über sich", which emphasises doing it alone, giving a self-reflected opinion. We would also say "Schreiben Sie einen Text über sich. Schreiben Sie den Text selbst [alleine, ohne Hilfe]". "Selber über sich schreiben ist schwierig". I'm not sure whether only I am conflating selber and selbst, or if this is common practice. One might add that determinative derselbe, denselben, etc. is the sameone self-same redundancy.
– vectory
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Good idea. To add examples, consider "schreiben Sie selbst einen Text über sich", which emphasises doing it alone, giving a self-reflected opinion. We would also say "Schreiben Sie einen Text über sich. Schreiben Sie den Text selbst [alleine, ohne Hilfe]". "Selber über sich schreiben ist schwierig". I'm not sure whether only I am conflating selber and selbst, or if this is common practice. One might add that determinative derselbe, denselben, etc. is the sameone self-same redundancy.
– vectory
5 hours ago
Good idea. To add examples, consider "schreiben Sie selbst einen Text über sich", which emphasises doing it alone, giving a self-reflected opinion. We would also say "Schreiben Sie einen Text über sich. Schreiben Sie den Text selbst [alleine, ohne Hilfe]". "Selber über sich schreiben ist schwierig". I'm not sure whether only I am conflating selber and selbst, or if this is common practice. One might add that determinative derselbe, denselben, etc. is the sameone self-same redundancy.
– vectory
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It's just like in English: Write a text about you / Write a text about yourself.
– infinitezero
8 hours ago
Did you notice how odd the redundancy in "* ... him, he who ..." is? Of course it's redundant and you can drop the he, but him whom sounds bad if not wrong, whereas him who lacks agreement in the antecedent. Now how to connect this to the question? se had been a pronoun in OE similar to him or sich, when the language was still strongly self reflexive; Analoguously, beschreiben Sie sich would just mean beschreiben Sie (cp. raffen Sie sich auf); One would have to ask was soll ich mir beschreiben?. Although, "* schreiben Sie sich einen Text über selbst" is ungrammatical.
– vectory
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