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Why is Nibbana referred to as “The destination and the path leading to the destination”?


Does “which is void of formations (conditioned phenomena) since it is the cessation of them” refer to nibbana or the knowledge that abides in nibbana?Where is Nibbana/Nirvana being Unconditioned stated in the Canon?Has a teacher referred to sleep as a form of 'lazy nirvana'?Is nibbana the only next world in reality?Does Nibbana mean not self?Awakened Great Zen Master Seung Sahn - is it possible he lost the state of Nibbana?Does Nibbana lie within The All or not?Is nibbana eternal?The World and Five Aggregates of Clingingis dependent origination akaliko and Nibbana






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Why is Nibbana referred to as "The destination and the path leading to the destination" ?



What does this mean?



Is it referring to the cessation of defilements?
Is it referring to anything other than the cessation of defilements?



In what way is Nibbana "...the path leading to the destination" ?



reference: https://dhammawiki.com/index.php/Nibbana#33_synonyms_for_Nibbana










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  • Cessation of defilements is one attribute of Nibbana, but certainly is not everything that Nibbana is all about. Otherwise the Buddha wouldn't have to waste an entire Samyutta talking about it (ref: suttacentral.net/sn43 )

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Why is Nibbana referred to as "The destination and the path leading to the destination" ?



What does this mean?



Is it referring to the cessation of defilements?
Is it referring to anything other than the cessation of defilements?



In what way is Nibbana "...the path leading to the destination" ?



reference: https://dhammawiki.com/index.php/Nibbana#33_synonyms_for_Nibbana










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  • Cessation of defilements is one attribute of Nibbana, but certainly is not everything that Nibbana is all about. Otherwise the Buddha wouldn't have to waste an entire Samyutta talking about it (ref: suttacentral.net/sn43 )

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Why is Nibbana referred to as "The destination and the path leading to the destination" ?



What does this mean?



Is it referring to the cessation of defilements?
Is it referring to anything other than the cessation of defilements?



In what way is Nibbana "...the path leading to the destination" ?



reference: https://dhammawiki.com/index.php/Nibbana#33_synonyms_for_Nibbana










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Why is Nibbana referred to as "The destination and the path leading to the destination" ?



What does this mean?



Is it referring to the cessation of defilements?
Is it referring to anything other than the cessation of defilements?



In what way is Nibbana "...the path leading to the destination" ?



reference: https://dhammawiki.com/index.php/Nibbana#33_synonyms_for_Nibbana







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  • Cessation of defilements is one attribute of Nibbana, but certainly is not everything that Nibbana is all about. Otherwise the Buddha wouldn't have to waste an entire Samyutta talking about it (ref: suttacentral.net/sn43 )

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  • Cessation of defilements is one attribute of Nibbana, but certainly is not everything that Nibbana is all about. Otherwise the Buddha wouldn't have to waste an entire Samyutta talking about it (ref: suttacentral.net/sn43 )

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Cessation of defilements is one attribute of Nibbana, but certainly is not everything that Nibbana is all about. Otherwise the Buddha wouldn't have to waste an entire Samyutta talking about it (ref: suttacentral.net/sn43 )

– santa100
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Cessation of defilements is one attribute of Nibbana, but certainly is not everything that Nibbana is all about. Otherwise the Buddha wouldn't have to waste an entire Samyutta talking about it (ref: suttacentral.net/sn43 )

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The Nibbana page at dhammawiki.com states:




33 synonyms for Nibbana:



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  1. The destination and the path leading to the destination

(from Samyutta Nikaya 43)




I found the original quote in SN 43.44 and it actually says:




“Bhikkhus, I will teach you the destination and the path leading to
the destination. Listen to that….
“Parāyanañca vo, bhikkhave, desessāmi parāyanagāmiñca maggaṃ. Taṃ suṇātha…



“And what, bhikkhus, is the destination? The destruction of lust, the
destruction of hatred, the destruction of delusion: this is called the
destination.



“And what, bhikkhus, is the path leading to the destination?
Mindfulness directed to the body: this is called the path leading to
the destination.



“Thus, bhikkhus, I have taught you the destination and the path
leading to the destination. Whatever should be done, bhikkhus, by a
compassionate teacher out of compassion for his disciples, desiring
their welfare, that I have done for you. These are the feet of trees,
bhikkhus, these are empty huts. Meditate, bhikkhus, do not be
negligent, lest you regret it later. This is our instruction to you.”



Each to be elaborated in full as in §§1–12.




So, the dhammawiki page appears to be incorrect.






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    The dhammawiki page is correct follow to Pāli's structure.



    Parāyanañca = Para (next) + Āyana (tourist destination; going).



    The path leading to the destination = Magga.



    Magga is leading to Nirodha (DukkhaNirodhaGāminiPaṭipadā).



    So, Nibbana (Nirodha) is "The destination or object" of the path (Magga).






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      The talk The Essence of the Dhamma exlains good why the path is also regarded as "essence", leading to "essence". For only one derived at Nibbana, path can be abound to hold on, grasp, has become "his own".






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        The Nibbana page at dhammawiki.com states:




        33 synonyms for Nibbana:



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        1. The destination and the path leading to the destination

        (from Samyutta Nikaya 43)




        I found the original quote in SN 43.44 and it actually says:




        “Bhikkhus, I will teach you the destination and the path leading to
        the destination. Listen to that….
        “Parāyanañca vo, bhikkhave, desessāmi parāyanagāmiñca maggaṃ. Taṃ suṇātha…



        “And what, bhikkhus, is the destination? The destruction of lust, the
        destruction of hatred, the destruction of delusion: this is called the
        destination.



        “And what, bhikkhus, is the path leading to the destination?
        Mindfulness directed to the body: this is called the path leading to
        the destination.



        “Thus, bhikkhus, I have taught you the destination and the path
        leading to the destination. Whatever should be done, bhikkhus, by a
        compassionate teacher out of compassion for his disciples, desiring
        their welfare, that I have done for you. These are the feet of trees,
        bhikkhus, these are empty huts. Meditate, bhikkhus, do not be
        negligent, lest you regret it later. This is our instruction to you.”



        Each to be elaborated in full as in §§1–12.




        So, the dhammawiki page appears to be incorrect.






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          The Nibbana page at dhammawiki.com states:




          33 synonyms for Nibbana:



          .....



          1. The destination and the path leading to the destination

          (from Samyutta Nikaya 43)




          I found the original quote in SN 43.44 and it actually says:




          “Bhikkhus, I will teach you the destination and the path leading to
          the destination. Listen to that….
          “Parāyanañca vo, bhikkhave, desessāmi parāyanagāmiñca maggaṃ. Taṃ suṇātha…



          “And what, bhikkhus, is the destination? The destruction of lust, the
          destruction of hatred, the destruction of delusion: this is called the
          destination.



          “And what, bhikkhus, is the path leading to the destination?
          Mindfulness directed to the body: this is called the path leading to
          the destination.



          “Thus, bhikkhus, I have taught you the destination and the path
          leading to the destination. Whatever should be done, bhikkhus, by a
          compassionate teacher out of compassion for his disciples, desiring
          their welfare, that I have done for you. These are the feet of trees,
          bhikkhus, these are empty huts. Meditate, bhikkhus, do not be
          negligent, lest you regret it later. This is our instruction to you.”



          Each to be elaborated in full as in §§1–12.




          So, the dhammawiki page appears to be incorrect.






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            The Nibbana page at dhammawiki.com states:




            33 synonyms for Nibbana:



            .....



            1. The destination and the path leading to the destination

            (from Samyutta Nikaya 43)




            I found the original quote in SN 43.44 and it actually says:




            “Bhikkhus, I will teach you the destination and the path leading to
            the destination. Listen to that….
            “Parāyanañca vo, bhikkhave, desessāmi parāyanagāmiñca maggaṃ. Taṃ suṇātha…



            “And what, bhikkhus, is the destination? The destruction of lust, the
            destruction of hatred, the destruction of delusion: this is called the
            destination.



            “And what, bhikkhus, is the path leading to the destination?
            Mindfulness directed to the body: this is called the path leading to
            the destination.



            “Thus, bhikkhus, I have taught you the destination and the path
            leading to the destination. Whatever should be done, bhikkhus, by a
            compassionate teacher out of compassion for his disciples, desiring
            their welfare, that I have done for you. These are the feet of trees,
            bhikkhus, these are empty huts. Meditate, bhikkhus, do not be
            negligent, lest you regret it later. This is our instruction to you.”



            Each to be elaborated in full as in §§1–12.




            So, the dhammawiki page appears to be incorrect.






            share|improve this answer















            The Nibbana page at dhammawiki.com states:




            33 synonyms for Nibbana:



            .....



            1. The destination and the path leading to the destination

            (from Samyutta Nikaya 43)




            I found the original quote in SN 43.44 and it actually says:




            “Bhikkhus, I will teach you the destination and the path leading to
            the destination. Listen to that….
            “Parāyanañca vo, bhikkhave, desessāmi parāyanagāmiñca maggaṃ. Taṃ suṇātha…



            “And what, bhikkhus, is the destination? The destruction of lust, the
            destruction of hatred, the destruction of delusion: this is called the
            destination.



            “And what, bhikkhus, is the path leading to the destination?
            Mindfulness directed to the body: this is called the path leading to
            the destination.



            “Thus, bhikkhus, I have taught you the destination and the path
            leading to the destination. Whatever should be done, bhikkhus, by a
            compassionate teacher out of compassion for his disciples, desiring
            their welfare, that I have done for you. These are the feet of trees,
            bhikkhus, these are empty huts. Meditate, bhikkhus, do not be
            negligent, lest you regret it later. This is our instruction to you.”



            Each to be elaborated in full as in §§1–12.




            So, the dhammawiki page appears to be incorrect.







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                The dhammawiki page is correct follow to Pāli's structure.



                Parāyanañca = Para (next) + Āyana (tourist destination; going).



                The path leading to the destination = Magga.



                Magga is leading to Nirodha (DukkhaNirodhaGāminiPaṭipadā).



                So, Nibbana (Nirodha) is "The destination or object" of the path (Magga).






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                  The dhammawiki page is correct follow to Pāli's structure.



                  Parāyanañca = Para (next) + Āyana (tourist destination; going).



                  The path leading to the destination = Magga.



                  Magga is leading to Nirodha (DukkhaNirodhaGāminiPaṭipadā).



                  So, Nibbana (Nirodha) is "The destination or object" of the path (Magga).






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                    The dhammawiki page is correct follow to Pāli's structure.



                    Parāyanañca = Para (next) + Āyana (tourist destination; going).



                    The path leading to the destination = Magga.



                    Magga is leading to Nirodha (DukkhaNirodhaGāminiPaṭipadā).



                    So, Nibbana (Nirodha) is "The destination or object" of the path (Magga).






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                    The dhammawiki page is correct follow to Pāli's structure.



                    Parāyanañca = Para (next) + Āyana (tourist destination; going).



                    The path leading to the destination = Magga.



                    Magga is leading to Nirodha (DukkhaNirodhaGāminiPaṭipadā).



                    So, Nibbana (Nirodha) is "The destination or object" of the path (Magga).







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                        The talk The Essence of the Dhamma exlains good why the path is also regarded as "essence", leading to "essence". For only one derived at Nibbana, path can be abound to hold on, grasp, has become "his own".






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