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I'm a PhD student in a math department at a research university in the US. When I started the program I was given an account on the department server with a website and a nice department email address. Now I've found out that the department (or the university?) is doing away with the server and instructing everyone to instead use the G Suite email and Google services that the general student body of the university uses. So I suppose I'll have to pay to host my website somewhere, or convert it manually into a Google Site as the department is suggesting (which unfortunately, to my knowledge, doesn't support math markup). I'm worried that having a Google Site as opposed to a .edu website will appear unprofessional, and I'm a bit irked that I'll have to take the time to migrate my site elsewhere. Also I think it's peculiar that not even the math faculty will have a .edu domain to host a website.
Should I be upset by this? Is this unusual? Or is this just the trend of the future? Is this more typical than I think it is?
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I'm a PhD student in a math department at a research university in the US. When I started the program I was given an account on the department server with a website and a nice department email address. Now I've found out that the department (or the university?) is doing away with the server and instructing everyone to instead use the G Suite email and Google services that the general student body of the university uses. So I suppose I'll have to pay to host my website somewhere, or convert it manually into a Google Site as the department is suggesting (which unfortunately, to my knowledge, doesn't support math markup). I'm worried that having a Google Site as opposed to a .edu website will appear unprofessional, and I'm a bit irked that I'll have to take the time to migrate my site elsewhere. Also I think it's peculiar that not even the math faculty will have a .edu domain to host a website.
Should I be upset by this? Is this unusual? Or is this just the trend of the future? Is this more typical than I think it is?
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Becoming more common. Be thankful it is GSuite and not MS Exchange.
– Buffy
8 hours ago
1
I wouldn't say it's unusual.. to my knowledge at e.g. Warwick in the UK the maths and CS-specific mail and web servers have been replaced for the most part by services operated centrally. It sounds like the replacements you've been told to use are inadequate for their intended purpose, however. Warwick's central CMS supports rendering LaTeX natively or via Mathjax because it's pretty important for mathematics use! You might like to check if your university offers central IT services that could provide you with hosting/a virtual server to use.
– Adam Williams
8 hours ago
1
It’s extremely easy to enable MathJax on any website - literally a single line of HTML code that loads a JavaScript library. I’d be amazed if this isn’t possible to do on a Google site. As for “should I be upset”, I think you have several unrelated complaints (central campus email, time to migrate website, non-edu web domain) and only the last one seems a legitimate reason for griping. If your email address was non-edu that would also be a problem, but it sounds like that’s not the case.
– Dan Romik
8 hours ago
1
The answers for the two are different, in my experience: Mail server: yes, very common. Web server: a lot less.
– Federico Poloni
7 hours ago
3
Your employer is also telling its math department that it can't use MathJobs for hiring, and that applicants and rec letter writers instead have to use a stupid homegrown website.
– academic
4 hours ago
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I'm a PhD student in a math department at a research university in the US. When I started the program I was given an account on the department server with a website and a nice department email address. Now I've found out that the department (or the university?) is doing away with the server and instructing everyone to instead use the G Suite email and Google services that the general student body of the university uses. So I suppose I'll have to pay to host my website somewhere, or convert it manually into a Google Site as the department is suggesting (which unfortunately, to my knowledge, doesn't support math markup). I'm worried that having a Google Site as opposed to a .edu website will appear unprofessional, and I'm a bit irked that I'll have to take the time to migrate my site elsewhere. Also I think it's peculiar that not even the math faculty will have a .edu domain to host a website.
Should I be upset by this? Is this unusual? Or is this just the trend of the future? Is this more typical than I think it is?
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I'm a PhD student in a math department at a research university in the US. When I started the program I was given an account on the department server with a website and a nice department email address. Now I've found out that the department (or the university?) is doing away with the server and instructing everyone to instead use the G Suite email and Google services that the general student body of the university uses. So I suppose I'll have to pay to host my website somewhere, or convert it manually into a Google Site as the department is suggesting (which unfortunately, to my knowledge, doesn't support math markup). I'm worried that having a Google Site as opposed to a .edu website will appear unprofessional, and I'm a bit irked that I'll have to take the time to migrate my site elsewhere. Also I think it's peculiar that not even the math faculty will have a .edu domain to host a website.
Should I be upset by this? Is this unusual? Or is this just the trend of the future? Is this more typical than I think it is?
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8
Becoming more common. Be thankful it is GSuite and not MS Exchange.
– Buffy
8 hours ago
1
I wouldn't say it's unusual.. to my knowledge at e.g. Warwick in the UK the maths and CS-specific mail and web servers have been replaced for the most part by services operated centrally. It sounds like the replacements you've been told to use are inadequate for their intended purpose, however. Warwick's central CMS supports rendering LaTeX natively or via Mathjax because it's pretty important for mathematics use! You might like to check if your university offers central IT services that could provide you with hosting/a virtual server to use.
– Adam Williams
8 hours ago
1
It’s extremely easy to enable MathJax on any website - literally a single line of HTML code that loads a JavaScript library. I’d be amazed if this isn’t possible to do on a Google site. As for “should I be upset”, I think you have several unrelated complaints (central campus email, time to migrate website, non-edu web domain) and only the last one seems a legitimate reason for griping. If your email address was non-edu that would also be a problem, but it sounds like that’s not the case.
– Dan Romik
8 hours ago
1
The answers for the two are different, in my experience: Mail server: yes, very common. Web server: a lot less.
– Federico Poloni
7 hours ago
3
Your employer is also telling its math department that it can't use MathJobs for hiring, and that applicants and rec letter writers instead have to use a stupid homegrown website.
– academic
4 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
8
Becoming more common. Be thankful it is GSuite and not MS Exchange.
– Buffy
8 hours ago
1
I wouldn't say it's unusual.. to my knowledge at e.g. Warwick in the UK the maths and CS-specific mail and web servers have been replaced for the most part by services operated centrally. It sounds like the replacements you've been told to use are inadequate for their intended purpose, however. Warwick's central CMS supports rendering LaTeX natively or via Mathjax because it's pretty important for mathematics use! You might like to check if your university offers central IT services that could provide you with hosting/a virtual server to use.
– Adam Williams
8 hours ago
1
It’s extremely easy to enable MathJax on any website - literally a single line of HTML code that loads a JavaScript library. I’d be amazed if this isn’t possible to do on a Google site. As for “should I be upset”, I think you have several unrelated complaints (central campus email, time to migrate website, non-edu web domain) and only the last one seems a legitimate reason for griping. If your email address was non-edu that would also be a problem, but it sounds like that’s not the case.
– Dan Romik
8 hours ago
1
The answers for the two are different, in my experience: Mail server: yes, very common. Web server: a lot less.
– Federico Poloni
7 hours ago
3
Your employer is also telling its math department that it can't use MathJobs for hiring, and that applicants and rec letter writers instead have to use a stupid homegrown website.
– academic
4 hours ago
8
8
Becoming more common. Be thankful it is GSuite and not MS Exchange.
– Buffy
8 hours ago
Becoming more common. Be thankful it is GSuite and not MS Exchange.
– Buffy
8 hours ago
1
1
I wouldn't say it's unusual.. to my knowledge at e.g. Warwick in the UK the maths and CS-specific mail and web servers have been replaced for the most part by services operated centrally. It sounds like the replacements you've been told to use are inadequate for their intended purpose, however. Warwick's central CMS supports rendering LaTeX natively or via Mathjax because it's pretty important for mathematics use! You might like to check if your university offers central IT services that could provide you with hosting/a virtual server to use.
– Adam Williams
8 hours ago
I wouldn't say it's unusual.. to my knowledge at e.g. Warwick in the UK the maths and CS-specific mail and web servers have been replaced for the most part by services operated centrally. It sounds like the replacements you've been told to use are inadequate for their intended purpose, however. Warwick's central CMS supports rendering LaTeX natively or via Mathjax because it's pretty important for mathematics use! You might like to check if your university offers central IT services that could provide you with hosting/a virtual server to use.
– Adam Williams
8 hours ago
1
1
It’s extremely easy to enable MathJax on any website - literally a single line of HTML code that loads a JavaScript library. I’d be amazed if this isn’t possible to do on a Google site. As for “should I be upset”, I think you have several unrelated complaints (central campus email, time to migrate website, non-edu web domain) and only the last one seems a legitimate reason for griping. If your email address was non-edu that would also be a problem, but it sounds like that’s not the case.
– Dan Romik
8 hours ago
It’s extremely easy to enable MathJax on any website - literally a single line of HTML code that loads a JavaScript library. I’d be amazed if this isn’t possible to do on a Google site. As for “should I be upset”, I think you have several unrelated complaints (central campus email, time to migrate website, non-edu web domain) and only the last one seems a legitimate reason for griping. If your email address was non-edu that would also be a problem, but it sounds like that’s not the case.
– Dan Romik
8 hours ago
1
1
The answers for the two are different, in my experience: Mail server: yes, very common. Web server: a lot less.
– Federico Poloni
7 hours ago
The answers for the two are different, in my experience: Mail server: yes, very common. Web server: a lot less.
– Federico Poloni
7 hours ago
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3
Your employer is also telling its math department that it can't use MathJobs for hiring, and that applicants and rec letter writers instead have to use a stupid homegrown website.
– academic
4 hours ago
Your employer is also telling its math department that it can't use MathJobs for hiring, and that applicants and rec letter writers instead have to use a stupid homegrown website.
– academic
4 hours ago
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I've found out that the department (or the university?) is doing away with the server and instructing everyone to instead use the G Suite email and Google services that the general student body of the university uses.
It sounds like the university is outsourcing IT, which is normal.
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It certainly is common nowadays. I'd refuse to call it normal.
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As a math graduate student in the US, current norms make it reasonable for you to expect your department to offer you access to certain IT services, including:
- A (free) email address that is credibly affiliated with your university’s recognized domain name, i.e.,
yourname@uniname.edu
yourname@math.uniname.edu
are both good and reasonable, but anything along the lines
yourname@gmail.com
yourname@gsuites.com
yourname.uniname@gmail.com
yourname@uniname-gsuites.com
yourname@uniname.gsuites.com
(etc) doesn’t sound really acceptable to me. I’d be very upset if my department forced such email addresses on everyone (fortunately I’m now the chair of the computer committee, so I’ll make sure that doesn’t happen ;-)).
An easy (and free) web hosting solution for hosting a personal web page.
Ideally, the web host will have a URL associated with the university .edu domain.
Also ideally, any third parties that such services are contracted out to should be ethical companies that offer strong guarantees to respect users’ privacy, and have a reputation for living up to their promises in this area. In an even more ideal situation, these companies will be ones whose profits are positively correlated to how good of a job they do respecting and protecting their users’ privacy.
From the situation you described, it sounds like item 3 above is a legitimate reason for you to be upset, and potentially also item 4. With item 1, by your description it sounds like you’ll still have a campus-domain email address, which is reasonable. As for having to migrate your web page, I think you’d look a bit petty if you were to try to turn that into an issue.
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I'm worried that having a Google Site as opposed to a .edu website
will appear unprofessional...
I think that this worry is unfounded. Similarly, I don't think that it would be unprofessional were you to have a url like www.MikePierce.com. You just need to avoid having to put something like www.badboymowers.com/mikepierce on your CV when you apply for jobs.
More seriously, several of my collaborators use Google Site pages as their main professional websites, and I know of several more respected mathematicians that do so as well. And this is all off the top of my head. So I doubt you'll stand out in a negative manner if you have to migrate your website to a Google Site.
Similarly, there are also a lot of people that have .edu email addresses but choose not to use them professionally (though this is much less common). For example, one of my collaborators has a website hosted by his institution but lists his gmail email address in all of his publications.
Should I be upset by this? Is this unusual? Or is this just the trend
of the future? Is this more typical than I think it is?
I think that your department's situation is that of a growing minority of departments. I think that if you have a professional looking Google Site page that is linked to by your department's official website then you'll have nothing to worry about.
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OP may be more ambitious than wanting to “not stand out in a negative manner”. For example, he may wish to stand out in a positive manner, and I’d think that would be extremely difficult to do with a google site. In any case, different people care about different things. Just because some successful mathematicians use a gmail address or have a google site doesn’t mean it‘s unreasonable to not want to follow their example.
– Dan Romik
5 hours ago
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@DanRomik - My comment about "not stand out in a negative manner" was in merely in response to the OP's worry that having a google site would look unprofessional. Perhaps I could have worded it better, but I honestly believe that there is nothing that one can do website-wise that will make them stand out in a positive manner. It's simply too subjective. For example some people strongly prefer very bare bones, old school html pages (white background, black text, photo at the top, list of classes taught and publications down the page, etc) over more looking modern sites.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
@DanRomik (cont'd) - I don't disagree with you at all about it not being unreasonable to not want to follow the lead of the examples I mentioned. My point was simply that none of this was likely to have a negative impact on the OP's professional appearance.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
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I've found out that the department (or the university?) is doing away with the server and instructing everyone to instead use the G Suite email and Google services that the general student body of the university uses.
It sounds like the university is outsourcing IT, which is normal.
answered 8 hours ago
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It certainly is common nowadays. I'd refuse to call it normal.
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I've found out that the department (or the university?) is doing away with the server and instructing everyone to instead use the G Suite email and Google services that the general student body of the university uses.
It sounds like the university is outsourcing IT, which is normal.
answered 8 hours ago
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It certainly is common nowadays. I'd refuse to call it normal.
– mmeent
8 hours ago
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I've found out that the department (or the university?) is doing away with the server and instructing everyone to instead use the G Suite email and Google services that the general student body of the university uses.
It sounds like the university is outsourcing IT, which is normal.
answered 8 hours ago
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I've found out that the department (or the university?) is doing away with the server and instructing everyone to instead use the G Suite email and Google services that the general student body of the university uses.
It sounds like the university is outsourcing IT, which is normal.
answered 8 hours ago
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It certainly is common nowadays. I'd refuse to call it normal.
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It certainly is common nowadays. I'd refuse to call it normal.
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As a math graduate student in the US, current norms make it reasonable for you to expect your department to offer you access to certain IT services, including:
- A (free) email address that is credibly affiliated with your university’s recognized domain name, i.e.,
yourname@uniname.edu
yourname@math.uniname.edu
are both good and reasonable, but anything along the lines
yourname@gmail.com
yourname@gsuites.com
yourname.uniname@gmail.com
yourname@uniname-gsuites.com
yourname@uniname.gsuites.com
(etc) doesn’t sound really acceptable to me. I’d be very upset if my department forced such email addresses on everyone (fortunately I’m now the chair of the computer committee, so I’ll make sure that doesn’t happen ;-)).
An easy (and free) web hosting solution for hosting a personal web page.
Ideally, the web host will have a URL associated with the university .edu domain.
Also ideally, any third parties that such services are contracted out to should be ethical companies that offer strong guarantees to respect users’ privacy, and have a reputation for living up to their promises in this area. In an even more ideal situation, these companies will be ones whose profits are positively correlated to how good of a job they do respecting and protecting their users’ privacy.
From the situation you described, it sounds like item 3 above is a legitimate reason for you to be upset, and potentially also item 4. With item 1, by your description it sounds like you’ll still have a campus-domain email address, which is reasonable. As for having to migrate your web page, I think you’d look a bit petty if you were to try to turn that into an issue.
answered 7 hours ago
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As a math graduate student in the US, current norms make it reasonable for you to expect your department to offer you access to certain IT services, including:
- A (free) email address that is credibly affiliated with your university’s recognized domain name, i.e.,
yourname@uniname.edu
yourname@math.uniname.edu
are both good and reasonable, but anything along the lines
yourname@gmail.com
yourname@gsuites.com
yourname.uniname@gmail.com
yourname@uniname-gsuites.com
yourname@uniname.gsuites.com
(etc) doesn’t sound really acceptable to me. I’d be very upset if my department forced such email addresses on everyone (fortunately I’m now the chair of the computer committee, so I’ll make sure that doesn’t happen ;-)).
An easy (and free) web hosting solution for hosting a personal web page.
Ideally, the web host will have a URL associated with the university .edu domain.
Also ideally, any third parties that such services are contracted out to should be ethical companies that offer strong guarantees to respect users’ privacy, and have a reputation for living up to their promises in this area. In an even more ideal situation, these companies will be ones whose profits are positively correlated to how good of a job they do respecting and protecting their users’ privacy.
From the situation you described, it sounds like item 3 above is a legitimate reason for you to be upset, and potentially also item 4. With item 1, by your description it sounds like you’ll still have a campus-domain email address, which is reasonable. As for having to migrate your web page, I think you’d look a bit petty if you were to try to turn that into an issue.
answered 7 hours ago
Dan RomikDan Romik
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add a comment |
As a math graduate student in the US, current norms make it reasonable for you to expect your department to offer you access to certain IT services, including:
- A (free) email address that is credibly affiliated with your university’s recognized domain name, i.e.,
yourname@uniname.edu
yourname@math.uniname.edu
are both good and reasonable, but anything along the lines
yourname@gmail.com
yourname@gsuites.com
yourname.uniname@gmail.com
yourname@uniname-gsuites.com
yourname@uniname.gsuites.com
(etc) doesn’t sound really acceptable to me. I’d be very upset if my department forced such email addresses on everyone (fortunately I’m now the chair of the computer committee, so I’ll make sure that doesn’t happen ;-)).
An easy (and free) web hosting solution for hosting a personal web page.
Ideally, the web host will have a URL associated with the university .edu domain.
Also ideally, any third parties that such services are contracted out to should be ethical companies that offer strong guarantees to respect users’ privacy, and have a reputation for living up to their promises in this area. In an even more ideal situation, these companies will be ones whose profits are positively correlated to how good of a job they do respecting and protecting their users’ privacy.
From the situation you described, it sounds like item 3 above is a legitimate reason for you to be upset, and potentially also item 4. With item 1, by your description it sounds like you’ll still have a campus-domain email address, which is reasonable. As for having to migrate your web page, I think you’d look a bit petty if you were to try to turn that into an issue.
answered 7 hours ago
Dan RomikDan Romik
92.4k23 gold badges199 silver badges308 bronze badges
As a math graduate student in the US, current norms make it reasonable for you to expect your department to offer you access to certain IT services, including:
- A (free) email address that is credibly affiliated with your university’s recognized domain name, i.e.,
yourname@uniname.edu
yourname@math.uniname.edu
are both good and reasonable, but anything along the lines
yourname@gmail.com
yourname@gsuites.com
yourname.uniname@gmail.com
yourname@uniname-gsuites.com
yourname@uniname.gsuites.com
(etc) doesn’t sound really acceptable to me. I’d be very upset if my department forced such email addresses on everyone (fortunately I’m now the chair of the computer committee, so I’ll make sure that doesn’t happen ;-)).
An easy (and free) web hosting solution for hosting a personal web page.
Ideally, the web host will have a URL associated with the university .edu domain.
Also ideally, any third parties that such services are contracted out to should be ethical companies that offer strong guarantees to respect users’ privacy, and have a reputation for living up to their promises in this area. In an even more ideal situation, these companies will be ones whose profits are positively correlated to how good of a job they do respecting and protecting their users’ privacy.
From the situation you described, it sounds like item 3 above is a legitimate reason for you to be upset, and potentially also item 4. With item 1, by your description it sounds like you’ll still have a campus-domain email address, which is reasonable. As for having to migrate your web page, I think you’d look a bit petty if you were to try to turn that into an issue.
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I'm worried that having a Google Site as opposed to a .edu website
will appear unprofessional...
I think that this worry is unfounded. Similarly, I don't think that it would be unprofessional were you to have a url like www.MikePierce.com. You just need to avoid having to put something like www.badboymowers.com/mikepierce on your CV when you apply for jobs.
More seriously, several of my collaborators use Google Site pages as their main professional websites, and I know of several more respected mathematicians that do so as well. And this is all off the top of my head. So I doubt you'll stand out in a negative manner if you have to migrate your website to a Google Site.
Similarly, there are also a lot of people that have .edu email addresses but choose not to use them professionally (though this is much less common). For example, one of my collaborators has a website hosted by his institution but lists his gmail email address in all of his publications.
Should I be upset by this? Is this unusual? Or is this just the trend
of the future? Is this more typical than I think it is?
I think that your department's situation is that of a growing minority of departments. I think that if you have a professional looking Google Site page that is linked to by your department's official website then you'll have nothing to worry about.
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OP may be more ambitious than wanting to “not stand out in a negative manner”. For example, he may wish to stand out in a positive manner, and I’d think that would be extremely difficult to do with a google site. In any case, different people care about different things. Just because some successful mathematicians use a gmail address or have a google site doesn’t mean it‘s unreasonable to not want to follow their example.
– Dan Romik
5 hours ago
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@DanRomik - My comment about "not stand out in a negative manner" was in merely in response to the OP's worry that having a google site would look unprofessional. Perhaps I could have worded it better, but I honestly believe that there is nothing that one can do website-wise that will make them stand out in a positive manner. It's simply too subjective. For example some people strongly prefer very bare bones, old school html pages (white background, black text, photo at the top, list of classes taught and publications down the page, etc) over more looking modern sites.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
@DanRomik (cont'd) - I don't disagree with you at all about it not being unreasonable to not want to follow the lead of the examples I mentioned. My point was simply that none of this was likely to have a negative impact on the OP's professional appearance.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
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I'm worried that having a Google Site as opposed to a .edu website
will appear unprofessional...
I think that this worry is unfounded. Similarly, I don't think that it would be unprofessional were you to have a url like www.MikePierce.com. You just need to avoid having to put something like www.badboymowers.com/mikepierce on your CV when you apply for jobs.
More seriously, several of my collaborators use Google Site pages as their main professional websites, and I know of several more respected mathematicians that do so as well. And this is all off the top of my head. So I doubt you'll stand out in a negative manner if you have to migrate your website to a Google Site.
Similarly, there are also a lot of people that have .edu email addresses but choose not to use them professionally (though this is much less common). For example, one of my collaborators has a website hosted by his institution but lists his gmail email address in all of his publications.
Should I be upset by this? Is this unusual? Or is this just the trend
of the future? Is this more typical than I think it is?
I think that your department's situation is that of a growing minority of departments. I think that if you have a professional looking Google Site page that is linked to by your department's official website then you'll have nothing to worry about.
answered 7 hours ago
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OP may be more ambitious than wanting to “not stand out in a negative manner”. For example, he may wish to stand out in a positive manner, and I’d think that would be extremely difficult to do with a google site. In any case, different people care about different things. Just because some successful mathematicians use a gmail address or have a google site doesn’t mean it‘s unreasonable to not want to follow their example.
– Dan Romik
5 hours ago
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@DanRomik - My comment about "not stand out in a negative manner" was in merely in response to the OP's worry that having a google site would look unprofessional. Perhaps I could have worded it better, but I honestly believe that there is nothing that one can do website-wise that will make them stand out in a positive manner. It's simply too subjective. For example some people strongly prefer very bare bones, old school html pages (white background, black text, photo at the top, list of classes taught and publications down the page, etc) over more looking modern sites.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
@DanRomik (cont'd) - I don't disagree with you at all about it not being unreasonable to not want to follow the lead of the examples I mentioned. My point was simply that none of this was likely to have a negative impact on the OP's professional appearance.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
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I'm worried that having a Google Site as opposed to a .edu website
will appear unprofessional...
I think that this worry is unfounded. Similarly, I don't think that it would be unprofessional were you to have a url like www.MikePierce.com. You just need to avoid having to put something like www.badboymowers.com/mikepierce on your CV when you apply for jobs.
More seriously, several of my collaborators use Google Site pages as their main professional websites, and I know of several more respected mathematicians that do so as well. And this is all off the top of my head. So I doubt you'll stand out in a negative manner if you have to migrate your website to a Google Site.
Similarly, there are also a lot of people that have .edu email addresses but choose not to use them professionally (though this is much less common). For example, one of my collaborators has a website hosted by his institution but lists his gmail email address in all of his publications.
Should I be upset by this? Is this unusual? Or is this just the trend
of the future? Is this more typical than I think it is?
I think that your department's situation is that of a growing minority of departments. I think that if you have a professional looking Google Site page that is linked to by your department's official website then you'll have nothing to worry about.
answered 7 hours ago
Ben LinowitzBen Linowitz
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I'm worried that having a Google Site as opposed to a .edu website
will appear unprofessional...
I think that this worry is unfounded. Similarly, I don't think that it would be unprofessional were you to have a url like www.MikePierce.com. You just need to avoid having to put something like www.badboymowers.com/mikepierce on your CV when you apply for jobs.
More seriously, several of my collaborators use Google Site pages as their main professional websites, and I know of several more respected mathematicians that do so as well. And this is all off the top of my head. So I doubt you'll stand out in a negative manner if you have to migrate your website to a Google Site.
Similarly, there are also a lot of people that have .edu email addresses but choose not to use them professionally (though this is much less common). For example, one of my collaborators has a website hosted by his institution but lists his gmail email address in all of his publications.
Should I be upset by this? Is this unusual? Or is this just the trend
of the future? Is this more typical than I think it is?
I think that your department's situation is that of a growing minority of departments. I think that if you have a professional looking Google Site page that is linked to by your department's official website then you'll have nothing to worry about.
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OP may be more ambitious than wanting to “not stand out in a negative manner”. For example, he may wish to stand out in a positive manner, and I’d think that would be extremely difficult to do with a google site. In any case, different people care about different things. Just because some successful mathematicians use a gmail address or have a google site doesn’t mean it‘s unreasonable to not want to follow their example.
– Dan Romik
5 hours ago
1
@DanRomik - My comment about "not stand out in a negative manner" was in merely in response to the OP's worry that having a google site would look unprofessional. Perhaps I could have worded it better, but I honestly believe that there is nothing that one can do website-wise that will make them stand out in a positive manner. It's simply too subjective. For example some people strongly prefer very bare bones, old school html pages (white background, black text, photo at the top, list of classes taught and publications down the page, etc) over more looking modern sites.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
@DanRomik (cont'd) - I don't disagree with you at all about it not being unreasonable to not want to follow the lead of the examples I mentioned. My point was simply that none of this was likely to have a negative impact on the OP's professional appearance.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
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OP may be more ambitious than wanting to “not stand out in a negative manner”. For example, he may wish to stand out in a positive manner, and I’d think that would be extremely difficult to do with a google site. In any case, different people care about different things. Just because some successful mathematicians use a gmail address or have a google site doesn’t mean it‘s unreasonable to not want to follow their example.
– Dan Romik
5 hours ago
1
@DanRomik - My comment about "not stand out in a negative manner" was in merely in response to the OP's worry that having a google site would look unprofessional. Perhaps I could have worded it better, but I honestly believe that there is nothing that one can do website-wise that will make them stand out in a positive manner. It's simply too subjective. For example some people strongly prefer very bare bones, old school html pages (white background, black text, photo at the top, list of classes taught and publications down the page, etc) over more looking modern sites.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
@DanRomik (cont'd) - I don't disagree with you at all about it not being unreasonable to not want to follow the lead of the examples I mentioned. My point was simply that none of this was likely to have a negative impact on the OP's professional appearance.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
1
1
OP may be more ambitious than wanting to “not stand out in a negative manner”. For example, he may wish to stand out in a positive manner, and I’d think that would be extremely difficult to do with a google site. In any case, different people care about different things. Just because some successful mathematicians use a gmail address or have a google site doesn’t mean it‘s unreasonable to not want to follow their example.
– Dan Romik
5 hours ago
OP may be more ambitious than wanting to “not stand out in a negative manner”. For example, he may wish to stand out in a positive manner, and I’d think that would be extremely difficult to do with a google site. In any case, different people care about different things. Just because some successful mathematicians use a gmail address or have a google site doesn’t mean it‘s unreasonable to not want to follow their example.
– Dan Romik
5 hours ago
1
1
@DanRomik - My comment about "not stand out in a negative manner" was in merely in response to the OP's worry that having a google site would look unprofessional. Perhaps I could have worded it better, but I honestly believe that there is nothing that one can do website-wise that will make them stand out in a positive manner. It's simply too subjective. For example some people strongly prefer very bare bones, old school html pages (white background, black text, photo at the top, list of classes taught and publications down the page, etc) over more looking modern sites.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
@DanRomik - My comment about "not stand out in a negative manner" was in merely in response to the OP's worry that having a google site would look unprofessional. Perhaps I could have worded it better, but I honestly believe that there is nothing that one can do website-wise that will make them stand out in a positive manner. It's simply too subjective. For example some people strongly prefer very bare bones, old school html pages (white background, black text, photo at the top, list of classes taught and publications down the page, etc) over more looking modern sites.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
@DanRomik (cont'd) - I don't disagree with you at all about it not being unreasonable to not want to follow the lead of the examples I mentioned. My point was simply that none of this was likely to have a negative impact on the OP's professional appearance.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
@DanRomik (cont'd) - I don't disagree with you at all about it not being unreasonable to not want to follow the lead of the examples I mentioned. My point was simply that none of this was likely to have a negative impact on the OP's professional appearance.
– Ben Linowitz
5 hours ago
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Becoming more common. Be thankful it is GSuite and not MS Exchange.
– Buffy
8 hours ago
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I wouldn't say it's unusual.. to my knowledge at e.g. Warwick in the UK the maths and CS-specific mail and web servers have been replaced for the most part by services operated centrally. It sounds like the replacements you've been told to use are inadequate for their intended purpose, however. Warwick's central CMS supports rendering LaTeX natively or via Mathjax because it's pretty important for mathematics use! You might like to check if your university offers central IT services that could provide you with hosting/a virtual server to use.
– Adam Williams
8 hours ago
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It’s extremely easy to enable MathJax on any website - literally a single line of HTML code that loads a JavaScript library. I’d be amazed if this isn’t possible to do on a Google site. As for “should I be upset”, I think you have several unrelated complaints (central campus email, time to migrate website, non-edu web domain) and only the last one seems a legitimate reason for griping. If your email address was non-edu that would also be a problem, but it sounds like that’s not the case.
– Dan Romik
8 hours ago
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The answers for the two are different, in my experience: Mail server: yes, very common. Web server: a lot less.
– Federico Poloni
7 hours ago
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Your employer is also telling its math department that it can't use MathJobs for hiring, and that applicants and rec letter writers instead have to use a stupid homegrown website.
– academic
4 hours ago