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Which ability applies to cooking meals with cook's utensils?
I've been looking through the PHB Chapter "Using Each Ability", and I checked the section on cook's utensils in Xanathar's Guide to Everything (p. 81), but it doesn't give any hint.
The question came up while the party has been in a small farmhouse with a fireplace. In the wilderness I believe the Survival skill can apply due to being outside and needing the skills to cook with the very basic supplies, but how about in a more urban environment with a proper fireplace or even a oven?
Is there any ability that could/should be applied to cooking a meal, or is it completely up to the DM?
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Which ability applies to cooking meals with cook's utensils?
I've been looking through the PHB Chapter "Using Each Ability", and I checked the section on cook's utensils in Xanathar's Guide to Everything (p. 81), but it doesn't give any hint.
The question came up while the party has been in a small farmhouse with a fireplace. In the wilderness I believe the Survival skill can apply due to being outside and needing the skills to cook with the very basic supplies, but how about in a more urban environment with a proper fireplace or even a oven?
Is there any ability that could/should be applied to cooking a meal, or is it completely up to the DM?
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Which ability applies to cooking meals with cook's utensils?
I've been looking through the PHB Chapter "Using Each Ability", and I checked the section on cook's utensils in Xanathar's Guide to Everything (p. 81), but it doesn't give any hint.
The question came up while the party has been in a small farmhouse with a fireplace. In the wilderness I believe the Survival skill can apply due to being outside and needing the skills to cook with the very basic supplies, but how about in a more urban environment with a proper fireplace or even a oven?
Is there any ability that could/should be applied to cooking a meal, or is it completely up to the DM?
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Which ability applies to cooking meals with cook's utensils?
I've been looking through the PHB Chapter "Using Each Ability", and I checked the section on cook's utensils in Xanathar's Guide to Everything (p. 81), but it doesn't give any hint.
The question came up while the party has been in a small farmhouse with a fireplace. In the wilderness I believe the Survival skill can apply due to being outside and needing the skills to cook with the very basic supplies, but how about in a more urban environment with a proper fireplace or even a oven?
Is there any ability that could/should be applied to cooking a meal, or is it completely up to the DM?
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Your question looks at the D&D 5E ability check system a little bit backwards. The mechanic is in fact called ability checks, not skill checks, and it's intended to be used looking at the ability first, and then figuring out whether proficiency in a skill might apply. From the Ability Checks section of chapter 7 (my emphasis added):
For every ability check, the DM decides which of the six abilities is relevant to the task at hand and the difficulty of the task, represented by a Difficulty Class.
And then later in that chapter, in the Skills section:
Sometimes, the DM might ask for an ability check using a specific skill—for example, “Make a Wisdom (Perception) check.” At other times, a player might ask the DM if proficiency in a particular skill applies to a check. In either case, proficiency in a skill means an individual can add his or her proficiency bonus to ability checks that involve that skill. Without proficiency in the skill, the individual makes a normal ability check.
So rather than looking at it from the perspective of "How do I do a check with cooking utensils?", we need to look at it from the perspective of "Why is the DM calling for an ability check?" There are plenty of things involving cooking utensils that probably wouldn't call for a check at all, since making a normal everyday meal while in a home with all the ingredients handy isn't really something that tends to have much of a chance of failure or much impact of success. But sometimes the character is trying to do something where it makes sense to use a roll to determine if it succeeds, so the DM would call for an ability check. And then if having proficiency with cooking utensils would be helpful to accomplishing the objective, then the proficiency bonus would be added. Here are some ability checks I can imagine calling for where one could reasonably add the proficiency bonus for cooking utensils:
- A Strength check to scrape baked-on food off a pan. (This one's a bit of a stretch, admittedly, but maybe if there was some time pressure to clean something to make a noble happy, or something like that.)
- A Dexterity check to make something with fine detail, like decorating a cake.
- A Constitution check to produce food taking a long time in a hot, muggy, kitchen full of fumes.
- An Intelligence check to remember an old family recipe.
- A Wisdom check to observe how somebody else is making a recipe to be able to copy it, or to decipher what kind of food they might like.
- A Charisma check to make food in an appealing way, or to try to make friends using food.
As you've noticed, other than the general suggestions provided in the "Using Each Ability" section, it's really completely up to the DM when ability checks are called for, and which ability applies to the task that the character is trying to do. Different DMs definitely have different philosophies and approaches to it. And sometimes really more than one skill could reasonably apply. I've certainly (as DM) called for Charisma checks allowing for either their Persuasion or Cooking Utensils proficiency to be applied, whichever they had, since they were trying to make friends using food. But once the DM picks which ability to use for the ability check for whatever it is that the character is trying to do that requires a roll, it's not usually that hard to figure out if proficiency in a tool might apply to the roll.
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The proper mechanic is the proficiency in artisan's tools. Mike Mearls suggested wisdom as the appropriate ability in an unofficial Twitter post on March 7, 2016:
I'd say wisdom - takes insight to balance ingredients, capture flavor.
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Your question looks at the D&D 5E ability check system a little bit backwards. The mechanic is in fact called ability checks, not skill checks, and it's intended to be used looking at the ability first, and then figuring out whether proficiency in a skill might apply. From the Ability Checks section of chapter 7 (my emphasis added):
For every ability check, the DM decides which of the six abilities is relevant to the task at hand and the difficulty of the task, represented by a Difficulty Class.
And then later in that chapter, in the Skills section:
Sometimes, the DM might ask for an ability check using a specific skill—for example, “Make a Wisdom (Perception) check.” At other times, a player might ask the DM if proficiency in a particular skill applies to a check. In either case, proficiency in a skill means an individual can add his or her proficiency bonus to ability checks that involve that skill. Without proficiency in the skill, the individual makes a normal ability check.
So rather than looking at it from the perspective of "How do I do a check with cooking utensils?", we need to look at it from the perspective of "Why is the DM calling for an ability check?" There are plenty of things involving cooking utensils that probably wouldn't call for a check at all, since making a normal everyday meal while in a home with all the ingredients handy isn't really something that tends to have much of a chance of failure or much impact of success. But sometimes the character is trying to do something where it makes sense to use a roll to determine if it succeeds, so the DM would call for an ability check. And then if having proficiency with cooking utensils would be helpful to accomplishing the objective, then the proficiency bonus would be added. Here are some ability checks I can imagine calling for where one could reasonably add the proficiency bonus for cooking utensils:
- A Strength check to scrape baked-on food off a pan. (This one's a bit of a stretch, admittedly, but maybe if there was some time pressure to clean something to make a noble happy, or something like that.)
- A Dexterity check to make something with fine detail, like decorating a cake.
- A Constitution check to produce food taking a long time in a hot, muggy, kitchen full of fumes.
- An Intelligence check to remember an old family recipe.
- A Wisdom check to observe how somebody else is making a recipe to be able to copy it, or to decipher what kind of food they might like.
- A Charisma check to make food in an appealing way, or to try to make friends using food.
As you've noticed, other than the general suggestions provided in the "Using Each Ability" section, it's really completely up to the DM when ability checks are called for, and which ability applies to the task that the character is trying to do. Different DMs definitely have different philosophies and approaches to it. And sometimes really more than one skill could reasonably apply. I've certainly (as DM) called for Charisma checks allowing for either their Persuasion or Cooking Utensils proficiency to be applied, whichever they had, since they were trying to make friends using food. But once the DM picks which ability to use for the ability check for whatever it is that the character is trying to do that requires a roll, it's not usually that hard to figure out if proficiency in a tool might apply to the roll.
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Your question looks at the D&D 5E ability check system a little bit backwards. The mechanic is in fact called ability checks, not skill checks, and it's intended to be used looking at the ability first, and then figuring out whether proficiency in a skill might apply. From the Ability Checks section of chapter 7 (my emphasis added):
For every ability check, the DM decides which of the six abilities is relevant to the task at hand and the difficulty of the task, represented by a Difficulty Class.
And then later in that chapter, in the Skills section:
Sometimes, the DM might ask for an ability check using a specific skill—for example, “Make a Wisdom (Perception) check.” At other times, a player might ask the DM if proficiency in a particular skill applies to a check. In either case, proficiency in a skill means an individual can add his or her proficiency bonus to ability checks that involve that skill. Without proficiency in the skill, the individual makes a normal ability check.
So rather than looking at it from the perspective of "How do I do a check with cooking utensils?", we need to look at it from the perspective of "Why is the DM calling for an ability check?" There are plenty of things involving cooking utensils that probably wouldn't call for a check at all, since making a normal everyday meal while in a home with all the ingredients handy isn't really something that tends to have much of a chance of failure or much impact of success. But sometimes the character is trying to do something where it makes sense to use a roll to determine if it succeeds, so the DM would call for an ability check. And then if having proficiency with cooking utensils would be helpful to accomplishing the objective, then the proficiency bonus would be added. Here are some ability checks I can imagine calling for where one could reasonably add the proficiency bonus for cooking utensils:
- A Strength check to scrape baked-on food off a pan. (This one's a bit of a stretch, admittedly, but maybe if there was some time pressure to clean something to make a noble happy, or something like that.)
- A Dexterity check to make something with fine detail, like decorating a cake.
- A Constitution check to produce food taking a long time in a hot, muggy, kitchen full of fumes.
- An Intelligence check to remember an old family recipe.
- A Wisdom check to observe how somebody else is making a recipe to be able to copy it, or to decipher what kind of food they might like.
- A Charisma check to make food in an appealing way, or to try to make friends using food.
As you've noticed, other than the general suggestions provided in the "Using Each Ability" section, it's really completely up to the DM when ability checks are called for, and which ability applies to the task that the character is trying to do. Different DMs definitely have different philosophies and approaches to it. And sometimes really more than one skill could reasonably apply. I've certainly (as DM) called for Charisma checks allowing for either their Persuasion or Cooking Utensils proficiency to be applied, whichever they had, since they were trying to make friends using food. But once the DM picks which ability to use for the ability check for whatever it is that the character is trying to do that requires a roll, it's not usually that hard to figure out if proficiency in a tool might apply to the roll.
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Your question looks at the D&D 5E ability check system a little bit backwards. The mechanic is in fact called ability checks, not skill checks, and it's intended to be used looking at the ability first, and then figuring out whether proficiency in a skill might apply. From the Ability Checks section of chapter 7 (my emphasis added):
For every ability check, the DM decides which of the six abilities is relevant to the task at hand and the difficulty of the task, represented by a Difficulty Class.
And then later in that chapter, in the Skills section:
Sometimes, the DM might ask for an ability check using a specific skill—for example, “Make a Wisdom (Perception) check.” At other times, a player might ask the DM if proficiency in a particular skill applies to a check. In either case, proficiency in a skill means an individual can add his or her proficiency bonus to ability checks that involve that skill. Without proficiency in the skill, the individual makes a normal ability check.
So rather than looking at it from the perspective of "How do I do a check with cooking utensils?", we need to look at it from the perspective of "Why is the DM calling for an ability check?" There are plenty of things involving cooking utensils that probably wouldn't call for a check at all, since making a normal everyday meal while in a home with all the ingredients handy isn't really something that tends to have much of a chance of failure or much impact of success. But sometimes the character is trying to do something where it makes sense to use a roll to determine if it succeeds, so the DM would call for an ability check. And then if having proficiency with cooking utensils would be helpful to accomplishing the objective, then the proficiency bonus would be added. Here are some ability checks I can imagine calling for where one could reasonably add the proficiency bonus for cooking utensils:
- A Strength check to scrape baked-on food off a pan. (This one's a bit of a stretch, admittedly, but maybe if there was some time pressure to clean something to make a noble happy, or something like that.)
- A Dexterity check to make something with fine detail, like decorating a cake.
- A Constitution check to produce food taking a long time in a hot, muggy, kitchen full of fumes.
- An Intelligence check to remember an old family recipe.
- A Wisdom check to observe how somebody else is making a recipe to be able to copy it, or to decipher what kind of food they might like.
- A Charisma check to make food in an appealing way, or to try to make friends using food.
As you've noticed, other than the general suggestions provided in the "Using Each Ability" section, it's really completely up to the DM when ability checks are called for, and which ability applies to the task that the character is trying to do. Different DMs definitely have different philosophies and approaches to it. And sometimes really more than one skill could reasonably apply. I've certainly (as DM) called for Charisma checks allowing for either their Persuasion or Cooking Utensils proficiency to be applied, whichever they had, since they were trying to make friends using food. But once the DM picks which ability to use for the ability check for whatever it is that the character is trying to do that requires a roll, it's not usually that hard to figure out if proficiency in a tool might apply to the roll.
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Your question looks at the D&D 5E ability check system a little bit backwards. The mechanic is in fact called ability checks, not skill checks, and it's intended to be used looking at the ability first, and then figuring out whether proficiency in a skill might apply. From the Ability Checks section of chapter 7 (my emphasis added):
For every ability check, the DM decides which of the six abilities is relevant to the task at hand and the difficulty of the task, represented by a Difficulty Class.
And then later in that chapter, in the Skills section:
Sometimes, the DM might ask for an ability check using a specific skill—for example, “Make a Wisdom (Perception) check.” At other times, a player might ask the DM if proficiency in a particular skill applies to a check. In either case, proficiency in a skill means an individual can add his or her proficiency bonus to ability checks that involve that skill. Without proficiency in the skill, the individual makes a normal ability check.
So rather than looking at it from the perspective of "How do I do a check with cooking utensils?", we need to look at it from the perspective of "Why is the DM calling for an ability check?" There are plenty of things involving cooking utensils that probably wouldn't call for a check at all, since making a normal everyday meal while in a home with all the ingredients handy isn't really something that tends to have much of a chance of failure or much impact of success. But sometimes the character is trying to do something where it makes sense to use a roll to determine if it succeeds, so the DM would call for an ability check. And then if having proficiency with cooking utensils would be helpful to accomplishing the objective, then the proficiency bonus would be added. Here are some ability checks I can imagine calling for where one could reasonably add the proficiency bonus for cooking utensils:
- A Strength check to scrape baked-on food off a pan. (This one's a bit of a stretch, admittedly, but maybe if there was some time pressure to clean something to make a noble happy, or something like that.)
- A Dexterity check to make something with fine detail, like decorating a cake.
- A Constitution check to produce food taking a long time in a hot, muggy, kitchen full of fumes.
- An Intelligence check to remember an old family recipe.
- A Wisdom check to observe how somebody else is making a recipe to be able to copy it, or to decipher what kind of food they might like.
- A Charisma check to make food in an appealing way, or to try to make friends using food.
As you've noticed, other than the general suggestions provided in the "Using Each Ability" section, it's really completely up to the DM when ability checks are called for, and which ability applies to the task that the character is trying to do. Different DMs definitely have different philosophies and approaches to it. And sometimes really more than one skill could reasonably apply. I've certainly (as DM) called for Charisma checks allowing for either their Persuasion or Cooking Utensils proficiency to be applied, whichever they had, since they were trying to make friends using food. But once the DM picks which ability to use for the ability check for whatever it is that the character is trying to do that requires a roll, it's not usually that hard to figure out if proficiency in a tool might apply to the roll.
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The proper mechanic is the proficiency in artisan's tools. Mike Mearls suggested wisdom as the appropriate ability in an unofficial Twitter post on March 7, 2016:
I'd say wisdom - takes insight to balance ingredients, capture flavor.
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The proper mechanic is the proficiency in artisan's tools. Mike Mearls suggested wisdom as the appropriate ability in an unofficial Twitter post on March 7, 2016:
I'd say wisdom - takes insight to balance ingredients, capture flavor.
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The proper mechanic is the proficiency in artisan's tools. Mike Mearls suggested wisdom as the appropriate ability in an unofficial Twitter post on March 7, 2016:
I'd say wisdom - takes insight to balance ingredients, capture flavor.
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The proper mechanic is the proficiency in artisan's tools. Mike Mearls suggested wisdom as the appropriate ability in an unofficial Twitter post on March 7, 2016:
I'd say wisdom - takes insight to balance ingredients, capture flavor.
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