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Not counting shuttles, transport vessels or bases, Klingon and Romulan ships have a very similar basis in their shapes. They also share the same colors. Is there any canon reason as to why so many Klingon and Romulan war vessels share bird names or similar shapes?
These war vessels all share the name "bird" or are shaped like birds, meaning that they have a bridge (birdhead) at the front and their wings at the back.
Klingon Bird-of-Prey, from the ENT series
Klingon K'T'Inga-Class, from the TOS series
Klingon Bird-of-Prey,
Klingon IKS Negh'Var,
Klingon Vor'Cha, all from the TNG, DS9 series.
Romulan Bird-of-Prey, from the TOS series
Romulan warbird valdore, TNG movie era
Romulan Warbird, TNG series.
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Not counting shuttles, transport vessels or bases, Klingon and Romulan ships have a very similar basis in their shapes. They also share the same colors. Is there any canon reason as to why so many Klingon and Romulan war vessels share bird names or similar shapes?
These war vessels all share the name "bird" or are shaped like birds, meaning that they have a bridge (birdhead) at the front and their wings at the back.
Klingon Bird-of-Prey, from the ENT series
Klingon K'T'Inga-Class, from the TOS series
Klingon Bird-of-Prey,
Klingon IKS Negh'Var,
Klingon Vor'Cha, all from the TNG, DS9 series.
Romulan Bird-of-Prey, from the TOS series
Romulan warbird valdore, TNG movie era
Romulan Warbird, TNG series.
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Not counting shuttles, transport vessels or bases, Klingon and Romulan ships have a very similar basis in their shapes. They also share the same colors. Is there any canon reason as to why so many Klingon and Romulan war vessels share bird names or similar shapes?
These war vessels all share the name "bird" or are shaped like birds, meaning that they have a bridge (birdhead) at the front and their wings at the back.
Klingon Bird-of-Prey, from the ENT series
Klingon K'T'Inga-Class, from the TOS series
Klingon Bird-of-Prey,
Klingon IKS Negh'Var,
Klingon Vor'Cha, all from the TNG, DS9 series.
Romulan Bird-of-Prey, from the TOS series
Romulan warbird valdore, TNG movie era
Romulan Warbird, TNG series.
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Not counting shuttles, transport vessels or bases, Klingon and Romulan ships have a very similar basis in their shapes. They also share the same colors. Is there any canon reason as to why so many Klingon and Romulan war vessels share bird names or similar shapes?
These war vessels all share the name "bird" or are shaped like birds, meaning that they have a bridge (birdhead) at the front and their wings at the back.
Klingon Bird-of-Prey, from the ENT series
Klingon K'T'Inga-Class, from the TOS series
Klingon Bird-of-Prey,
Klingon IKS Negh'Var,
Klingon Vor'Cha, all from the TNG, DS9 series.
Romulan Bird-of-Prey, from the TOS series
Romulan warbird valdore, TNG movie era
Romulan Warbird, TNG series.
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For the record, a canon is a body of works by a single author or artist. A cannon is a big metal thing that goes kaboom! and kills people.
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@Valorum Canon kills (fictional) people all the time and sometimes goes "kaboom!" when the writers decide to do a continuity reset.
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For the record, a canon is a body of works by a single author or artist. A cannon is a big metal thing that goes kaboom! and kills people.
– Valorum
8 hours ago
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@Valorum Canon kills (fictional) people all the time and sometimes goes "kaboom!" when the writers decide to do a continuity reset.
– Thunderforge
8 hours ago
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For the record, a canon is a body of works by a single author or artist. A cannon is a big metal thing that goes kaboom! and kills people.
– Valorum
8 hours ago
For the record, a canon is a body of works by a single author or artist. A cannon is a big metal thing that goes kaboom! and kills people.
– Valorum
8 hours ago
1
1
@Valorum Canon kills (fictional) people all the time and sometimes goes "kaboom!" when the writers decide to do a continuity reset.
– Thunderforge
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@Valorum Canon kills (fictional) people all the time and sometimes goes "kaboom!" when the writers decide to do a continuity reset.
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Because they traded technology
From the Memory-Alpha write-up for TOS: The Enterprise Incident
Kirk then inexplicably orders helmsman Sulu to take the Enterprise
across the Romulan Neutral Zone and into Romulan space, where it is
quickly surrounded by the Romulans – who are now using Klingon-style
vessels.
An effective cloaking device, meanwhile, was passed from the Romulans to the Klingons at about the same time. The last mentioned episode took place in 2268, while a working Klingon cloaking device was present in the episode TAS:The Time Trap (that is the animated series), which took place in 2269.
A writer for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock explicitly stated that he used the previously Romulan Bird-of-Prey designation for the a Klingon ship on purpose. According to writer Harve Bennett:
"I didn't change their ship, because I remembered a piece of trivia
that stated there was a mutual assistance military pact between the
Klingons and the Romulans for an exchange of a military equipment."
(Starlog #103, February 1986, p. 17)
This short-lived Romulan-Klingon alliance was never explicitly stated in the original series, but was evidently supposed to feature more prominently in the never-made Season 4; this is where the writers picked up the ideas that eventually lead to Klingon cloaking devices in the animated series and the movies.
In any case, the swapping of ship designs and cloaking technology lead to some convergence in ship design, particularly around the bird motif.
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@drewbenn Indeed, perhaps 'twould have been better had Season 3 never been made at all. But alas, this was a typo, thanks.
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Because they traded technology
From the Memory-Alpha write-up for TOS: The Enterprise Incident
Kirk then inexplicably orders helmsman Sulu to take the Enterprise
across the Romulan Neutral Zone and into Romulan space, where it is
quickly surrounded by the Romulans – who are now using Klingon-style
vessels.
An effective cloaking device, meanwhile, was passed from the Romulans to the Klingons at about the same time. The last mentioned episode took place in 2268, while a working Klingon cloaking device was present in the episode TAS:The Time Trap (that is the animated series), which took place in 2269.
A writer for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock explicitly stated that he used the previously Romulan Bird-of-Prey designation for the a Klingon ship on purpose. According to writer Harve Bennett:
"I didn't change their ship, because I remembered a piece of trivia
that stated there was a mutual assistance military pact between the
Klingons and the Romulans for an exchange of a military equipment."
(Starlog #103, February 1986, p. 17)
This short-lived Romulan-Klingon alliance was never explicitly stated in the original series, but was evidently supposed to feature more prominently in the never-made Season 4; this is where the writers picked up the ideas that eventually lead to Klingon cloaking devices in the animated series and the movies.
In any case, the swapping of ship designs and cloaking technology lead to some convergence in ship design, particularly around the bird motif.
answered 8 hours ago
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@drewbenn Indeed, perhaps 'twould have been better had Season 3 never been made at all. But alas, this was a typo, thanks.
– kingledion
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Because they traded technology
From the Memory-Alpha write-up for TOS: The Enterprise Incident
Kirk then inexplicably orders helmsman Sulu to take the Enterprise
across the Romulan Neutral Zone and into Romulan space, where it is
quickly surrounded by the Romulans – who are now using Klingon-style
vessels.
An effective cloaking device, meanwhile, was passed from the Romulans to the Klingons at about the same time. The last mentioned episode took place in 2268, while a working Klingon cloaking device was present in the episode TAS:The Time Trap (that is the animated series), which took place in 2269.
A writer for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock explicitly stated that he used the previously Romulan Bird-of-Prey designation for the a Klingon ship on purpose. According to writer Harve Bennett:
"I didn't change their ship, because I remembered a piece of trivia
that stated there was a mutual assistance military pact between the
Klingons and the Romulans for an exchange of a military equipment."
(Starlog #103, February 1986, p. 17)
This short-lived Romulan-Klingon alliance was never explicitly stated in the original series, but was evidently supposed to feature more prominently in the never-made Season 4; this is where the writers picked up the ideas that eventually lead to Klingon cloaking devices in the animated series and the movies.
In any case, the swapping of ship designs and cloaking technology lead to some convergence in ship design, particularly around the bird motif.
answered 8 hours ago
kingledionkingledion
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@drewbenn Indeed, perhaps 'twould have been better had Season 3 never been made at all. But alas, this was a typo, thanks.
– kingledion
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Because they traded technology
From the Memory-Alpha write-up for TOS: The Enterprise Incident
Kirk then inexplicably orders helmsman Sulu to take the Enterprise
across the Romulan Neutral Zone and into Romulan space, where it is
quickly surrounded by the Romulans – who are now using Klingon-style
vessels.
An effective cloaking device, meanwhile, was passed from the Romulans to the Klingons at about the same time. The last mentioned episode took place in 2268, while a working Klingon cloaking device was present in the episode TAS:The Time Trap (that is the animated series), which took place in 2269.
A writer for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock explicitly stated that he used the previously Romulan Bird-of-Prey designation for the a Klingon ship on purpose. According to writer Harve Bennett:
"I didn't change their ship, because I remembered a piece of trivia
that stated there was a mutual assistance military pact between the
Klingons and the Romulans for an exchange of a military equipment."
(Starlog #103, February 1986, p. 17)
This short-lived Romulan-Klingon alliance was never explicitly stated in the original series, but was evidently supposed to feature more prominently in the never-made Season 4; this is where the writers picked up the ideas that eventually lead to Klingon cloaking devices in the animated series and the movies.
In any case, the swapping of ship designs and cloaking technology lead to some convergence in ship design, particularly around the bird motif.
answered 8 hours ago
kingledionkingledion
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Because they traded technology
From the Memory-Alpha write-up for TOS: The Enterprise Incident
Kirk then inexplicably orders helmsman Sulu to take the Enterprise
across the Romulan Neutral Zone and into Romulan space, where it is
quickly surrounded by the Romulans – who are now using Klingon-style
vessels.
An effective cloaking device, meanwhile, was passed from the Romulans to the Klingons at about the same time. The last mentioned episode took place in 2268, while a working Klingon cloaking device was present in the episode TAS:The Time Trap (that is the animated series), which took place in 2269.
A writer for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock explicitly stated that he used the previously Romulan Bird-of-Prey designation for the a Klingon ship on purpose. According to writer Harve Bennett:
"I didn't change their ship, because I remembered a piece of trivia
that stated there was a mutual assistance military pact between the
Klingons and the Romulans for an exchange of a military equipment."
(Starlog #103, February 1986, p. 17)
This short-lived Romulan-Klingon alliance was never explicitly stated in the original series, but was evidently supposed to feature more prominently in the never-made Season 4; this is where the writers picked up the ideas that eventually lead to Klingon cloaking devices in the animated series and the movies.
In any case, the swapping of ship designs and cloaking technology lead to some convergence in ship design, particularly around the bird motif.
answered 8 hours ago
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@drewbenn Indeed, perhaps 'twould have been better had Season 3 never been made at all. But alas, this was a typo, thanks.
– kingledion
7 hours ago
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@drewbenn Indeed, perhaps 'twould have been better had Season 3 never been made at all. But alas, this was a typo, thanks.
– kingledion
7 hours ago
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@drewbenn Indeed, perhaps 'twould have been better had Season 3 never been made at all. But alas, this was a typo, thanks.
– kingledion
7 hours ago
@drewbenn Indeed, perhaps 'twould have been better had Season 3 never been made at all. But alas, this was a typo, thanks.
– kingledion
7 hours ago
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– Thunderforge
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